MSI GS70 Stealth Pro Theard

I've attached an .TXT file (zipped); you can open it with any text editor to view the data (just be sure "word wrap" is turned off so the data is easily read from left to right).

The data is for nearly an hour of playing Dragon Age: Inquisition as well as Crysis 2; Crysis 2 saw the highest GPU temp, hitting a maximum of 85C. Dragon Age max temp as 82C. At no time was the GPU throttling during the test.

Hope that helps

View attachment StealthPro.1Hour.zip

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Oh yeah ... for what it's worth? I was playing with the G70's lid shut since I was using an external monitor and full sized keyboard. The G70's main cooling intakes are on top, above the keyboard and so you could probably subtract 2 to 3C from that data if playing with the cover open... worth noting. I didn't think about that until after gathering the data, otherwise I would have played with the cover open as I'm sure the temps would be better with it open.

Best...

 

Having the same issues on the 2PE.
Mostly the fan on the right. I am not talking about gaming, just when I am using the PC in general for watching a youtube video, reading documents etc.
The fan ramps up too quickly when the cpu spikes for a few seconds. I've been looking for custom EC firmware to solve this issue but I am yet to find it. It should only start spinning when the temps actually rise, don't know if that's possible to achieve this on the CPU side though.

Can be annoying to have a loud pc when studying or doing productive work. The fan on the left ramps up because of the hard drive. You can set hard drive idle time in energy profiles. Once it goes idle the noise will stop.WIsh windows had an option for less than one minute though. In reality it can be a few minuts and prohgrams like Steam and Word trigger the secondary drive so it starts spinning again for a few minuts. As I said can be very annoying doing productive work and yet to find a solution.

I thinkI've spent over 200 hours researching all this but no luck yet. I don't really care about the GPU use during gaming itself. Either wear headphones or the game music will be louder than the fan noise. Just want it to be quiet when doing actually work.

The frame of the pc and the screen have been bent a little (was already this way upon receival). Also the bottom of my screen cracked a little and opening and closing the laptop makes crackling noises. The screen is also shaky because of the combination of the non straight laptop and the metal being broken/bent on the bottom. I bet my model had some quality control issues because this is not normal. Especially the frame being bent on the right.

Alread wrote several emails etc to MSI support to address my issues (first one middle October). Also sent one to the belgian facebook page and support (I am from Begium).
They have replied to none and they didn't have a support call number for my region last time I checked. Don't know how I can even get any support for them for these issues at this point and has been a very frustrating experience to be quit ehonst with you. Does anyone have experience with their support?

Also battery makes a pretty high pitch noise when laptop is not plugged in and the screen is bright. Don't know if other people have that. Have yet to find threads about it.

Other issue that started around the time when the screen metal bent, the right speaker takes 2-3 seconds to start playing audio. Did not have that at the start. Does anyone have similar issues?

Was wondering if you had any experience with these issues. And what you might have done to solve them. Especially the CPU fan on the right and the hard drive activating on the left. Or does the 2QE version no longer have these issues?

First EDIT: JUst read that you have Triple SSD so you removed the harddrive then?

 

I'm looking at getting one of these to replace my 2013 Razer Blade Pro (giving it to my gf).

Can anybody tell me how the Stealth Pro compares to the Blade Pro in terms of build quality?

I know that it's obviously more powerful, as it's rocking a 970m. Does it ever overheat? I'm not talking in terms of comfort, but in terms of actual "could possibly be damaging the hardware" levels of heat.

How's the keyboard? I do use an external mouse, but I find the Blade Pro's keyboard to be just great for typing.

Thanks in advance!

 

Dear S1rrah,

Thank you for your kind effort, i will investigate your attachment as soon as possible because i am on mobile for now.

Does anyone play Dayz Standalone with 970m version of this laptop? If yes may you review it for this game? is it possible to play Dayz Standalone with 1920*1080 and nearly max graphic settings without dropping fps below 30 including cities?

And my another question is i can buy gt72 dominator pro but its thickness and heaviness scare me because i like playing game in my bed with my laptop on my knees, so will it be a mistake buying gs70 instead of gt72 fır such games dayz standalone and arma 3?

 

My temps (CPU/GPU low 70s - mid 80s) while gaming are awesome compared to my last laptop P35X v3 (CPU 80s - low 90s GPU 70s - mid 80s) and the CPU doesn't throttle like the P35X.

Keyboard is fantastic and doesn't feel crowded.

Build quality is pretty decent but not as good as P35X or MBP.

I also believe if the P35X could housed a 980m and cool as greatly it does, so could the GS70 but that's me.

Fans doesn't bother me with or without my headset on while gaming.

-Sent from my Galaxy Note 4 using Tapatalk

 

Dear S1rrah,

Hi again, i have looked at your system monitoring.

Your Gpu core run at 540 or 1540 mhz, why? And we need cpu clock speed to understand whether trottle or not.

Thanks.

 

Not sure why PrecisionX was reading the core that way ... for some reason it was only listing half of what the core was running at ... so, effectively you could just x2 the 540 for a core of 1080 ... I know it's right cause no way could I be playing on High and be getting the frame rates I'm getting ... must be a bug with precision x ... and I don't think PrecisionX/RivaTuner can monitor CPU clock speed ...

BTW: you could just look at the CPU temps and no that the CPU is certainly not throttling since throttling, in regards to both GPU and CPU is dictated by temperature ...

I'll try and find a more accurate monitoring tool and get back with you ...

Best,
Joel

 

Dear Joel and GS70 owners,

Sorry for taking your time but i really need those pre-buy information. Thank you for your efforts. You can use HW info software ( HWiNFO, HWiNFO32 & HWiNFO64 - Hardware Information, Analysis and Monitoring Tools ) very easily create graphics about everything when you are in game. The graphics are very visible and descriptive. And you need a really hard games for the test. I firstly need the unoptimized game Dayz Standalone if possible, if not possible any hard graphics game that stress cpu and gpu will be fine. You can easily select the parameters i have listed below and take screenshots if possible. Please keep in mind that most of the throttling dont become due to temperature. Although the temperatures are very good, cpu or gpu may throttle due to TDP when there is a really hard work needed that stress cpu and gpu at the same time.

1- Cpu temperature
2- Gpu temperature
3- Cpu Clock
4- Gpu core clock
5- Gpu memory clock
6- Gpu core load
7- Gpu D3D load
8- Cpu Load

Thank you very very much.

 

Hey ...

Well I don't have DayZ and don't really care to buy it cause I can't stand Zombie games.

;-)

But I did take your suggestion and install HWiNFO64 and I used it to create a .CSV log file of the statistics you wanted while playing about 45 minutes of Dragon Age: Inquisition and also about 40 minutes of Metro: Last Light ... Metro Last light stresses my system about as hard as any game I can think of and so the data should be adequate...

I've attached the .CSV file, in line, below. I couldn't figure out how to make charts out of the data but if you know how to take a comma separated .CSV file and read it then have at it.

Over the entire 1.5 hours .. in a 21C ambient room?

Thermal Throttling: NO
Max GPU clock was: 1037mhz
Max GPU memory clock was: 1252mhz
Max GPU load was: 99%
Max GPU temp was : 85C
Max CPU usage was: 65%
Max CPU temp was: 85C

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There is other data present there so check the .CSV file out via whatever means you have available...

But according to HWinfo, there was no throttling of either the GPU or CPU ...

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Here is the file; again, it is a comma delimited CSV file ... it can be opened in MS Excel and Open Office Calc and the like:

View attachment G70_1.5_hour.zip

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Also ... just as an aside ... this is the first time I've actually played continuously for nearly two hours using the Stealth Pro's stock LCD screen; typically, I use the laptop at my office and with an external 1080p monitor ... but since I did this test after getting home, I didn't feel like hooking things up to an external monitor and just used the laptops stock screen ... and man, what a screen!! I'm just blown away by the brightness, the contrast and overall bleed free quality (I use a custom .ICC profile).

I had a Gigabyte P35G v2 for about five months before this Stealth Pro and it had a 15.6" IPS screen. Between the two, IPS or no IPS, there is no comparison. The 17" Stealth Pro Screen is *far* more immersive, *far* more bright and has way more "pop" than did the P35G v2 IPS screen. The P35G was much more accurate, having none of the sort of "cool" cast of the Stealth Pro's TN panel, but in games? The Stealth Pro stock LCD screen just blows away the P35G v2 IPS screen ... no comparison in regards to gaming and immersion.

I played about an hour of Metro Last Light and the visuals and frame rates at MAX settings were just ridiculously good.

Best laptop I've ever used.

Not just pimping, either. It's *that* good.

Best,
Joel

 

This is probably a dumb question, but the model I'm getting has two 128 gb flash drives (ssd is the correct term I think? no idea) as well as the 1tb SATA drive.

What are the two 128gb drives for, exactly? I had somebody tell me once that you get a ssd solely for the OS, and you put games and stuff on the bigger hard drive. Is that accurate?

 

I would assume that if your model came with two 128gb solid state drives, what you call "flash drives," then it would have those two drives configured in a 256gb RAID 0 Array.

This means that Windows would see your x2 128gb solid state drives as a single 256gb drive. And data throughput will be, roughly, about twice what it would be to a single 128gb solid state drive (RAID 0 is exponentially faster as you add more drives to the array).

I know that probably sounds confusing as all get out ...

But do some viewing on RAID 0 arrays here, at the following Youtube video (it's pretty simple, but accurate): HERE

That's as simple as I can put it in my current, inebriated state ... but...

Trust me. It is a good thing.

LOL ...

 

To clarify ...

Even though your machine ships with two 128gb solid state disks? Once you boot in to Windows, you will only see a single 256gb main, system drive (probably your C: drive) and if browsing the system in Windows File Explorer for instance (that would be your two 128gb drives configured in a RAID 0 array) ...

That means things are going to be real fecking fast.

It's a good thing.

;-)

 

Awesome, thanks man! So I guess I'll just put whatever games I want to shorten the loading times on onto the ssd.

 

Hi, thank you for your great effort, you have done it and most probably you have clarified if that model throttles gpu or cpu due to temperature or TDP limit. I said "most probably" because i am not a laptop system master, but your test is the most important information for me about this model. I have created graphics attached based on your database for people who want to see.



The other infirmations that you gave about LCD screen is really important too.

Have a nice gaming and see you again,

Regards

 

If y ou have games that you want to load quickly . .. then yeah, install them to the C: drive (your RAID array) ...

 

Okay ... fair enough. thanks for the graphics...

 

uh .... thanks?

 

Speaking of the TN panel, I'm very impressed with it after coming from the P35X v3 3k IPS lcd that was flawless and an Asus 24" 120Hz at home.

-Sent from my Galaxy Note 4 using Tapatalk

 

For just gaming? This TN panel is the . Really good ... super "poppy" and super bright ..

 

My pleasure...

 

Yeap, gonna try out your ICC profile that you posted previously and TYVM for it.

-Sent from my Galaxy Note 4 using Tapatalk

 

Can you compare this gs70's tn lcd with an IPS laptop screen ?

 

I had a P35G v2 15.6" IPS screen before this 17" TN screen ... I really didn't like the anti glare coating on the IPS screen ... it introduced a really noticeable brightness/contrast shift when moving viewing angle vertically ... very strange.

This 17" TN screen seems much more legible, text looks better, more clear and overall ... I think it's a far better gaming screen than the 15.6" IPS ... I might prefer a 17" IPS screen over this TN but haven't used one ... just that particular IPS screen I used seemed small, even though technically I think the IPS had a better color reproduction than (any) TN panel, really. But for gaming? I def think this TN panel is better than my previous, smaller IPS screen...

 

On my 2PE there is also a high pitch but pretty silent sound coming from around the GPU area on the left. The noise only occurs when you turn the screen brightness down. On full brightness it is not present.
I was able to make the system run completely silent besides that one thing. CAn you also hear that sound when ou put brightness down (plugged in power cable).

It also happens when the laptop is not plugged in. However, in that case it is the opposite. The sound starts occuring the more you make your screen brighter.

 

It sounds to me like you are getting a bit of "coil whine" through capacitors in either the GPU section or the monitor section of your hardware as you adjust the LCD brightness; coil whine is fairly common in electronics although I've never experienced it myself. You can read about it hear (general overview): COIL WHINE

I don't think there is anything you can do about it short of living with it; if it's *that* annoying, you could attempt to RMA/exchange it with either the vendor you purchased from or directly via MSI.

But no, I don't hear it in mine ...

best,
Joel

 

Coil whine is considered normal for a lot of electronic appliances, this includes AC adapter, power supply, etc.

 

is the only difference between the Stealth Pro 099 and the 097 the extra storage in RAID 0 on the 097?

 

Yes ... 097 has x3 mSATA drives configured in a RAID 0 array ... not only is this extra storage ... it will be about three times as fast as a single 128gb mSATA ... totally worth the expense if all your looking for is 350gb of SSD system space. Blazing fast RAID 0 array with x3 drives ...

 

I actually just looked it up and it seems like the 098 is RAID 0, but the 097 is the red one and it's RAID 2?

 

Sorry for the late reply. I seem to have found what was causing the problems on my case: I was forgetting to install Realtek's High Definition Audio driver from MSI's website on my clean Windows installation. I never thought it was important because Windows installs its own drivers for it so it didn't stand out on Device Manager. Knocking on wood, but sleep and hibernate have been working fine for a few days now. I didn't even have to get rid of Killer's network suite nor disable the wireless driver or service.

 

Oh wait, you're right. It's RAID 0.

I went ahead and changed my order from the 098 to an 096 because the 098 wouldn't get here for another week, and the 096 will be here friday. And it's only a $200 difference for 500gb more of SSD space 0).

I'm a little worried that the red is going to look really obnoxious, but whatever. For that kind of performance, and the ability to put my whole steam library on the SSD, I'll live with it.

I'm so excited!

PS - I've read that RAID 0 has some major risks of data loss. Is that exaggerated?

 

They would both be RAID 0 ... one might employ x2 drives in a RAID 0 array while the other uses x3 drives in a RAID 0 array but they would both be RAID 0 (which simply means that you are writing data across two or more drives simultaneously with the speed of the array growing exponentially as you add drives ...

There *are* other flavors of RAID ... RAID 1, 2, 3, ...5 , etc. ... but the MSI computers all come configured as RAID 0 arrays which is the flavor of RAID which is solely concerned with speed ...

Here's some good reading discussing the various RAID levels: RAID - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Best ..
Joel

 

never seen IPS matt .. i have IPS glossy and screen is beautiful .. like u would have retina display .. bcos retina is just IPS made by samsung...
no chance that text looks better on tn
u had old kind of ips..
try open lid on max and check..
ips is brighter and better whites

 

Blazing fast x3 drives ...
WELL
I have purchased 4x 256GB SSDs so I will create Quad RAID 0 that will be not blazing fast BUT Ultra MEGA blazing lightning FAST

 

Oh no ... I totally agree. IPS/PLS is way better visually and regarding color reproduction (especially whites!) than any TN panel I've seen. I have a 27" Samsung PLS screen on my desktop (PLS is just Samsungs proprietary version of IPS) ... a S27850D and no TN panel I've ever used, including the 24" Benq TN gaming monitor mounted next to it, can even come close to it's colors and text performance ...

I think the P35G v2 also had technically better colors than the Stealth TN panel ... I mean just for imaging work and the like, but for whatever reason the 15.6" screen just looked so small ... even compared to other 15.6" screens I'd used ... and like I said, the matte coating was really weird ....

And re: x4 SSD's ... if you can somehow manage to mount four of them in a G70 Stealth, then yeah ... it will be stupidly fast ... I might add that if you plan on using an adapter to mount the fourth SSD in the space where your mechanical drive is, be absolutely sure the SATA interface on the motherboard that is used for the mechanical drive is SATA III ... it may well be SATA II which would hamstring your x4 drive RAID 0 array since all the mSATA interfaces are SATA III ... and therefore the three SATA III ports would be required to operate at the speed of the SATA II interface ... something to check out ...

Best,
Joel

 

I have adapter SATA to mSATA ...
Come on maan you living in year 2014 .. there are no crappy SATA II anymore..
And every person here, that own this laptop, believe that their (even your) 1TB what is installed in machines is SATA III ...
just check your Inter rapid storage technology software in windows click on it check yout 1TB hard drive and you will see it is SATA III
SATA II is discontinued man this laptop has chipset HM 86 ? can't remember number properly and it only support SATA III

But anyway .. I might wait longer and MSi MIGHT release version with IPS screen... THAT would be AWESOME

 

I only mentioned it as when I was researching laptops, I found out that the latest laptops from Asus, the G751, does indeed use an SATA II motherboard interface for the mechanical drive. The mechanical hard drive, itself is most likely SATA III but if your running that SATA III hard drive on an SATA II motherboard socket, then that hard drive is still only going to operate at SATA II speeds. It was discussed all over that thread here at this forum. Never really checked on the Stealth Pro as I only wanted x3 drive RAID ...

Didn't know I could check the interface in Intel Rapid ... but I think what that software is referring to when it says "6gbs" is the drive capabilities, itself and not the actually motherboard controller that interfaces with that drive. Which is to say, sure, the hard drive itself is an SATA III hard drive ... just like the mechanical drive that ships in the Asus G751 is an SATA III hard drive ... but also as with the G751 ... the controller mated to that hard drive may indeed be capable of only SATA II speeds ...

Very curious ... I'm going to check with some of the MSI forums as I might go x4 drives as well in the near future ... ... need for speed and all ...

Best,
Joel

 

Just all SATA in these new laptops are SATA III .. nothing is SATA II ..
here is intel chipset specs. HM87 ARK | Intel® HM87 Chipset (Intel® DH82HM87 PCH)

 

Guys I found alternate display that could be changed with this old TN for IPS !!!
I been searching on internet and I have found LG IPS screen which shoud fit in this MSI GS70 2QE laptop !
Screen in laptop is Chi Mei N173HGE-E11 and potential replace screen is LG LP173WF4-SPF1 !
Found this on laptop screen site .. here is comparsion : Panel Specification Compare - Panelook.com
Screen has much better contrast 700:1 vs Msi 400:1 ... It has same connector type same size etc.
And I found laptop which is equipped with that IPS screen : Lenovo Y70 Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews
Here are viewing angles : http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/753446-lenovo-y70-thread-3.html#post9759483

 

If I'm reading correctly it isn't anti-glare. If I'm right that sucks since I need anti-glare but great find. Will wait on others to see if worth getting down the road. TYVM!

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even glare is fine ask ppl who owns Lenovo Y70
i have ips on my v7 and it is great screen


guys can anybody check this site if it is not scam ? they selling that IPS screen



http://www.nbkit.com/Wholesale-laptop-LP173WF4-SPF1-LCD-screen-17.3-inch-1080p-IPS-eDP-1_c80113.html

 

That is indeed interesting ... if it actually turns out to be a fit ... then I will most likely get one as well.

Thanks for the info...

 

MSI GS70 screen replacement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnobCJi1wLs

The connectors are bit not on same place but some extended cable would solve it ...


Chi Mei N173HGE-E11/L11 - Planel





LG LP173WF4-SPF1 - Panel

 

I have a spacebar issue, the key dont register i can resolve it without RMA?
I have no idea how i can remove a spacebar without damage a keyboard???
Excuse me for my poor english

 

call msi they will come into your house ..

 

Not sure if you are serious or sarcastic

 

I'm having some weird issues with the USB ports on my 2QE running Windows 8.1. The physical ports on the left side of the laptop seem to work as expected, but the ones on the right side seem pretty random when it comes for USB3 devices to actually work in USB 3.0 superspeed mode, tested with several devices including external hard drive enclosures and memory sticks. This is the expected behaviour when connected on the left side, with USB Device Tree Viewer showing a memory stick assigned to Port 17 and flagged with an S indicated SuperSpeed, as it should be:



If I plug it in on the right side instead, it's usually assigned to a HighSpeed port instead (but not always!):



Interestingly enough, latest Ubuntu seems to behave the same way, according to kernel's dmesg messages.

Tried resetting BIOS values to optimized defaults, no change. Also messed around with all combinations for USB settings I could find on BIOS setup, no luck. BIOS version is E1773IMS.106

Any pointers would be appreciated.

 

@episode96
bad drivers ?

 

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