***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

specs to crave for:
- 6820HK at minimum 4.4GHz 24/7
- GTX 980 or 980M SLI either one is fine
- NVME PCIE SSDs in raid 0 3600 MB/s read and 3000 MB/s write
- remaining SATA port up to 8 TB of SSD storage
- Apacer NOX 64 GB DDR4 SODIMM ram at 3000MHz

 

Gotcha - makes sense, and mine is usually 3.9 or 4.0 so it seems normal then. Thanks!

 

I do know that fast boot is enabled in the BIOS of the Toshiba laptop, and it's also enabled in the BIOS on my Titan so I just found it funny that there was a difference. But yes, it absolutely destroys my Toshiba when it comes to anything else. Just thought it was weird my older laptop seems to boot into Windows just ever so slightly faster than my Titan.

I'll check out the fast boot guide at tweaktown and see if anything applies to Windows 10.

Thanks!

 

Anolin, as a heads up, the advantages of Fast Startup (windows side) are minimal with an SSD / SSD RAID, and should be disabled.

Even worse, when you are first configuring your laptop, you are constantly installing / uninstalling stuff, and the Fast Startup has to spend time re-organizing stuff for "Fast Startup", which takes more time than just booting without it

Also, there are problems with any new OS upgrade + drivers, so Sleep / Hibernation will be unstable for a while, perhaps a long while, so I learned to live without either. It reduces the headaches of dealing with a new OS/drivers - learn to Triage the issues you can out of your face and you will be a lot happier.

You can disable all that stuff, Fast Startup, Hibernation, Sleep, by turning off Hibernation from a CMD window started as Administrator:

powercfg /h off

or, if you get an error, use this instead:

powershell -Command "Start-Process 'powercfg.exe' -Verb runAs -ArgumentList '/h off'"

This also removes the hiberfil.sys hidden file from your C:\, saving SSD space - mine was 32GB. You can also save space by disabling pagefile, set it to No Pagefile, reboot, and the pagefile space is saved from your C:\ SSD.

Then you can disable Sleep as an option in Start to avoid accidentally entering it, and also change the default button actions, removing Sleep/Shutdown.



I just close the lid and move to another spot, and open it up and I am still running - works for my usage. Otherwise I shutdown. Running VM's for work, so you can stop them and start them at any time helps too.

Any time you can defeat the problem and live with out it, rather than wasting time beating your head against it to fix it - when it can't be fixed, helps reduce the frustration of dealing with an unstable new OS/drivers.

 

lol the icons on the left are weird

Is there an issue with sleep other than VM's?
Sleep is so you don't lose your work when you take it from place to place

 

mason2smart, the only issue with sleep I heard is with Windows 10, for all hardware.

When I mentioned VM's, it was in the context of doing work through them, so you can shutdown the VM in a Saved State, so when you shutdown your laptop their state is saved. It has nothing to do with VM's under Windows Sleep mode.

Windows 10 has lots of problems, sleep being one of them I have seen reported, so I am making suggestions to help alleviate some of the problems from the list of common issues when a new Windows release is made and it and drivers are unstable.

 

Yeah, one of the first things I did was disable Hibernation and all that crap on my Titan as I seriously didn't buy it for the battery life lol, nor do I care to have a large hiberfil.sys eating up storage for no reason.

Thanks to everyone who replied, it seems that things are normal so my mind is at ease.

 

new bios update available

 

Ok I couldn't find the link to the aftermarket haptic a motor... Does anyone know where I can find one so I can put it in the laptop when I get i

 

mason2smart, there's a thread with that info, resurrect it!!

MSI GT80 Titan MODs
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gt80-titan-mods.770137/

 

Yea but the links on that post correspond to pages that have nothing on then concerning haptics. I cannot find the post...

 

mason2smart, that's why I suggested resurrecting the thread, maybe reply to some of the posts related to haptic motor and see if they found a solution, and/or a PM. They might have updated links to share too

 

For those who prefer SB Cinema 2 on win 10.
http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/utility.aspx?cg=5
In my opinion it is far more better than nahimic. Nahimic in some games plays quietly vs sb cinema 2.

 

The haptic motors aren't hard to come by as they are the same use in cell phones its the connector that's a pain. Since its not an off the shelf part I don't think any vendor would be willing to do this unless they had a specific test and sourced the exact parts.

 

I haven't loaded any games, I'm not really a gamer. Besides, I'm having a hell of a time just navigating Windows 8. I'm upgrading from a machine with XP (running the classic theme) and I've used Win7 some at work, but Win8...what a PITA.

I did run Furmark in the Preset 1080 (FHD) mode. Got a score of 4244, max temp of 75C. One thing I'm noticing is the two GPUs are running anywhere from 5 to 11 degrees apart. Even at low usage or idle, the temperatures are usually 6 to 7 degrees apart. In fact, as I'm writing this the temps are 47 and 37 (I'm writing this on another computer, the GT80 is just sitting there running HWinfo). Is that normal?

 

Ben, you can install ClassicShell to restore the Start Menu, in XP/Win7/Custom views, and boot right into the desktop, avoiding the Metro Tiles. That's how I run Windows 8.1.

The GPU's do read about 10c apart at times, sometimes much closer, it depends on the app. Everyone reports this. It is Normal

 

Anyone else have the problem that very occasionally (as in 1 out of every 20-30 startups) all the keyboard lights etc come on, but it does not boot to the MSI logo. Long press on power to turn it off then turning it on again fixes it. Anything I should be worried about? Apart from this its been rock solid in the 2 months I've had it.

 

Yes, we discussed this a while back, but all drivers from 355.60 and onwards have had issues with several titan and other models/manufacturer's laptops. In particular, we experience those hiccups that end up in hard crashes. 353.62 is the last known full stable driver, as well as MSI's latest drivers.

Yeah, same with me. If I hard crash, when I reboot, it works well. I might try booting, then restarting immediately and see if it's stable. This could be a small workaround until nvidia releases a stable driver. 353.62 is the last known full stable driver.

Your power supply will only fail after heavy overclocking of the GPUs, which end up consuming a lot of power. 4720HQ is limited to up to 58w TDP even if you don't undervolt. Don't disable turbo from bios, fire up intel XTU, set all your multipliers to 36x, undervolt to -50mv at least on dynamic voltage, reduce your processor cache ratio from 36x to 30x and you should have a max TDP of around 54w or so when hard pushing your system.

Best you can do is get 3.4 to 3.5ghz constant speed, but 3.6ghz always gets slightly above 47wTDP. 3.5 is still very powerful enough for games and a massive improvement over stock 2.6ghz.

Watch out for your temps, since 2.6ghz is very light on your system, you will easily reach 80s with 3.4ghz

I don't have that issue. When I overclock my GPUs, I sometimes had that issue you describe but AFTER the MSI logo POST. It was usually freezing with black screen right before windows logo. Only happens when I overclock the GPUs, so far.

 

Majster, were you ever able to find a compatible haptics motor?

 

Hello all,

I have had my GT80 for a while. I have been reading the forum since I got my laptop back in July. I have a most vexing and annoying problem with my audio and was wondering if anyone else has the same experience. When I am playing music, regardless of source, I get a crackling sound coming from my speakers. I noticed that if I exit the RealTek HD Audio manager, it less noticeable. I downloaded and installed the latest drivers and Nahimic... that did not help. So I uninstalled the RealTek HD Audio drivers and there was some minor improvement. However, I am at the end of my rope.

I enabled the guest account and noticed that the sound is free of any crackling. So I have to believe it is some kind of software/driver glitch issue.
I have had my laptop "repaired" by MSI.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

 

You should mess with the audio settings in your RealTek drivers then, something there is causing the auto to boost to the point it is crackling. Sounds definitely like a software enhancement glitch.

 

That was my initial thought, however, it is not like a continuous crackling sound but more of an intermittent crackle/pop... almost like playing a worn vinyl using a worn stylus The weirdest part is that it happens no matter what the volume is set at. I have adjusted the but sampling frequency and bits, figured maybe the settings were too aggressive. No effect.

The guest account however is using the windows drivers and plays without issues.

My last resort would be to reinstall from scratch but I really would rather not.

 

probably because PSU doesnt give enough power LOL

 

Nah because it happens even with very very mild OC. The PSU can give well over 330W if needed too.

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Lol I had a hard time finding this post... Majster, do you know where I would be able to find a haptics device for the GT80, I want to put one in when I buy it.

Thanks,
Mason

 

i know LOl was joking

but heres something about the GPUs though

200W 980 = 8 power phases / no SLI / P870DM
180W 980 = 7 power phases / no SLI / P775DM
150W 980 = 6 power phases / SLI? / MSI GT72S
120W 980 = 5 power phases / SLI capable / MSI GT80

in comparison to that:

100W 980M = 3+1 power phases / SLI capable / various machines

quoted from techinferno, doesn't look like there will be 980 SLI in GT80, if they do give SLI at 150W then the GPUS will be power restricted prob via vbios and sbios.

 

yes but its in the picture saying it will have sli

 

if thats the case, then those cards will be power restricted just like HQ CPUs lol. so that MSI will use only 1 PSU hence we paying premium hardware but only use a fraction of it's performance, say 75% for example =/

 

Are you sure about that?

 

It's pretty comical listening to some of these members stir a pot without even knowing what's in it.

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me too, its pretty fun when you mentioned some stuff and i loved reading em, thats why im still here

not sure, but an approximation. card originally was for 150-165w on initial leak, for 5GHz memory frequency, how far off the real value im not sure but that 5GHz is now 7GHz so with same maxwell chip compared to desktop 980, i'd say it'll be closer to 170-180w thats where desktop 980 sits. now getting a 980 is great, but if you can't overclock then its meaningless where as may as well get 980m SLI and overclock to get much better performance than a single 980.

 

Until you run into a game that does not like SLI, or you are sensitive to the micro stutter two cards generates, remember that SLI must have a significant advantage over a single card to give a smoother experience.

 

dat too, exactly, im just hoping my prediction aren't that far off as i really dont have anything to go by except for desktop parts. imho i'd trust u, mr.fox and john's advice more simply more experienced, and unclewebb.

 

I think there will be two variables.

How is it set up at stock? What options are available tweaking wise.

Then more importantly for tweakers:

How does it react to custom firmware and mods?

 

So it looks like 2x980 is already in MSI website: http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GT80S-6QF-Titan-SLI-29th-Anniversary-Edition.html#hero-specification
It says 330w power supply but will it be 2x for 660w or not?

 

Lumlx, nice find, +rep

It doesn't say anything about 330w x 2 support anywhere I can see.

Google can't find any hits for it, no price found:
https://www.google.com/search?q=GT80S+6QF+Titan+SLI+29th+Anniversary+Edition&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

 

Please explain.....I have been factual and informative in all of my posts.

 

Great find! And some said that it wouldn't be created lol.

Here is a great quote from that add " For optional models of GT series, will have special version of Core i7 6820HK with overclock capability from 3.7GHz to over 4GHz" . Key word being OVER.

The next thing I notice from the pictures is that the CPU has 3 heat pipes on the mount instead of 2 so this might indication a change of the heatsink.
http://1drv.ms/1NBqNxv

 

Seems as though they will offer both four and 8gb variants

• Graphics
  GeForce GTX 980 SLI
• Graphics VRAM
  8 / 4GB GDDR5

 

Will it have a new keyboard with silver lining and multicolor?

 

mason2smart, from the Specifications listing:

"Keyboard
Single color backlighting (red) SteelSeries keyboard
Mechanical Keybaord with Switch by Cherry MX"

 

It's farther down the page

 

Also before since the model i have in my signature (haswell)

 

So in other words it will most likely throttle due to power limitations

 

i do not understend the point. Please try to run the Furmark burnin test ....If I run with my version also throttle.... maybe you can also try on your machine (be carefull...it heat- up a lot).

 

i asked around including powernotebook and xoticpc and it doesnt come with dual psu, now because they are telling me with two 980m with skylake CPU it doesnt require more than 330w which I would think otherwise when all 3 are overclocked.

with two 980 though, hands down going to use more than 330w unless machine is going to be crippled.

anothier thing is, due to some of these new laptop that it'll use power from PSU + battery lol so donno how long that'll help last when overclocked. assuming nvidia and intel doesnt restrict and put throttling in their new chips, which i highly doubt it..

 

Maybe they will run 330 watts stock which is still much more poerful than 980m. If you look online, the Titan is most often compared to single 980 desktops. This will put it on the level of 980ti desktops. Also it will allow easier gpu upgrades - they redesigned their mxm ports for the new gpu's allowing higher bandwidth as well... And I believe this version will have the usb type c while the others may not. Hopefully it allows bridging of power adapters or has a battery upgrade if it needs battery plus psu.

 

Another link that showed up on the MSI gaming GT80S website is usually browse.
http://gaming.msi.com/products/notebook/gt-series?id=3617

 

There's that 3.7ghz OC number again...

"Easy Overclocking with MSI SHIFT Technology

Overclocks CPU core clock up to 30% (from 2.7GHz to 3.7GHz) to push the system to extreme.

*This function can only be activated by models with Intel Core i7 K processors."

Maybe they did figure out how to get full performance from 330w?

"Maximizes power consumption of both CPU and GPU to leverage full performance of both while maintaining system temperature.

Modifies power consumption of both CPU and GPU to the lowest while maintaining coolest constant system temperature for both"

 

Hey, does anybody else's Titan shut down when they close the lid? I close the lid fine, but when I reopen it, the keyboard flashes a few times and my computer restarts. I am using 353.62 drivers by the way.