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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. Shekelstein

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    I see, high performance on battery shouldn't affect in any way the frames.

    Check if by mistake you installed beta Nvidia drivers. Otherwise, if you hadn't, I really don't know what to say.
     
  2. hmscott

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    That's interesting, because so far the GT80S listings on MSI USA site say they are included, along with the Backpack, palm rest, mousepad, and keycaps...

    The current listing for the US version of the GTS80 Specifications (including the misspelling), say:
    • Accessories Metal Key cap, palm rest, mopusepad, BackPack included
    http://us.msi.com/product/notebook/GT80S-TITAN-SLI-6th-Gen-GTX-970M-SLI.html#hero-specification

    http://us.msi.com/product/notebook/GT80S-TITAN-SLI-6th-Gen-GTX-980M-SLI.html#hero-specification
     
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    im having driver 354.37 , i wanna ask you , is this the latest driver for 980m , because if you checked on nividia site you will see higher versions
     
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    Nope, 354.37 is not the latest driver. There are several more drivers although most of them have been game ready small drivers and a few hot fixes.

    Try the latest one to see if it helps. Also, you are not playing on battery right?

    I advise you to download and use HWmonitor, Intel XTU and MSI afteburner, to monitor temps usage and clockspeeds for both GPU and CPU, to find out what is happening when you feel the hiccup freeze.
     
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    You are running an older driver, try the latest for Windows 10, 358.91:

    http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/94216
     
  6. hmscott

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    358.91 is the newest, and so far works fine on Windows 8.1, others have reported it working for Windows 10.

    If you have modified Nvidia 3d settings beware that it might lock GPU clocks high after load use. My idle temps went up 5c-10c.

    Other than that games, flash, video's work without issues.
     
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  7. SOLEIMAN

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    this is what im getting
    http://imgur.com/QbsZO90
    dont know why im getting this
    i have 980m sli with windows 10 64bit installed
     
  8. hmscott

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    Usually that is due to the GPU id not making it in to the nvidia.inf file yet. But, the 980m SLI GT80 has been out a while. I wonder if MSI changed the ID for the GT80S...

    My GT80 SLI-263 980m GPU's are both Device ID: 10DE-13D7

    You can use GPU-Z to find out what your Device ID's (check both GPU's) are:
    http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2571/techpowerup-gpu-z-v0-8-6/

    GT80 SLI-263 980m GPU device ID.JPG
     
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  9. SOLEIMAN

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    here is mine , can you please tell me how to fix it?

    http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/15/11/18/9bq.png
     
  10. hmscott

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    You did use the drop down menu at the bottom of the GPU-Z dialog, and check both GPU's?

    If so the Device ID is ok, so lets look at the rest of the Hardware id string through Device Manager:

    GT80 SLI-263 980m gpu ids via device manager.JPG

    What do your GPU's show? Where are the numbers/name different?
     
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  12. hmscott

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    That's actually not the right one for him, if he has the new GT80S.

    He wants this download area:
    http://www.msi.com/product/notebook/support/GT80S-6QE-Titan-SLI.html#down-firmware

    That version is 84.04.48.00.51, but he already has that version, since it is the shipping version - it's likely too soon to have an update. Look at his GPU-Z value for vbios.

    Downgrading to the old 84.04.48.00.29 vbios from the GT80 could brick his GPU's...

    It's always good to triple check flashing BIO's.

    As a follow up, IDK if the new GT80S vbios, which has a newer version number, is compatible with out GT80's... we probably should stick with 84.04.48.00.29 until we confirm the GT80S 980m vbios is compatible with the GT80 980m :)
     
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  13. SOLEIMAN

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    they are the same as you

    PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13D7&SUBSYS_11711462&REV_A1
    PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13D7&SUBSYS_11711462
    PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13D7&CC_030200
    PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13D7&CC_0302
     
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    Gentechpc also told me that MSI don't ship with metal keykaps anymore for the GT80s. What a shame..
     
  16. hmscott

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    Why are you posting your info? Do you have a problem installing 358.91?

    What version GT80(S) do you have?

    Your vbios version 84.04.35.00.17 is older than the one listed for the original GT80... you could upgrade to 84.04.48.00.29 :)
     
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  18. hmscott

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    Is your Windows 10 x64? Did you download the correct driver version, x64? It usually has a different error... but that's all I can think of right now.

    Contact MSI, and let them know.

    Other than that, go back to Nvidia and try newer drivers than the one that came with your laptop but older than 358.91, and see if any of the newer drivers work.
     
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  19. MartinDdrummer2

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    @MSIGeno thinks no, but MSI USA product listing entry says yes, so it looks like it could go either way :)

    If you don't get it, then you can contact your seller to contact MSI to ask for them to be sent to you.

    You could follow that link to MSIGeno's comment, and reply via PM => Conversation, or just reply in the thread.
     
  21. MartinDdrummer2

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    Thanks hmscott :) I already replied on the thread you posted. Can't wait to be a part of this elite club lol!
     
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  22. Parc Elohssa

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    I just got my GT80s about a week ago.

    No, mine did not come with keys. None of the GT80s came with keys.

    To get the metal keys, you need to contact MSI (or where you purchased your computer), and they will mail the keys to you.

    The keys are NOT in the box.
     
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    Do I have to pay shipping?
     
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    Is it 100% confirmed that the 6820hk can OC without being limited by power consumption?
     
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    Like with other mobile K processors, you can change clock speeds from Afterburner or BIOS, but you cannot change voltages.
     
  26. Parc Elohssa

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    Nope. Just contact who you purchased the computer from, tell them the keys were missing, and they should contact MSI for you.

    Hope this helps! Contact me for more questions!
     
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    where did you buy your GT80s? I am contacting gentechpc right now.
     
  28. ryzeki

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    Reference them to Genos here in the forum if needed :)
     
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    Other mobile k? This is the first. I assume you mean XTU.

    I'm asking if the 6820hk is limited to 47w after turbo time limit is exceeded. This is easily tested with throttle stop 1024mb test.
     
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    I haven't seen anything confirmed yet that the actual TDP value can or can't be changed and the applied change works. I would think someone would have a GT80-002 by now and would be ready to test but I haven't seen anything. All initial testing can be done via XTU then under graphics benchmarks with XTU monitoring CPU values. If someone has a GT80s-002 post a screen shot of XTU Core menu and lets start testing.
     
  31. Midou

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    CONTEXT: My laptop has been freezing. So I roll backed to the previous nvidia driver. Before rollback, I remember that the release date of the driver is 10/2/15. After rollback, I now have driver version 353.30, release date 6/22/15.

    UPDATE: Since rollback, I have not had any freezes - up until today morning (4-5 days after rollback). It froze this morning. I experienced same symptoms as before - i.e. laptop not responding to mouse and keyboard inputs.

    Luckily the laptop recovered from the freeze when I was about to press the power button to restart. I found a message popup that said something like "nvidia driver failed ... successfully recovered."

    I have more of a feeling now that the previous freezes may have had to do with the nvidia driver. May be I should try updating the driver to the very latest version.

    Has anyone else seen such an error? The popup disappeared when I clicked on it - and thus I couldn't copy the error message.. Any inputs would be much appreciated.

    Thank you! :)
     
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    According to Patrick,

     
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    Might be a hardware issue or software incompatibility throwing the drivers. Are you using the gpu when it crashes? There is an option to see what programs are using the gpu in nvidia control panel

    Also look for errors in event viewer
     
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    Yes - the errors shows up only when I am using the GPU.
     
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    Which driver are you currently using friend? You might want to reinstall using DDU to completely remove any trace of it, and fully reinstall the working driver. I would recommend up to 353.62 but MSI's latest on their website should work as well.
     
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    This thread is so large it needs to be split with support for GT80/GT80 reviews/user impressions

    I like that the benchmark thread was also created.
     
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    I agree

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
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    How are the 359.00 drivers with the GT80? Still causing drivers restarts like previous driver sets, or OK? Currently I'm still on the 353.62's as they are the last ones that were stable for me so far, but these drivers are preventing me from playing battlefront, and are also not ideal for recent games like Assassin's Creed Syndicate.
     
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    It would be nice if they were under a top level heading with sub threads underneath. It's been a problem searching for the benchmark thread after a few weeks of no posts :)
     
  40. hmscott

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    It may be early for reports for the GT80 yet, but there is a thread where people have been posting results for the 6820HK from all laptops.

    There haven't been any reports of a 6820HK stable OC higher than 4.0ghz, and none of them have been able to affect the TDP. These could be due to early BIOS limitations.

    Another item of note, according to the Intel chart below Skylake CPU's have Max Turbo limits at 1 core, 2 core, and 4 core utilization.

    At default the 6820HK has a 4 core limited Max Turbo multiplier of 32x, dual core limit of 34x, and 1 core limit of 36x, base multiplier of 27x.

    At default the 6920HQ Skylake has a 4 core limited Max Turbo multiplier of 34x, dual core limit of 36x, and 1 core limit of 38x at default, base multiplier of 29x.

    SkylakeH.png

    Also reported, the 6700HQ Skylake ignores XTU multiplier settings, even for BIOS's that enable OC.

    Prema said all Skylake HQ's are XTU multiplier limited, but so far no reports for the 6920HQ.

    Anybody got a Skylake HQ/HK CPU yet? I want guinea pig-- I mean testers.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-yet-i-want-guinea-pig-i-mean-testers.782689/
     
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  41. hmscott

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    Sorry to say that at stock speeds that message indicates a flaky GPU. You should never see this message at stock speeds. You have already tried different Nvidia drivers and OS changes, so it looks like you have eliminated software solutions.

    You have 2 GPU's, so it might only be one with a problem. You can debug this to find out which GPU is bad, or leave it up to MSI RMA to debug / replace the GPU.

    Use the Nvidia Control panel to change the SLI setting to single GPU, and then try 1 GPU at a time to find the sensitive one.

    It might take a while, as it sounds like it is only happening occasionally.

    So you could push the GPU clock/memory clock a bit using MSI Afterburner to help identify the bad GPU a bit quicker.

    Usually we all use the Nvidia driver failed/restarted pop up to help tune the OC on the GPU. If you have increased the GPU clock / mem clock too high, you get this message. At stock speeds you should never see it.

    After you find the bad GPU, be sure and contact MSI for RMA assistance, or your seller if your warranty is through them instead of MSI direct.
     
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    Ya I understand all the posted stock intel details which have been out for 4 months and I have mentioned the skylake trickery on other threads but I still haven't really seen testing from the 6820HK that was a confident conclusion but I will revisit that thread again in the case I missed something. To say its too early for the GT80s I don't agree with, I could have had one in my hands more than a week ago if I wanted.
     
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    Never thought it would be so difficult to get results. By the way it's going, Broadwell will outperform skylake.
     
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    Not a huge number of systems out there in the hands of those who know what they are doing. It takes time to figure things out.
     
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    Don't see that with Clevo ;).
     
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    There is not a huge amount of activity with their soldered systems either. The desktop ones are cheating a bit because they are more of a known quantity.
     
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    I got two questions. I got my laptop back today from the RMA; and they fixed the intel management engine issue. The problem now is that they upgraded it to Windows 10. Will I be okay on Windows 10? My second question is about the new drivers. Are they stable enough to use? Thanks.
     
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    No keys :(
     
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    After rollback, I had driver version 353.30, release date 6/22/15, for the last 4-5 days.

    Now I just installed the latest version - 359.00, release date: 11/19/2015.
     
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    If it ends up that I have to get the GPU replaced, then it would be really painful. :( I am not sure how long this process takes, but it would be very hard from me to be without a laptop for a few weeks (almost impossible due to work) - if that is what it is going to take to get it fixed. Anyhow, I have to deal with it. :)

    Not sure if this means anything at all, but today is the first time I got this error: "nvidia driver has stopped responding and had recovered." In previous occasions, laptop would freeze and I had to eventually switch off power and switch it back on.

    In any case, I just installed the latest version of the Nvidia driver. I am hoping this makes some difference to my problem. I also looked up some other forums and found that people suggest that I switch to High Performance in power options - and turn OFF Link State Power Management in Advanced Power Settings -> PCI Express. I have done them both.

    Now I have to just wait and see if I can replicate the issue again.

    Hoping for the best!
     
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