GT72/GT72S and GT80/GT80S Owners GPU Upgrade Discussion

MiSJAH I tossed some info on your reddit as well. including linustechtips ces review. I suck with formatting though, so please bear with me.

 

They hired my ex wife to work for them? You can keep her over the little pond. I dont need her close enough to call me.

 

And Im guessing that my resume I sent in to work in tech support will be trashed now. though it would mean a move across the country from here to City of Industry, California.
Oh, found linustechtips CES and neweggTVs reviews of them on youtube, both talk about upgradeability and the haptic feedback. Newegg refused a full refund on mine when I wanted to send it back stating it was not defective, so I kept it. wishing I would have sent it back and upgraded my desktop now...

 

Ok, this is what I think the pricing should be:



All other components to match existing notebook, RAM, SSD/s, unlocked CPU, etc...

This considered that we keep our existing card/s, and purely should be paying for the upgraded card/s. From what I can see the Tobii is not available on the GT73VR so I reduced the price by $100 because the GT72VR has less features than the existing Tobii model.

If you have received the email from MSI with the pricing feel free to send this version back to them stating that this is what you are willing to pay, whilst keeping your card/s but submitting the rest of the notebook. Let them provide reduced pricing if they would like to purchase your existing card/s.

These prices for the GPU's were provided by MSI USA. These are the cost we would have incurred if my had stuck with their advertised promise.

 

quick glance at amazon shows that i can get a single 970m gtx for about 600 new. so my sli setup should be worth roughly 1100-1200 for both cards. so taking that into account even 1400 is worth almost what i paid for my laptop, Im pretty sure they will not go for the prices you quoted but here is trying.

 

First eBay search result shows 970m 6gb MXM $459 brand new..

 

Ebay.co.uk shows MSI cards at:



So ~$600 US.

 

I couldn't talk to anyone on the phone... they left 3 hours early on friday....

 

Lol those cards are over priced. First result on my eBay search was $459.00 brand new.

To put into perspective I paid $450 2 years ago for a brand new MXM 970m 6gb card. 2 years ago..

With the release of the much more powerful 10 series a used 970m is worth no where near his quoted price.

http://rjtech.com/shop/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30307
$460 US Brand new out the door.

 

Except old MXM cards appreciate. Those cards are direct from Eurocom. So let's look at rjtech, they tend to be the cheapest? But we can't, they do not stock MSI MXM cards.

 

They don't. Prices get inflated as availability drops bit that doesn't mean people are falling over themselves to pay those inflated prices. How many 200-300% inflated old MXM cards have you bought?

Those Clevo cards work perfectly in MSI systems and can be cross flashed with MSI vbios.

 

well, I did say it was a quick search.

I sent MSI a message and asked them about the difference in values.

lawyers/barristers/attorneys are not allowed in small claims courts, only personal representatives of the company. so, a depot manager, assistant manager from california, manager or tech support person who works for the company itself.

 

To a certain extent I agree with you. I live in the UK, MXM GPU's are rare to purchase here, 980m's finish on ebay.co.uk at over £600 (~$730) if 970m are equally as rare they could fetch a similar price.

And yes, we may know that clevo cards worked in MSI chassis but not everyone does, or some people may just want a direct like for like card.

 

Honestly I would have purchased that MXM 1070 with green wire mod and gave it a go if I wasn't in your position. If it turns out it works with a heatsink mod you would have a major case against MSI. Lawyers were be more willing to take the case as well.

I realize many of you want an "official" upgrade that you can purchase. The 1070 would have been a pricey upgrade anyways as the MXM card is easily the most expensive part of any gaming laptop and the 10 series is very expensive in general. Look at the price of the desktop cards for comparison.

You said you want the ability to buy that upgrade. Why not simply give it a go if you've got the cash for that upgrade ready to burn? It could help you out and give you that upgrade you desire. If it doesn't work just sell the card.

Makes me wish I had a GT72 just to tinker and put my 1070 in it.

 

it was later noted in reviews that the haptics was taken out and it wasn't listed under specs when u bought it so i totally support newegg refusing a refund based on that lol....

I on the other hand was an idiot and waited 6+ weeks for them to ship a haptics device to XoticPC just to learn it didn't have a port in the GT80S.... ... Although I have heard some reports of some revisions having it though....

 

just buy a desktop card take it apart and shove it in the laptop lol
maybe hotwire the usb type c adapter?

 

The GT73VR is supposed have a mechanical keyboard as you describe

The product page doesn't say anything about it, but it was mentioned multiple times in reviews and previews of the GT73VR.

Anyone used one yet, what's it like?

 

it will be nice if msi will have GTX 980 upgrade kit instead only 980m.lol

 

GT73VR has got the same steelseries keyboard as GT72 and GT72S.

 

That's what the GT73VR product page made it sound like... too bad, the prospect of a low profile mechanical keyboard in the GT73VR was of particular interest...

 

Still a beast of a laptop, though.

Sent from my LG-H950

 

Does anyone know the specs of a 980GTX 8Mb card for a GT72S 6QF(DominatorProGDragon) ?
It seems there is two types available on ebay a 150W version and a 200W version.

Its just that I have found a 1070 card online and its specs say it runs as 150W, its about £800.
Would this be worth buying and seeing if it fits ?

Looking at the pictures, I think it looks like the same size and shape as a 980gtx 8Mb.
So anyone want to buy and see if it fits a GT72S that had a desktop 980 ?

NVIDIA GTX 1070 / N17E-G2; 8GB DDR5; MXM 3.0 Module;150W >> For Clevo P870DM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-GTX-...f965e22&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=131714579785

 

Just to add here is some pics I found, its the 1070 from a Clevo P870DM and a 980GTX from a GT72S.
It seems that the 980 has an extra power connector, but I don`t think its used. It looks like the new mxm is a bit smalle(missing the powere connector), but all the screw holes and chip places are the same.

 

Next gen gpu will be out before we get our upgrades... Time = money... In my eyes this upgrade is valued less with each passing day

 

Depending on how things play out, the next gen upgrade for laptops will go back to a more reasonable 30%ish improvement over 1080. Unless they go down a fab process along with a new arch.

 

So how many people have actually received a reply this week? Still nothing here.

 

Nothing yet but I'm willing to see how things stand at the start of next week. Nothing in a large company goes quickly unfortunately.

 

I thought there was only 1 gen of pascal and after that, volta

 

That's like it always is, but a change in architecture (volta) does not mean there will be a fabrication process reduction (nanometers).

Kepler to Maxwell was architecture change with same 28nm

Maxwell to Pascal was both a new architecture change as well as new fabrication process 16m.

Volta should be only arch, not a fab process.

Each fab or arch change brings improvements.

 

Got my "Please continue to be patient and allow us some time to get to everyone" email on October 20th...

 

Sorry but the 8Mb in every message is just killing me^^ We are talking about Vram isn't it ? so it's 8 Gb (we are not using voodoo 3D anymore )
You have to check exact dimension and connector as well as heat pipes and MXM card form factor... I wouldn't waste my time on this "mod" and I want a clear answer and reasonable compensation from MSI.

 

volta on their chart is double Pascal's performance looks like a die shrink to me... read somewhere amd is jumping to 10 nm

 

Anyone heard from MSI UK recently? They've stopped replying to my emails for some reason.

 

It has been weeks since I have heard from them.

Sent from my LG-H950

 

Yeah I just realised that this morning, 8mb is really low.
lol, should of been gigabyte, its not tyhe 90s anymore.

 

Skylake is already dead, seriously is the pc market now like the phone market. Buy a new computer and its out of date in less than 6 months.

I would of thought buying an almost 3k computer would give you more than a years, so far its looking like 6 months.

 

haha its actually the other way around, the phone market is becoming like the pc market, i remember back then they only released every 2 years bc of contracts... its been a long time now a lot of computer technology gets revised/renamed/relabeled or you see a 10%~15% improvement from generations before a big 30%+. If you try to upgrade all the time it'll be hard to keep up especially in the laptop market. If anything PC market depreciates the fastest but you "dont" really have to upgrade all the time. In most cases in desktop environment the most you'll need is a GPU upgrade if you dont go for the top tier, CPUs will usually last you the longest. Of course newer chipsets will bring more features newer features (usb3.1/thunderbolt etc..) If you spend that much on a desktop it'll last you wayyyyy longer than the laptop counterparts... Remember we're looking at GPU upgrades ranging from $700-1000+?? really lol thats the cost of 2x 1070s, 1080s.. or a single Titan X desktop.

This is why a lot of people were angry because we look for certain features when we buy a laptop because we invest in it so much. I for one said I would never buy a gaming laptop because it was a waste, I bought one because I would be traveling.. one feature I looked for was MXM.. oh look I can upgrade my GPU!.. but when they were like oh you need a new laptop to upgrade your GPU I got really upset.. Maybe because thats coming from someone who uses a desktop with a lot of upgrade options.

When/if external video cards become mainstream that'll be the day! hehe but most likely I'll have another desktop. Thats the only feature that I like about Alienware.. the "only" feature is their graphics amplifier.. it may not fully utilize the GPU but hell its faster than what you can get from the laptop counterpart for the "price". Amplifier ($159) + 1070 ($380?)... 1080 ($600ish?) thats super cheap as compared to how much laptop upgrades go for.. laptop upgrades cost almost half the laptop!

If only they have upgrade kits for cheap gaming laptops would be considered more.

 

I should of just stuck with a kick ass Desktop then, main reason why I got a laptop was so my GF could watch TV, while I do other stuff. Plus the idea of having a portable VR machine was amazing. I was thinking a 980GTX would be good enough for VR, but its looking like its probably not, especially if you have all the setting turned up in elite dangerous.

I got an email from MSI, so I`m seeing if any uk upgrades would be worth it, as long as I can have the same CPU and a 1080, then £1000 sounds ok. though I do lover everything else about my current computer, the dragon designs pretty cool.

The gpu, I dont think will cut it especially if any AAA VR games come out.

So from an older MSI gt72 2qe laptop which had its screen broken is onw in bits to sell on.
Hopefully Ill get something for the GTX980M 4Gb card, £300 should be enough to go towards any upgrades.

 

haha I hear ya man, I left my desktop at home, currently living in Japan... even the 1060 mobile will get you in between desktop 970 and 980 (non M).. the 1070 mobile right below 980M SLI.. the 1080 mobile right above 1070 desktop and slightly below 1080 desktop (due to temps/clocks/power etc...). So the 10 series 10(60/70/80) is definitely a step up from previous gens by a lot. It will last you a while till more demanding games come out and of course VR AAA titles like you said xD.

 

Why would be willing to pay £1,000 for a GPU MSI say cost $1,000?

 

Well its always the same in the uk, USA Item costs $100, then they expect people over here to pay £100 regardless of the exchange rate, its always been that way and companies give the reason being, the wages are higher over here or some other BS. I should be paying £700-£800.
But thats not going to happen.

 

LOL... just because Kabi Lake specs and prices are out doesn't mean that Skylake is dead ! Especially when you consider the perf gain with each new intel gen : the last 3 gen are not that far from each other, and a high end haswell/broadwell/skylake is still in the game and can compete with a kabi. Intel wants you to feel that your specs are outdated every 6 months/year but the facts are not like this : in reality if you bought a high end 4th or 5th gen i7 you can still play your games almost as on a 7th gen... Especially if you bought a K rev.

 

Ok, don't do it yet. MSI UK have told me they will come back with a final offer this week. And remember if they had stuck to their word, you would only have had to pay for the GPU and kept your existing GPU to sell or keep as a back up.

Max we should be paying is ~£500.

 

I think £500 is a bit optimistic, maybe not for a desktop card but Mxm cards are generally expensive.
I could probably get £900 just for selling my 980 GTX 8BG mxm desktop card.
Though I have seen the 1070 Mxm go for £700.

Mobile video card pricing seems very weird and expensive.

 

The way GBP to USD ratio is going mate we will soon be paying even more, trust me.

Price rises in the UK are inevitable.

 

MSI USA provided the price for an MXM 1080 at $1,000 (£803). So that's MSI own pricing.

So if they hadn't misled consumers, you could have bought that, that a 980m for ~£500 (going by sold 980m prices on ebay.co.uk).

Total cost to consumer = ~£300

So explain why you think paying more than 3 times what we should be paying is acceptable?

 

I guess it depends on how much you can get for your current laptop, mine is the same specs as below minus the 1080 card. So how much can I sell it for ? £1500 ? add £1000 and I have £2500. Which is still below the £2800 asking price.
Not forgetting the eBay fees.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/173...2gb-ddr4-512gb-m2-pcie-ssdplus1tb-hdd-8gb-gtx

Id be happy with a swap for the above computer, but I don`t really want to lose my dragon design though.

 

Why would you have had to sell your laptop if MSI had not mislead consumers?

 

skylake has and had issues... Issues that were not really fixed and should have been fixed.... Intel waited till kabylake to implement fixes

 

in that case when res is raised how will a 1080 be good enough?

Games need sli in vr... I could run The Lab just fine but everythning else ran and looked like crap... ended up returning the Vive.