GT72/GT72S and GT80/GT80S Owners GPU Upgrade Discussion

I was considering selling it at one point due to the possibility of having the chance of owning a desktop but I still have the laptop, hence my involvement. And yes my job requires I also have a P750DM.


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Oops my bad.

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BAZINGA!

 

you might wanna check the post above budz


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No need, not contributing.

 

So now you're stuck with two unupgradable laptops? Luckily MSI will let you trade-in this one. Hopefully at a reasonable price.

 

I actually sent my P750DM in for an upgrade with my reseller, there was an issue with the screen in its early days so I paid the difference to the DM2 and I'm getting that.


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Bazinga is always contributing.

 

I'll post this again so just like if you agree. I'm taking a poll on my comment for future reference when I contact the media for accuracy please


Are you guys not listening upgrading the GT80 to 10xx GPU will require a new motherboard! Reverse engineering WILL NOT WORK l was in the semiconductor manufacturing industry for 8 years won't work..there WILL be issues. getting and putting in a 10xx GPU will have us back here in 6 months complaining it doesn't work. Replace the laptop at no cost laptop does not perform as advertised or refund.

 

I think everyone got that before you mentioned it. Trade in, upgrade will be a replacement of the notebook situation.

 

Does not perform as advertised? Excuse me but did you have something wrong with your CPU or GPU's? Or do you mean the part where you are demanding a method of upgrade which was used at one point but likely not this time?


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OK, I think those asking for free upgraded laptops are going to keep saying it until MSI make the offer public and then they will skulk off, tail between legs (may to go sue them with their 'lawyers').

Nothing will be free. MSI UK have already stated that. MSI US and MSI UK had the same campaign so the offer will be the same.

nb. free msi dragon toy is always a possibility

 

They are sending me a backpack for free... but only cause newegg lost mine and cant find a spare laying around

 

Really, you don't realise the cost is incorporated into MSI's notebooks, shame

 

@OnlySLI just for posterity sake----- Marios50 and myself are 2 different people.


@Everyone else- here are a few ideas of how you could contribute :

1) still not clear where the "2 generations of upgrades were promised" idea came from- if you can find some written evidence please add link to this thread, this can help our cause.

2) if you can find written evidence promising mxm upgrade on models other than gt72/gt80 please add link, this can help the cause. (gt60 and gt70 with 970m are technically GT lineup models.. but its not clear if those qualify...i believe those laptops do have an 970m series mxm board inside too..correct me if i am wrong)

3) if you know someone who has a gt72/gt80, let them know of this thread and tell them to fill out the form before oct 31.

 

Source.

Only GT72, GT72S, GT80, and the GT80S were promoted as MXM upgradeable.

 

Thanks @MiSJAH, source helps, but its not msi saying it... its only a journalist/entertainer speculating about it :
"So the GT80 ships with support for GTX 980M and should be able to run at some future point the “GTX A80M” and “GTX B80M” (whatever they end up being called)"

so pretty shaky for a "promise/commitment"

 

Agreed but I'm guessing it's from an MSI press release, probably an email. One of these sites will still have the email. Feel free to email them and ask.

And MSI accept that the GTX A80M 'should' run in the GT72/GT80 that's why we have the trade in, upgrade path.

 

Part of the laptops ability to perform as expected is ability to upgrad that part is missing as new parts become available what if MSI said you can upgrade to 64gig of ram then you open it up and there is only 2 bays and the cards are soldered in. What do you do? You get your Fracking money back!!!!

 

yeah one upgrade of some kind is in the bag, but if two were promised it could change the game at this point..if we don't have any solid evidence of commitment for 2 upgrades, we will pretty much have to take "the deal" we are going to be offered with little room for debate. if we had real evidence of commitment for 2 upgrades, we would have some leverage to push back on the upcoming deal and ask for something else...

 

Anyone else doing digging for info, MSI has limited most of it's archived press releases (or they're having site wide issues), you can try -

https://archive.org/web/web.php

 

I'm sorry but yout logic is flawed. You were never promised that you will be able to upgrade "that part".

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I have the advertisement saved on my laptop it does say that.

Man you getting kickbacks from MSI to say this stuff?

 

I just don't expect free stuff, but then again its your right to if you want.

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So instead of trading it in like the rest of us, you technically got a free upgrade because you got your money back and you were able to get a Pascal laptop instead. Lucky you.

 

He probably gets free Laptops from MSI to put on a dragon blindfold and spout off anything they want him to say.

But honestly, at this point my product is not working as advertised. It is physically impossible to but in a pascal drop in kit even though they advertised that and that was the only reason I bought it.

This is how the trade in should work, they send me GT83VR hold the amount on a card until I send the Gt80s I have back.

Or I would also accept a full retail value refund of $4999 so I could stop worrying about this MSI crap and take me money to a company that

The people who want to drop five grand on upgrades and blindly feed MSI you are welcome to do so, however the majority of customers share my opinion and a limited amount share yours.

 

I see that you pre ordered the GT83. When are you getting it? What are you going to do with your gt72 now that you don't need it?

 

Thanks for helping me call him out on it

 

Let me clear something up, the company would refund me because the product was indeed not functioning as described. I merely asked to PAY to upgrade to something newer. Emphasis on pay.

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https://www.msi.com/news/notebook

Just read about 30 reviews linked from the MSI site above, the majority state upgradeable MXM graphics but not how many generations. Anyone else want to have a look? Non English reviews on there too.

 

Yeah. Dill, you obviously have enough funds to buy the GT83VR and keep up to date with the best however that's you and keep in mind many of us do not have the luxury of doing so.

The only reason you are commenting trying to force us to pay massive fees is because you just paid MSI five grand to get the GT83.

Well listen here Dill, we have Gt80 that are not as advertised. We want a free upgrade because, first they are not as advertised, and second we have to give up our laptops for the MSI trade in carnival and then they only tell us our laptops are worth two grand and owe them three grand to get the GT83

Our laptops should have been upgrade able out of the box, they are not, the product is defective, we want our as advertised two generations of drop in upgrades.

Dill stop commenting entirely you have zero authority to say the things you are saying in this thread.

 

Please stop incorrectly using the word 'defective'. It is fit for purpose, so it is not defective.

It is not upgradable.

Got it?

Also, please don't tell people not to comment, this is an open forum.

 

When I said free, I meant that you got the full credit for your laptop without losing any money, therefore giving you the choice to buy what you wanted instead (on in your case, adding money to a better model). Some of us who just bought it can't return it (like me) which is why I said lucky you.

 

in my case mine did come slightly defective... the blueray player vibrates like crazy when reading (usually CD's) -- sounds like a lawnmower...

 

Hello,

You Sir are wrong.

Is it fit for its purpose? No.

Is it upgrade able? No.

Is it possible to put in two generations of GPU? Well it can't even physically put a pascal gpu on it.

The whole GT80 line up is defective as they advertised it drop in upgrade able for the next two generations.

Also Dill gaff acts like he has authority to comment on the Gt80s when he does not eve have one...

 

I talked with xotic pc and posted what they had to say here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...or-the-msi-rep-2.795226/page-12#post-10333233

 

Fit for purpose, have you been unable to use the laptop for it designed purpose?

It's a gaming laptop, have you been able to game? If yes, then it's fit for purpose.

I agree with it is 'not' upgradable, but upgrading is not a purpose of the laptop.

Are we clear?

 

According to google:

https://www.google.com/search?clien...C4vHOAhVJ9WMKHXbxBwUQvwUIFygA&biw=414&bih=628


Therefore, this product would qualify as defective. So it's correct.

 

Gotta laugh, defective and fit for purpose. I'm out on this aspect of this topic.

 

Stop arguing about semantics. The laptop is not defective. The limitation became after the fact, not from origin. And particularly so due to new non existing tech at the time.

Actually you can call it what you want, it's alright anyways. As long as you realize that your opinion is not the same as others, and people disagreeing with you are not automatically MSI secret ninjas that are out there to get you.

As for the two generation upgrades, when I spoke with MSI a while ago I only got something along the lines of "should be upgradable two generations from when you got it" which is why I always had that number in my head.

That does not change the fact that it may simply not be possible to have an upgrade to my existing machine, so I am waiting on MSI to see what is being offered.

 

Ryzeki I really don't know where you're getting all this. I figured as an admin you'd figure out who was trolling who. If you want me to stop posting then I will.

 

Im gonna be ending the whole "free" debate from my side since some here feel very strongly about it. All im gonna say is I'm happy MSI is working on their promise and I'll be back with my upgraded machine, viewing this thread and simply watch all the people asking for a handout realise it aint gonna happen.

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@OnlySLI - my order for gt83 has been put on hold, pending clarification of spec (unlocked cpu, warranty etc) and outcome of this "upgrade porgram". i am not committed to anything particular with my gt72. i may trade it in, i may keep it or i may sell it depending on what is more advantageous to me. my gt72 is a unique setup with 3 2.5" drives..so it maybe worth while to sell it rather than trade it in.
yeah i can afford a 5k laptop every few years. i work for my money and can choose, what i want to spend that money on.

you bought a 5k laptop 90 days ago. so you can obviously afford 5k as well.. you are past the return window...so i understand why you are pist. you bought a gaming product with a short life span, way too late in the product cycle and this is your chance to get out of your mistake, so you will spam and troll as much as you can, because spending time spamming this forum with the same message again and again is cheaper than paying for an upgrade... ... you stand to loose alot of value so i doubt you will stop your spam-trolling anytime soon.

You are not the only person in this situation- there are other users like yourself who bought a machine in the last 6 months, who may end up being forced to upgrade sooner than then would like. this is unfortunate. spamming the forum wont change this. . this is why i suggested alternatives to an immediate trade-in, but the idea was not popular, so at this point in time, i think everyone is just gona have to wait for the offer from msi, and deal with what we get...my only hope is msi is reading this forum and will provide Options within the trade-in program, so its not a "1 offer, here it is, take it or leave it".

as far as being a savvy pc component buyer, here is some FREE advice- in the future, buy the new video card within 90 days of release, and not 12 months later and you wont feel how you feel right now.

 

That's pretty much what I told him.

I bought my GT72S for about 3500$ in February knowing very well what was coming.

Losing 5k is not easy at such a fast rate but doesn't mean you're entitled to a handout.

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Best bet is to sell now, take a 1000-1500 dollar hit, and buy from another company. This is IF the trade in cost more than that. A 4600 dollar titan with 980 sli could probably sell for around 3000.

 

Truthfully... yeah you are right. I want to see what MSI will offer though, I have high hopes that they will honor a full retail value refund and or GT83VR.

Ugh, I wish I took my 4999 and spent it on another laptop in all honesty...

 

same here, trust me. Learn from mistakes. This is a 5000 dollar hit but good lesson too. Never buy expecting more than what you get on the system presently, even if the company says so. I for one, will never buy a laptop based off MXM; Im going for the bad*** BGA/soldered GPU notebooks that look awesome and perform almost identical lol. Cough, X21..cough new alienware, cough Aorus x7....

 

I can understand how you feel but I don't think MSI would do that, since they are offering trade-in to compensate for inability to upgrade to Pascal. You are going to pay extra no matter what, just hope what you are paying is reasonable based on how much you would ended up paying for 1080s and selling off 980s.

 

imho its not that you wish you spent it on another laptop its that you wish you timed your purchase differently...its the same situation every year...when the new Acer predator or whatever comes out in q1 2017 with kaby lake..you will be alle xcited and will preorder it for delivery in q1 2017....when its delivered sometime in q1 2017 with that gtx 1080 or sli or whatver you will be in the exact same situation next year- the geforce 1080ti will come out in March, with mobile gtx 1080ti in august and the acer will loose 50% of its value in 6 months, just like the gt80 lost 50% value in the last 6 months...this is how the laptop game is rigged since ati is no longer competitive....you gota buy the new card, right when the new vid card comes out and you gota make sure the performance of that card is enough for your needs for about 2 years without needing any upgrades.

so for this cycle gtx1080 is good fit for 1920*1080 120hz or 60 hz on very high or ultra game settings. you can stretch that to 2560*1440 60 hz high or maybe stretch for very high settings ..that should work well to play games until sometime in 2018. if you want to try for 4k@60hz or 3440*1440 60hz, 60+ fps on high or very high you need 1080 sli ..and that should barely last until 2018..imho 4k on High or very high is a stretch for next 2 years sli or no sli (unless you plan on playing only older games)..imho most likely by 2018 you will have to drop to medium in newer games on 1080 or 1080 sli...imho we are maybe 1-2 years away from cards really ready for 4k on very high or ultra that will last a couple years after purchase.

for cost @MiSJAH is pretty much spot on - this generation mobile cards are same silicon as desktop, they just take the best yielding chips that can run at lowest voltage, and use them in mobile cards. so we are effectively getting the best silicon from the factory and are gona be paying top dollar for it...so if the high end gtx 1080 for desktops cost 800 bux (the factory overclocked ones like the strix OC) 1350 for a mobile is not a surprise considering custom cooling solution on top of premium silicon..its essentially higher quality silicon than the strix or anything else on the desktop...

i am not saying all this to be an a**hole, @OnlySLI i am just trying to help you not get into this situation again in the future by buying an acer/aorus/asus/msi/brandx too late in the product cycle...they are all bad value when you buy them too late after release..... i have also made as similar mistake, its just i made my version of that mistake about 6 years ago on a previous version laptop, so i am not any smarter than you, i just went thru the experience many times already....also you can always consider an upgrade able desktop for most gaming, and just buy a cheaper laptop with a 1060 to handle 1920 rez gaming on the go

i'll keep my fingers crossed for now.

 

Okay, I'll break it all the way down.

The implication I was making was that MSI won't go fully public, with the trade in program, until November the 1st, as that is one day after their self imposed deadline to register for said program. Waiting until Nov 1 before making it widely known, and sticking to the deadline, would leave the majority of GT72/GT80 on the outside looking in, which gives MSI a smaller hit to take.

I'm implying that they want as few people as possible to know about it, so they aren't going to broadcast the sign-up like the bat signal, until the period has ended.