MSI GS70 Stealth Pro Theard

Agreed Crysis 3 is the killer. That's what I've tested all my vbios's with. I've got my pen drive today to may try at lunch to get a very low voltage vbios with clocks as close to stock as possible. Higher men clocks do increase heat so I leave these at stock and increase them with Afterburner when needed.

 

Aye, this card it will give you more performance, it is a very capable one, the only problem is the more it gives the more heat it generates, we need a water cooling solution for it when we are not on the go, really, there should be a company out there which can supply such services for laptops with such performance, I wouldn't mind spending 250$ on a cooling solution for the laptop if it is on a desk, but on the go I will need battery more so less performance is not an issue.

 

Very good, I noticed that you C drive has a huge capacity, which SSDs are you using and which capacity each?

 

Oh believe me, I have seen someone complain about the 337.88 drivers that they generate more heat, one of my friends who owns a GTX 690 had heat issues with those drivers, when he updated to the beta ones 340 the heat issue just gone, so I decided to do the same and yes indeed while playing FF14ARR it went from 93 to 89. Same for Crysis 3 with high settings, it was going to 94, with beta drivers it tops 92 and hovers around 89-85.

Again, it also depends on the game, I played dead space, the heat is just around 82 with 69% load on the card, go try crysis 3 with high settings and see the load on the card as well the temps, you will know it is the game that is sucking the life out of the GPU!

 

I upgraded to 3x500GB Samsung 840 mSATA drives.

 

Thanks! Fully updated now!

My MSI Gaming Center displays the CPU temperature but not the GPU one. It only says UMA where the GPU temperature would be. Any tips on how toget it to display the correct temperature?

 

I would defo pay for that. I bet these cards overclock well with an overvolt and sufficient cooling!

 

Thats because intel's integrated graphics are working, when system switches to nVidia GPU the temps will be displayed.
Just run a game in a window mode and you'll see temps listing for the GPU as well.

I made the same mistake initially as well.

 

You can run GPUZ, and then click on the ? icon on the right side, then run the rendering test which will activate the discrete GPU.
And then you can use the utility to monitor.

 

I'm glad to see the thread is still pretty alive.
I've read the first 14 pages and this last one. Not all pages because.... well... TL;DR

I'm interested in buying a MSI GS70 2PE Stealth Pro (which would be -290NL model in my country)
290NL = i7-4710HQ - 16GB RAM - 2x128GB SSD - 1 TB 7200 RPM - GTX 870M 3GB

I need a laptop because I'm starting a new study (IT Service Management) where I would need a pretty powerfull one (they set the minimum at i5 and 8GB RAM, but the faster the better). It has to be able to run multiple virtual machines at a time for educational purposes.
However, I would not be buying a gaming laptop if I didn't want to game with it. I want to be able to play games like "League of Legends" or "Guild Wars 2". Also regular multiplayer games because, for example, I would take my laptop to friends to game at their places. If I would want to play high-end games like Crysis 3, I'd do it at home with my desktop (i7-3770K@4,3Ghz - 16GB @2133Mhz - 2 x GTX 680 4GB in SLI)

Now you can see why I need it, but I'm still not convinced if this should be the one. I'd bothers me that it "only" has 16GB of RAM and would never be able to upgrade to 32GB. Virtual Machines do use a lot of RAM. Besides that, stories about the temperatures and such are holding me back.
If I'd buy this model, it'll be one with a unused mSata slot. I would want to make it SuperRAID 2 myself by buying a third SSD. I already mailed MSI if they could tell me what SSD model they use, for me to try and match it when I buy a new one. Still waiting for a response.

I'm not sure if there is going to be new hardware releases soon, because I could wait till September when my study starts. Would be nice if a newer version comes out.
However, I doubt that will happen, so can you convince me to get one, or not?

 

If you just want to play League and GW2 and such, then you should probably just opt for the 860M version, then you would have 0 heat issues. 16 GB is about as much as you can get in such a thin chasis, unless you go for a fatter laptop capable of 32 GB.

 

If you want more RAM in a thin format the only laptop I see is Gigabyte Aorus X7. It comes standard with 16GB but can accommodate up to 32GB.

GPU temps will still be limit though, and the laptop is overkill to run games like League of Legends - although tbh no existing laptop graphics is really overkill if you consider the long run...

 

Hey guys I'm wondering if anyone has the same issues as me:
My GS70 Stealth Pro wobbles a bit. both the top left and bottom right feet don't really touch the table at the same time so it can wobble a bit. Is this a motive to turn it in for warranty? It's a brand new laptop, 2 days old, I find it weird it's a bit wobbly...


And my RETURN key also has a hard time being pressed sometimes. Is it a niggle or a flaw also to be fixed?

Thanks!

 

I don't have any of those problems on mine. Its actually the most very sturdy compared to many other laptops.

 

Mine did that a bit so I just, when opened I pried a bit on the the bottom part hands on each side mine was just not touching on the front right so I did a pried / torsion type movement, ever so lightly not hard to brake anything inside.

 

I want to thank ModRQC for his great guides he has provided. The repaste and vbios guides really did help with my temperatures. One other thing that i think we all should talk about/look in to is modifying the fan tables. I am someone who does not mind the fan noise at all and if i am able to increase the fan speed for certain thresholds I would more than gladly do it.

Does anyone have any idea what the default fan curve is or if there is room for improvement? Is this something that Svet's tool is required for? If the standard fan curve prioritizes low noise then I'm sure making them more aggressive would lower temps by a few degrees.

 

I think someone mentioned further up the posts that the fans are not actually controlled by the GPU bios. As such this would need to be modified via an EC firmware mod.

I have just repasted my GPU and CPU with Coollaboratory Ultra. This has finally sorted my overheating issues. The temps still eventually go up to 93c but settle to a more than satisfactory 90/91c and a 888 gpu clock and 2900 mem clock. I have used the bios mod with a -50 undervolt

 

Would you care of trying the bios I posted a few pages back it's the second bios I posted I think it's gtx870m2 page 55 for my gs70 it's very stable temps never go over 87 like in tomraider2013 over one hour on the ultimate setting. Just to see as I am getting the same performance as you but with lower temps. settings are 901core clock 2700 mem and 875mV power mid to high overall P71xx and mid to high P72xx grafix in 3dmark11.

 

What do you mean by bleeding? Is the display broken or it does have some sort of crack? If so then it might got damaged during transportation to you, return it with warranty ASAP to have it replaced if that is the problem.

If it has dead pixels, that is a different story.....

 

I will give your bios a try and let you know. Another Alternative is to set the temp threshold to 90C using a progrem such as MSI afterburner. This then allows you to use normal clocks of 967. once the GPU hits 90 it reduces the clock to 888 which then reduces the temps to around 85 to 87c.

 

I prefer to have an overkill over FPS drops. I just want to play max settings at full fps.
I like the looks of the MSI GS70 2PE Stealth Pro much more than the Gigabyte Aorus X7. Besides that does the MSI have a decent soundsystem in it, which I can't see at Gygabyte.
But thanks for the advice, I'm going to check out some more about the Gygabyte probably.

 

Sound on the GS70 is better than average for something so thin. It does have a sub woofer which does its job. Plug a pair of headphones and and its a different story. Great sound, great bass.

As far as frame rates go, crysis 3 35fps, watch dogs ultra (no mods) 30-35fps, tomb raider 40+ on top settings. All these games are cutting edge and probably the most taxing today.

there wont be many games over the next 2 years which the Gs70 will struggle with.

im sure the Aurus is sli configuration so will always be better than single. only concern i would have is the heat. The Gs70 is bad enough with one card never mind two.

 

Aorus cooling system is more robust than MSI's, but the model with the 765M sli was already getting quite hot. If Gigabyte bought the Kepler version of the 860M you can bet your a*s it will suffer from temps even more. If they are smart though they bought the Maxwell version, and that could actually be more thermal efficient than the 765M.

 

I've actually read through the Aorus X7 v2 thread and people have confirmed it is the Kepler version of the 860M. Guess temps are going to skyrocket. I just don't understand why manufacturers cannot update their motherboards for a few hundred bucks to support Maxwell.

 

I don't know is this is normal but my gs70 when fan starts normally then at 87 degrees the video card fan stops then restart from slow to fast very strange it should not stop at all at those temps, that is in win7 and win8?

 

I'd say flash your EC Firmware.

 

Perhaps they would have done it in another situation, but they just had launched the first Aorus when the 8xxM came around... you can be sure that right now they're "recycling" boards intended for the first edition to make v2, and cutting costs as much as possible.

I can't even begin to understand how they could be stupid enough to release the original with Nvidia refresh just down the corner. It was okay to build the 765M prototype for props at CES, that was necessary to gain attention, but Gigabyte should have went ahead with the Nvidia refresh in mind for the official release... What was waiting for another month or so anyway, MSI had already captured the thin and light opportunity for 2013-2014, it was too late to try and steal that show. And even worst is the fact that because of this poor timing, Gigabyte had to delay their refresh with the 860M, and MSI was once again master of the trade for over a month with the new GS.

 

Just another thing...

I seem to remember a lot of people searching for a brick replacement for the GS70. I seem to remember people talking about a Dell adapter, others ordered from MSI directly (100$ for 150W, 130$ for 180W), and I think someone said that the Razer adapter was a fit too (150$).

I just wanted to point out it was quite easy to get them.

The exact original one is model ADP-150VB B by Delta, and you can get it for about 60$ either on Ebay or Amazon. If you have a look at the picture, same shape and size and everything.

If you want a 180W brick, just look for ADP-180HB B instead... when you'll find it, it should be indicated as a fit for MSI G Series. Amazon has another brand, UpBright, and it looks quite cheap and bulky, but still is supposed to be a fit for G Series. EBay on the other hand sells the original Delta one, and it looks like it's the same shape and size as the 150W unit. Still goes for about 60$...

EBay reseller for both is of course located in the USA, and has got an excellent reputation for being speedy and not messing up with anything.

I'll probably go for the 180HB soon enough. I'll keep you posted.

 

Is it this one? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Ori...=1404181682&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=ADP-180HB+B

Thanks

 

Very useful information for forum members, thank you.

 

How can I stop the SteelSeries and Sound Blaster windows from popping up everytime I start the system?
I want Windows to start the software, just not show those windows every time...

Thanks

 

It annoys me too. I sometimes get steel series crashing. I tried to have them start minimised but that doesn't stop it.

 

Is this something that happens only to GS series? I don't think such an issue has ever happened to my now old GT60.

 

Post the photo, I don't have any lights coming from outside the screen, there might be a problem with the panel case not sealed properly.
The CPU fan is actually very quit except on intense processing....take it to warranty for them to have a look.

 

Im not sure that one says ADP-180HB D where as this website lists ADP-180HB B

Delta ADP-180HB B AC Adapter,19V 9.5A Delta ADP-180HB B Charger

 

So I should buy that one right? It's even cheaper, thanks!
**EDIT**
Watch out! That one has a 4 pin connector!! Similar to the ones used by Clevo and AW.
I think I read somewhere around here that the Asus adapters were a perfect fit for the MSI GS70 so the one I posted is probably the one to get if you're in europe.


I'm having an issue that is ruining my experience so far. It's not the GS70's fault, but Windows.
I hate mouse acceleration, and Windows 8.1 has it constantly on all the time. I can turn it off using some registry key editors and the mouse will feel great, but they also kill the acceleration on the touchpad and that makes it completely unuseable...
Is there any way I can have ZERO mouse acceleration but still keep it on the touchpad?

 

I Think I have found more on the bios mods they way I was doing it was taken from a post here earlier but it's not working as I have the temps down to a nice 87 max on any game but the fan is not responding as it should with the settings went back to the original from MSI and now it's all working as is. So I will gat back to testing.

 

Hey guys.... What the hell is this?



Artifacts already!? My notebook is 1 day old.
My first GS70 Stealth Pro was bought a week ago. It's chassis was crooked and wobbled when set on the table.
Today I went to the store and I got a brand new one! After about one hour of Battlefield 4 it did this.
I even had a cooling base and the notebook didn't even feel that warm.

The previous GS70 I had held up with no issues to my gaming. this one I'm not so sure...
Should I return it again!?

 

Have you done the BIOS/EC/Driver updates for the whole system?
Have you disassembled the heatsink/vent? If yes, check again to make sure it's tight and secured.

 

Looks like 3D! Mental

 

You are right it looks like 3D mode on the game.

 

Looks like 3D but not really 3D... lol.

 

As for the VBios mod I have been playing a while with mine and was making changes to the modded one so I started with the last msi one and modded it then modded the modded one and so on and at some point meshed up the fan / power or something and the card as soon as it would hit 87 the fan would stop and restart. So I re flashed with the msi one and it's all good now and will have a go at it again my goal is to have a stable temp and clock speed with proper benchmark.

 

Looks like a poorly connected video cable.

 

Yes,they were all updated, as well as all of the drivers.
Didn't open the laptop once yet. As I said, its 2 days old right now.

It only happened after 1 hour of gaming. Today it hasn't happened yet, but I didn't have time to game again

 

What about VGA BIOS?
If the problem happens again, then best to exchange it.

 

Does your fan mod require a temp table to be set? This is interesting. I haven't mod mine but I use pherein's older tool to write the registers that contain the fan table and adjust the fan speed. After testing for a while, I opted for high fan speed as soon as 70s/75s degrees hit, to ensure good modulation when gaming.

 

I say try it a bit more. If we can find the issue then you won't need to return it. IF the issue is found and it needs to be replaced, better do it while you can.

It does look like a loose connector and it gives off the impression of 3D mode... how odd. How are temps on your machine while gaming?

 

Yeah I also took care of that. I got the vBIOS from the MSI website.

Any idea on how to try it out? I've been playing for the past half hour with no issue.
Las night when it happened I had no idea on the temps, but the notebook was cool to the touch, even the top left side wans't so hot. I have a Zalman NC2000NT cooling base and it does it's job wonderfully



Here's a video showing how it was when I got back to windows:

The noise is from the notabook cooler.

 

You say that it got back to normal after rebooting, and hasn't happened since? When it happened, was it only when playing and it randomly showed the screen that way??