Advent 7555 GX - MSI GT725 again?

Word on the street says it's not worth upgrading your desktop GPU just for DX11.

Have you seen DX11 on call of papryat (whatever it's called) .. nothing major compared to 9 & 10 tbh.

 

I thought dx11 was only to make the shader pipelines more efficient?

 

Extra hardware, cannot forget that, things like tesselation we cannot do.

 

Tessellation, GPU task multithreading, additional shader effects, the list goes on. Dx11 is a lot of what DX10 should have been before it got gimped, it should take off a lot better than DX10 did (actually with games in development it already pretty much has).

 

Reminds me of Vista and Win7

 

You took it off my mouth or fingers

 

Can you post some screenshots of your Q92 in HWinfo32 (main screen) & Everest (overclock tab) ? Thanks in advanced

Edit : Psychonauts is only 1£ on steam.

 

You're tickling my ears or eyes. Oooh, beat that!

 

hey, just thought i would say i brought the advent 7555 gx on the 27th december from pc world and i paid £479, i couldnt believe how much i got it for, i did the free windows 7 upgrade aswel, the only probs i have with it is that i dont get why pc world are selling it with vista/win7 32-bit, when the laptop has 4gb mem :S and there is a lack of support from the tech guys, for e.g. no driver cds, no vista cd, and i didnt even get a driver cd when windows 7 came, and theres nothing on there website and ati.... this is the first time i have brought something with an ati card in, but what i dont get is why the drivers for the 4850 windows 7 are still beta :s i went to the msi website and downloaded the drivers from there as its the same laptop, other than that im very happy with it, it runs games like css/hl2, l4d2 and cod mw2 on full, and runs quite cool, normal temp wen listening to music and on msn is about 36c and iv had about 2 and a half hours with the battery

 

Congrats. You will find most of the drivers are the same as the GT725. As for the display drivers, you can download the latest drivers from game.amd.com, and mod them using mobility modder, provided by driverheaven.

 

I actually never had any real issues with Vista64. Nice and stable.

 

Really? It must just be the programs I use.

Some of the cad programs are already prone to unstableness and crashing, which wan't a real problem with XP, but it soon became frustrating with Vista.

 

Right some tests done in 3dmark 2005 first 2 for my ADVENT and the last one for MSI 2.5 c2duo. Well my score more than 3000 points less . maybe it's b-cause"Unfortunately most current programs, in particular games, only inadequately support quad-cores, so that this stays behind the higher-clocked dual-cores in terms of performance."

 

Ditto!

I have XP 32 which runs AutoCAD 3D much better than vista 64, and I hate to say it but a tiny bit quicker than w7 64! Although I do switch to w7 64 when I'm rendering as the extra memory does make a difference for complex models.

Luckily both the 7555gx and home-built desktop have quad-core, so CAD runs well in general.

NB Autocad 2009 is better than 2008 for quad core, although its prob possible to update a 'legitimate' copy of 2008 to get it using the quad...

 

Never tried autocad, but i would beleive that it runs better.

I'm also running with a daul core, so supporting quads are the least of my worries.

 

Hang on a minute jake,

A, this is 2010, get up to scratch, and get a comparison of 3dmark vantage and pitch that against a dual, quads these days are truly dominating the open market (except the new dual i series, wow are the powerful alright!).

3DMARK05 means nothing anymore bud, you have a very very powerful machine at your fingertips!

 

Thats what I thought when I read that post! Play any game that uses a lot of AI/physics that support quad and you realise just how much a more basic, yet higher clocked CPU can hold back a game.

And as for general windows use and multi-tasking.

Regardless of GPU or CPU multicore is the future. Every single chip manufacturer has openly stated that the future will see more cores, not more clock speed. So is 4 better than 2 right now? Yes. It's also more future proof as more and more apps want to use the extra cores.

Going back to topic - I really can't believe people are picking up these power laptops for £500. 6 months ago £1000 was entry level for even a basic gaming laptop.

 

I definitely agree that multicore (as in quad) CPUs are the way things are going, but I disagree on the subject of GPUs. I will always look out for a laptop with a solid single GPU rather than two mediocre GPUs.

Unless things change drastically, it is just too hard to keep temperatures down with that much going on inside, unless you make the laptop massive and heavier than your average desktop.

 

I'm not on about multi GPUs, ala 4870x2 etc. But Multicore GPU's. Nvidia and AMD have both admitted that its the likely future and also the best way to keep up with development of Intel 'Larrabee' x86 multicore CPU/GPU plans.

And like a multi-core CPU heat would be less, power would be less a lot of the time. GPU manufacturing is actually a long way behind CPU at the moment. But all the same benefits exist in multi core GPU when we do get there.

A 4 core x86 GPU could run in true parrelel to a 4 core x86 CPU. Tis the future I tell thee!!!

 

Haha ok I'll take your word for it. Can't wait for that. The future of technology sure is looking promising though.

It will indeed be interesting to see how powerful computers can become.

 

NOOOO The future is in Quantum Computing!
Haha

Are you meaning say multi gpus on 1 die?

 

i have had my 7555 for around a month, i keep getting alot of BSOD, i have upgraded the OS to win 7 32 bit, updated the video drivers from the 725 page at MSI and the audio drivers from the link in this thread, does anyone have any ideas ? im a bit peed off as this is a replacement for a faulty dell laptop........... oh and where can i disable the god awful touchpad ? i cant seem to write a sentence without it misplaceing the pointer, seemed a easy thing to do in XP (oh how i miss thee) ........

 

Fn + F3 to disable the touchpad. Do you OC the machine ? Anything related to memory ?

 

thanks for the touchpad tip not overclocked at all, everything at factory default settings.

 

No worries man what error msg do you get ?

 

at first i thought it was a memory problem, thats what the blue screen message seemed to be indicating (memory address errors etc...), and what win 7 recommended i run after one bsod so i ran the in built memory checker in win 7, that seemed to think everything was ok, i have plenty of minidump files, what program do i need to view these ? they dont like notepad. some days the system is crash free others it will go 3 or 4 times in an hour.

 

The built-in windows memory thingy suck , run this instead http://www.memtest.org/ .

And this is for the minidump http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315263

Does it happen when gaming or normal browsing ?]

The good news is you still got warranty , you can go back to currys and get it fixed

 

it can happen just a few seconds after booting without starting anything up, i will give that memtest a try, yep still in warranty thank god although im kindof dreading currys support, i only ever read bad things about currys and the way they deal with faulty goods........

 

They all suck when it comes to customer support unfortunately , even pcworld ..
Try loading the default BIOS settings and see if that helps.

 

ran memtest which unfortunately gave it a clean bill of health, it just did a system repair on bootup, a worrying development, trying the bios defaults tip, if it does one more BSOD i will commence battle with currys.

 

more bsods this morning, so i called currys "techguys" support, in order for them to even begin to get any interest in your problem you first have to roll back to the factory default vista, including a complete format/reinstall, what kindof support is that ? i had them clarify there position, should i get any problem in the future which needs support you have to do the same thing and lose everything, they couldnt car eless that i got windows 7 upgrade from them, as far as they are concerened its not supported on my system, steaming angry is where im at, why i bought from currys in the first place i dont know....................

 

Hey sod, unfortunately, thats most likely the whole of DSG for you, currys, pcworld and dixons, my system took years to come back to me, and when it did, it didn't even have matching ram which took the mic (it was slower, infact my machine is almost overclocking the ram to compensate a bit with the faster ram.) (Timings this is.)

There a polite bunch, but they are fairly useless, and they throw your machine around when it goes into repairs (So try not to break it lol.)

 

oh it gets worse, so i installed the machine back to factory fresh default, booted it up and it blue screened within a couple of minutes, called support, the guy has the bear faced cheek to tell me its still a software problem!! what you mean the factory installed software ? "yes" and all blue screen problems are caused by software problems, there is nothing they can do for me, the end............... so what exactly will happen with a hardware fault then ? ffs! about to explode i asked for a supervisor, he actualy spoke proper english, was nice as pie and they are picking it up next week to fix it, what is going on with there front line support ? im still steaming............... never ever again will i buy anything from the dsg group, i dont care how shiny and cheap it is.

 

I've been digging around to show you guys something , http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/262978/...-that-rifle-through-your-photos-and-passwords No one can be trusted.

At least there's something positive about wiping out 7 and shipped it to them with vista on , no sensitive data will be exposed.

Thank god MSI support ain't like that.

 

Right i'm sorry to hear this buddy, but it seems we suffered from the same issue, so i'll try and help you pin the problem down, leave DSG for today, i've got the whole night free haha.

Right, whats the BSOD error you seem to be having, does it happen when you begin to boot up? and also can you get me the code?

 

thats a kind offer, but from my own testing im fairly sure its a dry solder on the motherboard somewhere, it only does it when booted from cold (left shutdown for a good 2 or 3 hours), once its up and running and you have gotten over the first 3 or 4 bsods (the first happens within a minute or two) it runs ok all day, its the only explanation that makes sense as i already ruled out a memory fault with memtest. The bsod after the clean install was i think IRQ_LESS_EQUAL_THAN or something similar, its seems to throw a different one everytime it does it.

 

Agreed, could also possible be the GPU, but thats exactly what happened to my machine, also i had been doing something rather bad on consumer hardware (yes overclocking) I also believed it was ESD too but who knows.

My machine came back half battered with light bleed lol, i just couldn't be bothered to send it back off, seems it was working ok.

 

Anyone know how to solve wifi problems on this?
The pages stop loading on the browser now and again, it just seems to want to pause all the time! Wifi is barely usable because page cannot be displayed etc.
Its behaving the same in win 7 and vista. Other computers with intel 5100 works with the router fine and the advent connects by lan fine too.

Has the wifi card had packed in? Any way for me to confirm this? Lol this is such a pain, broken internet makes me real angry with this comp lol.

 

Have you tried updating the driver to the latest ?
http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=driverfile&dno=10441&i=0

 

Hello all,
I was lucky enough to get a GX7555, without really knowing what fast machine I'd bought. My main (work) laptop died and I went into PCWorld in a panic - came out with a £700 clearance bargain ;-)
I've installed Win server 2008 R2 in it since and I'm running Virtual Machines which hog RAM, so having read a couple of earlier posts suggesting that 8GB should be OK, I have got hold of some from Crucial to try.

Oh dear, the machine turns on but does nothing - not even a POST screen. I've checked by booting up with all the combinations of RAM I now have (2 * 2GB sticks, 2 * 4GB sticks). As soon as RAM goes over 4GB, the machine won't boot. Is there anything I can do, or is this a physical limitation I can't get around.

Thanks

 

Scrap Win server and try 7 64bit perhaps?

With 8gb is it posting?

Also try install win server with different achi/acpi (forget which one) but its in the bios somewhere.

 

Interesting problems regarding the ram, Im curious to see if it's a problem with the bios itself, as with what's been posted before this laptop is sort of streamlined compared to thr full fledged 725s, since the bios is custom also I wonder if there has been something changed in there also, because the machine itself has physical support for 8gb, it'd been proved with Dell modules however idk if any 8gb modules will do the trick. This laptop had known compatibility issues with certain brands of ram. I.e. Ocz which refuse to work, however other brands such as g.skill which work VERY well and allow for gracious oc headroom while maintaining tight timings. 5.5.5.15.

I haven't gone through crucial for a while simply because they are overpriced. I'd say return em if you can and try o get ahold of some gskill or Dell ram.

As for the individual having bsod errors from the getgo, try reseating everything you can, it won't void your warranty since there's no seal, or try booting minus the wifi card and a ram chip, if that dordrecht work try the other chip.

 

It doesn't post, just a black screen of nothingness, not even a flashing cursor.
My feeling is that it is a BIOS thing - the 4GB modules work individually, in both slots 1 & 2. It's only when I go over 4GB that problems start.
Based on Catacylsm's comment, I try with AHCI mode disabled from BIOS and suddenly everything works! Then I re-enable AHCI, and it's still working?!?
So, did the mode change do something, or am I just rubbish at installing SO-DIMMS?
Anyway, most positive thing is that 7555GX's will take 8GB. Thanks for your help, even if it was only to get me to re-try the memory modules. I do think the AHCI thing may have done somethign though...

 

Did you reset the BIOS at all/load defaults? Sometimes from experience, if the DIMMs have slightly different timings, its best to reload defaults when you install a new DIMM, as then the board can recalculate optimal/default RAM timings etc.

Its why when I've done techy jobs for cash in the past; I always tend to install the weaker RAM first if there's a discrepency, because then the board generally bases it's presets around the weaker sticks requirements and capabilities.

 

Thats a good point that, try a full bios reset,

Something or someone seems to have increased my CAS on my RAM >_> Sneaky sneaky!

 

That someone IS you.

 

Alex, the only change I made was to disable ahci in the bios. No resets or defaults touched on the bios front. ahci is back on now & machine still works fine. I haven't been scientific about which ram to put in which slot, so it may be that this time round the slower chip went into slot 1 or something, or that turning off ahci causes a bios reset in the background. This kind of stuff is out of my league. In my world oc means old codger ;-)

 

Turns out, its either The machine compensating for the slowness in speed, or PCWorld have flashed whatever it is that holds ram timings.

It definately wasn't me .

 

Hey,

I know this may be a pretty bias place to ask - but thats ok I was just wondering how reliable the 7555 has proved to be for everyone? I'm currently looking to replace an MSI laptop I had that was nothing but trouble and this laptop has great specs for the price, but is there a reason?

Thanks~

 

Just out of curiosity, what was the laptop you had nothing with trouble with?

I was sceptical before buying the GT725 too, purely because of the price and performance comparison.

A few have posted here and said they have had nothing but trouble with recent laptops, but I have had none whatsoever with mine. Cataclysm has dropped his a few times, and it has survived fine, I spilt coffee on the palmrest and its all fine. The hardware is bulletproof.

I would consider MSI now a pretty solid investment.