GT72/GT72S and GT80/GT80S Owners GPU Upgrade Discussion

Nah, I meant once you start the process, not the received price. You can receive the price very early, but then still be left without answers for a while. However, once you do start the shipping options etc, communication are way more consistent.

 

Don't give up, try contacting them again.

 

So I'm just hearing about this trade in program. I guess its too late for me to get what MSI advertised??

 

Doesn't hurt to try, reach out to them.

 

Finally got in touch with MSI rep.

For my GT72 2QE 4710HQ, 980M, 32GB, 4x128 GB SSD (512 in Raid 0), and 1 TB HDD

They're offering:

GT72VR DOMINATOR PRO-450 for $550

• Display: 17.3" Full HD (1920 x 1080) Anti-Glare Wide View Angle 120Hz 5ms 94%NTSC
• 7th Generation Intel Core i7-7700HQ Quad Core (2.8GHz-3.8GHz, 6MB Intel Smart Cache, 45W)
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5
• RAM: 16GB (2x 8GB) DDR4 2400MHz | Hard Drive: 128GB M.2 SATA SSD + 1TB 7200RPM HDD

GT73VR TITAN-427 for $850

• Display: 17.3" 120Hz 5ms Full HD | Anti-Glare Wide View Angle 1920x1080 | Operating System: Windows 10
• Processor: Intel Core i7-7820HK (2.9-3.9GHz)
• Graphics Card: NVIDIA's GTX 1070 8G GDDR5
• RAM: 16GB (8GB x2) DDR4 2400MHz | Hard Drive: 1TB (SATA) 7200rpm

GT73VR TITAN-426 for $950

• Display: 17.3" 120Hz 5ms Full HD | Anti-Glare Wide View Angle 1920x1080 | Operating System: Windows 10
• Processor: Intel Core i7-7820HK (2.9-3.9GHz)
• Graphics Card: NVIDIA's GTX 1070 8G GDDR5
• RAM: 16GB (8GB x2) DDR4 2400MHz | Hard Drive: 256GB SSD (PCIE Gen3x4) + 1TB (SATA) 7200rpm

I feel like the 426 SKU should be $850 due to the loss of SSDs and RAM, but outside opinion would be appreciated?

 

Did you upgrade your GT72 or did you order a custom build with increased specs?

If you do decide to upgrade, I would go for a GT73 over a GT72, either one of the 73s, but a 256GB SSD right now for the PCIe type, is around 100dlrs so you can get either the 427/426. You could also go for a traditional SSD yourself, not the PCIe type, and get a 500GB one for slightly more than 100dlrs and go for the 427.

But before that, if you upgraded RAM and SSD on your own, you can remove those to match your original specs and then sell the ram and SSDs to recoup a bit of costs.

 

those prices are BS but if you do it def GT73 has twice the cooling. Don't know if it will upgrade to Nvidia Volta though

 

Just to close the loop on this one. I waited for 4 month to hear back from MSI Australia. It sounds like they had some internal fighting, and the support/tech department got shafted with the responsibility of keeping customers happy.

I traded in my GT72s with a GTX 980 (desktop card) to a GT73VR 7RF with A GTX1080 for only 240 AUD! The catch? Its a refurbished (basically new) model.

 

The heck? I want a deal like that! I'd happily take a refurbished model.

Oh, decided to grab the GT73VR 426 .... while I feel like I the upgrade should really be closer to the 700 line, I console myself with the OC potential of the 7820HK, the upgrade to the display w/ G-sync and 120 hz, a fresh warranty, and the fact that I'm able to side step the GT72VR chassis since I want to keep my MUX switch

 

Oh wow, that was a tremendous deal. I wouldn't mind refurb myself either to be honest. The step up from both 4th gen series CPUs to 7820hk in sustained performance, as well as the jump from 980 to 1080 is pretty big.

The situation over australia was a difficult, if I remember. I am glad it worked out for you in the end. At least MSI listened, if all of that unfolded.

I know what you mean. I agree it should be a bit less to upgrade. From what I have seen, the 7820HK generally overclocks 200mhz faster than the 6820hk, on average. It seems like it is more common to see 4.2ghz on such CPU, whereas I have to be content with less speed for the sake of temps

The display is great, the whole package feels amazing, and it is a great pair to have 1080p at high refresh rate for these GPUs. That 1070 alone has nearly the power of my previous 980m SLI, when SLI scaling was good.

Let us know how your trading goes, once you start the process. Mine was fairly fast, despite the initial wait time to get things going.

 

Will touch back here on how it goes. Just sent in CC info for cross shipping.

*sigh* I did ask about getting a 6th gen CPU version but they're out of those and they said no to trading refurbished since "they wouldn't qualify for second GPU upgrade" (their words not mine)

Oh well, I look forward to getting the thing in my hand Though my wallet will cry till they get my refund of the difference going

 

And they have now charged me.....any idea how long it takes from them charging my card in full to me having the new laptop in hand? *probably should've edited last post*

 

They should've charged you when its already agreed and sending the unit and it'll come to you as fast as which shipping you chose.

 

They didn't ask me about shipping. Just gave me the CC form and told me they're processing the new unit.

 

that's cruddy! you'd think they would communicate with you better.

 

I asked about shipping and was told they only ship ground. I gave my CC last Friday 5/19 and expect the new laptop this Friday 5/26. The package shipped from California and had to come clear across country to Maine where I live. I didn't receive tracking info until Monday but tracking shows it did actually ship last Friday.

 

you should be good if you can track the first stop.

 

Update and good news:
So called the PM guy that has been my point of contact for questions and processing for the program and talked about my model and how I'm losing SSDs and RAM in the trade.

Was lengthy call, but he was friendly and talkative and we managed to agree that the model I was getting (namely the GT73VR TITAN - 426) was not equivalent in specifications.

Long story short, he agreed to knock off another $500 of the original $900 trade in price. So now I'm upgrading for just $400......New laptop with much better actual hardware overall and new things like 120 Hz screen and G-Sync + new warranty and chance to participate in 2nd trade up program in a year or two? Now this seems well worth the price of only $400.

Also, got the tracking number of the new unit and they agreed to accept my old unit with dead battery and fans and defect OEM parts as long as the thing turned on regardless of the fact that myoriginal warranty ended a good few months ago.

Overall, I'm very very happy with my experience in the trad up program so far and heavily encourage others take advantage of it. Excitedly await the new unit that should arrive next Thursday/Friday

 

That's great news. Sad everyone else couldn't get a similar deal. They should have contacted everyone via email and worked this out in the beginning instead of closed door deals for people lucky enough catch it in time.

 

I actually didn't find out about any of this till April of this year I agree that everyone should've been contacted early on and worked out more smoothly, but apparently the guys in charge now aren't aware how things were started in the beginning except only vaguely. It was explained to me that basically MSI just one day turned to them and was like here we started this and now you're in charge handle it. And there's only two of them like the ****?

When they said the team was small...I was thinking maybe 10-15.

Asked about the second trade up program and he said that now that they have the contact info of everyone involved in the 1st that they plan to E-Blast everyone at once when it comes online.

As for the deals, it turns out that alot of the database in managed via a horrible network connecting back to Taiwan and that he has to rely on multiple people in other dept to get him the info he needs. Basically, we were able to work things out smoothly once I got him on the phone....but doing it over email made the whole thing impersonal and didn't grab his attention as much as it probably should've to catch the mistakes.

I'm pretty sure they're still accepting applicants for the deal, but yeah.....mass emails over the course of two weeks grabbed their attention (had to aslo mix up the subject line to be attention grabbing) and then more mass email to the point of contact before finally just calling him

 

That is awesome man, glad to hear you got a killer deal That's why I encourage everyone to directly address MSI with the trade in. Sure the initial price is based on their lists, but you got an excellent deal based on the extras of your model that worked better in your favor

Be sure to let us know about your new machine over here once you get to play with it. Thanks to the 1080, I am rediscovering previous games, playing even in 4K now

I can't wait to get home today and try Vanquish haha

 

On closer inspection, I can start to see why I only payed 240 dollars. Only one 250Gb SSD with 1Tb HDD and 75Hz screen. Oh well. Can't still complain about the price point for a GPU and CPU upgrade.

 

Another satisfied customer!
too good to be true

 

Many of these chips can do 4.2 ghz with an *undervolt* of 100mv, and 4.4 ghz at stock volts. Just don't attempt to run AVX Prime Blend (do NOT do AVX small FFT for ANY reason) at those speeds. If you're not using Liquid Metal, temps go through the roof even at 100% fan speed. Even Pentium 4 type FFT by disabling avx in the txt file (using blend; small FFT will drive temps through the roof) is going to run hot. A more realistic load of what an application would truly do is an 8 core chess engine.

 

I wonder if the GT75VR will be added to the trade in options...

 

Does MSI charge tax on the cross exchange?

Has anyone upgraded to the gt83?
Are there any differences between gt83 models besides just the gpu, ssd's, and ram?

If I cross exchange, I would be sending mine in with different secondary drive specs than the original laptop model. It will be smaller but a ssd instead of the hdd. does anyone have any experience with this? did MSI charge more $$ for doing this?

Thanks,
Mason

 

You need to send the machine with the "original" specs. Otherwise I would advise you to let them know, as they can charge you for any missing/changed specs from the original model. You are free to keep any upgrades you did yourself.

GT83 seems to be using the same screen, so you will get better cooling, CPU, GPUs, RAM, SSDs etc.

At any rate, as soon as you do decide to start the upgrade process, communications are usually much faster.

 

I wonder this too. I believe it will, though I havent looked much into it, I think GT75 will phase out the rest of the GT7X models right?

 

I have told them and they said to try to make sure the specs are the same. Its kind of confusing...


Do they charge tax on the cross exchange?


If they charge tax before refunding the amount then I would be paying tax on the base model cost which is a lot more $$$....

 

Well there was no GT73VR shown at Computex, so that is my assumption as well.

They did not charge me sales tax or shipping on the new laptop, when I cross shipped my GT72.

 

Alright I finally got my price list. Which has almost no info at all. I'm hoping to trade my gt80 2qd in for a gt73vr sli-212 model.

I would love to go to the gt 83 but the mechanical key board already keeps my fiance up at night when I use it in the same room as her.
Unfortunately for me that means it is not a great idea to get another mechanical keyboard, fortunately for my wallet this should drastically reduce my upgrade cost so wooo hooo.

Those of you who have had phone contact with your representatives when did they finally get back to you after the initial questionnaire. I'm trying to make this as quick as possible because I need a laptop for my online summer school classes that start june 22nd. I can go a week or two without one but it would be best to get it done asap.

I have no point of contact yet as none of the signatures have included a phone number to call. I just wanna get this over with.

Any tips for getting the prices down as I noticed their product lists don't have any models listed and don't seem to take into account differences between models.

 

Good luck getting the prices down. You need to contact them about different options if you want to buy a different model and then figure out what they value yours at.

After that, you can use this old spreadsheet I put together to see what your options might be for pricing by using your value as the reference price. My pricing is all based on my original offer value they gave me for my MSI GT80 SLI-001.

The pricing was too high and I opted to keep my laptop for now since it still runs most of the latest titles maxed out or near maxed out.

http://www.ifshtf.com/files/MSI-GT72-GT80-TRADE-PROGRAM.xlsx

 

So I purchased my laptop early 2015 and had a 3 year warranty. I never received anything on this trade up program. Am I to get a upgrade offer??

 

If you are interested in the trade in, I suggest you also keep emailing them you DO want to participate with the program. That should help speed things up regarding communication and make things generally go faster.

As for tips for getting prices down, there is no easy formula. Part of it is negotiation, and it has to do with what you currently have vs what is being offered. You can do it

As soon as you make up your mind about which model you want to trade in, make sure to let them know ASAP. That way they can start the process quickly.

 

i got my prices reduced

im going to get my gt83 cross exchange for $500

 

Works for everyone; theres no deadline for the trade program but you have to be the one to reach out to them

 

Hoping for some advice here.. I have a GT72 2QE and I really need the physical space for drives and optical drive to keep using the laptop the way that I am using this one. The GT73VR is really ruled out as I don't want to have to have an external optical drive. I liked the flexibility of using a drive caddy in the GT72, which even in the GT83VR, is not an option.

All that said, I know I'm going to lose functionality somewhere, and the way I see it, if I want to get similar physical space, I need to opt for a GT83VR upgrade. I really don't need or care about SLI cards, a single 1070 or 1080 would be fine.

To keep similar specs and physical drive space (M.2, SSD, optical), do you think I'd be served best to upgrade to the GT83VR?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/182588894256?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
one left keep what you got get the 1070 just cant use the boost clock but you can manually overclock. so I hear

 

Well, rumor has it that there will be a GT75VR option soonish...so you can opt to wait for that for the trade in if you want.

The trade in is valide for the 11 series cards too down the line.

Honestly, though, what could you possibly need a built in optical drive for in this day and age?

 

Simple, it is another drive bay with a 9.5mm caddy. That encrypted data drive is an easy removal and it goes with me on work trips, as I certainly wouldn't lug around this mammoth machine along with me. If I'm going to have a beast of a laptop, it better fit everything I want / need.

On another note, it's been a week since I stated to them that I would like to do the trade, but wanted to discuss further. Any idea of what the current lag time is? Still a month+?

 

It's been a week for me too. I would assume that a month would be the max. Let's hope at least my comp isn't getting any younger

 

Eh.......At that point I'd just have one externally; no laptop is perfect. I mean, you sometimes get that perfect set up, but, and this is just my experience, that is incredibly rare.

If your lugging around the beast, your gonna need a large laptop bag anyway, so the external will easily fit in that and if your using smaller laptop you'll still be using something to carry it ... so you'll likely till have carry space for an external. Those things are pretty compact nowadays.

I do get what you mean though. All that money and investment....kinda defeats the purpose if it doesn't tick all the right boxes.

Actually, the GT72VR has an optical drive so you might prefer that option. You'll be losing out on MUX button for switching graphics cards, but....

Oh, and actually I spammed there email using different subject tag lines to grab attention. When I finally got someone I called instead of emailed. Worked much faster and got me a much better deal.

Here:
Ming S. Rong
PM Coordinator
Tel: +1(626)913-0828 ext 147
Email: [email protected]

He's the one who was my contact point and handling my trade in. He's pretty chill.

Try calling; might do you better.

Otherwise, yeah, it took me about a month to get someone.

EDIT:
While getting the GT72VR will definitely save money and should realistically meet all your needs if you only want a 1070 and an optical drive....I don't know if they come with 6th or 7th gen CPU. If they come with the 6th, then I very strongly recommend against the 1080 as you'll just bottleneck it; it doesn't OC the same way that the 7820 does to take match the power of it.

You're going to lose out on SSD and RAM no matter which option you take, though as far as I'm aware. I know the 83 model can come with more, but it's waaaay overpriced when you can just install your own later if you absolutely need it. Otherwise, I doubt you'll feel the missing 16 GB RAM. The storage space might require some changes on your part, but ..... eh that's what the extra slot is for if you want to install another.

 

Hi guys...Things are going OK on my end. However I have a request. Does anyone have the full advertisement from the MSI website about the GT80 and the GT72 before the release of the 10xx series before they changed it. I need the whole page if anyone has it not a clip of part. The one that use to be in the lounge for the GT80 desktop would be great.

 

The only thing I have is the screenshots I took back in 2016. http://imgur.com/a/OiHau
You can try checking web.archive.org but last I checked they didn't have any copies of the model pages, and the Google caches have been updated to the new version by this point.

 

It's also in the boxes too.

Sent from my MotoG3 using Tapatalk

 

Sorry it's only from MSI French website, will dig up more for US version I think I might have it as well...

 

Hello.

Even though I've read here that you have to pester them to get the upgrade going, I've been patient and waiting for them to call me. In the mean time a question crossed my mind.

Since the upgrade is suppose to be good for the next 2 iterations of the video card, has anyone heard when the 1100s might be slated to show up? I can't find anything on the interwebs.

Thanks for any input.

Zyxian

 

Nvidia has never implied anything but a 2018 commercial release.

I'm pretty sure MS would've sat on the GT75 for a while, if Volta was imminent.

 

Thank you Kevin.

Since I'm waiting for them to contact me and at the speed they seem to be moving it just MAY BE 2018 when I get a call. LOL

 

The MSI 1070's from their Vortex G65VR went in easy into an old Clevo and work great - even on its designed-for-75W 2 piece 670M heatsinks - using 110W+ the cards sit on ~79C/86C (same temps as the original GPUs actually)

I cbf going back and finding my posts from late last year when I said I strongly suspected MSI was totally lying about how different the Pascal architecture was and how it needed a new chassis behind it... anyway here I am putting TWO in a 5 year old Clevo model with an Ivy Bridge CPU and getting perfectly normal 1070 SLI graphics scores in 3dmark off one 330W powerbrick ...