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    \/\/\/\/\/\- The Official MSI GT60-2OD Owner's Lounge -/\/\/\/\/\/

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by xMAR99, May 19, 2013.

  1. Yambanis

    Yambanis Newbie

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    Do u guys know the brand of the 1TB HDD that comes with it? Dunno if i should ge it with the standard one or get it without it and fit a scorpio blue instead
     
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    Been watching this thread as I would really like to upgrade but it is starting to seem that the 780M runs to hot for my liking
    especially compared to the 680M. Been down the road of constantly having to monitor temps and it drives me nuts.
     
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    Happy to see I'm not the only one running on this annoying fan.

    I guess I'm gonna ask for an exchange then, I can't really handle it especially for the price paid :/

    Gotta say this is a freakin' beast ! I just installed Max Paybe 3, everything on High (not ultra), AA 4x, Anisotropy 4x, Normal Tessaltion : it runs smooth :O
     
  4. cloudpm

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    Other than that, I've been repasting for the last hour : I cleant the whole CPU and GPU.

    I have one technic for you guys for the GPU since it has some small pieces of "cores" all around the main GPU core : put some tape on it in order to remove the thermal paste stuck on them.
    I put some Artic Silver 5 (for a test) whereas I do have some MX4.

    Here are my results : max CPU : 75°C; max GPU : 88°C after 30 min of playing Crysis 1 (ULTRA settings)...

    EDIT: one more thing, I'm using a Notepal U3 without the fans. I just put the GT60 on it.
     
  5. batman900

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    I have that same paste ready to go on when I get mine back. Those look like good results since I was around 63c idle before.
     
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    Mine is Western Digital, I'm pretty sure it's this one, judging by what it says in device manager. I have the GT60-2O C, but I don't think it's any different from the 2OD
     
  7. juliant

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    The fan noise should not be there at all! I had the same problem and bought one. Make sure you get the T&T one as a replacement. The one you have now in your system is NSTECH which is a piece of sh!t... I guess, you could ask for a replacement of the fan, but as far as it works and does not affect the performance of your notebook, they may not agree to replace it. (I am not sorry for the double post :D)
     
  8. xMAR99

    xMAR99 Notebook Evangelist

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    cloudpm Notebook Consultant

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    Do you know where I can get it ?? Something like ebay, delivering worldwide... I live in Europe mate ;)
     
  10. batman900

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    I might as well ask the same question but for the US mainland. Newegg will probably end up sending the same one back so I should be prepared.
     
  11. be77solo

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    Well, after looking at all the 780m machines for weeks, broke down and ordered a GT60 2OD-026US today. Should arrive Tuesday afternoon. Wanted a 15" this go round instead of 17", but was really tempted by Asus g750... ultimately price was more than I wanted to pay. Sager left a bad taste in my mouth years ago so wasn't a serious contender but I know guys love them. Alienware @ only 17" was bigger than I wanted along with price... nice looking machine though, and based on past experience I know the build quality is great.

    So, MSI it was! Pondered barebone but the price point wasn't as good as I've seen in previous generations. Plus I wanted bluray, so for the money the 026 made sense. Will probably swap the 128GB mSata ssd for a crucial 256GB I've got, so if anyone is interested in that and wants to try Raid, I'll probably have an extra sitting around.

    Only concerns are temps/noise and NOS system. Will be repasting when I get it so that should help temps, just hope I get a quiet fan! As for NOS, still curious to see how a bigger PSU works on these machines.

    Sorry for the novel, excited to play with her soon! Thanks to everyone on the boards for the info and great early reviews!
     
  12. erikranger

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    That is no novel, and welcome to the club. This machine has been nothing less than wonderful!!!

    I also swapped out both my drives and stuck a 840pro 512g in it. I am very happy about that move. I was only going to sell my 128, but as others hav ementioned you might want to keep it in case you have to RMA it. Also, there is a special adapter you will need in place of the mSata card for the SSD. I did not have one, but I mainly did not want the 1TB drive, so I used that slow for my SSD.

    Good Luck and enjoy!

    erikranger
     
  13. Yambanis

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    To tell you the truth, I removed the battery and the system is very quite even while gaming because the GPU does not overclock to that higher speed. Do I see decrease in the performance? No. Will it be have lower scores in benchmarks? Yes, ofcourse.

    Why is that? I think you already know the answer; the CPU / GPU needs extra power and unfortunately the PSU can 'offer' only with limits...
     
  15. juliant

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    I PM'ed you with his details. The gentleman is also in Europe and he is very reliable. The minute you pay him the money with your paypal account, he will ship the fan ASAP. You will get it in few days. Believe me, it makes a difference.

    P.S. Do not meddle with the current fan, there is nothing you can do about it (I tried to fix it and did not succeed - it became more quite but there is a lot of work to do it; I am a software and hardware engineer :p). Just use it until you get the replacement.
     
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    I can't seem to figure out how to pm, could you please pass that info to me as well? Also, is the replacement a better part than stock or the same? Thanks!
     
  17. juliant

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    Hello everyone. I have read through this entire thread and have ultimately decided to order one of these bad boys for myself :D Ryzeki's review also helped my decision a lot. I want to get a very good headset to go with the seemingly awesome audio system in this laptop.

    I am currently considering the Sennheiser PC 350SE gaming headset, it is pricey at $200 so I wanted to make sure it is a good match for this laptop. Is it overkill or will it pair up nicely with the audio system and Sound Blaster software? The price does not bother me much as Sennheiser is a great company with good warranties; I just want to make sure it isn't overkill for the sound chip in this laptop.

    I have high hopes though, since MSi is the only laptop I know of to use gold plated jacks (which in my experience does help with clarity). Thanks and I can't wait to get this laptop!
     
  19. majster msi

    majster msi Notebook Evangelist

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    xMAR99 Notebook Evangelist

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    Has anyone managed to do a clean windows 8 install?

    It keeps asking me for a key when it should detect it automatically (key should be embedded).
     
  21. batman900

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    Boom post 5. Ordered a plextor m5m while waiting for my laptops return.
     
  22. Killerinstinct

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    I have, i didn't have that issue , did u make legacy or uefi bootable windows 8 usb installer ,

    if u didn't make it UEFI , u can try to do it following this instructions:

    UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 8 with
     
  23. panzerkiller13

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    I haven't looked at that headset in particular, but I can tell you that I got a pair of Sennheiser HD 595s and 280 Pros a few years ago and it's awfully hard to go back to anything less on any machine. They sound SO much better than your average headphones it's not even funny, and once you hook them up to a high quality stereo or a PC with at least a decent sound card the separation from run of the mill headphones becomes that much greater.
     
  24. juliant

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    I think you are trying to install windows 8 pro and that is why is not working. You google a copy of windows 8 'standard' and that should solve your problem.

    Please keep in mind that you will lose the function button on the touch panel for 'multimedia' cyberlink windvd 10 (even if you install it by yourself separately). MSI does not distribute this software and it comes preinstalled only (though I did not try the backup driver dvd which came with this system, to see if it is saved there :D).
     
  25. panzerkiller13

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    Could you please check that to see if it is on the DVD? I don't want to uninstall something that's worth keeping and not be able to get it back when my computer comes in :D
     
  26. juliant

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    No. It is not on the DVD. However, I mentioned this earlier on the thread. You are better on just creating backup dvd's or usb stick (yeah, I made a copy on a usb 3 stick which will be quicker to restore) and have your windows reinstalled. Remove all the 'garbage' that you do not need from the system and have it customized just the way you want.

    Personally, I had windows 8 pro and had it installed (you must install windows 8 first and then upgrade to windows 8 pro). I do not care about that 'touch media button' on the media bar and I am more comfortable in having windows installed just the way I want it. Why? Because I have noticed that from manufactory / restore disks windows makes another partition of a backup and it shortens the size of your ssd for about 15GB (or more). Normally I would had a ~60GB free space after having everything installed with the MSI backup / original configuration + my software installed.

    With clean windows installed and all my software I get 80GB free space... I guess if you make a windows backup image at the end of the backup it will ask you if you want to remove the image from the system and that will get you back the additional space wasted. I hope you guys got my meaning :)
     
  27. juliant

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    You can create Raid from Intel RST software itself for the drives you wish to have them in raid. About the screws, I cannot help you; I had from some old systems parts and that is how I connected mine. I used 1 msatata sandisk (the one that came with the system) and 2 msata mushkin + 512GB ssd vertex (I do not use raid due to data failure in time and I see no reason for that since ssd's have plenty of speed). I have another mushkin msata installed in my alienware and it has been more than a year, never had a problem. I cannot see why those should have any issues; they are pretty stable. But if you prefer intel, I totally agree that are more reliable.

    As per the memory, I think you should just leave it as it is, you have plenty of memory at 16GB, as a matter of fact we do not even need that much... Unless you are in IT and you use a lot of VM systems and troubleshooting... Otherwise, I have never seen windows and programs using more than 3-4GB after a long time of use... Don't waste your money just because you want to have 32GB memory. Buy a third msata disk and have them in raid, that is a better investment.
     
  28. panzerkiller13

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    I'm a little confused by what you mean at the end. Are you saying Windows makes a 15GB recovery partition but will give you an option to delete that partition if you create some restore discs? In that case, I'm going to get some CDs or a flash drive as soon as I get my computer, I want my free space! xD
     
  29. juliant

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    Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. When your system comes you can make a recovery usb stick or 4 recovery dvd's. Also windows by default has another partition occupied on your ssd for the restore system. You can even make a backup of that.

    1. The backup of MSI is located on your 1TB hdd;

    2. The windows restore system is located on your ssd.

    I do not know why they have done that, I guess to be double careful in case you mess up your system completely :D
     
  30. the_profesor

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    I'm kind of curious now, gentech offers a clean install and I wonder if they just take off the bloat ware and install all of the preconfigured software for MSI, or just clean install period. The reason why is maybe they have access to oem software we don't.
     
  31. xMAR99

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    Awesome, thanks, +rep :)
     
  32. juliant

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    In case you want to upgrade from windows 7 to windows 8 pro, you follow those instructions:

    Your key is an update only key... meaning it won't allow a fresh install... unless you do the registry workaround from Windows 7.

    You need to open a run box and type: "Regedit"

    Then located this key:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE/

    And find the one called "MediaBootInstall".

    Double click that and change it from a 1 to a 0.

    Then open up cmd as an administrator

    Type the command "slmgr /rearm"

    You will get a restart your computer message.

    Restart

    Then when your computer restarts you need to open a run box again and type "slui.exe 3" and it will allow you to enter your product key and activate :)
     
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    Hello everyone I have had my msi gt60 2od for a few weeks and love it! However... the webcam on it isn't not detected nor is it working. I can't seem to find any drivers or what not for the webcam... anyone else have similar issues?
     
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    Try the key combination of Fn+F6
     
  35. donkeyboyie

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    omg i feel stupid now. thank you
     
  36. juliant

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    I love your forum name :D

    P.S. You have the ' G' touch key, there also you can enable it...
     
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    i will buy the GT60-2OD soon but i worry about the temperature , my room temperature is 31c/32c ( SE Asia ).....
    Now i using MSI GX 640 with facing overheat before but i fix it by notebook cooler , repaste thermal compound , remove dust from the fan and force the fan run in 100% .
    Is that GT60-2OD safe/worth to buy compare to the Sager P150SM ?
     
  38. felix3650

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    They went that way to make use of WinRE supplied with Windows 8. You know, the (temporary) preinstalled environment, able to boot even if Windows can't boot anymore and supplied with proper SATA drivers. That is used even for features like Restore to Factory and Refresh available through PC Settings :)
    Having the backup image on the same drive you wish to restore to is not the best thing to do.
    Guys, before burning a Windows 8 DVD, extract the ISO file in a folder and search for a file named "ei.cfg" Remove that and you'll get an universal 8 Core/8 Pro disc ;)
    Also for those willing to reinstall a fresh copy there's a tool to backup your OEM activation and restore it incase you don't want to mess with UEFI booting:

    http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/40897-How-to-preserve-Windows-8-OEM-Activation-Guide

    :D
     
  39. cloudpm

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    Really good stuff Felix, I did not know about that :D

    @juliant : thanks for the mp ;) You're really helpful "bro" ;D

    About the topic, I have the Europrean version of the GT60 2OD meaning : 4700M, GTX 780M, 8 go, and only a 128 go SSD.
    I noticed my recovery partition was hidden by win 8 but can easily be found via "settings and manage" of your desktop icon. The thing is : it is a partition of 20 GO ! (out of 120 go available of a SSD, it's quite a lot).

    I burnt the 5 recovery DVD (yes over here, it's 5 discs) : question : do you guys have deleted the recovery partition ? Or should I keep it just in case ?
    Thx :)
     
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    If you have the discs burned there is really no need to have recovery partition take up valuable storage space. If something catastrophic happens and you have to do a clean install you have everything you need, just label the discs and put them in a safe place you will remember.
     
  41. juliant

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    cloudpm, You could make a copy of your system with paragon or acronis (though I recommend paragon), and save it on some drive if you have spare, just to have 'double' backup. Follow MSI logic :D

    I personally do not use the 1TB and I have also made a backup on a usb 3 stick...
     
  42. IronSheik

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    I have a clean install from Gentech. It is a clean install of Win 8 with only the contents of the driver CD added. I've happy with this, but I believe I'm missing two things that come with the stock system.

    1. Pushing the media player button does nothing, I'm not sure what software the stock systems use for this.
    2. I don't have MSI branded recovery software that I've heard others reference. But this function can be accomplished other ways.
     
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    That should be a good match, the headphone jack is amplified to power those headphones, and there is a separate microphone input so you won't need an adapter. I'm pleased with my Sennheisers using this laptop. The audio output on this MSI is on par with soundcards in the $100-$150 dollar range.
     
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    Thanks for the input guys! I'm even more excited now. One last question before I put in my order today.

    It was brought to my attention that the Killer wired and wireless networking have some serious issues in Windows 8 (and some cases Windows 7). For example, Killer's facebook is full of nothing but complaints and there are many more complaints all over the web. Are you guys experiencing any of these issues or have they been fixed? I can't seem to find out elsewhere; the only thing I can find is work-arounds and I don't like using work-arounds on a brand new product.
     
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    Pushing the media player button normally opens Cyberlink PowerDVD.
     
  46. xMAR99

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    I've never had any network problem. I downloaded the latest windows 8 driver from their website and everything works like a charm :)
     
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    This is disappointing in some ways, if indeed those are the 2 things you loose from a clean install. I googled Cyberlink PowerDVD and there are downloads for the program but is it as simple as downloading it and then the media magically works, I think not. I would be nice if MSI allowed us to program the touch buttons, it just bothers me a little that I'm pay $2000 for a system and in the end getting dead buttons just because of a clean install. Can anyone confirm redownloading Cyberlink PowerDVD after a clean install and getting it to work with the media button. I might just op out of the clean install anyways, report from people here were that it was a relatively bloatware clean laptop.
     
  48. felix3650

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    I wouldn't put such high expectations fron an integrated sound chip :p
    Remember this: you could put even a Class AB, gold infused amp but you're still limited on the chip's sound quality output.
    Believe me, I use a dedicated DAC (digital audio converter) and the difference is like night and day. Even Creative with it's X-Fi line doesn't come close. The only dedicated sound card to ever reach audiophile grade quality is Asus' Xonar.
    Anyway without going off topic I'd reccomend the Audio Technica ATH-M50 or Shure SRH-940 and even some Grados. Those are high quality "cans", how they call them in the audiophile arena ;)
    Being an electronics engineer has its disadvantages: you tend to aim for even more and the pocket suffers, sometimes a lot :p :D
     
  49. ryzeki

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    As far as I know, you can download everything for your branded model through the MSI page. I rememebr downloading the Cyberlink PowerDVD software. You can also additionally ask for such software from your reseller. If the media button normally opens Cyberlink, it makes sense it does nothing when pressed if you lack the software. It would be cool to manipulate the buttons and make them do what we want, but I don't complain, I like my system as is :D

    As for the Killer network issues, I am also intrigued as I have 0 issues so far on my system using stock drivers and all.
     
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    Some of the audio setups integrated into some of the latest desktop mobos looks interesting with separate PCB area for them (electrically isolated from the rest of the board).
     
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