***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

I had to install the new nvidia drivers 358.50 otherwise I couldnt open Battlefront. The bad effect of them is now my 21x9 monitor looks horrible, something is up. I installed the old drivers and it fixed the monitor quality so there is a driver issue that seems to affect monitor calibration and the visual text quality.

Anyone else experienced this?

EDIT found it my monitor calibration profile was remove so be aware as I had to grab a backup of my ICC Profile.

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Does the GT80 come with a pre-calibrated screen or did you calibrate it yourself? Is the difference between un-calibrated and calibrated that noticeable?

 

I did not calibrate the GT80 screen, in all honesty the stock panel seems to be pretty accurate compared to other gaming laptops in my opinion if it needs any adjustment at all it won't be much to get the most out of its capabilities.

The external monitor that I use most of time when playing games is a curved 21x9 UHD which comes with its own calibration file, it was looking so bad after the new Nvidia driver update I honestly thought something was wrong with my cable. Never noticed Nvidia doing this before so something must have went sideways somewhere causing it to reset and loosing the file all together.

 

Lol

 

But overall you are stable on the new driver, right?

 

I haven't had a single freeze with 353.62 on Win10 and all other drivers utilities up to date. I'm only going on about a day with this configuration, so I don't want to jinx it, but so far so good.

 

358.50 seems to have good stability unlike the ones before for me.

 

On 353.62, minimizing any of the wargaming games causes instant bluescreens I believe same with other new drivers. Except the new battlefront one. Performance in World of Warships is definitely 7-8 fps lower so instead of 30 fps I get 20.

 

Review with benchmarks of 1/2 of a GT80 Skylake 980 SLI

MSI GT72 Dragon 29th Anniversary GTX980 Overclocked


This single 980 GT72S comes with a 230w power supply.

There is a warning showing in the MSI GT72s BIOS that OC above 37x may be unstable - see 4:04 and 11:42 points in video.

37x is really low, and might be due to the combination 980 + 6820HK vying for power limited by that 230w power supply.

Still watching for a GT80 Skylake review...

Update: GenTechPC uploaded the disassembly video

 

Yay we're half way there!

 

More specifically, a 980 sli Titan review

 

Any word whether there will be another CPU upgrade before the end of this year? If not, would the 009 model be a good deal at 2.8k in new condition?

 

MSI GT80S (Skylake) prices are really bad in Canada. No way in hell it's worth that much. Price hike with spec reduction.

http://search.ncix.com/search/?qcatid=0&q=gt80s

 

Current 6820HK is expected to be here for a looong while. 009 for 2.8K seems alright.

 

Didn't know there was a new one already. MSI's site is still showing the 5950HQ as the highest end.

 

I think it is not officially out yet, only in pre order. To be honest any version of the titan is awesome performance wise

The advantage of 6820HK is that it can be overclocked, as well as the extras with skylake such as PCIe SSDs.

 

Zero989, you are seeing the higher cost of the M.2 PCIe SSD's and DDR4 passed on to the user. You are getting the same capacity for more $.

In the US the 980m SLI is actually a few hundred less than I paid for the SLI-263 @ $3699, but that is because the Skylake CPU's are lower range models that cost $300 less than the 4980HQ and 5950HQ, per ark.intel.com.

That's why I was saying over the last couple of months that waiting for the Skylake wasn't needed, buy the GT80 models available now and enjoy them, as the CPU performance difference in games is going to be minor.

Only new GPU tech matters for most game performance. But, that SLI 980 GT80 will cost $$$.

 

$800 difference lol.

 

CAD vs USD.

 

Zero989, $3399 USD ($4400.86 CAD) for the Skylake 980m SLI here.

I have only seen 1 US model GT80 SLI 980m listed (posted here earlier by someone).

NCIX shows 2 GT80 980m SLI models $500 apart. The cheaper one is the $4400.86 CAD US configuration so about the same price.

You can add in storage later when the new NVMe M.2's and faster DDR4 ships for reasonable prices.

 

Only 30 fps in world of warships?

 

I finally got mine!!! A GT80 Titan-263 SLI. I ran a few benchmarks, maybe some of you can tell me if these scores are in line with what you'd expect. All the benchmarks were run with their default settings.

A couple of weird things with the benchmark programs:
1) Fire Strike identifies my CPU as an Intel Core i7-5700HQ (I have the 5950HQ) and the results page gives me the message "Graphics driver is not approved."

2) The Unigine benchmarks both identify my Nvidia cards as having 4GB each, instead of 8GB.

The Nvidia driver is version 347.77.

Oh, one other thing. My GT80 is the stock SLI-263 with one exception: I had the RAID 0 disabled. I don't know if that would make a difference in the benchmark scores, but I figured I should mention it.

Anyway, the benchmark results:

Fire Strike Test Version 1.1; SystemInfo Version 4.40; UI Version 1.5.915 64

3DMark Score......12906
Graphics Score....18488
Physics Score........9815
Combined Score....4623

Graphics Test 1.....86.94 fps
Graphics Test 2.....74.75 fps
Physics Test..........31.16 fps
Combined Test.......21.5 fps

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Unigine Heaven Benchmark 4.0

FPS:.............164.1
Score:........4134
Min FPS:..........9.5
Max FPS:......293.8

System

Platform:.......Windows NT 6.2 (build 9200) 64bit
CPU model:..Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5950HQ CPU @ 2.90GHz (2893MHz) x4
GPU model:..NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M 9.18.13.4777 (4095MB) x2

Settings

Render:...........Direct3D11
Mode:..............1920x1080 fullscreen
Preset.............Custom
Quality.............High
Tessellation:....Disabled

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Unigine Valley Benchmark 1.0

FPS:.............118.4
Score:........4955
Min FPS:........30.5
Max FPS:.....183.5

System

Platform:.......Windows 8 (build 9200) 64bit
CPU model:..Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5950HQ CPU @ 2.90GHz (2893MHz) x4
GPU model:..NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M 9.18.13.4777 (4095MB) x2

Settings

Render:...........Direct3D11
Mode:..............1920x1080 fullscreen
Preset.............Custom
Quality.............High


So....how does it look--good, bad, average? Let me know.

Thanks.

 

Congrats Ben!!

Yes, you haven't OC'd so all the numbers look good, but low

Futuremark just recently messed up the index that identifies CPU's, and my 5950HQ used to be listed correctly - but "not recognized", but last time I ran a test it also saw my 5950HQ as a 5700HQ - I filed a bug report with Futuremark a few days ago, no response yet.

Here is my first Futuremark 3dmark Fire Strike run at stock speeds - from the RAID0, but after doing all the Windows 8.1 updates, driver updates, and newest Nvidia driver available at the time it was run back in mid-August:
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5697742

Here is my best OC, just XTU and MSI Afterburner, still running stock BIOS/vbios:
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5708173

Various games/programs will only report 4GB of VRAM, not a problem we can fix, both 980m's have 8GB

What games have you loaded?

 

what should i buy msi gt80 with i7 5950hq or i7 6820hk....?
i think is i7 5950hq is better than i7 6820hk

 

Ansem, it's way to early to tell, the GT80 with 6820HK isn't even released yet

The other laptops with the 6820HK are just coming out now, and only a few people have posted benchmarks, so the CPU needs to be put into the hands of the hardcore benchmark guys first before we give up on it.

The gaming performance will be about the same even if the 6820HK is a little slower/faster at some things. Due to the cooling / power limitations differing for each laptop, the 6820HK performance/headroom for OC'ing will vary by make/model, at least a little.

The new tech like M.2 PCIe x4 NVMe, DDR4, Skylake, USB 3.1 / TB3 are all fun new things to play with. If you think you will benefit by having them then get them. These things don't really affect gaming performance, maybe faster IO for loading in game - but the existing 2x-4x RAID0 is plenty fast for that.

It's up to you to decide, do you want hardware built with Windows 8.1 native or hardware best run with Windows 10?

I am sure both models will run fine with Windows 7/8/10, mostly.

 

And GTX 980 sli

 

mason2smart, well we're kinda screwed with the 980 SLI, from several directions.

First, it's gonna be really expensive. Second, it's gonna come with Windows 10. Third, it might not be upgradeable with future GPU's. Fourth, to really benefit fully from the OC'able parts, it's gonna need 1 or 2 big power adapters.

And, lastly, it's not available, even for pre-order, so you might have to wait for the 980 SLI even longer than the SLI 980m

No matter what, the 980m SLI is gonna be cheaper, and all 3 generations of the GT80 980m SLI will all perform about the same.

If you need the 980 SLI, there is no choice except to wait, and set aside about $5000 US including tax (my guess)

 

The interface for all the 980 cards is MXM, you can get the standard form factor heatsinks from the current models, so long term so long term you still have options.

 

Meaker, my only concern is the sizing of the oversized MXM board might be required for the 980 SLI GT80, and other upgrades to allow increased power, it might make them a variant over the other GT80's. I hope MSI brings them forward, I am tempted

I wonder if the 980 MXM cards will be offered as an upgrade for all GT80's? It isn't really a "generation upgrade", we get 2 of those, but it is a big enough improvement at 30% to consider the upgrade - if we get to keep our 980m's for resale to offset the upgrade cost.

 

Does anybody else get random crashes every few hours with the new nvidia drivers? It will happen at random intervals and is really weird. It used to happen on older drivers too but not nearly as often. Anybody able to help or has the same issue as me?

 

I have usually at crash as soon i start it up.... Then after reboot (he does alone) always works stable....ideas?

 

I had the exact same issue. I downgraded my NVIDIA drivers to 353.62 and haven't had a single random freeze in 2 days now. That's with multiple sleeps and multiple games.



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Sitting happily on 353.62 for more than a month now with no crashes. More recent drivers were hell for me. Today I downloaded the Battlefront beta, - which refuses to run unless I update my drivers. FU Battlefront. Guess I'm not playing you now then.

 

Nobody like me?

 

Mine never crashes at startup. It was never that predictable.

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Does anyone know if the backlighting for the keyboard is all on one circuit? I was looking to write a program to customize the backlighting on a key-by-key basis but idk if that's possible on a hardware level.

 

@hmscott that video of 37x is hilarious thats just like a regular turbo frequency LOL. paying for overclocking but only getting regular turbo. PSU problem + GTX980 will doom MSI of it's high end laptop lineup.

as for upgrade future MXM, @Meaker is correct, assuming GT80 chassis won't change, then they'll just change the motherboard design to make it fit. imho currently theres plenty of space in GT80 even with existing components. im just thinking its not worth going for GTX980 when pascal is gonna be out in about half a year or a bit more.. feels like nvidia is dumping remaining GM204 and GM200 chip because they have too much, while charging us premium.

 

the pascal 1080m will be more expensive than the 980m prices always go up. Basically we are getting the 1080m early b/c they will be grossly equivalent 30% increase in performance over 980m...

 

did they ever add the haptics motor back in? if they haven't is it worth adding one (having a re-seller put it in) when I buy it?

 

The 5700HQ, at $3699 CDN (GTX 980m SLI) is the best value and can still be bought.

 

Lol I NEED to upgrade soon, Hope msi releases the the new 980 titan, the screws are falling out of my razer blade pro (again) so I am forced to break the seals to screw them back in...pretty crappy for a$3k laptop

 

mason2smart, it's important to remember to physically let go of your Razer when you start vibrating with excitement over anticipation for your MSI GT80 Skylake 980 SLI - or you are going to shake the Blade to pieces

 

? Pls elaborate

 

mason2smart, use your imagination

 

LOL

@mason2smart GT80 would destroy razor in almost everything especially with latest skylake and H170 chipset. i'd love to jump on those pcie ssds in raid 0 as soon as i know PSU issue + TDP restriction on 6820HK are resolved.

 

I need some help from the experts on here. I have the 4720hq processor. I want to have it at 3.6 ghz when I game. (or all the time). Ive disabled speedstep in thre bios and i've enable all the cores to always be active. I ALWAYS have the fan button pressed when gaming. My temps are under 60 for every game sitiuation.

My question is is there a program or a way to overclock I to the turbo speed?
If I do, will the power supply fail?

The processor is a bottleneck in some games : Arma 3, Crysis, etc.

Thank you for any opinions form you guys who are master overclockers.

 

As a new GT80 Titan SLI-263 owner running Windows 10 with the latest drivers for everything, I have a general question:

What are you guys seeing as your boot time in Task Manager on the Startup tab? I'm at 4.0 seconds with the only thing in startup listed as the Realtek HD Audio Manager, but my older Toshiba Satellite with Windows 10 on an SSD with the same startup items shows 2.3 seconds... I figured with a RAID 0 configuration and m.2 drives my boot times would be faster than that! Obviously Crystal Disk Mark shows double the performance of the SSD is my Toshiba laptop, but I dunno, I just thought the boot time would be about the same unless there are more drivers to load and what not....

Do you think this may be an issue or maybe I'm just being paranoid?

 

Anolin, you are miss applying the number in Task Manager, it's not Boot time, it's "Last BIOS time", from the last boot how much time was spent posting - time spent in BIOS enabling/starting devices - like disks, SSD's, RAID, CD/DVD, USB, memory, etc.

When I checked mine, I had crashed last due to testing - BIOS time is longer, and it was listed as 12+ seconds. I did a regular reboot, and it was 6.7 seconds. Then I removed the DVD from the tray and disconnected USB devices, and it is now 3.9 seconds.



It's normal.

The actual Startup CPU column is disabled by default in Startup portion of Task Manager. You can enable that column, and see the CPU used at Startup by each app.



I mostly disable Startup items just so I don't see them in the systray as I don't need them there. It doesn't noticeably reduce the actual time to desktop from power on.

 

knibbler, the Turbo time past TDP is limited, and can't be changed. If you are using more than the 47w TDP, the Turbo will drop after that timeout, usually 8 seconds on the 47XX CPU's.

If you disable Speedstep in the BIOS, you have disabled all CPU Turbo, and will run at the fixed Base clock speed of the 4720HQ which is 2.6ghz, listed here on ark.intel.com:

http://ark.intel.com/products/78934/Intel-Core-i7-4720HQ-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz

The 47w TDP processors seem to like 35x as the max Turbo for sustained performance.

I can lock my 5950HQ at max 35x Core ratio for all 4 cores with Intel XTU, and long running CPU jobs stay at 35x - but you have to keep it running cool so turn on the 100% fan button if it won't stay running at 35x. You may need to pick a lower max multiplier than 35x, experiment.

Use the High Performance Power plan to keep the CPU at 35x (or what you locked it in at with XTU), or if you don't want the 100% fan on, and the CPU load varies, you can use the Balanced Power plan to allow the CPU to downclock and cool down between load peaks.

Have fun

 

peoples gotta know though, two SSDs in raid 0 is about sequential performance, not so much in random performance especially random read, where OS boot up are mostly random read and lower the latency which raid0 doesn't boost up much with either. with toshiba you likely have fast boot on and MSI machine prob had some settings thats different from your toshiba laptop.

theres a fast boot guide at tweaktown.com you can read it up to see how to get max performance. do note though when you play games and video encoding, your raid 0 ssd would destroy toshiba in anything it does.

now it'll be a different story if you have ramdisk at startup, with raid 0 ssd it'll make the most difference.