GT780R and GT683R already available in GentechPC, Finally!

Hey Guys,

I have updated the 'GT780R Owner's Lounge' lead post, revised important warranty info (please read..... HERE!), and added our forum friendly resellers.

Enjoy!

 

Some ideas and thoughts can be had HERE! Much of this is being discussed. We'd be glad to have ya visit!

 

So, I have a really stupid question but legit.

GT683R came with a voucher (coupon?) for Mafia II download and some other game(s) and a Starcraft II trial. Does the GT780R have the same or something similar to it? I can't deny that I like freebies.

Also:

After you get your hands on this unit, name 1 or 2 games that you'll be playing on it immediately. Let's say... for testing purposes if you're not much of a gamer.

Mine would be GTA IV and Rift. As you can see in my sig, i can barely run them right now despite owning the games. XD

 

If I were to get it, I'd immediately run Crysis: Warhead and Metro 2033. Those are still punishing games.

Oh, by the way, notice you have an Asus G50vt. I used to have one of those (G50vt-X6, then moved on to a G51vx-Rx05, then onto the GX660R), and the difference in gaming power is very noticeable.

 

Haven't ran any temperature tests, did a bit of OCing with MSI afterburner, although I had gentech repaste my cpu and gpu with IC diamond.

my room temps are fairly warm here in hawaii and I'm running MUCH cooler than my previous notebook (Asus G71g A3) not to mention WAY quieter. I had turbo on all day and for a second thought I could hear the noise of it, but then realized I had my Asus on across my room

It's a fairly large fan so it doesn't have that fan whine/hum you're used to. When I have turbo off and I'm just chilling in 2D stuff especially it's VERY quiet. I can only hear a faint hum if I have my ear sitting on the keyboard. OMG the keyboard, don't even get me started on how awesome it is. Looks amazing with the lights and it is by far the best device I've ever typed on.

 

Now see, I know what you are doing! You are trying to rub it in since mine hasn't arrived, aren't you?

DANG YOU!

 

Tnx Segadomcast. I asked about the heat since I do alot of video convertions and editing (most convertions tax all processor cores max for the next 60 to 90 minutes). My last $3000 dollar laptop would whine like crazy and the laptop body would sometimes be "really" hot barely 5 minutes doing its work. BTW, the laptop was an HP Envy.

Yeah, I really like the keyboard on this. Looks are really cool as well

 

Playing crysis now on high settings with no problem.

 

Could you please post your idle and load temps for GPU/CPU? I am very interested in temps of this unit.

 

Will do as soon as I get home, I can tell you temps with turbo fan on are outstanding, if I remember right low to mid 70's during gaming.

 

Thanks! Could you please post them with and without turbo fan? Your ambient temps will be aslo a valuble value.

 

Can you post the noise levels as well? I sometimes need to do work in my room and wify may get grumpy with a "loud" fan

Noise levels are important too

 

ok after about 2 hours of gaming (ambient temp 73) :

cpu max temp 68
gpu max temp 73

Idle temps (no turbo fan):

cpu low 30's
gpu low 40's

fan noise is definitely audible when turbo's on probably similar to Asus and silent when off. Sorry i havent checked temps during gaming with turbo off.

 

Thanks for info! You are running your GPU overclocked? What game it was?

 

The Witcher 2
OC 925/1850
275.33 Driver

 

Thanks mate!

 

Too bad we shipped your GT780R too soon, I guess you'll have to do your -=$tr|k3Rz=- Essentials- yourself.

-Ken (AKA Kenshiro, 拳四郎

 

And I think, that we will appreciate his impressions and review of the unit

 

UMmmmmmmmmmm, are you saying my '-=$tr|k3Rz Essentials' have not been installed?

My '-=$tr|k3Rz Essentials' BETTER be there KENshiro, or I gonna be SPANK'in DAT @$$! YEE - HAAAAAAA! (danc'in like a fool!)

LOL!

 

Can someone at Gentech or Xotic compare the build quality of the G73/G74 with the GT780R? We all know the specs, those are easily listed on the Internet. What I'm looking for is the FEEL of the laptop. I need a laptop that can take two years of abuse when I'm on the road. It will be on my back every single day.

 

Overall feel of the machine I would have to say I like the G73. We have a few staff members that have been using the G73 series since they launched and they still look like new. I like the rubberized finish. That's not saying the GT780 will not hold up, only time will tell that.

Feature/Hardware wise I would say the MSI has the edge. I know this probably will not help but overall both are very good machine's.

 

Yeah I like the G73 more so than the GT780R or G74, the design is both sleek and professional and its pretty well built IMO.

I like the fact that you can get a matte screen on a non 3d model laptop from MSI thats a big bonus IMO, but the screen does not seem to be as nice just from pictures/vidoes I have sen as the G73 screen that is the 120hz 3d matte so I would probably pay the $200 more for the 3D version for that nicer screen even if I did not want 3d.

 

The 2630 should be enough for most needs. While many did an upgrade to the 2720 processor, in my opinion, this processor is just the 2630 overclocked. If you want a real upgraded processor better get the 2820. This is because it has a higher L3 cache of 8mb. While this may not seem much, its a 33% increase. What this does is it lessens the fetching time of the processor. Whereas the 2630 will need to fetch its data more "outside" the cpu, which will result to be slower.

Should you get the ssd or hd in raid 0? Well, only you can answer that. If you want speed, better get the SSD. Raid 0 stripping has no data protection. For many, this is not a good thing, as raid 0 increases the chance of data loss. Further, Raid 0 two hdds will surely not equal the speed of a single ssd. But it will be faster than a single drive. Please do read the thread, I remember I read somewhere Paladin already answer this question and suggested to just add the ssd.

However, while most people talk about the speed of raid 0, remember that raid 0 also uses some cpu power, and will lower the performance of the cpu. While not much, still well a little.

 

A single SSD will be MUCH faster than two HDD's in RAID 0. You only need an SSD that is large enough to hold your OS and software applications, plus about 30% overhead. Then get a regular HDD that is large enough for all your storage needs.

 

Thanks for posting your Temps

Wasn't able to follow the thread in two days and I read Alot of new posts! wow

 

Hmmm... maybe we'll have to wait for the new G74 and see how this compares with GT780? Maybe, the dual fans and bigger heat sink does a better job.

 

I would like to know if GT683r have support SATA 3. Anybody know ?

Best regards

 

No, actually, this was a really big help! Thank you so much for this information.

 

And perhaps, take a peek HERE too! Good luck in your decision!

 

Yes, both hard drive bays support SATA III hard drives at 6Gb/s.

 

This is a little off-topic but will there be any HDD that will be able to utilise SATA III soon?

This doesn't include SSD.

Or is this a rather silly question?
Sorry for my stupidity =/

 

SATA III magnetic hard drives are not yet available. SATA III is only available in SSDs at this time.

We expect SATA III magnetic hard drives at some point, but until we can actually have them in hand it is difficult to estimate when.

 

have not seen them in a 2.5 inch laptop but they will never be as fast as SSD drives

 

A hard drive on a laptop isn't going to run any faster at Sata III vs sata II, so no point in waiting or looking for it

 

^--^
That is a strange statement. On what do you base it.

 

An ordinary hard drive is achieving speeds that are largely lower that the max bandwidth of SATA II 3Gb/s (375MB/s), around 70MB/s for most drives. Therefore there is no point of increasing the bandwidth to 750MB/s(SATA III 6Gb/s). SSDs on the other hand can achieve read speed that exceed the limit of SATA II 3Gb/s by a large amount. Intel 510 series SSDs can show speeds around 500MB/s and so require a larger bandwidth.

 

If that's the case, then I suppose I'll wait for the right time when SSD becomes cheaper for me to afford one..
It's still expensive, ouch..
Btw,what SSD would you guys recommend?
Crucial, OCZ, Intel, I don't know @_@

Some say that Intel is more reliable despite the lower speed compared to the others.
I don't know which to follow =/

 

Intels are very good. Mines fairly old and it runs like a charm. I'm assuming the new ones are just better.

 

Well, I've heard a lot of complains regarding the OCZ Vertex especially Vertex 2, that problematic huh? I suppose it's thanks to the Sandforce controller built in the Vertex 2.

Guess the Crucial and Intel will be better choices since they are more reliable and less prone to failure =)

Still, they are costly.. It's a luxury to afford one of those.. Gues I gotta have bread and peanuts for my lunch and breakfast to afford one of these XD

 

We have literally thousands of OCZ drives in service around the world, and as long as they have the latest firmware we are seeing an incredibly low failure rate. I can count with less than 10 fingers the number of failures.

 

Is it?
Why is there so many complains regarding the OCZ SSD?

I even heard that OCZ does not allow reviewers to review the SSD now, I wonder if that's actually true.

Based on your experience, what would you recommend to me?
I'd aim for a SSD with at least 120GB capacity.

 

Your best choice are the intel SSD drives, they are the most stable, the OCZ drives have many problems from BSOD to drives not detected, etc. If you do a google search you will find many cases of OCZ drive problems. The Intel 120GB SSD Is Your Best Bet for a primary boot drive.

 

Since you only need an SSD that is big enough for your OS and software applications, plus a little overhead I would figure around 35GB for your OS + 5GB if you get a Blu-ray drive + plus whatever all of your software amounts to (go to Program Files, right click and click on Properties and let it load. Look for Size on Disk). Then take that total number and divide by say .7 if you want 30% overhead. That will tell you what size SSD you need for your boot drive. Most people don't need more than 120GB.

 

We have solved every one of these issues. The most important thing is to have firmware 2.06 for Vertex 3 and 1.33 for Vertex 2. This will eliminate virtually every BSOD.

We have only had two instances where we could not solve the drive not being detected...out of literally thousands of them in the field. In both instances it was simply a bad drive. So our failure rate has been only a tiny percentage of the drives in the field.

We are not "OCZ" reps or anything like that...we just like speed and have found solutions for the few that have had problems.

I leave it to you to decide why others are having "so many" problems. Even they represent only a small fraction of the number of drives in the field. They of course will come to various forums to complain about them. Keep in mind that when a magnetic drive fails people tend to just say...ah well, my HDD failed. HDDs are the most common component to fail in laptops.

 

OCZ has a VERY poor track record with their SSD compatibility. Many manufactures SSD drives have various compatibility issues. Intel has been the most stable with almost no compatibility complaints. This is the only reason we suggest Intel SSD's. We would rather our customers have a drive that has virtually 0 campatibility problems. To receive a new notebook and have to start performing firmware updates would not be my choice.

 

Coludfire's post says it all:

P.S : nice work Cloudfire, if it's a thread it should be sticky.

 

That very much settles my choice of SSD. Intel should be a better alternative since the 510 series is actually fast enough. After all, SSD is a luxurious piece of hardware, I don't know when I'll be able to afford one..

Cloudfire's post is great, he referred and made his opinions, very solid I must say, thumbs up!

paladin44, you're right as well, HDD has a tendency to fail more than SSD's, my HDD could fail up to 2 times within 9-12 months, wow..

For the personal preference, Intel FTW =)

 

Just curious...... is someone going to create a GT683R 'Owner's Lounge? Someone? Hasn't this thread served it's purpose?

Just a thought!

 

Maybe noone owns a GT683 yet because the GT780R is just too attractive despite being a 17 incher? XD

GT780 is definitely in the limelight, so be proud as the owner of 1 great beast =)

 

Dig around places. If you can't afford the 510s or 320s, take a look at the older G2s. They still rock hard and are just as reliable as the newer ones.

Speaking of G2s what are the write cycle limits on those?