MSI GS70 Stealth Pro Theard

Has anyone installed anything other than the default RAM? I'm curious if bumping up to Corsair, Crucial or Kingston will net much of a performance increase. I leaning towards no.

And I'm also considering rolling with the stock 098 mSata drives or going the 099 and using two 250GB Samsung EVOs. Leaning towards the EVOs, but wasnt sure what the stock mSata drives are for the 098. Wish they would just say.


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I changed the ram before with the Asus (stock to Kingston), nothing but a waste of money. It gives you a premium feeling yes, but nothing other than that.

 

The make of the RAM is not a concern.

The *amount* of RAM can make a difference if you use your laptop for certain things.

For instance: my G70 has 12gb of RAM by default.

Personally, I do lots of video editing/work and I can use as much "system" RAM as I can get ...

Therefore, I will be upgrading my system RAM from 12gb to 16gb in the very near future...

Otherwise, if you have no specific, work related need?, you can get by and do just fine with 8gb in regards to a gaming machine ....

...

 

8GB is typically enough for most of usages, so unless you do video editing/graphic design/some CAD/data crunching then you will need more RAM.

 

For RAID 0, I don't need all same drives right? I currently have a single 500gb and 1TB Samsung 840 msata and was thinking of getting another 500gb to do 2 or 3 drive RAID 0.

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I was under the assumption that identical drives are required, but perhaps that's changed?


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Did a little research and yes its preferable if you have same make, model & whatnot but still possible to mix & match with some possible drawbacks. Guess if I decided to go RAID 0, i'll just go with 2x or 3x 500gb.

 

Hello all,

I just got my Stealthpro-024 today from Microcenter after selling my Alienware M18X; it was just getting too damn heavy. I got an open box for $1425.00 after a little bit of haggling. I was very surprised to find that it was in mint condition after opening it when I got home.

It's a great laptop but my only complaint is how terrible the track pad is. I would never use the track pad while gaming but for general use it is quite terrible, is there anything that could be done to improve it?

Also, how many mSATA connectors does it have? I watched a Stealthpro review and disassembly video on Youtube and it showed three. Are all Stealthpro's configured the same way when it comes to mSATA connectors?

 

I've read other similar comments about the track pad but I personally don't find anything bad about it other than the track surface is a little "rough" or "textured" feeling. Otherwise, it works like any other track pad I've used; it's accurate, responds to tapping well, etc. What problem are you finding with the track pad, specifically? Perhaps you can update the laptop firmware or the trackpad firmware? Perhaps ensure your drivers are up to date?

Other than those last suggestions, unless there is some obvious mechanical issue causing it to malfunction, I can't think of anything else in s far as solutions.

And regarding mSATA slots ... you should have three mSATA slots. The main two are very easy to see. The last mSATA plug is directly to the left of the two main slots (if looking at laptop innards with fans at top). On mine, the third plug was covered by a bit of that grey plastic that is used to cover certain components inside the laptop and had to be lifted away to expose the mSATA plug. The three mSATA slots were a major selling point for me as you can build a wicked fast x3 drive RAID 0 array ...

Enjoy your new laptop ...

 

I don't know but it just is too overly responsive/sensitive for my liking. Even with disabling tapping, the two and three finger clicking and the edge swiping features it still feels wonky, that's all I can really say. I can't explain it, it just doesn't feel very fluid as other track pads I've had on previous laptops.

The lack of separate buttons from the track pad is also a HUGE negative.

As for your suggestion I will have to see if there is a newer firmware.

Thank you very much sir, I am extremely happy to find out that the Stealthpro does indeed have three mSATA connectors. I will definitely be purchasing two more to build a sick Raid 0 array.

 

x3 512gb RAID 0, here ... close to 1400mbs but usually tests Crystal diskmark around 1350mbs ...

 

Good lord!

 

so jealous, stupid me should of bought 3x 500gb 840 EVO's from the get go instead of doing 500gb & 1TB and then buying a 2nd 500gb to do RAID 0 3 wks later

 

Having talked about the track pad a bit ... I decided to actually use it for a while to form a better opinion ...

It tracks fine and all but I've found that actual "tapping" ... as in a light tap to select an icon or something ... doesn't work and I actually have to press the trackpad down until I get a physical click in order to select something.

Do other owners trackpad function this way or can you do the standard, light tapping motion to select something.

Just curious...

Thanks

 

Tap once - single click.
Tap twice - double click.
If it's not working as expected then perhaps some settings needed to be adjusted such as sensitivity.

 

Thanks ...

And yes ... I knew about the tapping and how many times to do what and all ...

But for some reason, my pad wasn't reacting to a "tap" ... and I had to actually physically press the pad down to engage a "click" in order to select some thing the way a "tap" would typically select it.

No worries now, though ... I removed the Elan software, updated the track pad firmware and re installed the Elan software and the pad works with "tapping" now.

And for what it's worth, I think the pad functions just fine compared to other track pads I've used; only thing I find a bit unusual is the coarse, textured surface.

Thanks again for the reply

Joel

 

Has anyone had issues with the GS70 overheating? I'm worried that having the high temps like this is going to cut down on the overall life of the pc. I'm coming from a GE70(pre-Apache) that's running in the 40-50C range for the GPU and CPU while gaming and am concerned at seeing temps nearly double.

 

My GPU stays pegged at between 75 and 80C at all times when playing things like Dragon Age: Inquisition and Alien Isolation ... both pretty stressful games ... and I'm not worried in the least about the life of the GPU. My temps are well within the thermal limits specified by the card maker and so I don't stress over it. Further, if you do get too hot (I think above 90C) then your card will self throttle until it's within spec...

So unless your just losing massive performance due to throttling (not likely) ... I wouldn't worry a bit about it.

Best,
joel

 

Thanks Joel! I appreciate your insight into this!

 

When I open up my GS70 to build my 500GB mSATA SSD x3 Raid 0 array, I think I am going to recompound my GPU and CPU with Arctic Silver.

 

Just making sure, and so the utility changed the sensitivity which is adjustable.
Have you attempted to adjust it? Or you are fine with the generic function of the touchpad?

 

I've been having sporadic BSODs on my GS70. After some experimentation, I've found a simple sequence of steps that allow me to reproduce it (almost) every time.

1- Sleep or Hibernate the notebook. Then...
2- It may already BSOD after resuming or...
3- It resumes just fine, but if Windows is rebooted, if till BSOD while doing so.

It appeared to be driver-related, and this is what WhoCrashed reports:

So apparently it's the Wireless' adapter that's causing the issue. To confirm that, I've simply disabled it on Device Manager, and I haven't been able to reproduce the problem anymore. Great to confirm the theory, not so great as a definitive solution.

Any ideas on how to fix that / anyone else has experience the same? This is on Windows 8.1, I've tried both Killer's network bundle on MSI's website and the latest ones on qualcomm's site (1.1.48.1376) but they don't solve the issue.

 

I havent had BSOD following resume after sleep, but I have had a weird 'non boot' state, where the fans are on high (ish), the power button is amber and the screen is blank. Happened twice, both after sleep. I may have unplugged the power during shutdown. Rebooting it was fine. No crash reports or any kind of error message. Haven't been able to reliably reproduce it.

 

Thanks for your reply. The BSOD is definitely gone by disabling the Killer Wireless, and I'm now experiencing basically what you describe, only with the screen shows the Msi logo rather than being completely blank. For me it's fairly easy to reproduce by hibernating the laptop and powering it back on after a couple of minutes. It usually takes two or three rounds but it eventually will happen. There are no useful crash logs, no memory dump or anything I know how to use to diagnose the problem, only a vague Kernel-Power message on Event Viewer labelled as critical saying "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly."

I've tried a fresh install of Windows 8.1 and even Windows 7, with the same result, no matter if trying straight after installing Windows or after installing the latest drivers. Also ran Memtest86 and Windows' own Memory diagnostic tool without finding anything. I'm running out of ideas at this point unfortunately.

 

Where can I find a good ICC profile? Mine is a GS70 2PE Stealth Pro with matte screen.

Thanks!

 

S1rrah posted a few a while back. Check his posts in this thread...

 

I suspect the issue is occurring before any logging is switched on? Im very out of date with this, but before the modern equivalent of POST? Weird whatever it is, fortunately ive not had any more instances. Could perhaps have been a borked windows update? And any number of other things...

 

Guys I'm getting ready to do a clean install of Windows 8.1 and I can't for the heck of it understand the deal with the LAN/Wifi/Bluetooth drivers.
On the MSI page there are 3 links: One from Kiler and two from Intel.
I downloaded the latest versions from StationDrivers, I got bluetooth 17.0.1403.438 from Intel, wlan 17.13.2.2 from Intel and then the latest Killersuite, am I missing something?

 

It seems to happen right before showing Windows lockscreen. Don't think it's a Windows update, seems it also happens on clean, bare, Windows 7 and 8.1 installations. I'll see if I can run a trace using WPT (Windows Performance Tools).

 

Hey ... late getting back ...

The pad was not reacting to "tapping" at all ... adjusting sensitivity did nothing regardless of how sensitive or not sensitive I made it. It only reacted when fully pressing the entire trackpad down until it clicked; I didn't know you could do this but you can. The entire trackpad can act as a "clickable" physical button ... and not just the lower left and right.

Once I removed the Elan software, the trackpad once more functioned normally ... allowing me to lightly tap it and thereby select things; but I found without the Elan software installed, I could no longer use the FN key to disable it.

So I updated firmware and re installed the Elan software and lo and behold everything worked fine; I could still lightly "tap" and get a response (not just the full downward press and "click") and the FN key once more enabled/disabled the track pad entirely.

Worked out good.

Best,
joel

 

I've attached the two main .ICC profiles I use in the .zip file below; I use both depending on what I'm doing. There is a README.TXT file in the zip explaining the differences.

Enjoy.

Joel.


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I had the very same issue with the Killer network card; this has also been discussed at length on another MSI forum.

The best way to handle it is to install the suite (which, unfortunately installs the driver *AND* the Killer Suite software that handles their "bandwidth management" ... and according to many users, it's the Software Suite and not the *driver* itself that causes all the BSODs.

The way I handled it was to leave the Killer card enabled in DEVICE MANAGER, install the entire Killer suite and then, go to CONTROL PANEL > ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS > SERVICES .... and completely disable the "Qualcomm Atheros Killer Service V2" ... this essentially disables the offending software suite but the killer driver will still load and work with the network card just fine ... this way you can avoid having to totally disable the network card in device manager.

Some users at another MSI forum also posted links to a .ZIP archive that contained just the driver an not Killer Suite Software but I could never get it to work and so used the above described method which works just fine.

I've had zero issues since using the above fix.

Best...
Joel

 

Have you verified the version difference on the system and the website?

 

This is an older problem from the past which should have been resolved already.
You can also download the latest version and try it to see whether the issue exists or not.

 

may anyone please post me a fan profile for the GS70 2QE?
The Fans ramp up really hard even when its not necessary.

 

I didn't really pay attention to differing version numbers ... I just downloaded the latest firmware (from MSI's site) and the latest Elan software, also from MSI's site ... and re installed everything and it worked. I figured something had just gotten out of whack somewhere and as is so often the case, removing and re installing everything fixed it.

Also ... regarding the Killer wireless problem ...

Oh yeah, I used all the latest stuff from both MSI's site and also Qualcomm's downloads section ... always had issues with the Killer software suite ...

This is the thread at MSI I was referring too ... and your right ... it was a good bit back but I still had issues with all the latest software downloads from Qualcomm Atheros .... things ran perfectly once I disabled the bandwidth management software in Services and allowed only the driver to load: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=178064.0

Best,
Joel

 

Re: the fan ramping up ... I had the same issue for a little while and isolated the problem as one of MSI Afterburners monitoring functions ... had to go through all the monitoring options in MSI Afterburner and disable/enable to find out what was triggering the fans... also at the same time, the power button would turn orange when the fans ramped up, indicating that the Nvidia card was being activated even during idle moments and so I knew something was going on as the power button light should always be white unless your doing something involving 3D rendering/gaming ... once I disabled certain monitoring options in MSI Afterburner, the fans quit ramping up during idle times and now the power button is always white (meaning the laptop is using the built in, Intel display adapter).

When I game, the graphics handling switches over to the GTX 970M and the power button turns orange ...

FYI: for those who didn't know ... Nvidia Optimus tech should be handling the switching display adapter automatically, turning graphics rendering over to the Nvidia card when doing 3D/gaming intensive tasks and then switching back to the Intel Display adapter when just doing windows desktop functions like web browsing, emails, word processing and the like. The MSI G70 Stealth Pro will show you which display adapter is being used by changing the power buttons LED light color: White for using the Intel Display adapter and bright Orange when using the Nvidia GTX970M ... pretty neat tech. If your power button is orange during typical idle times or when just using the Windows desktop then something running in the background is causing the Nvidia display adapter to be engaged; for me, it turned out to be a certain monitoring setting in MSI Afterburner.

Are you running any programs like MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision X?

 

Hello guys, may this machine gpu or cpu throttle under heavy games and long uses with gtx 970m ?

 

I have the new GS70-099 970m and have yet to see any type of throttling while gaming: Diablo 3, WoW WoD and FFXIV ARR. Also did a bunch of benchmarks when I first got the system and everything pass with flying colors.

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No throttling here, either ... temps stay around 80C even after three or four hours straight of Dragon Age:Inquisition ... I don't think your going to see throttling unless your going past 90C ... personally, I've never even come close to 90C ... pretty impressive cooling for such a thin machine (the efficient 970M helps a lot too) ...

 

Guys I'm having an issue with MSI's Recovery System and my RAID-0 array.

I'm getting an Intel Rapid Storage error about my RAID-0 array's health and I'm trying to format it, and turn the raid array off and on but the system recovery isn't giving me that option.
I also did all my backups onto the other internal 1TB drive and I'm wondering what's the difference between "Hard Disk Recovery" and "System Partition Recovery". Will the first one erase everything from both disks?
How can I dismout and mount the raid-0 array and still go thru installing windows with no issues? MSI has no phone support in my country so I can't ask them.

thanks!

 

I believe you have to boot into BIOS > Advanced to mess around with the drive array. Have you tried that yet?

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Yeah I guess. But should I just use the Burn Recovery tool to create a recovery usb drive, then rearrange the RAID array and use the F3 recovery function from the bootup to install windows from the same usb drive?

 

Well for the process of deleting the RAID and re building it ... I think all you'd need to do is re start and hit "CTRL-I" whenever the RAID bios message came up ...

As far as the F3 recovery process, I'm not sure as I never used Win 8.1 ... but I'm pretty sure the recovery partition is on the 1TB mechanical drive and that all you'd need to do is point to the newly created RAID array as where to recover the system ...

 

Okay so I managed to repair the RAID array (even in the BIOS it was marked as failed) by recreating it, losing all data on those drives.

Before that I created a recovery usb drive and am now booting with it into the System Recovery menu.

I clicked SystemPartition Recovery (since I still don't know what Hard Disk Recovery means and I don't want to lose any of the data on the other 1TB drive) but I got an got a "Reagentc.exe set OS image false" error. I then proceeded to physicaly remove the 1TB drive from the notebook and trying the recovery again, this time on Hard Disk Recovery, but getting a different "Reagentc.exe set RE image false" error.

What can I do? Should I fit the 1TB HDD back into the notebook and try the "Hard Disk Recovery" option? Won't I lose any of the data?
Or do I need to get a fresh copy of Windows and do a clean install?

Thanks!

 

I wanted to move to a raid0 on 2 new ssds. Mine had the hd recovery built onto the ssd it came with, not the hdd. The hdd was empty. The recovery dvds i burned failed and during recovery/install process (from backup dvds) it wipes the existing drives before installing onto the new drives. So when it failed, i had nothing to revert to oh well, live and learn...!

You cant choose (as far as i could make out) to install os onto a drive(s) other than the recovery drive if you select hdd recovery. You can only install to your new raid drive either using recovery usb/dvd or windows dvd. If you choose hdd recovery it will try to install to the drive the recovery partition resides. You cannot select your destination drive using this method. I ended up buying win 8.1 64 bit oem and installing that. It didnt prompt for the key, so am assuming it read from BIOS. I might be able to sell the disc on again to friend /family member as i guess as the key is essentially unused...?

NB - my experience only! I possibly balls'd something up

Good luck

 

Thanks man. Yeah... Live and learn...
Thankfully i have access to a genuine windows 8.1 professional thru my college so I'll be installing that now, we'll see if it prompts for a key.

It doesn't make any sense to me that the recovery partition is inside the raid0 array! Why out it in the drives that have the most chance to fail and are probably the ones most people will messing with...

 

My recovery partition is on the original mechanical drive that shipped as the secondary drive in my G70 ... I thought this was how all G70's were ... the original 128gb SSD was simply the system drive and did not have the recovery partition.

After I installed my RAID 0 array ... the mechanical drive stayed where it is and still has the recovery partition ...

Odd that your recovery partition would be on your RAID0 array ...

Hmmmm

 

It's only logical since the primary purpose of recovery partition is to restore OS in events such as virus infection, or deteriorated OS without the hassle of needing recovery discs.
Any hardware failure can possibly set anyone back with a non-working system, which cannot be rescued by any recovery method.
Anyhow, it is highly recommended that you create a set of recovery discs using MSI BurnRecovery utility for emergency use.

 

Hey guys, i am thinking to purchase this model with 3gb GTX 970M seriousy. Before purchase i am sorry but i really cant be sure if that laptop throttle or not. I dont think this laptop will get over temperature but Throttling become due to various laptop handicaps, for example TDP limit. For that reasons; is it possible for this laptop owners to kindly please may they upload some screenshots of HW info software graphics in a heavy game after playing at least 30 minutes? I need the graphics of:

1- Cpu temperature
2- Gpu temperature
3- Cpu Clock
4- Gpu core clock
5- Gpu memory clock
6- Gpu core load
7- Gpu D3D load
8- Cpu Load

This will clarify everything and people will not hesitate buying this ultra thing great performance laptop, with me.