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    MSI GS70 Stealth Pro Theard

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by charliex3, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. stamar

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    what is the source of the gs70 with the free carry case and sleeve?

    ive found the gs60 one but cant find it with a free case yet. the gs70 pro with a free case thanks in advance.
     
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  2. Nyceis

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    Just wondering what the screen quality of this is....Long time Alienware user ready to make the switch to a thinner, lighter PC, but I do like a high quality screen....
     
  3. byunjoe

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    Check your local/regional supplier. Here in Korea preorders come with a notebook bag and sleeve as shown in the above video.
     
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    The screen is of a very good quality. For comparison I did compare it with an Alienware 17 in college the other day and it looks nice, a little more than the Alienware in my opinion.
     
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    It depends on your region but in my region (Asia), it comes with both bags and even a mouse too. Do check with your local supplier
     
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    Hi guys! I came back to share my thoughts again (after using it for a couple of days). Basically, I am impressed by its quality. The quality of the screen is nice, since it does not differ much from my IPS DELL screen. It is sharp and covered by an anti-reflective layer. To be honest I prefer matt screens since I had soo much pain caused by the glare.. The colors are vivid and the screen has a great angle of view.

    Temperature under heavy load: The laptop gets hot under very heavy gaming load... After 2 hours of play I felt that the computer is hot under my hand (near the wasd buttons) I touched the top left of the computer casing and it was bloody hot. I cannot argue with this, because a slim gaming notebook will never be cool like a macbook during internet searching..... If the computer does not die, it is fine for me! I also installed my Adobe lightroom, and it is super-fast compared to my previous laptop. The colours are great as well!

    Cheers, Bence
     
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    Hello expig,

    Thank you for sharing your experience with this fabulous machine!
    Can you tell me how is the battery life when you are just surfing the web, writing some docx, watching just a few youtube clips, etc?
    In this kind of light use, how is the noise? Would you consider silent as a MacBook for instance?

    Thank you in advance.


    Best regards
     
  10. pr0cl1v1ty

    pr0cl1v1ty Notebook Guru

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    I've had mine for over a week now, I got mine from MSI GS70 StealthPro-024 17.3" Full HD Gaming Notebook Computer GS70 STEALTHPRO-024.

    However I love the power and beauty of this laptop. If anyone has any specific questions towards me, I can make videos or anything you want. Just shoot me a PM.

    On powersaving mode with screen all the way down, just web browsing i only get about 2 hours of battery. Not even close to 4-5 like others say.
     
  11. emmagine79

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    With powersaving mode on and just web browsing i get about 5 to 6 hours. Crazy for a gaming laptop but fantanstic nonetheless.I don't know why you're getting less battery life though
     
  12. emmagine79

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    When surfing the web and doing light tasks i get about 5 to even 6 hours on power saving. When doing simple tasks like web browsing/ doc editing it is silent and in the Macbook range of quietness. It does get really loud when gaming though cause of the fans/hot too so there's that
     
  13. joco

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    finally i can also order now on in my country, (they popped up in many stores now). Its the 128+1TB version so i want to order 3x250GB (samsung evo) right away.
    But now the question is, is it still really mSata? or is it M.2 ?

    (in M.2 there are not that many choices yet)
     
  14. SteckDEV

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    Can someone answer these questions?
     
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    arkham Notebook Consultant

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    I don't have it yet, but as for #3 I know you can have up to 4 active displays, 3 external monitors plus the laptop display.
     
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    I was wondering if either XoticPC or GentechPC plan on carrying the GS70 StealthPro-024 model? I saw the GS70 with the 870m, however it's the more expensive model with the 6GB 870m and 3 SSD's.
     
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    That's the first I've seen that specified. The MSI rep in the GS70 video I posted earlier confirmed a total of 4 displays, 3+laptop (@ 4m50s mark):

    I notice that the picture on the Dragon Army page now shows the laptop closed in front of the 3 Matrix displays. :) I'm sure it was open before, or in another pic on the regular MSI product page. It's possible that they changed the specs over the past couple of weeks.


    EDIT: Looks like they most likely changed the specs since the rep filmed that original product video. I found this elsewhere in this thread on the MSI Dragon Army forum:

    The GT series, however, offers 4.
     
  20. mateo5

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    I'm sooooo screwed! !!! I ordered this machine last weekend... major buying point was the 3+1 monitors, already shipped and cant do a return as my sister in law will be in ny and bring it back to me (I live in dominican republic and this was a one shot operation :(...) no turning back! I just hate last minute changes, I did my homework but failed miserably at the end.

    Go figure! >:,(

    Enviado desde mi SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 mediante Tapatalk
     
  21. SteckDEV

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    I wonder if part of the limitation is the processor only lists you can have 3 displays. However the graphics card itself can support up to 4. I wonder if someone set it to always use the graphics card and be able to use All 4 displays. (someone will probably come out with a hack).

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 870M - NotebookCheck.net Tech (4 active displays)

    ARK | Intel® Core™ i7-4700HQ Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.40 GHz) ( 3 active displays)
     
  22. Meaker@Sager

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    MSI get around the limitation of the HD4000 series by attaching ports straight to the dGPU, therefore you can add extra outputs. This also means that those ports do not use optimus which is great if you need to use professional software that does not get on with it, you would likely be using a nice big external display for that work anyway.
     
  23. mateo5

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    I really wish someone comes with a hack, I bought mine for that single reason... aorus x7 does 3+1, I Went with the gs70 because is a single card laptop but I'm starting to regret my choice.

    Enviado desde mi SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 mediante Tapatalk
     
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    Right, forgot to reply with temps etc before :p

    so on with. Just for informative reasons so your temps may vary a little, my room temp is currently 27 (stupid sun/good insulation)

    I tried a variety of games, some stress one part, some others (no synthetics because they do not show real world usage). stuff from World of tanks/diablo 3 to Thief.

    GPU, this can and will hit 90C when hard pressed, nothing one can do about that but the cooling works well enough, you can see the temp drop drastically once you stop gaming and within 20 seconds (apart from the case) the temps will be back down to normal.
    I've not seen it go above 90 yet though, it may well do but during my longest session I forgot to check.

    The case does get hot, for me I can still touch it, however do not touch the exhaust ports right after finishing your session, most people will probably find this too hot. The left hand area gets warmer then the right hand side (gpu/cpu locations), so the warmth creeps down on the left side, but it's not excessive (my opinion).

    The fans turn off when idle (assuming nothings hot!) so the CPU idles around 45/50C due to this, you can probably get an after market product to make the fan always spin - I personally don't see the point. Under light use the fans will spin at about 3000 RPM which is barely noticeable noise wise. Imagine a soft breeze in the summer.

    yes it makes noise when gaming, but thats what headsets are for :p

    Now I'm actually going on holiday, however if anyone has anything specific they want me to check let me know and I'll try and get it done over te holiday - but I'm not promising jack :p
     
  25. crazyb24

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    Had the same issue. Tried installing different driver but the issue did not improve. Unfortunately had to return the laptop because I wasn't sure if it was a design issue or a driver issue.

    Were you able to correct this issue on your laptop?
     
  26. jamesoth

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    Just signed up to reply and help fellow owners.

    I got the same error too and couldn't solve it with reinstalling of original drivers, beta drivers and update of directx12. Always crashes in 3dmark 11. Cant survive further than the 3rd benchmark.

    Saw on MSI forum that someone had the same problem as me and the administrator suggested a return.

    I returned it to my local retailer. Luckily they had a new set for me to exchange. Out of the box installed 3dmark11 and it crashed before reaching first scene..... laptop wasnt plugged in. After plugging in the power adopter, 3dmark11 ran smoothly all the way to the end!

    Brought it back and stress tested it, looped benchmarks for an hour. Played games for 2hrs. no issues so far.... Happy man.

    So your best bet is to return it and get a replacement.

    And is 3dmark11 only able to work when plugging into power?
     
  27. fragglesrock

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    Can anyone confirm what Wifi card is installed and whether it supports ac please?

    Local suppliers seem to be fuzzy on the subject.

    thanks.

    F.
     
  28. crazyb24

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    What concerns me about you experience is that it needs to be plugged in to function properly. Not that I will be gaming with this laptop on my lap while using the battery, but it indicates that there may be a design issue. The laptop should be able to run correctly using only the battery.
     
  29. ModRQC

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    It's quite normal on the contrary to need the AC plugged in when gaming, and just as much so when benchmarking. The battery on this is not powerful enough to allow both the CPU and GPU to reach their limits. First, jamesoth said that he couldn't go further than the 3rd benchmark ; if I remember correctly the 4th benchmark in 3D11 stresses the CPU quite a lot while still keeping strain on the GPU, and the 5th benchmark drives both to hell and back - synthetically speaking. So... But even crashing on the first benchmark isn't so surprising, depending what was happening in the system at the time.

    You can't really game on battery, it'll eat it up in no time, no matter what kind of laptop with dedicated graphics we're talking about. Usually, unplugged means the system will do it's best to keep the power draw to a minimum, and a battery can only do so much, and that gives bad performance at the least, and may easily crash the game. Or benchmark. One can even argue that the 150W power brick that comes with the laptop is really borderline to feed that system properly. Start Prime and Unigine at the same time, and it will be running overload... bad things will follow. :)

    Just got mine, btw. Will post soon with my assessment of that thing! :D
     
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    Yes it absolutely is.
     
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    Lol... First impression : very thoughtful from MSI to include this nice Utilities CD with THIS particular model... :D

    They'll knock it out of the park when they'll include a thumbdrive instead. Which I'll format just about instantly, after a quick browse.

    The rest of the package is just... about perfect.
     
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    Can someone who has the Stealth Pro post a 3D Mark Vantage result screenshot? Would be helpful to compare to a few other models.
     
  33. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    We got one set for me to do a video review on tomorrow. I may be able to get it started today if I can finish up the GS60 Ghost Pro with time left in the day. I'll post the Vantage scores as soon as I can get it ran. Tomorrow afternoon at the latest.

    Edit: The GS70 isn't a Pro, just the GS60 is.
     
  34. arkham

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    Finally!!! Great! I can't wait. I'll be refreshing my YouTube app all morning.
     
  35. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    We'll get it up as soon as possible. The GS70 will probably take a few days to edit and post. I'm not going to do a full review of the GS60 Ghost Pro since its really just like the non pro except the hardware and we have a full review on that posted. But I'll post the 3D Mark Vantage and 11 scores here in a bit as soon as I got them done for both models.
     
  36. arkham

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    There's enough GS60 material out there. Focus on the GS70 Stealth Pro. :)
     
  37. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    Oh I take it back, only have the GS60 Pro, the GS70 is not pro :(

    Got you guys and myself excited.
     
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    I hate you.

    (Until you get the GS70 Stealth Pro review up. Then we're good.)
     
  39. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    Thats fair, I deserve it.
     
  40. arkham

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    Nah, you've always been helpful.

    But now you can help even more . In the GS60 thread I just found out the Stealth Pro does not have the good IPS-like display, but a basic TN screen. Can you confirm this? What is the other screen option you guys offer technology-wise?

    If the Ghost Pro has the better display, I'm going to have to do some soul searching. Damn. I thought this was clinched.
     
  41. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    :thumbsup:
    Closing up the office right now, but tomorrow once we're back in I'll see if HWInfo will pick up the screen installed and let you know the make/model.
     
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    You might find this interesting. A comparison of the Stealth Pro vs the newest Ghost, released a day ago.

    MSI GS60 Ghost and GS70 Stealth Pro Gaming Laptops - YouTube

    About half way through, he mentions that both use the IPS display at about 2:40 mark.

    I would also like to see the make/model on the Xoticpc upgrades...since I have one on pre-order from them.
     
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  43. arkham

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    That's what I thought. So, something is not right here.

    Edit: Ah-ha, I saw that earlier today. Not sure I take that as gospel, but what did sound interesting was the bit about the GS60'S display interface. I have no idea about what he was hinting, but at least this is one more nod towards the 70 having the good screen.

    Aw hell, who knows. GENTECH, XOTIC someone help figure this out please.
     
  44. Nyceis

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    If you have a microcenter - go get one and you can see the same thing I did. It is a TN screen on the GS70 stealth pro (unless of course the reseller changes it). CMO1720 was the device ID on the one I had. I just took it back this evening. You can believe me or not, up to you.

    Also possible they source different screens like Dell, but I'd be surprised if they sourced both TN and IPS screens.

    N
     
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    Thanks! I appreciate your posts on this, you've been very helpful.

    I'm in Canada, so no Microcenters here. Everywhere that sells a GS70/GS60 does so on special order or online only.

    I'll just have to wait and see.
     
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    Looking at that panel right now, and it definitely is TN. Though I'll add it's quite beautiful, has good horizontal and poor vertical viewing angles. The texture of the matte is apparent, something reminiscent of both my Asus monitors on my PC. I remember I was appalled by this when I got them at first, now I don't even see it. Same thing goes for the GS, but I thought I'd mention it. :)

    I'm in Canada too btw. Ordered on NCIX for it was readily available to ship. Could have saved about 80$ going through CanadaComputers as they offer a somewhat 75$ shipping discount, but they're taking orders for the moment. I'm not a patient guy.. :D
     
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    GS60 Stealth Pro screen is: SAMSUNG 156HL01-102 which is reported to be a PLS screen, so it is the IPS type technology.
     
  48. SteckDEV

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    Can someone please tell me if they will be having a real (IPS) screen on ANY of the GS70 Stealth Pro models! Cause this is crap! I was so excited going to my MacBook IPS Screen and now going back to a TN 17" is not on the roadmap for me! Sorry MSI you missed the mark on this one!

    I'd hate to go for the GS60 Ghost Pro because I need 3 external screen output! But I guess USB 3.0 Display adapter is the better of the two evils in this case. Plus with the mentioned 870M atleast I don't have to compromise on the graphics.

    BTW does the GS60 Ghost Pro have better cooling since it has 4 places to output air according that youtube video mentioned (I didn't know if gs70 Pro had that)?
     
  49. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    What makes it "real" is licensing for the term IPS which is owned by LG. These screens could be the exact same quality and using similar technology but since they do not want to pay for the licensing cost to use "IPS" they will call it something different.

    We haven't seen any IPS screens in 17.3" yet regardless of the brand of computer, just 15.6"
     
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    So are you telling me that these two screen will look identical to each other as far as VIEWING ANGLE CLARITY and COLORS? Because in this video it jumped right out at me that they did look different from the viewing angles they shift throughout the review. Maybe Just maybe it is because one is the Hulk dark backgroudn but I think there is more to it than that.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q1oSagt52k
     
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