7970M heatsink modification.

Which vbios have you flashed ? Might try another one, a Dell could be a solution.

 

I just did everything from the Blind-flashing guide to get it work from the black screen..flashing it with Dell vbios would not do any harm now?

 

I was trying to figure it out whole night, but it seems it's not going to work :/ That AMD 7970M modded vBIOS for HM laptops helped me with black screen problem indeed, because of how mr. jaybee83 wrote, original bios has build in IGP check i needed to get rid off... Right now the problem is that any vga driver i try to instal wont work ...without ccc installed i'v got bluescreen during windows start, and with CCC instaled, windows'll boot, but the catalyst control panel stops the driver on itself... I'm really a noob in those things, but wouldn't the DELL vbios cause black screen again? Maybe the problem could be that i'v got an old stock MSI bios ..

system is MS-16F2
NB was originaly NB MSI GT683 15,6"/i5-2430/6GB/500GB/GTX560/W7HP upgraded with i7-2630qm
BIOS info:
E16F2IMS.10U 09/01/2011
EC version 16F2EMS1 ver 4.23
07/15/2011

Thank you guys, for your kind advices, or any kind of help!!!

 

The BIOS isn't the culprit - at this stage, I advise you to flash to the Dell vbios - you could also install the 3.05 or 3.0R bios available in this section but it won't make any difference.

If it doesn't work with teh Dell vbios, then I dont know

 

I love you....I just love you man....Ladies and Gentleman...Ms. 7970m fully installed, with Dell bios and newest drivers..THANK YOU!!!!

 

Here's the 3dmark11 result on stock clock (Im gonna stick with stock after all this ) temps are good, drivers are latest MOD 12.11 Beta 7

 

Great benchmark score and temps look good in addition !

 

awesomnest! good job buddy, enjoy ur new beastly card

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ooooh I am man !! ) thank you all for your help!

 

You should have showed pictures your GX60 green 7970M gpu. I have the 7970M arriving too, so I could compare the scheme of 7970 with clevo and dell versions.

 

It's identical but green and a much better solder job on the surface mount components

 

What vbios are you supposed to flash onto the 7970 to make it work in my gx660? I understand it's dells vbios but which version?

 

I don't think it matters.

 

hi, out of curiosity
which do you think is better?
~525 USD 7970M (AMD, no PhysX, no CUDA), suitable with 670M heatsink?
or
~690 USD GTX 680M (with all features but 165$ more) hard mod heatsink?

 

The 680M for sure.

Sent from my GT-N7000

 

Especially since 7970M don't work in GT 60/70

 

Ouch, you mean 7970m works with previous generation MSI's but not recent ones? That's gotta hurt.

 

Yes basically.

 

Glad to hear that, because CLEVO gpu had a bad solder job and looked like a hand-made job.
It seems that MSI gpu is as good as Dell gpu.

 

Why do you think so?

 

is it because of optimus this gt60 has?

 

Wah sekarang udah pake GT60
iya kalo ga salah gara2 Enduronya Fan.
Mayan nih bisa upgrade MS 1761 gw.


**An old friend from your hometown

 

Like I promised then I'll post few pictures of GX60 HD7970M and it's heatsink.
Card components are really good and nicely soldered, although it has a difference from dell and clevo cards. For example it's missing crossfire plug but I don't need it and memory is of Hynix.
One thing makes me worried, that why doesnt heatsink have thermal pads on memory mosfets and also on one mosfet which purpose I do not know of? I was waiting for this card and cooler for 1,5 months (however I was promised to wait up to 3 weeks but it isnt important) and it seems that the bracket didnt come with the card and heatsink. I'm gonna look if GTX570M bracket fits or I'm gonna start searching from ebay because waiting for MSI Support takes too long time. Anyway here they are and if I've got the bracket then I'm ready to set it up and blink flash the card with dell vbios.

 

I don't know why they don't put thermal pads on some of the bits, I would recommend replacing the whole lot with 0.5mm phobya 5W/mk pads though.

 

aeh si agan lama gak muncul nih
iya gan gt 683 ny dibeli org.hehe
gak apa dah, gw mah kubu hijau terus
lg ngumpulin dokat buat upgrade gtx 680m neh, mahal edan 700 USD
tau gitu gw beli barebones ya, gampang upgrade nya T__T

 

You both MUST provide a translation, this is an english-only forum.

 

translate :

posted by teuing

hoo, so now you are using gt 60
yes, if i am not mistaken it's due to Enduro fan (irfan is my name, so he was addressing me)
not bad, i can upgrade my MS 1761


posted bu irfan wikaputra

long time no see bro
yup, someone bought my gt 683.hehe
ahh..it's alright, i'm always on green side (green refers to Nvidia)
i am saving up some cash to upgrade to gtx 680M, it's crazy expensive 700 USD
if i just knew, i would've bought the barebones

sorry and thanks

 

The 680M really is very expensive and is hard to justify in a machine without switching graphics as unhindered by enduro the 7970M posts some very impressive and consistent numbers.

Of course the GT series has to stick with Nvidia cards, though maybe look out for some GTX675MX cards, if people can confirm their compatibility they should be quite a bit cheaper and offer a good chunk of the performance.

 

Luckily in MSI nb, there're no x-plates, x-brackets or whatever you call that

edit: both Dell and Clevo use Hynix vRAM too +)

 

huh? so u got prefixed screwholes or what? how do u fixate the card onto the mobo?

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Yes the posts are built into the motherboard:



You know, like it makes sense to do

 

very handy indeed! please do so with all machines from now on!

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No messing around with tape or different x brackets. They just need to design the motherboard with enough support around the card.

 

I wanted to post the same but people got ahead already. However, MSI has done well with the card swapping and I got it quickly. EDIT: 7970M is as cool as GTX570M during idle and load and the power draw during idle is 35W and during load 145-150W but mainly what I just needed is that watching the Blu-Ray movies has been done well with the drivers of AMD, the support seems to be higher than Nvidia counterpart. So far I have owned only 2 AMD cards (the reason being that the drivers suck) and 8 Nvidia gpus but now the opinion changed. Tomorrow I'll test 3D movie through HDMI and if it's going to be okay then hands down on 7xxx AMD series cards. With the newest GeForce drivers I had lots of hassle until they stopped working at all. Anyway, respect to AMD and if they keep goign like that (even though AMD has bad situation with the financial department) then I'm looking forward to it with the price and perfomance A+

 

Just one question people
What's the difference between a Dell card and a Clevo one in terms of materials and overall quality?
Just curious

 

Not much difference - I have owned both (and still own a Clevo 7970M) and they're both great - I'd say though Dell 7970m look slightly better due to some very bad soldering on the Clevo gpus but in the end, you won't see any difference.

You'll also need to modify further the heatsink to fit the Clevo 7970m - some parts are higher than they should be, my modded heatsink didn't fit at first.

 

Yes, Clevo has some huge capacitors compared to Dell and MSI cards and time shows the quality, not the components look.

 

So what would happen if I just stuck this in my GT 60? After modding a heatsink for it of course.

 

It probably would not post/boot as 7970m is ot compatible with optimus and you cannot disable optimus in the bios.

 

youd have to follow the guide in my signature and flash the modded enduro-disabled vbios to the card, then it will work in ur GT60 altho it depends if u have a clevo or dell card, ud have to flash the respective modded vbios

 

I'm curious when you do what happens exactly, does it behave with enduro or is it switched off as that would mean the display routing is switched?

 

afaik the regular vbios just has a built-in handshake that looks for the presence of an iGPU. if thats not found, then the dGPU is not fully activated. the modded vbios just disables that check.

or was ur question concerned with enduro-enabled machines? what would happen if u flashed the modded vbios onto a clevo EM series machine for example? to be honest....no idea!

 

No I mean on the GT series, if you disable that handshake this is still a integrated graphics setup with the displays routed to the internal chip so I assume it is still enduro with the modified vbios?

 

oooh ok got ur point. so the gt60 IS a switchable graphics enabled laptop well in that case u wouldnt need the modified vbios. isnt optimus and enduro the same on the hardware level (aside from the gpu i mean). the rest is just software/drivers and gpu-based.

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There is some bios handshake stuff going on too (as seen by the HM series needing one without that) which is why I don't believe AMD cards work.

 

arent there any GT60 machines with amd cards around? or would they have a different kinda BIOS?

 

No, only the GX60 which is AMD only (tried a GTX680M in it and it would not even boot).

 

Hello Guys,

I'm a new member in these forums and I would like to ask your help with my graphic card upgrading project.

I currently own a MSI GT683DX639 notebook with the 570M graphic card and I was thinking of upgrading to ati 7970M.
If I understood correctly both DELL and CLEVO version of this card should work in the MS-16F2? I might be able to get myself CLEVO 7970M Graphic card with enduro disabled, would this work for me and for my system?

Would it work straight out of the box or should I prepare for some bios flashing?

The card I'm looking at would include the heatsink for this card too.
Any help in this matter is greatly appreciated, thank you.

With best regards
Petri

 

Yeah Dell card or Clevo card with the vbios ENduro off will both will work OTB for you.

You need the original MSI 7970m heatsink too.

 

just in case ur screen stays blank after installing ur 7970m but ure still able to hear windows booting up in the background, go ahead and consult the thread in my signature in order to be prepared for the vbios flashin

i myself ordered a gpu specifically for my clevo machine, which needs that modded vbios. unfortunately my seller apparently mixed things up and i ended up having to flash that modded vbios myself.

so just in case its not all that hard or difficult actually, so no worries

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