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Screw the librarians anyway...lol
I know what you mean in mobile scenarios ( I travel way too much for work ) but I guess that's what the turbo fans are for and yes they are annoying but at least they get the job done.

 

anyone else struggling with steam? had it before and it was being buggy so i reinstalled, now it is stuck on updating and wont progress...maybe i need to go back to an older driver?

 

I see around the same except my temps are usually a few degrees lower than that while gaming BF3 at max non turbo fan. But with turbo fan I see pretty much the same temps! The turbo fan does work excellent and provides a cool, fast laptop, but at the cost of the noise. My fiance thinks it is crazy and drives her nuts while shes studying or watching TV. I can't hear it while gaming because I wear ear buds, so at least while gaming it isn't noticeable to me. Maybe a driver or vbios/bios fix from MSI will change it a bit. Create a better medium. I do for one love that the laptop is basically silent while doing anything other than gaming. And the battery life for a gaming laptop is superb IMO. Will be hanging onto this laptop for a couple years easily.

 

No issues with Steam... what driver have you updated that you think might be related? Steam is typically very stable across most platforms/drivers. Has been perfectly stable on my GT60. When did the troubles begin?

 

Yep, there's my struggle ha...I often game on the couch beside my fiancé in the evenings... never been an issue in the past but now when I have to kick in turbo fan, which yes cools fantastic, but also raises eyebrows and admittedly is rather intrusive. Trying to find a solution! Normal fan speeds aren't an issue noise wise, but they don't quite cool well enough. Great laptop otherwise I agree

 

Why not try pherein's tool? use up to 70% of cooling fan and see if it helps you that's what I use. 70% cools good enough to keep the machine under the underclock threshold and maintain full turbo boost speeds all the time, while being somewhat less noisy than Full turbo fan. I find that anything above 70 gets too noisy, but compared to turbofan, it is acceptable.

 

Hi,

I just got it today. Anybody here know how to access recovery mode? I tried pressing F11 but have no luck.

 

I've just ordered one of these. I had ordered the G750JX, but canceled. Snapped up one of these. Will be my first MSI. Only one way to find out if its too loud...

This is going to replace my desktop. And could even be more powerful!

 

Well, decided to give the 320.49's a shot, here are the results after a quick 3dMark11 run to see if they installed properly:

Stock:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700MQ,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F4

+135, +415:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700MQ,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F4

Temps with turbo fan are great as usual, CPU maxed at 63-66C across the cores, GPU maxed at 65C

Will report in with any issues with games when I get a chance to play, but they seem to have installed just fine once you modify the nvwin.inf as posted elsewhere.

EDIT: was tinkering with the Intel Tuning Utility, and no idea if I did anything in reality, but based on the GT70 thread I bumped the ring slider to 36x instead of 34x. Ran 3dMark11 again out of curiousity:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6824366

Temps were the same as above. Physics score was actually a bit lower, not sure why... overall score improved a bit however, might have just been a variance in runs?

Just throwing that out there... this is with a 4700MQ

 

@juliant Are you running raid0 x 3 in yours?

Edit: Can't seem to find this info in the thread but if you wanted to repaste the CPU, you have to remove the GPU heat sink too? Is that correct, because of the thermal bridge.

 

Yes you have to remove the GPU heatsink as well to repaste the CPU. Also welcome to the MSI side Hendrickson. I thought from other posts you made that you considered MSI to be poor quality and a hot box lol. I am glad you decided to give them a shot and I am sure you're going to love your GT60. You will find that MSI GT series machines are very easy to maintain, and upgrade.

 

Thanks, yes I still do think that it will be hot. But I will give MSI a shot. Only one way to find out is hands on. Maintenance was one of the major reasons I canceled my G750 order and got the GT60 instead. I don't think I can be bothered opening up another G series Asus just to clean the fans out. The Asus was also delayed...

I see you have the 4900MQ, did you install that yourself? I'm thinking I will have to repaste, but I will need some ram thermal pads for the GPU heat spreader. Did you replace yours or just reuse them? (if you did it yourself that is)

 

If you are doing it anyway use some 0.5mm quality pads.

 

I did replace the 4700MQ with a new retail 4900MQ. Not the most cost effective way to go about it, but I didn't purchase the GT60 from a reseller and was an after thought deal. I still have my 4700MQ and have decided to hang onto it incase I need warranty service. I am no sure how MSI would feel about a CPU upgrade. Maybe I will call or email them and ask.

Also I did change my thermal pads, but I used 1mm pads on both the GPU and CPU. If you are careful, you can reuse the old pads, just make sure they are put back in place. Just be careful not to tear them if you need to reposition the stock pads. Using my 1mm pads didn't change temperatures. 0.5mm might be better as Meaker has pointed out, but I cannot say either way.

 

Did you purchase through a reseller ? If so contact them first. If you bought it from a retailer IE Bestbuy exchange it.

10 days old hopefully you can find a faster solution then getting it repaired.

 

Sorry for the late reply. No I do not use RAID mod in any of my systems. Though there are people using raid for many years, I am still against it. I had once very important data and sometimes is based on a daily work (I do not backup my stuff every day) and had everything erased. Ofcourse from that time to now, raid has been improved a lot but I am still more happy without it. It is better safer then sorry

 

So, don't tell them about it... Just focus on your problem without talking out of the way. BTW, it is very easy to remove the screen without even removing anything from the back of the system. The media bar can be removed with some special plastic tools (so that you do not scratch it); it is fixed in clips and then you have full access at your screen, including the hinges and cables.

 

Exactly what Juliant said and focus on the problem with the machine forget about adding the SSD and free that from you're mind because that is not the issue at hand.

Once they take the machine outta the box and see the screen freaked out that will be enough for them to know its broken. Unless there are signs of damage throughout which it sounds like there is none other then removing the sticker you should have 0 to worry about.

I really doubt Beach Camera will be doing the repair anyhow and will probably just replace it and send that one packing to MSI.

I believe Beach Camera is pretty large company as well so i dont think will sit around and scrutinize a sticker being removed .

 

Yeah the screen is more then likely shot. With all my past experience and seeing people with similar issues it came down to a bad panel.

 

I have seen that MSI dragon guy post a few times in the past couple days but i think he is the only one and i dont know how active he is.

I do not know how fast the turn around time is for repairs but sometimes things can take days or weeks that is why i would explore the return/exchange option first.

 

Just contact MSI, you have advanced warranty. They will straight away tell you to send it to them to have the panel replaced. I was not suggesting you to open the screen to look into it, it was just a statement. In worst case, if you cannot have it replaced because of lost of warranty, to know how to replace it. It is a probably 15 minutes job. I can even guide you where to buy the screen from in the worst situation. But first contact MSI and see what is to be done. Don't prolong the situation as you may end up with some other complications unnecessarily.

 

Yeah, don't risk the warranty but in the worst case it is a fairly simple job.

 

steam is ed and all my drivers are up to date, i dont know what to do =( everything else works fine but i cant play my games so im pretty bummed out,,,

also the "G"button on the center right console...it that supposed to stay lit after i press it or no?

thanks

 

DISREGARD,! uninstall and fresh install did the trick =)

 

I received my machine and found that the "I" key is loose. The rear of the key (near 8 and 9) flips up with nearly every press. The key usually does not respond till it is pressed back in place. Other than that I love it. I purchased from Gentech and had great service from Ken Lee. I sent him some photos of the problem key. Anybody else have a keyboard problem or know of an easy fix? There are metal brackets arising from the base of the keyboard on each side of the rear of the key (the rear is what flips up to about 30 degrees). I wonder if something on the bottom of the key is broken, but it is hard to see. I hate to return for a repair over this one issue. It would be nice to repair at home and am wondering if a little super glue on the tip of the metal brackets might work. I'm not doing anything till I get some advice.Thanks

 

Hi, I trying to install the 320.49 driver for it right now but it won't let me. I tried to use modded ini file at page 91 but have no luck. Anybody success on that?

 

In case nobody has noticed, MSI has updated the fan control system on the GT60 2OD (it has increased the RPM by default, temperatures are much much lower now... Direct link MSI Global – Download Center

 

How do you find noise levels with this new EC firmware?

 

Unfortunately I have not played any games so far, but at idle the speed of the fan is increased a bit and it keeps the system cooler by about 3-4 degrees... Now its very late here (passed 4 am) and I am going to sleep. I will try tomorrow but most probably will be others coming up with a report before me.

 

I expect Ken/MSI to send you a new keyboard in

 

Interesting! New temps and how much louder the new fan profile are would be great.
If you can post the difference before and after would be good to see.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/718530-official-msi-gt70-2od-owners-lounge-84.html#post9268496

Check the link here, and then the follow up with a couple more tips a page or two later.... worked great, drivers installed just fine. I've been running them a few days with good results.

 

Great, thanks for the heads up and link... I'll have some time this afternoon to give it a try and compare. Excited to hear they already released an update.

 

Sort of weird question but is it easy to take the stickers off?

 

Thank for that link, it's worked when I disable driver enforcement. Another thing is, does anybody have trouble with USB 3.0 port. I have 2 external hard drive, one is 4TB HGST Touro, it can't work with all 3 USB 3.0 port (fine with 2.0). And 1TB WD My Passport can't work with one USB 3.0 port ( the port closest to heat vent) other port is OK. Other devices worked well with all of them.

 

Now at post (for who doesn't know what that means, when you turn on the computer ) the system fan turns on for about few seconds at ~75% of the speed, I think it does some tests... It is a bit annoying, knowing that before it was very silent.

Other then that, I think it is more or less the same, except at idle the system fan runs at higher RPM, but it is not noisy.

My advice is, if at idle you have no issues with your temperature or fan noise, do not update your system to this version (there is no need), because it does not increase the speed while gaming, it is still the same. I think this was made for people with the NSTECH fan issue...

I thought I should add here more information instead of writing another post...

For those of you who have the NSTECH fan and do not have money or do not want to upgrade / change it to T&T model (and do not mind voiding the warranty for the fan), open the sticker behind the fan and put a single drop of oil (The same oil used for the rechargeable shaving machines - Braun for example), just one drop, not more than that and let it sit for 5 minutes until the oil goes all the way down.

Please note: do not meddle with the fan, do not touch anything as you may end up damaging it or with more noise than what you already get (This fan has some rollers inside and those are making a lot of noise; while applying little bit of oil it will be smoother and more silent then what you are getting now; I guarantee that the noise you are getting now it will be reduced by atleast 50%).

 

I agree completely with your thoughts on the new EC flash, mine behaves the same manner you describe, except now my Nstech fan is nosier at idle due to it's slightly increased speed. I'll have to try the drop of oil next time I have the back off.

At POST it spools up, then slows back down. I also notice no difference under load/gaming. Disappointed, was hoping they sped it up a bit!

EDIT: IKAS V, yes, the stickers come off easily. Gently peal, then the residue wipes off without any issue. I took a couple of them off myself.

 

Anyone know how to go about getting an unlocked bios? I want to be able to take advantage of my 4900MQs unlocked turbo multis. I am hoping a fully unlocked bios will give me access to TDP and I will be able to OC with XTU.

 

The only one I know who will be able to do that is Svl7 from tech|inferno. He is also a member on this forum and he may most probably see my notes . You could PM him about it...

 

Awesome! I was bugging them for a while! I was messing a lot with the fan profiles but if they fixed them themselves?better.

 

Huh, I don't know.... I don't think my temps really changed, nor I noticed any particular change inthe fan RPMs. Maybe I didn't install it correctly....

 

I also tested , no real difference. Besides the cold start, the fan rotates at 5sec background.


Also , it is normal without overclocking, the HybridPower (NOS) works in game? (GT60 20D 4700QM and GTX 780m)

I tested without battery (HybridPower off force), the CPU throttle (0.8ghz/1.3ghz!) in 3dmark and game, the gpu is ok full

normal?

Thanks

 

Usually the CPU skips cycles rather than changing its frequency to throttle, what's the throttle % in intel XTU?

 

So there are new fans in the latest versions of the GT60 that are a tad better? If so.. does this also apply to the GT70 model or just GT60?

 

You guy think this will work?


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Gentech is great, I have been dealing with Ken for years.

As for the banner in the signature it's just a way of saying thanks for great service and showing you're appreciation.

Totally optional and more just a gesture of goodwill.


If everyone that had the banner in their signature was working for Gentech that would be one gigantic payroll each month .

:thumbsup:

 

Upon further use, I would advise against installing the updated EC fan profile... it has made my fan idle a bit faster which with the NStech fan makes the "rattling" sound much more noticeable. Also, it spools the fan to FULL speed when first starting up or waking from sleep, which it didn't do before and is annoying. And finally fan speeds under load seem to be no different and still too hot (non turbo fan mode), so they made changes but didn't bother to actually fix the problem. I'd advise staying away! If I could easily reflash to the old EC firmware I would, but I don't know where to locate the file.

 

Screen for explanation

the first test on 3DMARK 11 (35/40sec) , cpu throttling ! gpu ok !

screen xtu for the cpu and frequency , no overclock

why ?

 

I did warn you about that I guess you can write to MSI and ask them to send it to you. If I knew the name of the file, I may have been able to help you...

 

i actually don't mind the start up fan , cuz it makes sound like sports car when it starts up ... also i don't turn on and off my computer enough to be annoyed about it