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    -->*OFFICIAL: MSI GT627 Owner's Lounge*<--

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by faisalhero, Jan 29, 2009.

  1. iMpathetic

    iMpathetic Notebook Consultant

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    Don't have the laptop in front of me but I'm pretty sure it's the hard drive. Do you have a 7200RPM HDD? Also, aluminum spreads heat around so some of your heat is being exhausted through the aluminum body.
     
  2. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The HDD is on the left side. iMpathetic is right that aluminum spreads heat around, 55C for the GPU on idle is way too high. My 9800m gs was around 38C idle. So you should probably take the bottom cover off and clean out the dust, replace the thermal paste and make sure the thermal pads are in good condition.

    If you want to swap keys, you need a modded EC firmware, see this:
    Login

    You can use the one for the GX620.
     
  3. iMpathetic

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    I must say, thinking about that while sitting in class was very hard.
     
  4. stalin23

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    Well, it's pretty hot in where I am. Ambient temps are at around 35-37c. I rechecked and the GPU now idles @ 46c. On Furmark after a couple of minutes the GPU reaches 77c. Is that good or bad (pls take into consideration the ambient temps).

    Also, the bottom part of the case has warranty sticker, I don't think I can open it without removing it. Anyway I might consider removing it if it really starts getting hotter.
     
  5. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well then yes, your temps are ok.
    Now that I think of it, that area does get hot after gaming.
    I guess it's just how the notebook is.

    About the warranty sticker, I have been told many times by some mods on the MSI forums that removing that sticker wont actually void the warranty, maybe give MSI a call about it before you do, just to check.
     
  6. stalin23

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    From 5-13-09 http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/347317-official-msi-gt627-owners-lounge-80.html#post4839845
    The lowest VID for me is 0.925. How come his x6 VID goes lower than that? We both have P8600 processors (from his sig)
     
  7. stalin23

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    @moral_hazard
    thanks for the info on the warranty sticker. might take it off to clean the under side a bit.
     
  8. ikisat

    ikisat Notebook Geek

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    Just purchased one of these without a battery and I have a compatibility question.

    BTY-M68 is what comes up for the battery do the BTY-M66 batteries and CBPIL48 also fit?
     
  9. stalin23

    stalin23 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys how do I open the bottom of the laptop? I removed the single screw that holds the area for the proc/gpu but it won't budge.. Do I need to remove other screws surrounding the area?
     
  10. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    there are two screws, one with a warranty sticker over it.
     
  11. stalin23

    stalin23 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I see.. so that's why I can't remove the lid. A ninja screw. Thanks again moral hazard.
     
  12. treckin

    treckin Notebook Enthusiast

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    I called MSI and had them put a note on my open RMA that said I was authorized to remove the sticker. Sent it in with the sticker removed 2 weeks later, and the shipped it back with a new GPU a day later.
     
  13. catacylsm

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    How would you rate service then treckin?
     
  14. lackofcheese

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    Well, if they shipped it back a day later that sounds just fine to me. It's not as good as onsite service, or just shipping you a new model, but if you ask me it's enough that the warranty is there and it gets honored within a reasonable period of time.

    Tech support is a wholly different matter, but for me diagnosing my own issues is a matter of pride.
     
  15. treckin

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    Well, I would have given them a 5/5 (or 10/10, w/e lol), because not only where they fast, they actually reseated the bezel on the LCD for me that I never actually put back on fully in the lower right after switching to a 1920x1080 gloss screen.

    They also cleaned the snot outa the chassis, to the point that I had to check the keyboard wear and worn windows genuine sticker on the bottom to confirm that they hadn't given me a totally knew rig :)

    Anyway, the reason they get a 4/5 is because now the left lcd hinge has cracked from the actual lcd bracket, making it quite gay when I have to open the screen, which is thankfully not often (HDMI -> 52" HDTV ftmfw).

    After finals I will re-RMA it for that, but for right now, its dead week o-8
     
  16. Kevin

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    Any of you guys know anything about the PCI-E getting stuck at x1, instead of x16?
     
  17. catacylsm

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    What in the 627?
     
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    9800 I think. Powermizer may be ?
     
  19. Zangetsu57

    Zangetsu57 Notebook Guru

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    Has anyone had issues with their AC adapter connector becoming loose on the laptop? If so, is there an easy solution? I keep having to wiggle the connector.
     
  20. stalin23

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    Hi guys, just want to ask something. I have this laptop and it's almost a year old and I'm worried about the temperature, so I decided to change the thermal paste. I bought a Tuniq TX-3 thermal grease and applied it an hour ago. However looking at my current temps, it seems that it didn't go down. It actually increased a bit (about 1-3C).

    I'm thinking that maybe I applied it wrong. Do you remove the sort of thermal pad on the cpu (the grey thing that isn't thermal grease) or just leave it there? I removed some stickers but not the intel black stickers. How much paste do I use for the 9800M GS GPU? I used a really small round (pea type) application.
     
  21. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I didn't have that on my CPU, I don't believe it's needed.

    Suggest taking the heatsink back off and checking if the paste spread correctly. Then cleaning and re-pasting. A bit of trial and error and it should be right.

    What are your temps?


    My temps were really good with the 9800m (idle ~43 and max ~75 if I remember correctly).
    And again the CPU temps were good.

    I think you only need a thermal pad on the northbridge, vRam and inductors on the GPU.

    Though I replaced the thermal pad on the northbridge with a copper shim.
     
  22. stalin23

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    Yes, I'm actually thinking of removing the heatsink again and re-applying, but it's near midnight now where I'm from, and I'm quite tired from work. Will try this tomorrow though.

    (All temps taken with real temp, w/c shows 2/3 degrees more than HWMonitor, but same with HWInfo32)
    GPU idles on 51/52 on battery, 55-59 when plugged. Almost same temps as before. (Ambient temp is maybe around 30-32c).

    CPU seems to be doing ok. Normal temp is 41C. 10 minutes on orthos max temps I have is 66c. GPU temp shot to 62c though..
     
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    Last night, I couldn't stand it so I re-applied thermal grease. temps seems fine now on the CPU (however, not significantly lower than I expected) with no improvements on the GPU (still 50c on idle). I'm thinking that maybe, because of the thermal pads for the GPU RAM, the heatsink and the GPU chip are not having contact or little contact. But I checked the thermal grease that I applied, and it spread out really good, so it means that the heat sink and GPU have proper contact.

    Sigh, I hope after a couple of days it will be much better, if not time to look for other solutions to my temps..
     
  24. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Sometimes drivers can cause extra heat, maybe try updating them.
     
  25. stalin23

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    I'll try, but I'm not hearing good things about the latest nvidia drivers.
     
  26. jasonkang93

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    Hi im new here but can anyone upload their rom file for nvflash to flash the bios for 9800m gs to gts? Thnx! ive tried other ones but they fail for msi products T>T.
    Also another question is that how can i overclock more than 20% with the turbo button? Ive heard of people going up to 24%.
     
  27. moral hazard

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  28. jasonkang93

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    thanks! will try!

    EDIT: i have no idea how it works, and the post seemed dead pretty much, can you help me with it?

    EDIT: i have a p8400 (2.26ghz) duo core btw
     
  29. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Download setfsb here:
    SetFSB_HomePage

    Then run it, press enter,click ok, then click on diagnosis, click getfsb.

    Please take a screenshot of that and post it here, I can give you further instructions after that.
     
  30. jasonkang93

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  31. moral hazard

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    ok, see my attached image.

    For 24% you need to change byte 23 to "1F" and change byte 25 to "1E".

    So click on byte 23, then change the value in the Hex box to 1F, then press update.
    Then click on byte 25, then change the value in the Hex box to 1E then press apply.

    Hit your turbo button and you should get a 24% OC.
     

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  32. jasonkang93

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    wow thnx! i will try now
     
  33. jasonkang93

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    sry i do not c where to click byte 23 and 25
    EDIT: sry for double post
     
  34. moral hazard

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    Click on the value 1E.
    What I put a black line around in my picture.

    Do the same for 1D, just click on it.

    1E is the current value for byte 23 and 1D is the current value for byte 25.

    Just play around with it.
     
  35. jasonkang93

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    oh ok thnx! it worked!
     
  36. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    you can go higher if you want.

    Just add 1 (in hex) to both byte 23 and 25.

    e.g.
    originally:
    Byte 23 | Byte 25
    1E | 1D

    +1 +1
    ____________
    Byte 23 | Byte 25
    1F | 1E

    +1 +1
    ____________
    Byte 23 | Byte 25
    20 | 1F
    +1 +1
    ____________
    Byte 23 | Byte 25
    21 | 20
    +1 +1
    ____________
    Byte 23 | Byte 25
    22 | 21
    +1 +1
    ____________
    Byte 23 | Byte 25
    23 | 22


    And so on...

    you can go as high as you want.
     
  37. jasonkang93

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    hey i have a new problem now, it works but after reboot it goes back to the original 20% oc, any way to save it permanently? thnx!
     
  38. moral hazard

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    Right now I can't find a way to make it permanent.

    It might take a BIOS mod, or an update to setfsb.
     
  39. Silicon Chip

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    You said about a .bat file trick, wouldnt it work here? like reset to manually defined hex values at startup?
     
  40. moral hazard

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    Right now setfsb has no command that can change specific registers.
    Maybe if someone wrote to abo (creator of setfsb) and asked for that function to be added, then you could do it.

    And I'm sure it would be easy for him to add that function.
     
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    speedknight Newbie

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    I just flashed my bios from 1.0V to 1.0P oddly i only have the option to 10% OC.I guess cos mine is a Q9000?
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Hi from Singapore btw...
    and I saw my pic being used here it buried some where deep under haha that is an old MSI model btw Megabook 510C
     
  43. moral hazard

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    Did you upgrade to a Q9000 or did it come stock?
     
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    it came in stock =)
     
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  47. moral hazard

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    Does this notebook enter some special mode if you put one stick of ram in the second slot and leave the first slot empty?

    I ask because when I try to boot with a dead 3870 the notebook doesn't want to get past POST.

    But if I put the stick of ram into the other slot (the one I would call slot 2 because it is above the first slot), the notebook boots into windows (but nothing shows up on the screen obviously because the GPU is dead), I can hear the windows sounds.

    Anyway, it's strange.
     
  48. Jim_KT

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    I purchased a GT627-218US in March, 2009 for a new school laptop as a present to myself for going back to school for my masters.

    Lately, I have been also using it for games and was wondering if there are any GPU upgrade cards out there that are compatible with this laptop. I read moral hazard's FX3700 thread, but would also like to know of other options.

    Generic system specifications from MSI Mobile's site:

    • Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor P8600
    • Genuine Vista® Home Premium
    (MSI recommends upgrade to Windows Vista® Business)
    • 15.4" WSXGA+ / Glare (1680 x 1050)
    TFT-LCD Widescreen Display
    • Built-in Blu-ray Optical Drive
    • 7.1 Channel Output Recognized and Approved by the Highest Standards of Dolby®
    • HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) Output
    • Built-in 2.0 Mega Pixel Webcam
    • 802.11 a/g/n Wireless LAN with Bluetooth
    • 320GB SATA 7200 rpm HDD
    • NVIDIA® Geforce 9800M GS 3D Graphic Card
    (Build-in DDR3 1GB VRAM)
     
  49. moral hazard

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    An ATI 4850 would be a good upgrade.

    A 3870 would work, but I think it would be about the same as your 9800m GS.

    You could try a 280m, 9800m GTX, FX 2800m, 9800m GT, 8800m GTX, FX 3600m (the fx 3600m sometimes can go for $100 on ebay), 260m, 9800m GTS (what would be the point to upgrade to that card, don't know), but those cards might not work. I think someone tested a 9800m GT and it booted up throttled, so if you went for that card you might need to mod the vBIOS slightly.

    If you went for an ATI card, you might need to cut the heatsink a little so that it will fit.
     
  50. jasonkang93

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    Hi i have a gt627 with a p8400 core but i heard u could upgrade it a q9000m but i was wondering where i could buy one? ive asked my local msi service centre but they dont do upgrades and i cant seem to find one online...
     
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