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    Discussion in 'MSI' started by xMAR99, May 19, 2013.

  1. Hendrickson

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    You have tried the common fixes if that fails. Like the pixel unsticker videos etc. Nothing you can do about it. Don't MSI support if it bothers you that much?

    My HDD access light is dead. Again MSI support to fix that would be expensive courier fee with FedEx or DHL. So I just put up with no hdd light.
     
  2. ryzeki

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    Those kind of dead pixels (they are basically called stuck pixels) are simply stuck in a particular color in a way. I had a samsung TV with a pixel whose blue portion didn't work, so red and green hues showed correctly except blue.

    Not sure if there is a particular fix for this, mine was caused by an HDMI cable, and it self fixed after 3 months. I have another monitor that always shows it. Who knows?!
     
  3. juliant

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    I am not recommending this, but for me it worked once on a SONY monitor / with tv tuner built in. I had a dead pixel and no matter what I have tried, didn't work. Last what I did and it works even today (pixel problem has gone), I played with a magnet on the screen. I do not recommend doing this (yes, I repeat myself) as you may end up damaging / or not the monitor completely. You can get this monitor replaced for about $50-$60. The question is, can you do the replacement?! :D
     
  4. kpablo

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    Guy, i need an advice...

    My plextor m5m has arrived and tried to proceed with trasnfering oem SO to this ssd... i made recovery disks (4) with MSI Burn Recovery.
    I disabled secure boot in bios.

    Recovery starts, i click yes in 2 advices about losing all data... then it pop a windows and says something like the partition has to be the same, the name has to be the same...

    What is the solution?

    Thanks
     
  5. Mr Lahey

    Mr Lahey Newbie

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    Anyone have the new 326.80 beta driver? How did it install? Did you have to alter the .inf file? Is there improvements in games?
     
  6. Acapella75

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    I dont know about a beta driver but my windows update says their is a new nvidia driver avail to install so I assume its an official release?
     
  7. Hendrickson

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    When I installed my 3 x M5M 128GB plextors. I used the first option on the 4 recovery DVD's Not to format all drives but just the OS install. Try that.


    I'm running it and no complaints. Seems the best driver for me so far. I had to use a modded inf (from laptopdrivers2go) and then reboot with driver signatures disabled.

    EDIT: scratch that. After I posted this I got low ram warnings. Something I have never seen since my 4GB UX32VD. 16GB almost fulled up overnight. Massive ram leak issue is back! :(

    [​IMG]

    My G750JX 770M had adaptive vsync. But its disabled for some reason or not available on the 780M or is it an optimus thing?
     
  8. slayer2333

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    I instaled it and so far works slightly better than 326.59. No need to alter the inf file but make sure that you download the notebook installation file.
     
  9. Hendrickson

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    Oh I must have had the desktop version. Downloading from Nvidia this time.

    On a side note i decided to push my 780M to near its max and got P8872 :D on 3dmark11.

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700MQ,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F4

    I think I could hit 9k. My clocks are +175 core and + 520 memory 100% stable. No artifacts or anything strange. Played a few hours of war thunder at 1440p no issues.

    Downside is it requires cooler boost. Max 80 degrees and i loose about 1% battery every half hour. Those clocks aren't needed, just more for seeing what the 780M can do. I think with a 4900HQ or 4930MX unlocked and working correctly, could do 10k in 3dmark11.
     
  10. felix3650

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    The protective transparent layer on the big sticker of my GT60 just came off so I removed it. With it came off the main specs written on it :p
    Maybe I'll just write them by hand ;)

    [​IMG]

    I also managed to fit a 2TB 15mm hdd in the lower slot, the one below the touchpad. Had to make a small mod to the lower panel though :rolleyes:

    [​IMG]

    It should do nicely as an intake :p
    I'll cover it with a black metallic grill I've got here. It will turn out nice.

    Any suggestions? :)
     
  11. inglucasar

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    Hi can you send me 2 nstech o tt fan for a gt60 2od? I can pay you via paypal.
     
  12. Mr Lahey

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    I installed the new 320.80 drivers and now I'm only getting 325 clock speeds on BF3 instead of 850. My mem speed is also only 800 instead of 2400. Anyone have any help?
     
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    Perfect when you upgrade it :D You can now write in the correct specs ^-^.
     
  14. bucknut

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    Just got my laptop a week ago and have a couple questions. I tried searching the thread, but haven't found what I'm looking for.

    1. Is there any way to keep the trackpad from auto enabling itself? I have a mouse plugged in 99% of the time, but whenever I unlock Windows or start a game, it enables the mouse pad.
    2. When gaming, the power switch LED changes from white to orange. I assume this is hybrid power or is it any time the 780m is being used.
     
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    The orange light is indeed showing when the 780M is activated, it's great for keeping a check that nothing has enabled the GPU by mistake on battery.
     
  16. juliant

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    1. It should not enable by itself. I have a mouse (Logitech) dongle plugged in 24/7 and every time I turn the system on, the touchpad is disabled. Whenever I want to use the computer touchpad I simply enable it by pressing FN+F3. Try to reinstall your computer touchpad driver again and see if that helps (you can get it from here MSI Global – Download Center)

    2. While gaming if your light is orange (though I believe it is red), it is a good thing because your optimus works and your dedicated GPU (which is NVidia) is kicking in (Just like Maker mentioned that it is a really wonderful feature). So yeah, it is only changing the colour from white to red or orange (whatever you want to call it), when you use different types of applications, switching from the iGPU to dGPU to give you an idea if your machine performs as wanted.
     
  17. bucknut

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    It actually appears to be SCM that's enabling it any time I log into Windows 8.
     
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    Have you tried disabling it through SCM?
     
  19. Hendrickson

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    Almost brought Splinter cell blacklist for my Xbox 360... Then though, nah I want it in 2560 x 1440 with AA on :) Game is very intensive, Ultra setting kills the 780M, FPS with everything Maxed DX11 about 20 fps... Haha. I disabled the really fancy effects DX11 effects

    And run this:
    AF x 16
    FXAA
    Ultra textures
    High shadows

    And I get 60 fps all the time. Very smooth and still looks great. FYI 4900MQ inbound, for testing if it can play ball with XTU with an ok overclock I will keep it. If not will stick with the 4700MQ
     
  20. ryzeki

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    Woah, very nice! If I do get the game I will try your settings then :) I hope it does not have the same issue with multiplayer like conviction, which limits your framerate considerably.

    Do you have any recommendations for a monitor on the 32 inch range with QHD res?
     
  21. Hendrickson

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    So I've beening messing around with a 4900MQ OEM chip. So far not too impressed. I can't get much off an overclock out of it. Even with an unlocked bios. I have can run a single thread at 4.2Ghz. But when i tax the CPU 8threads it will drop the multiplers like its throttling.

    Even adjusting TDP levels in the unlocked bios. No real luck. Max I can do is 3.8 Ghz all cores stable stress testing. And that is undervolting the CPU core -100mV.

    Overvolting it a little has the effect of lowering top multiples....

    Temps have been good.

    SO not worth it. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4900MQ CPU @ 2.80GHz,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F4 Physics score of 92xx in 3dmark is good but. I think I'm going to put my 4700MQ back in and use my unlocked bios to overclock it like XTU without the need of XTU as it will be at bios level.


    BTW the unlocked bios from Svet (MSI forums, donation custom bios) has a huge range of options. Shame the bios or TDP limits can't make use of it. At least not using the 4900MQ. If you want an upgraded CPU go for the 4800MQ.


    On a good note I repasted my CPU and GPU due to the swap and this time went with IC liquid pro. I'm seeing improved temps. Maybe too because I removed some of the thermal pads and just used blobs of IC diamond instead. Mainly on the 780M samsung ram chips. And the chips next to the CPU on the left of it.

    Edit: It was fun if a big waste of time lol. Corrupted my Raid0 about 3 times in the testing process. And couldn't boot. Thankfully I have Aconis TI daily backups to restore.

    Best I clocked was 3.9 all cores with a -90 undervolt and messing with the TDP by setting TDP UP in the CPU info setting. And 4.1ghz single core max turbo.

    Not sure if to keep it or not. I guess I expected too much but according to my passmark.com score my overclock is close to a 4770k stock clocks :D Not bad for a 15" notebook. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-4770K+@+3.50GHz&id=1919

    My 4900MQ overclock score was 10191
     
  22. Talon

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    Nice score there Hendrickson. So with the unlocked bios you are able to change the TDP values in the bios? I am able to change them in XTU, but I'm guessing they don't stick.
     
  23. prtzlflpz

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    That seems like a really goof feature to have especially to save on battery. However, when I close all my programs and unplug the AC, the light stays orange. As I remember, the only time i've seen it white is when its blinking white in sleep mode. Is there a program that controls this feature? I may have lost it while removing bloatware. Do you think a background process could be using the dedicated GPU?
     
  24. Hendrickson

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    Unfortunately no. It has helped I think to a degree the unlocked bios. The CPU itself is limiting it I think now. But it makes scene why would intel let us increase the TDP to that of the 4930MX? They want to sell MX's so its normal. Svet also told me the MX CPU's would be the only ones that would let me really overclock.

    I think I was unrealistic thinking I could clock it like an overclocked 4930 and disappointment set in. However with hours of test and crash I found my CPU's sweet spot. Best of all the TDP remains. stock and temps are very good mid 70s 80% fan stress testing using XTU.

    I'm undervolted and overclocked the best of both worlds. 4 hours straight and its cooler and so far 100% stable.

    41 / 40 / 39 / 39 multiplers with -80 Mv undervolt on core. -60 on ring. Ring set to 41

    Here are some benches I used to run in the day on my 3820TG when I added my i5 580 and overclocked the hell out of it. Not sure they count now>

    [​IMG]


    So now I'm happy, the 4900MQ stays and this is a beast of a machine that I intend to keep for at least 2 years.
     
  25. be77solo

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    That means something in the background is using the Nvidia GPU or you have the machine set to exclusively use the Nvidia GPU and not the Intel gpu. Best bet is to go into Nvidia control panel and enabled the little icon in the task tray that shows you when the Nvidia GPU is active and lists what program is using it. Steam is set by default for example to use the Nvidia GPU when it's not needed and should be set to integrated.

    Also, another reason could be are you using an external monitor? An external monitor will also use the Nvidia GPU and keep the light orange (at least using HDMI and probably DP).

    By comparison, unless I'm playing a game or hooked to an external monitor, my light is always white.
     
  26. Vegetothe1st

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    Posted this in the 2OC Owner's Lounge, but going to post it here to get more people looking at it. It's probably not an issue between the models...

    ----

    Has anybody had issues getting the computer to go to sleep? It seems to be fine after it just boots up (meaning I can put it to sleep many times without problems), but after a while of being on it seems to randomly not want to sleep. This happens whether I close the lid, use the sleep hotkeys (FN+F12), or use the sleep command in Windows 8. The screen will go black, but the fan will not stop spinning and the keys will remain illuminated, and the computer becomes unresponsive until it is power cycled.

    Note that this does not happen all the time, but only occasionally. I'm not sure where the problem would lie...
     
  27. Talon

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    Hey man, which one is the ring offset in XTU? I don't have the unlocked bios flashed so I am adjust these values from inside XTU latest version. Thanks!
     
  28. Hendrickson

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    Its listed as cache voltage offset. Main thing is to undervolt where you can get the best chance of not hitting TDP limits.
     
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    Thanks!

    Also I just made a huge.. huge.. huge mistake that almost ended with disaster. I decided I was being brave or stupid and decided to adjust more settings. I adjusted the PEG/DMI Ratio to 1.25x. It rebooted to nothing. Just a black screen. Then kept rebooting over and over. It would boot up for about 10 seconds to a black screen and then restart again. I was unable to do anything. I tried to blind command the bios to defaults with delete key mashed, F9/F10 commands but nothing was workng. I panicked. I removed the battery and did a wait period and restart. Tried to drain the system of all power and then tried all above again. Tried to clear the CMOS with that wire near the fan. Nothing worked. I was convinced I was going to have to send it back to MSI.

    Out of desperation, I pulled out my 4700MQ, installed that, and magically it worked! I got to repaste and put my 4900MQ back in again. O well. I guess it was all a very good lesson, and now I have fresh paste again!

    DO NOT EVER ADJUST THE PEG/DMI RATIO IN XTU!! :eek:
     
  30. Mr Lahey

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    Yes I've been having problems. Same as you plus when I open back up the screen doesn't come back on so I have to reboot.
     
  31. Hendrickson

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    Wow lucky ;) I hate it when i do things like that. I only touch the performance options in the unlocked bios. If something doesn't work the bios resets next boot because I have not made it permanent. There is an option in the bios as a safe guard. Best not to touch that or BLCLK either (Not like only Core CPUs). I learnt the hard way back in the day too.

    2 hours of splinter cell and no crashes yet (Fingers crossed, looks my overclocking and undervolting is 100% stable) If I test CPU and run furmark for a while it will throttle once the CPU hits around 80c and the multiplier drops to around 37. But never will i be running both CPU and GPU 100% it was stable for 10 minutes but very hot to run any longer. I've noticed with my undervolted CPU, core, ring, GFX, io all undervolted i don't seem to be using hybrid.

    Does anyone know if the unlocked bios gives an option to disable hybrid? Can't seem to find it. I can disable the iGPU (Might test that for adaptive vsync)

    The unlocked turbos give a nice boost over stock that's for sure. PS CS6 64bit loads up a bit quicker. All 3 seconds of it. Video encoding is faster etc etc. My 4900MQ is here to stay. I'm also sick of opening my system up.

    On other note what battery life are people getting? I think my 3 plextor mSata's has taken a big hit on battery life. I will be lucky to get 3 1/2 hours with Wifi on.
     
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    The easiest way to get that setting to reset is to change the ram configuration (single stick or a different stick inserted) and it should recover.

    I have only started testing if it's possible to get the ratio changed so please leave that alone just now lol. You have to be very careful with that as the baseclock/DMI ratio must come together to set the SATA and such buses at 100mhz.
     
  33. Hendrickson

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    I would not touch even baseclock +1Mhz not with raid0 just asking for drive raid corruption.

    Here are my 4900MQ overclocking unlocked bios settings. Can be used for XTU

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Your mileage may vary, works great on my 4900MQ....
     
  34. Vegetothe1st

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    Well, glad I'm not the only one having issues anyway. I've been looking into the power plans and noticing that MSI's System Control Manager seems to be resetting the power plan to Balanced whenever it starts up, and I can't find a way to change this behavior other than preventing SCM from starting. This introduces other problems however, such as the touch buttons not working. I'm not sure the power plan changing is at all related to the sleep issue, but its just something I found while playing around.
     
  35. Talon

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    Updated BIOS Released Today....

    MSI Global GT60 2OD

    Description:

    1.Add temporary workaround to fix legacy mode display garbage on POST.
    2.Support Quadro K3100M.
    3.Modify device string length.

    Guess I'll give it a go. Doesn't look like much of a change there.

    Edit:

    Flash successful and all seems fine to me. Not sure what exactly they changed though?
     
  36. Hendrickson

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    I won't be using it will keep my unlocked bios I think.

    Anyone having issues with skype and as soon as I load it I get an instant BSOD and reboot....I don't think its related to my 4900MQ overclock as everything is stable for hours on end till i load skype.
     
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    So I just received my 20D today. I bought one from Amazon, and wiped the Win8 install after I received it.

    However, the one thing I didn't think of was PowerDVD. Is there a way to just install that, and not have to use the restore discs that I made for the machine? Seems like it'd be relatively painless, but I'm not sure how to get it back.

    Thank you!
     
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    Hi guys, I've had my laptop for about a month now but I've been having some issues with it. For one, the laptop gets stuck booting sometimes, the loading circle just stops and I have to try multiple times to be able to get on. Another problem is that the KLM isn't working. It was working at first and I had the 3 keyboard zones backlight but one day when I started my computer, the backlight is now all lightish blue and KLM doesn't do anything. Any ideas on how to solve these problems? Thanks
     
  39. ryzeki

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    This is an interesting question, I don't know and I don't think there was a download setup from the page right? Hmmm there should be a way to extract it or obtain it from MSI.

    Have you installed any suspisious software lately when the issues began? You should check if your SSD/HDD is working correctly, and as for the keyboad, try uninstalling KLM and reinstalling it. Does your backlight always remain ON?
     
  40. mwe

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    I've tried reinstalling KLM but no good. Problem is that I originally had the 3 zones with different color backlights and now the entire backlight is blue with a few keys green.
     
  41. Hendrickson

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    Did you do a no MSI win8 install? I found no matter what I did with a clean windows install I kept getting BSOD. However using the recovery DVD's I managed to advoid that so some driver or something that is missing from the GT60 drivers page but in the recovery dvvd's. My recent BSOD start sykpe issue is a skype problem. Its also caused high CPU load.
     
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    You're not really missing out on much, for me PowerDVD hardly works for Blu Rays - most of the time it's comes up with "Cannot read a file on the disk". Has happened with 7 disks for me, and the DVDFab Media Player trial played them just fine so it's not a problem with the disks/drive (well, shouldn't be anyway).
     
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    Thanks but your problem doesn't seem to describe mine. I have noticed that the backlight still works even without the KLM software. Are there any drivers that I could try reinstalling to try and fix the backlight?
     
  44. ryzeki

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    Have you updated power dvd? I had issues with it at first until i updated it and it started working perfectly. But in reality its true, sans bluray, you are not missing much. It doesnt seem to support 3d blurays either.
     
  45. bucknut

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    Updated to the latest BIOS. Was much easier to just put the new BIOS on a USB drive and load it in the BIOS. Not sure why the instructions are so complicated in comparison.
     
  46. Luto

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    Hi Guys,

    I got the GT60 with the GPU 780M chip and am running native resolution on the main screen. I want to hook up a second monitor at 1920x1200.

    I can't seem to get it to work. I tried the Intel iGPU (Power light is white) through the D-sub connector. No Go. Tried the mini-display port via an adapter to D-sub, which should be running the GTC 780M chip (Power light is Orange). Still no go.

    The adapter is reported (by other reviews) to work at 1920x1200.

    Has anyone been able to get a 1920x1200 resolution on a second monitor? If so how?

    thanks in advance,
    Luto
     
  47. Hellblade

    Hellblade Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah, I got that patch - there possibly might have been some other issue it did solve, don't quite remember, but it didn't stop the failed to read part.
    My drive often takes a few open and closes before it detects a disk, so maybe there could be a slight problem with the drive and powerdvd doesn't like it? (Once a disk is detected, they seem to be perfectly fine - and I'm talking disks in general here)
     
  48. syn1c

    syn1c Newbie

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    I'm currently trying out TotalMedia Theater and that seems to play Blu-Rays fine.

    Is there a way to reassign the touch sensitive buttons? Since I'm not using PowerDVD the movie icon does nothing, and since i updated the System Control Manager that button doesn't work either. I would figure this would be something pretty easy to do but haven't found a way to do it yet.
     
  49. adriano_banano

    adriano_banano Notebook Consultant

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    Does anyone have tried Bioshock Infinite yet? I´m trying to run it with 326.80 beta drivers but I can´t play for more than 1 minute before it freezes/crashes. I've tried reinstalling, turning off msi afterburner, setting off vsync, forcing dx9, but nothing seems to work :(
     
  50. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Does your computer detect the monitor itself? Check your nvidia control panel, it should appear there. I have used all monitor connections and used 4 displays simultaneously, but my max res per monitor was 1920x1080. First check if your monitor is detected in nvidia control panel in manage multiple displays tab. Then you can manually select and configure which display is on, and the resolution/settings of it.

    Could be. My drive has been working great as of late, but the very first week it had issues reading a disk that took a couple of open/close before being detected. Since it hasn't happened yet I ignored it as an issue, of probably being dirty? It might be worthwhile to check out and ensure it's working correctly.

    Have you tried using older drivers, or does it also crash regardless of drivers? Sorry I don't have the game to test it with my machine. Only this game acts that way?
     
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