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    COOL! New MSI models available for pre-order!

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Mar 1, 2014.

  1. Kevin

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    I don't think the GS60 will handle the cooling of an 870M well. The 765M has a listed TDPs of 75W, and the GS70 did a horrible job with cooling that card. There's no way a modestly chopped down 680M is any easier to tame.
     
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    I dont need a 870m, 860m is more than enough for me, so i hope there is an option to choose between 860m/870m.
     
    pca9, Mar 10, 2014
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    Appernaly no 870 in the GS60...

    MSI shows new gaming products at CeBIT

    ....but also not any mentioning of different between PRO and none PRO!? or 3K!

    So still a maybe... maybe? Thoughts?
     
    anmihe, Mar 10, 2014
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    Look what I found ;)
    [​IMG]
     
    Cheekytony, Mar 10, 2014
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    F**k yeah! :cool:
     
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  7. anmihe

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    Question...

    ...so if going with the 870M how much you guys think the 3K vs Full HD would impact battery life and performance?
     
    anmihe, Mar 10, 2014
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    The only thing I'm worried about with the GS60 is the price so far.
     
    Shadow Cloud, Mar 10, 2014
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  9. IKAS V

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    Is the 870M maxwell? Or just a rebranded 770M Kepler with higher clocks?
     
    IKAS V, Mar 10, 2014
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  10. Cloudfire

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    No chance in hell you can put in a 870M or a 880M inside a thin 15" like GS series. We are talking 90W-120W here. You can also notice that it have a 150W PSU. You wouldnt have the energy left to even drive the display.

    That is one factor. Another is that it would make GT60 redundant because it offer actually offer 870M/880M and is not as stylish.

    So unless MSI want to start fires around the world and kill their GT series, that chart have a horrible typo. What it should have listed is GTX 850M/860M which is the correct ones
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 10, 2014
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  11. inc77

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    This is what I would like to know as well. Its all so confusing... I hope everything gets cleared up after the Nvidia embargo lifts (March 12 I think?).
     
    inc77, Mar 10, 2014
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  12. gust0007750

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    Leaks showed the 870 is a GK104(680) with less ROPS,Bandwidth (only 192), its a Kepler, and as cloudfire said it is going to be hard to put it in a GS60, as its an extremely overclocked and hot card...You are better off with an 860 anyway, new architecture new laptop and ssd, I want the gs60 but now not april
     
    gust0007750, Mar 10, 2014
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    lol me too... I wish the original ETA of shipping March 12/13 stayed lol
     
    inc77, Mar 10, 2014
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  14. Cloudfire

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    You are not getting any 870M/880M with the GS series. See previous page
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 10, 2014
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    I'm going to wait for reviews and more information, but putting an 870M in that thing if it's Kepler sounds like a poor idea.

    I guess all will be revealed officially this week.
     
    hfm, Mar 10, 2014
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    What's the likelihood that the 870m will actually be a Maxwell chip soldered directly onto the board?
    It sucks that only the 3k screen is ips. :/ how good is the FHD screen that comes with it though, I wonder.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
     
    Oukami, Mar 10, 2014
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  18. pca9

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    Will the gs70 have 3k screen? If so wont it be expensive? My budget is around 2000 dollars. (i live in Norway)
     
    pca9, Mar 10, 2014
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    Pretty sure thats the Razer PRO, ie 17.3" and not 14".
    It is a Kepler. A GTX 680M with less memory bandwidth.

    $1699 for the model with 1080p display. Probably another $200 for the 3K display or something.
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 10, 2014
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  20. pca9

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    If it cost 1900 dollars with 3k screen, 860m, 256gb m.sata and a 1tb hdd for the gs70, in Norway i will buy it right away, cant wait!
     
    pca9, Mar 10, 2014
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  21. Cloudfire

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    Ooooops my bad. You said GS70 and not GS60 :/

    GS70 won`t come with 3K display. MSI said they would add 3K displays in the 17.3" notebooks when they are available in the market. I dont think any of the display makers have made any 3K 17.3" yet unfortunately.
    Only GS60 will have 3K.

    Also I got the $1699 from GentechPC (US). Norway like the rest of the europe is expensive as hell compared :p
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 10, 2014
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    Yeah no higher res 17.3" panels are around yet.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Mar 10, 2014
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    Saiyan96, Mar 10, 2014
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    I dont really need a 3k screen, also it wont be so expensive here in Norway for me, because a company called "multicom" are doing a rebrand of the new model and sell without windows 8 i think and then it cost around 2000 dollars :D
     
    pca9, Mar 10, 2014
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  25. Oukami

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    the steel series engine looks pretty useful.

    i wonder if the gs60 will have this aswell.
     
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    I hope this come with gs stealth :|
     
    pca9, Mar 10, 2014
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  27. inc77

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    Oh definitely going 3K screen here if it gets offered (will need to update my pre-order in Gentech). Though I doubt i'll be gaming at that kind of resolution.
     
    inc77, Mar 10, 2014
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  28. pca9

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    I think if you game in 3k you will either get awful fps or you are going to play on ultra low settings or you could not even run the game.
     
    pca9, Mar 10, 2014
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    From my pov the 8xxm models looks like a hotter rebrand, that might not benefit that much in gaming. Looking at the multicom.no prices i'm thinking about buying their gs70 rebrand, any advice on this?
     
    Chaca32, Mar 10, 2014
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  30. pca9

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    From Norway? All i can say that it is just the same, beside the keyboard; i think it is only blue. Also if you order from multicom, dont forget to order windows with it, it dont come with it. Here is a review of the one on multicom http://www.dinside.no/924380/multicom-arya-ms-1771
     
    pca9, Mar 10, 2014
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    Well i live in Denmark and the norwegian model is 2k dkk cheaper than its danish counterpart. I will only consider this if the 860m/870m proves to be running super hot, making the gs60/gs stealth run hot and loud.
     
    Chaca32, Mar 10, 2014
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    The GS60 looks extremely promising. I wish MSI would remove the red gaming logo from the cover. I don't want to advertise a gaming machine during work meetings. Guess I could cover the logo with a sticker, but it would clash with the nice brushed finish of the cover.
     
    javatango, Mar 10, 2014
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  33. gust0007750

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    Lol Nvidia how hilarious makes microwave ovens like GTX 880,870 then introduces Battery Cool boost LOL! its like buying a Ferrari and putting a motorbike's engine it, gets 2014's contradiction award of the year...
     
    gust0007750, Mar 10, 2014
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  34. GreaseMonkey90

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    Not sure if you are trying to be a tool or a troll. But please keep fanboism out.
     
    GreaseMonkey90, Mar 10, 2014
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  35. gust0007750

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    actually I am more towards the nvidia side, but it seems odd to put such power of 880 and then stirp it all away by lengthening battery life and besides people have been trying to remove optimus now they have this battery cool boost to deal with,and I frankly think nvidia has earned that criticism after re-branding cards for the 3rd time, so did amd with the 7970 so there is no fan boysim here or there
    and since you already have the optimum purchase (780) would probably not relate to the frustration but I like many have been waiting to buy since the 680 and me and everyone who waited have been let down...
     
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  36. Cloudfire

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    Battery boost only apply when you know, you use the battery.... Not much use in gaming on battery since it will downclock the GPU automatically anyway to preserve power even if you are not using Optimus. A battery can`t power a gaming system on full speed.
     
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  37. gust0007750

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    Cloudfire, did you find any Lenovo,Gigabyte SSD information, are they going to come with any SSDs? and do you know whether Alienware14 will get 860 or not?
     
    gust0007750, Mar 10, 2014
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    I have no idea about the Lenovo or Gigabyte laptops. Try googling Lenovo Y50 and find out.
    Only Alienware 17 and 18 got listed with GTX 860M but that might change to AW14 too later
    Dell Updates Alienware 17, 18 Gaming Laptops with Nvidia GeForce GTX 880M / 860M, AMD Radeon R9 M290X | Laptoping | Windows Laptop & Tablet PC Reviews and News
     
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  39. gust0007750

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    Cloudfire, What is the difference between GT60 dominator with 870 and old GT60 with GTX 680 in chasis,screen,external look? do both use cheimei matte?
     
    gust0007750, Mar 10, 2014
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  40. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Yes, unfortunately the 870M/880M are still Kepler this go-round (see my post HERE), and the notebook manufacturers like MSI, have to utilize the tech available to them at the time. Far be it for us, to second guess the wisdom in continuing Kepler. The manufacturer's primary goal primary is 'profits', their marketing is task to 'sell, sell, sell', and their heads, production, and bean-counters, have obviously assessed the risk. Sometimes they win in these decisions, sometime they lose, but overall, it's the marketplace that determines the measure of their success. Personally, I have no interest this new round of 8xx Keplers, Soon however, just on the horizon, the top mobile Maxwell GPU's will be available, and so-equipped MSI gaming flagships will be very appealing, indeed. Furthermore, MSI has been listening, and though it takes time for implementation, I anticipate some improvements we've requested. Stay tuned!

    :)
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Mar 10, 2014
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    Which improvements do you think they will implement? I'm wondering so I can know what to look forward to, and if I should go for the gs60 now or wait a while more.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
     
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    The revised Kepler is only slightly better so it is not worth the upgrade for existing owners, but if you are few years behind in technology with your notebook then it's okay since you will catch up like the rest.
     
    Kevin@GenTechPC, Mar 10, 2014
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    Hopefully MSI was able to extend the battery life in the new GE60. Battery life is pretty much the only thing holding me back from getting the current GE60.
     
    GrowingMyCorn, Mar 11, 2014
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    they can't use the larger battery due to the limitation of the chassis.
     
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  45. Kevin

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    I wonder if this software will work with the current MSI notebooks.
     
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    When do we find out what graphics cards are in what models? I thought the NDA was lifted today?
     
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    just need a gp60 with backlight and less flex and i buy one.... Msi stop doing plastic crap.. Even cheap hp is build of plastic but with a cheap metal plate in the frame that make it a lot stronger
     
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    From what I've read, it's supposed to be lifted on the 12th which is tomorrow

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
     
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    I'm hoping maybe in the next generation (Broadwell) we will see 3K or even 4K. If not MSI someone else (with other good specs of course)
     
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