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    MS-1039 Expected in Early March

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by unleaded, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. Pharoke

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    You have no idea. :D Everytime I read one of yours or unleaded's reviews I get all anxious. :rolleyes:
     
  2. spud8

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    Does anyone know whether the MS-1039 will have its AC power port on the side of its chassis or in the back?
     
  3. paz

    paz Notebook Geek

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    Msi sent me this

    " 1039 wont be available in Canada "

    ...Stupid companie !

    :eek:
     
  4. Losati

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    Sounds like someone's takin' a trip to the US! And smuggling it in to avoid taxes... =D

    Though I feel for ya, man. That's pretty lame of MSI.
     
  5. Pharoke

    Pharoke Notebook Evangelist

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    Order from Rawpowerpc.com they accept orders from Canada.
     
  6. bsr5

    bsr5 Notebook Guru

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    yeah, rawpowerpc.com is the best :)
     
  7. bsr5

    bsr5 Notebook Guru

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    ok it's like really late in march now..
     
  8. Losati

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    lol..i hear ya...the anticipation is killing me!
     
  9. dead_red_eyes

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    im really anxious for new news on this thing. ....
     
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  12. FlipTwisteR

    FlipTwisteR Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    That has been out there for a while, I also found that when doing a search. I don't expect that they really have them but it might be possible. They are located in Alaska. It seems a tad unlikely that they have them when MSI's best partners in US do not. $1,200 also seems a tad high.
     
  13. CoffeeShark

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    The price is likely more of an estimate, and they will not have any in stock.
     
  14. jzephyr

    jzephyr Notebook Geek

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    ouch.. $1200? That'll break my student funds.
     
  15. paz

    paz Notebook Geek

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    The new game of the year

    " Find a MSI Dealer AND a 1039!".....

    For Pro Only;

    "DO the samething but in CAnada...!"

    :eek:
     
  16. Iskander

    Iskander Notebook Evangelist

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    Well i found one german website with price comparison!!!!! (yes, it´s crazy)

    And the price is for COMPLETE MACHINE, i mean, 80gb HD, 512 ram. wireleess and WSXGA+!!!!!

    The lowest is 1190 euros!!! (1500 u$?)

    http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/a187203.html
     
  17. Iskander

    Iskander Notebook Evangelist

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    HEY one thing more:

    if my german is not wrong in this website it says it will be available in March 28!!!!!!!

    "Verfügbarkeit: voraussichtlich: 28.03.06 " (Availability: presumably)

    http://www.fortknox.de/cat3.php?art=79398
     
  18. jzephyr

    jzephyr Notebook Geek

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    March 28, 2006.. that's pretty "late March" to me.. CAN'T WAIT! :)!! I hope rawpowerpc will have it by early April.
     
  19. FlipTwisteR

    FlipTwisteR Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    I find it very odd that MSI is coming out with the MS-1039 late March/early April when the Turion 64 X2 is coming out on May 9th:

    http://www.laptoplogic.com/news/detail.php?id=644

    Clearly the Turion X2 notebooks will have some advantages over the Turion:
    2 cores vs. 1
    Dual channel vs. single channel
    2mb L2 cache (1mb per core) vs 1 mb
    DDR2 667/800 ram vs DDR 333

    I was really looking forward to the MS-1039. Obviously with the Turion 64 X2 having a new socket (S1) the MS-1039 will not be upgradable. I know better tech is always going to be coming out but 1 month later?

    Could any of the MSI resellers comment on this?
     
  20. Iskander

    Iskander Notebook Evangelist

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    I think for 15" it will take more than 1 month... The Core duo Turion (1042) will be 17", so i would say 3-4 months from now to have a dual turion 15".

    Remember the 1039 is 15"
     
  21. FlipTwisteR

    FlipTwisteR Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    My comment was not really directed at when a 15" notebook will be available. I realize that it will be a while before notebooks using the X2 will be avaialble. My comment was directed more at the fact that the MSI is releasing a new notebook very close to when the Turion 64 X2 will be released. It just seems odd that they are releasing a new notebook 1 month before a newer and better CPU will be out. It seems that they will be cutting the life cycle of the MS-1039 short.

    Did any notebook manufacturers release new Pentium M models a month before the Core Duo was released?

    I'm still very interested in the MS-1039, I just find the timing very odd. MSI obviously new about the X2.
     
  22. Iskander

    Iskander Notebook Evangelist

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    it was in their roadmap, so as far as i can think it was planned to be like this, 2 months berfore the new x2.

    The 1039 is not really a new notebook, it´s more an upgrade in the video card of the 1029 wich has been around for quit some time.

    I don´t think they made a mistake. It´s just my opinion.
     
  23. CoffeeShark

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    The x2 may come out in april, but we're not expecting systems immediately after, probably more like June or even July for x2 systems to be out in decent supply.

    If the 1039 makes it out in early April, it should have a few months of sales, it's still a powerful system, and it's unknown when we'll see the X2 model with the x1600 after that.
     
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    I am looking forward to this beauty with saliva dripping from my mouth. However, it seems like it'll be pretty hard (impossible?) to get a hold of from a swedish store. Does anybody know a good european e-store that can ship it to sweden?

    Any idea what the pricing could be with a full 2Gb RAM and the smallest possible 7200 rpm HDD?
     
  25. FlipTwisteR

    FlipTwisteR Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    CoffeeShark,

    I will still probably end up buying a MS-1039 (depending on how the price compares to Asus Z96j). I can't wait until June or July (and I suspect that is best case), I have been using my old notebook because my newer one broke and it is driving me nuts. It just bothers me that I will get notebook knowing that better tech is months away. I'm sure the MS-1039 will perform very well.

    Is your avatar a cat or bunny?
     
  26. CoffeeShark

    CoffeeShark Notebook Evangelist

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    I have a 1036, and probably will keep it for a long time, i don't really need any more power than the Turion mt-40 and the x700. I don't think you'll go wrong with the 1039, either.


    the avatar is Mr. RabbitPuff.
     
  27. Bushers

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    I wanted to wait for this but dont have time. Just bought the MS-1029, MT-40, 1gb OCZ DDR400 ram, Hitachi 7200rpm HD. Just gotta wait this week for it all to turn up... :D
     
  28. syxbit

    syxbit Notebook Evangelist

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    i already mentioned this on the other post about the LCD monitor, but it might be of interest here
    just while browsing, i noticed the MSI website change to include the optional WSXGA - which is 1440*900, which honestly is probably the best option for a 15.4"
    that's great news
    http://www.msicomputer.com/NB/product_spec.asp?model=MS-1039
     
  29. unleaded

    unleaded Notebook Evangelist

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    The optional WSXGA+ screen is 1600 x 1050. The resolution you referenced would be WXGA+
     
  30. syxbit

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    nope you're wrong, and WSXGA+ would be 1680*1050 not 1600*1050
     
  31. unleaded

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    Yes, you're correct, WSXGA+ WOULD be 1680 x 1050, my mistake. However, I'm curious to know where you are seeing an option for a WXGA+ screen on MSI's web site.
     
  32. CoffeeShark

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    Actually, 1440x900 falls into both WXGA+ and WSXGA resolutions.

    WSXGA+ is the 1680x1050.

    The true option on the MSI is unknown at this point because they have not yet released a 15.4" LCD higher res than the plain WXGA on the 1029/1032 (1280x800).

    The website does say WSXGA, which insinuates the non-enhanced 1440x900, but their previous highres screen on their 17" is the WSXGA+ (1680x1050), though half of their documentation mistakenly does not include the "+".

    Let's just wait and see what the final release specs say.
     
  33. DaveWoo

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    1440x900 resolution is fairly rare in a 15.4" notebook; the only notebook that I know of with this type of screen is the Apple MacBook Pro.
     
  34. unleaded

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    MSI has told me that the optional screen they are looking at/testing is 1680 x 1050. Of course, everything is subject to change.
     
  35. syxbit

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    i really wanted to get one, but i hate being in the unknown
    not sure when it's coming, if it will get a high res. screen, and even if it does, when it will come out (as it will be after the low res. version). How much it will cost..etc...
    it's kinda stupid of MSI to really expect us to just wait around while they not only leave us in the dark, but delay.

    sorry guys, but i just bought a Dell E1505 :confused: (i know, i'm sad too, i really wanted the MSI)
    today they released it with the ATI x1400 256mb gfx card.
    while it isn't nearly as good as the x1600, it's good enough
    i was working out just how much it would cost (the MSI that is)
    at
    $1000 for the 1039.
    $100 for the high res. screen
    $150 for HD
    $100 Ram
    $40 for wifi
    $300 for a turion MT-40

    it totals $1690.

    although it's a great system, it's just a little expensive, esp. compared with a fully loaded system from Dell with the $750 off coupon
    here's what i got (let me know if you think i messed up, i suppose i could always cancel)

    Duo Core 2ghz (highest option available) (destroys any turion, although, granted.. it's 32bit)
    1gb DDR2 ram (2*512)
    120gb 5400 SATA HD
    6 cell, and 9 cell battery (hey! i had to get $2000 for the coupon to work)
    Windows Media Centre 2005
    Intel 3945 pro wireless and Dell Bluetooth v2
    256MB ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1400 HyperMemory
    15.4 Inch UltraSharp TrueLife Wide-screen WSXGA+
    8X DVD+/-RW Drive

    total was $2021-$775 =$1271+tax

    you can't say that isn't an amazing deal.

    i've always wanted to buy a barebone, and choose and build the rest myself...but with deals like these, i doubt i'll be able to afford it :(

    let me know what you think
     
  36. CoffeeShark

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    hey, if you have to go Dell, go for it, you won't beat the price, just the quality. A $1300 system like the one you configured is quite a deal.

    just remember that the x1400 is in no way comparable to the x1600 (or even the x700), and that hypermem doesn't give you the performance that dedicated vram does. If you know that going in, then good luck with your purchase, and now you have to go to the Dell forums. :D
     
  37. syxbit

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    as i stated in my original post, i know the x1400 is significantly inferior to the x1600 (you get what you pay for)
    i agree, theMSI is certainly the better of the two. I just am a little low on cash, and didn't want to have the specs suffer too much.
    still, if it comes out really soon, and is not too expensive, i'd have time to send my dell back and get the 1039....
     
  38. rebthor

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    I have to agree with syxbit's complaint (kind of like Portnoy's I suppose) that the real problem is being kept in the dark by MSI as to when this machine can legitimately be expected. This is not just an MSI problem by any means though as I saw very similar things from Asus, HP, Sony, et. al. regarding their new model refreshes that came with the Core Duo. Heck, even Apple had to push off their initial shipments by about a month. About the only one it seems that hasn't had some sort of supply issue is Dell and perhaps Lenovo, although people were waiting a long time for Dell to finally offer the 1505 with some sort of dedicated gfx chip.

    As I have recently come into the market for a laptop, I don't know if this issue is specific to the new x1600/Core Duo (as both seem to be subject to delays) or if this is standard operating procedure, but I can tell you that MSI (and any other vendor) is only hurting itself by not clearly communicating the expected date that these things come available and "Coming Soon" on a webpage is not it.

    As my needs are not urgent, I am content to wait for the 1039 and see what kind of machine it turns out to be, but I think that had it been available closer to when it was announced as coming soon, MSI would have had a great competitive advantage.

    No one faults MSI, Asus or whomever for supplier problems, but no one likes "paper launches" either.
     
  39. syxbit

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    paper launches only lead to sparks of interest followed by sparks of fury, and shopping else where :(
     
  40. CoffeeShark

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    agreed with all your comments. The ati x1600 manufacturing timeline, by all evidence, had some issues early on and pushed pretty much everyone's releases back.

    but, a lot of these 'paper launches' get launched by people seizing on roadmaps as fact, which is not the intent of a roadmap. This becomes a problem for us because now, the manufacturers won't even release a basic roadmap for fears that any deviation will be perceived as a failure to deliver.

    The "coming soon" issues crop up because of the differences in markets - such as a unit releasing in Japan and not in the US at the same time. Plus you have manufacturers trying to get across the appearance of keeping up with the competition.

    so, lots of factors in the game. it would be nice to just announce and deliver, but it's not really practical.
     
  41. KillerNotebooks

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    Before you go to DELL check us out man... you owe it to yourself to have a Killer system.

    [​IMG]
     
  42. FlipTwisteR

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    Isn't that "killer notebook" a MS-1029?
     
  43. CoffeeShark

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    yup, and only $200 more than the identical rig at Xmeld or Rawpower! killer!
     
  44. unleaded

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    As much as I search, I don't find you as an authorized MSI reseller.....

    Whore elsewhere.
     
  45. CoffeeShark

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    wait, unleaded, you too can have warranty support through the manufacturer only!
     
  46. unleaded

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    Sweet, I can buy from him but expect him to turn his back?!?!

    I'm there!
     
  47. KillerNotebooks

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    Wow, well. You guys aren't too angry are you?

    First, you don't know what my tech support is.
    Second, You don't know what upgrades I do to the systems that xmeld and RawPower do.
    Third, my systems include 108 Mbps a/b/g/G+ internal wireless
    Fourth, Xmeld is at $1,599 shipped and doesn't include system set up and system restore DVD. Upgrading to 2 Gigs of RAM is $29 more than KillerNotebooks, they don't even offer 100 Gig 7,200 rpm drives, and extra battery is $110 and mine is $65.
    RawPowerPc is at $1,609 without the system set up and system restore dvd, the extra battery there is $125, a 100 Gig 7,200 rpm hard drive is $197 more when mine is $65.

    Seriously, I didn't come to this forum to get atttacked. I came here to share some info, and contribute... With 100+ notebooks in the field I probably have faced and resolved problems already people are having trouble with.

    All I said was, "Check it out first". I'm sure people can make their own choices without all the negativity.
     
  48. unleaded

    unleaded Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, and Xmeld and Rawpower don't solicit sales here either. I'd be interested to know what mods you perform and your relationship with MSI to support your endeavors.
     
  49. Pharoke

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    Hmmmm.....capt. killer seems a bit fishy to me and I have to say I would buy from xmeld or rawpower before I buy from some @ss-hat who is whoring for potential clients on a forum with less than 10 posts (sad)! Also, you might want to add insightful or helpful information instead of saying you should buy from me instead of dell.
     
  50. CoffeeShark

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    easy there, killer. when your first post on a forum is "come buy from me", or even "check out my shop", people tend to question you a little. that's your doing. you say you come to share info and contribute, so contribute.

    tell people why they need to upgrade their bios on the 1029, which ram is compatible and which isn't, why certain rams don't work on it, why certain latencies aren't supported, which version of the b/g/BT card actually works, which wireless card has the best range, why it's necessary to use thermal paste on the 1029 when it's not necessary on other models, how to fix the white screen of death on other MSI models, blah blah blah.

    that's what people here expect out of MSI resellers. it's not a great place to sell laptops. Everyone here is very quick and will sometimes know things about your laptops before you do. especially pharoke.
     
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