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Hey guys, im curious if one of yall could help me out here. So i just picked up the gt80 titan and here are my specs:
MSI GT Series GT80 Titan SLI-094 Gaming Laptop 4th Generation Intel Core i7 4720HQ (2.60GHz) 16GB Memory 1TB HDD 256GB SSD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 965M SLI 8 GB GDDR5 (4GB x 2) 18.4" Windows 8.1

A huge reason for this buy was the fact of its upgradablilty. I am currently playing fallout 4 however it kinda sucks ass, this titan cant seem to handle it and it runs super choppy. i think its due to the weak cpu i opted for. Is the upgradeabilty only for the graphics cards, or can i upgrade the cpu as well? Im looking through msi's website for the the indivudal parts to upgrade into however i dont really know where to start, could one of u experts give me ur advice to this? i just wna play some fallout yo and i dont mind to drop some $$.

Thanks a ton!

 

FO4 is new, with performance issues being reported, one of which is that it doesn't have an SLI profile yet (only running on 1 GPU).

Suspiciously / Ominously, Nvidia pulled the FO4 Performance Tuning Guide:

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/fallout-4-graphics-performance-and-tweaking-guide

...which was pretty extensive, just after FO4 release, and hasn't put it back up, so they are likely figuring out what to do about the shipping versions performance issues.

Here is the Google cached version:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...nd-tweaking-guide#fallout-4-graphics-settings

That doc has coverage of the tuning options, you should be able to improve things a bit by tuning down some options.

Here at NBR:

Fallout 4 System Requirements/Recommendation
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/fallout-4-system-requirements-recommendation.782496/

So, it's not your GT80, it's the game - not unusual these days with new AAA releases.

 

Phase 0

 

How bad can it be?
I'm running it "playable", although lowest settings (except a few) @ 1080p, on my Alienware14 - i7 4720HQ & a single GTX 765M

So right now, if I were to upgrade to the GT80S-SLI002 (dual 980m's) in order to enjoy fallout maxed out, would I be disapointed?

 

You will get better answers moving to an on topic thread like the one here at NBR or at the FO4 support site. Let's keep this thread on topic, the GT80 isn't unique in issues with F04 performance, it's the game.

Fallout 4 System Requirements/Recommendation
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/fallout-4-system-requirements-recommendation.782496/

Bethesda Fallout Support - Top Level
http://forums.bethsoft.com/forum/40-fallout/

Fallout 4 PC Forum
http://forums.bethsoft.com/forum/322-pc/

Steam Guide - Unlock Frame Rate, Change FOV, Skip Intro Video, Unlock Console, 21:9 Support and Remove Mouse Acceleration + Other Fixes
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=551069501&tscn=1447077828

Comments for that Steam Guide detailed list of fixes that is constantly being tweaked/updated - go to page 1 for most recent comments, currently 58 pages total:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=551069501&tscn=1447077828

Steam Forum for FO4
http://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/

FO4 + SC2 SLI Profiles (OT in an unrelated thread...fixed)
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...levo-lcd-panels.779449/page-280#post-10133378

New Nvidia driver for FO4 + releases - 358.91
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/94208/

 

I believe SLI is not supported so a single 980 in the gt72 would technically give the best performance in that game.

 

Ugh I'm in phase 1 and supposedly they don't even have the units yet

 

How are you paying? Check or bank wire?

I don't need mine until thanksgiving break... And it will take a while for them to get the haptics

 

Then how did they sell out of msi promo headsets?

 

Paid by credit card...what hap tics are you referring too?

 

Look in the mods section of the forum

 

So u didn't get 3% off?

 

My Custom Mods to My Order:

I have made the following change(s) to your order:
Price Match:
- 2.5 Bay 1: 250GB Samsung 850 Evo SSD (Read 540MB/s - Write 520MB/s (SSD2 - SATA III)) (SKU – SSD016) (+$79)
- M.2 PCIe / NVMe SSD Drive Slot 2: 512GB Samsung 950 Pro NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4 Solid State Drive [M.2] (Read 2500MB/s - Write 1500MB/s 110K IOPS) (+$289)
- M.2 PCIe / NVMe SSD Drive Slot 1: 512GB Samsung 950 Pro NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4 Solid State Drive [M.2] (Read 2500MB/s - Write 1500MB/s 110K IOPS) (+$289)

Add:
Haptic Motor (+$50)
CLU Thermal Paste (+$50)

 

Where can't find it

 

Def not adding a haptics motor...I need my laptop now lol ....can't wait a day more then I must

 

Pro-Star posted a quick vid of the GT80s-002

 

no with laptop even desktop, mobo default state is always with cstate ON to save power, as most of the time computer is idle no point having cstate OFF. I only turn it back on when I leave for work to lower temperature and save power thats about it.

power difference, never bothered to test but let say a computer battery can last 2hrs on wifi or watch movie, at the same clock with cstate turned off it'll last maybe 30 mins or less? lol.

performance increase isn't all that great, about 5% which is still decent.

sata port for msi gt 80s could be sata 1.5Gbps so your ssd is limited to that speed, unless they changed it from previous gen.

 

That's the reason for Intel Speed Shift technology, allowing you to always leave the Balanced Performance power profile enabled - the switching is now so fast - 1ms vs 30ms - that even with it on - frequency changes are fast enough that performance is like it is off.

Leave SpeedStep/Speed Shift on and reduce temps, power consumption, by running on Balanced mode as well. You don't need to have 100%/100% CPU High Performance set as your power plan.

This could boost scores for highest OC where you might thermal throttle at 100% CPU all the time under High Performance, you could run on Balanced Performance and get an even higher score - cooling in between load peaks lets you eliminate heat build up and not thermal throttle.

 

5% for overall performance doesn't equate to real life experience though but in terms of storage SSDs/USB, its more like 10%, which speedshift might not do the trick.

anyone has a gt80s in their hands yet? care to test how high multipler of CPU can go to and voltage/temperature it carry with 44+ multiplier? also test to see if ODD sata port can provide 6Gbps isntead of 1.5Gbps..

 

still thinking choosing between GT80s or clevo's 870. 17inch/18inch, one which can be delided and go for a cherry chip, both support dual psu, one might be able to hold 1 more 2.5" SSD which is a plus.

 

unityole, if it all works as advertised, the Intel Speed Shift + Speed Step has a chance of improving processes that use hi levels of CPU that can benefit from quick response to clock changes.

CrystalDiskMark and other apps that are performance sensitive to using High Performance vs Balanced Performance power plans should benefit.

You should be able to stay on Balanced Performance power plan instead of switching to the High Performance power plan to get the best throughput numbers, there may still be a difference, but it will be smaller than without Speed Step.

We've seen Intel briefly get the 6820HK to 4.2ghz -until it thermally throttled seconds later and they stopped the XTU benchmark test.

So far we have only seen the 6820HK run stably for gaming / apps at 4.0ghz.

I am not holding out much hope for 4.4ghz

The 6920HQ might run better, I would like to see if XTU will allow multiplier changes, like try 41x, then 42x - either might need positive voltage offset for the CPU / cache.

My GT80 SLI-263 with 5950HQ is stable with -15mv @ 40x, +60mv @ 41x, +115mV @ 42x, all cores. @ 36x cache multiplier needs no cache voltage offset change, but if I go to 37x cache it needs positive cache voltage offset of +0.9 to 40x, then +1.9 for 41x/42x.

The 6700HQ with XTU won't allow multiplier changes... updates of XTU could fix this...and the 6920HQ if it doesn't work out of the gate with the current XTU version.

 

Your CPU is not weak at all, and there is little performance to be gained in most games, by higher end CPUs. Only very specific mobiles CPU have higher performance, but this does not mean you can't play at over 100fps.

Your problem is the weak GPUs with fallout 4 being a terrible coded game, that does not support SLI. Once SLI is properly implemented, you should have enough performance.

By the way, mobile CPUs are no longer upgradeable because intel now only ships soldered CPUs to mobiles. It sucks but at least 4720hq is pretty powerful.

Fallout is a terrible excuse of an optimized game, and does not support SLI. A single 980m can still play on high to max settings at 1080 resolution at good framerate. nVidia recommends a GTX970 desktop GPU for 1080 resolution in fallout, and 980m is close to that. Performance will only get better with future patches.

I am 100% certain you can get very high multipliers with 6820hk, I wouldn't sweat it. I don't think 6920hq is a good alternative because it will be TDP locked for sure. It might sport a better IGPU than 6820hk, but other than that, 6820hk will undoubtedly achieve higher performance.

Obviously, this is only for those with a heart for tweaking others will get zero benefit from it hahaha

 

Damn. I really wanted a new laptop for gaming in general but mainly for the best fallout 4 experience..
I really doubt SLI wont be supported at all by bethesda

EDIT: found this

can anyone confirm that SLI does work and maybe how it runs/framerates @ ULTRA 1080p please?

 

ryzeki, for the most part, that's all I have been seeing, people posting stock results.

I am waiting for them to wake up and start OC'ing

 

Found this post, single 980m FO4 results:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...7-owners-lounge.753213/page-266#post-10133148

Fixed the SLI profile downloads from my earlier post, here it is again:

FO4 + SC2 SLI Profiles (OT in an unrelated thread...fixed)
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...levo-lcd-panels.779449/page-280#post-10133378

And, there is a new Nvidia driver for FO4 + recent releases - 358.91
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/94208/

The method in that video is the roll your own method by building on previous profiles - fortunately FO series has a running set of samples.

If you strike up a convo with @ImmortanJoe and get him to test SLI, please post back here to share

 

Update on the new GT80S Skylake:

There are only 2 PCIe SSD + 1 M.2 SSD slots, MSI remove one of the M.2 SSD slot from the MB.

 

GenTechPC, does that mean that they moved that M.2 SATA III interface to the 2.5" bay? That would be awesome if the 2.5" bay upgraded from SATA II to SATA III

 

obsolete is the righ word

 

GT80S 6QF (TITAN SLI) 075UK

- Display: 18.4" 1920 * 1080 FHD, Anti Glare, Wide Viewing Angle
- Colour: Black
- Processor Type: Intel Core i7 6920HQ
- Processor Cores: 4 (8 Threads)
- Processor Clock Speed: 2.9GHz (3.80GHz Turbo Mode)
- Hard Drive Supplied: 1 x 1000GB
- Hard Drive Size: 1000GB
- Hard Drive Speed: 7200RPM
- Solid State Drive: 4x 256Gb PCI-e NVMe SSD in RAID 0 (1024GB Super Raid 4)
- Memory Supplied: 32GB
- Memory Size: 4 x 8GB
- Memory Type: DDR4
- Memory Speed: 2133
- Memory Socket: 4 x SO-DIMM
- Max. Memory Support: 64GB
- Operating System: Windows 10
- Graphics Chipset: 2x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Desktop Edition (in SLI) (2048 Shaders, 1068MHz Core, 7000MHz Memory)
- Graphics Memory: 8GB GDDR5
- Chipset: Intel CM236
- Optical Drive: N/A
- Microphone: Built-in
- Keyboard: Full Colour Backlight Mechanical SteelSeries Keyboard
- LAN: 10/100/1000Mbps Killer Double Shot Pro GB LAN
- Wireless: 802.11 b/g/n/ac Killer Double Shot Pro AC
- Bluetooth: v4.1
- USB 3.0 Port(s): 5
- USB 2.0 Port(s): 0
- Mini Display Port(s): 2x
- Microphone Jack(s): 1
- Headphone Jack(s): 1
- LAN Port(s): 1
- Web Camera: HD type
- Dimension: 456*330*4.9
- Battery: 8 Cell Lithium Ion
- Product Weight (g): ~4.5KG (With Battery)
- Warranty: 2 Years Collect and Return

For a touch under £4k.

 

Nice one

 

Well thats a true disappointment but thanks for the heads up, the 2.5 must be sata 6 and I bet the BD Bay is prob sata 3 now if I had to guess. That messes with the entire plan.

 

I can confirm it runs on ultra without sli on 1x980m I haven't played but 10 min but didn't seem to have any issues on a single card. I will get a bit farther today and report if something goes through the roof once I am out and about the land.

 

What is cherry chip?

 

Cherry-picked chip - slang for picking the best chip out of a selection of available chips
http://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/cherry-pick

The concept of "binning" vs "cherry picking" GPU chips...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1032362/the-concept-of-binning-vs-cherry-picking-gpu-chips

Silicon Lottery
http://siliconlottery.com/

6700K @ 4.8GHz Processor Only
http://siliconlottery.com/products/6700k48g

 

How's

how much is that in $$$

 

6,000 dollars, it's not to say I don't appreciate it I love the idea, but I would probably rather buy a car lol

 

A $6k car won't run Fallout 4

 

Thank you for that, it is good to know and will influence my choice some.

 

I find its graphics ugly to ask for such power machine, no deference between falllout 3 and 4 lol, same gameplay, in my opinion only the storyline is a plus.

 

I was really hoping MSI would keep this round $4500 or under. They really seem to be charging a huge premium the extra hype; but who knows, I have seen some crazy prices on electronics overseas that are a lot cheaper here in the States, so there is still hope for some of us. Not to talk down on anyone who plays consoles and haven't joined the master race yet, but they are still selling for upwards of $600 in some areas.

 

Which does msi do?

Do they bin or cherry-pick CPU's and GPU's for the GT80s?

 

The GTX 980 GPUs for notebooks would have to be binned since heat is a factor and overclocking is an advertised feature. The 980M cards are not binned and aren't ideally engineered either.

 

I was able to enable SLI and finally get the game compatible with my 21x9 monitor and after the tweeks it runs pretty well and locked at 60fps with gpus at 60-75% usage. On a single 980m @ 1920x1080 with all settings maxed it runs between 50-60fps just so everyone knows so knock down a few settings and it should lock at 60fps 99% of the time.

 

Cool man!
Could you explain how you did it so I could do it aswell when I get my GT80S?

 

Ahhhh xotic pc got in my GT80S going into production today may have by next Friday if I'm lucky!!! So excited!!!

 

Take deep breaths so that you can patiently wait!

 

How can u be sure? Many cars now run on tegra processors...

 

By next friday, I am assuming it has a long ways to travel otherwise whats the hold up?

 

Meditate and eat York Mints while waiting....

21x 9 ????

 

mine's gonna take 3 weeks to assemble