MSI GS70 Stealth Pro Theard

I installed Windows 8.1 from the original MSI burn recovery USB stick I made. One of the first things it wanted to do was upgrade to Win10. Since I didn't have anything on it anyway, I decided to go ahead with that. Windows 10 installed just fine, but afterwards it won't cold boot. Have to power on, power off, power on again, enter BIOS, make no changes, exit BIOS and it boots from the RAID array. I've disabled "Fast Boot" both in the BIOS and within Windows power settings.

Currently I'll be going through all the drivers that Windows installed and trying to do "Automatic" updates. Especially the Intel stuff and Disk stuff.

 

What's your current version of BIOS & EC firmware?
Can you take screenshot of your BIOS's main page? And System Information?

 

Have you considered a clean install of Win 10 instead? Now that you've done the upgrade, as long as Windows/Microsoft sees your product key is valid and activated in Win 10, you can do a full installation and it should automatically activate when you're online again. MAYBE that will clear things up.

 

Just an update on my MSI RMA process ... there's great things about the experience and some really concerning things about the experience ...

The great: it was all done incredibly fast; MSI Service Center in California, literally, only had my machine for one day. The entire process, from the time I dropped my machine off at FedEx until the time it got back to me (today), took 7 days total. The documentation that came back with my Stealth simply said "motherboard SWAP" ...

That's some stupid fast RMA action, man.

Furthermore, my system booted immediately and was exactly as I remember it ... x3 mSATA RAID0 array and everything functions perfectly and as before.

But now for the concerning part and the part I want some feedback on:

The CPU temps are *RIDICULOUSLY* high. I mean like "something is undoubtedly wrong with this machine" high. Even just booting in to Windows, as background apps and what not initialize, sees the occasional CPU spike of 65C or more. What's worse is that any application (nevermind "synthetic" stress tests) that pushes the CPU to 40% constant usage or more will have the CPU up to 85C within a minute. And just forget Prime95 ... a simple blend test in Prime95 had the CPU up to 95C within a minute and throttling was keeping the CPU down a full 1GHZ over it's stock speeds.

I've used this machine for 14 months straight, every day, in every sort of workstation and gaming scenario and CPU temps, even under extended Prime95 runs *never* broke 83C and never a hint of throttling.

So something is wrong. I personally can't imagine a bad paste job creating this sort of problem but then again, I have no experience with bad paste jobs, as Imentioned, I've always been super pleased with the thermal performance of the machine. But since they swapped the motherboard, this means they had to re seat the fans/cooler and so who knows. I contacted MSI RMA department and talked to a reasonably smart guy and he told me to go ahead and repaste if I was confident in the work necessary to do such (which I am) ... and that if that didn't solve the problem then I should send it back for another RMA (really, other than the obvious problem with the cooling ... the RMA process has been stellar).

Oh, and yes, both fans are functioning fine as far as I can tell by putting my hands over the vents and they sound like they are ramping up and winding down as they should ... so no chance of a disconnected fan connector...

So my questions to those of you more experienced than myself:

1. Do the Stealth Pro motherboards come with the cooler assembly already mounted or is it likely that they re used my existing cooling assembly? I ask this because the temps are so drastically bad and different than before that I've considered that if they put in an entirely new cooler, that something might be wrong with the fans/etc.

2. Can a bad paste job result in such atrocious temps? I mean, considering my temps before the RMA/MB Swap were super super good? I've already made up my mind to do the re paste tomorrow and so I'll be able to get a look at what is going on internally but for the life of me, I can't imagine a bad paste job being *that* bad. Hell, I've even thought that they might have *forgotten* to put paste on or something (really, the temps are that bad).

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Otherwise, the GPU temps are about the same, I think ... but I haven't done any extensive stress testing ... just a few minutes Furmark that saw a max temp of 75C which seems about right ...

Anyway, more later and I'll take pics once I get to the paste part ... but any comments would be welcome.

Best,
Joel

 

Not sure how to take a screen shot in BIOS (unless just take a picture with phone) but here is the info:
BIOS Version: E1773IMS.10A
EC Version: 1773EMS1 Ver 5.04

Took some time with it today and while in BIOS (upon first cold boot) noticed something: RAID was failed with Port 5 missing. Did the reboot and went back into BIOS and the RAID was A-OK. Rebooted the second time and it came up just fine. Still seems that there is something in the Intel drivers or BIOS that is not recognizing Port 5 for the SSD on the initial boot.

 

Considered it, I've never liked "Upgrade" installs. If I can't get this figured out this week then that will be my next weekend project. To download and create a "clean" Windows 10 installation media.

 

1) This is a thread hi-jack LOL
2) When you open it up, check that the fans are oriented correctly.
3) Good luck with the re-pasting!

 

They're outdated.
Latest BIOS is E1773IMS.10I (I is like Indigo), click here to download.
[ BIOS Update Instructions]

EC Firmware is 1773EMS1.506, click here to download.
[ EC Update Instructions]

 

I arbitrarily decided to go with the EC first (after all its done in Windows) and that fixed it! Kevin, you nailed it! Thank you. Now that my booting issue is over, do I really gain anything by flashing the BIOS?

 

Well done! And to answer that, definitely!

 

Ok then, a flashing BIOS we go!

 

Bummer. BIOS isn't seeing my USB drive. I'm using a 64GB USB three drive. I'll comb through and see if there is something else I can change in BIOS to get the drive recognized. Works fine in windows, by the way.

 

Use FAT32 so it can be recognized, don't use NTFS/ExFAT.

 

Ok, 64GB USB thumb drive only formats as NTFS/ExFAT. So put BIOS file on smaller, FAT32 drive, worked like a charm!

Thank you so much Kevin, you really nailed the Windows 10, after upgrade, problems I was having. I can now consider this a closed case!

 

You've done well.
Enjoy it!!

 

Has anybody had the problem of NOT being able to get into the bios? If I power down, hold down the delete key, power back up all I get is a black screen with a few pixels lit up. Will boot into Windows (8.1) but I can not get it to boot to bios. The SSD drives have been giving me problems (Intel Rapid Storage reports one of the drives has failed) so I removed ALL of them and it still will not boot to bios. I can't replace the SSD drives with new ones until I can boot into the bios.
I've opened a ticket with MSI since the laptop is still under warranty, but I'm hoping someone else knows if there is a way to flash the bios (perhaps it's corrupt) without first having to boot to the bios, as the instructions say to do.

 

Hold SHIFT key while doing a restart via power menu within the OS, see if you can get to advanced boot menu first, then choose to boot to UEFI firmware (BIOS).

 

Hi Kevin,

Thanks for the suggestion, but no luck:





Is there anyway to flash the bios from Windows or a DOS prompt? The instructions that come with the bios say to start the flash update from within the bios, but as stated I can't get there.

 

If you can obtain the necessary files, then you might be able to flash the BIOS from a pure DOS environment (not a command prompt). Unfortunately, I don't know the command line parameters, and it doesn't seem MSI offers the individual files on the model's support page for doing this.

 

There is but it's only available through Svet now since MSI wanted their users to flash the firmware in the BIOS.
Try holding the DEL key down immediately after powering on the system before you go to Svet's route.

 

Well, I'm back to square one with the booting issue! Let the laptop sit for a week, unpowered and when I set up for some gaming yesterday, it wouldn't boot. Went into BIOS and the RAID was faulty with SSD in Port 5 not being a part of the RAID array. Do a reboot from there, it goes into BIOS on it's own, and the SSD is now in the array. Reboot for the second time, and everything works just fine. Installed IOBits Drive Booster and it updated 15 drivers, mostly Intel stuff, no help there.

I guess I can live with it like this, knowing I have to get into BIOS twice to boot. It is embarrassing at LAN parties however!

 

Hi Kevin,

I've held the DEL key right from pressing the power button, even used the battery reset hole, let it sit overnight and boot while holding del, no luck. Is the "Svet" rounte to find FLASHWIN.BAT (with afuwinx64.exe, amifldrv64.sys), then replace the bios image with the bios for my machine E1773IMS.10I and update the bat file (afuwinx64.exe E1773IMS.10I /p /b /n /r /shutdown) to point at the bios image? Can I run this from Windows? Or do I need to make a USB boot with simple DOS environment. I got the files from this post by Svet: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184427.msg1323582#msg1323582 .

Thanks again.
Greg.

 

Hi s1rrah,

I feel with you man. Remember me, I had the same problems with Temperatures for CPU and GPU.
Your recent temperatures are sadly everyday temps for me.
If I just run half a test of cinebench my CPU goes up to 96-98 before it throttles down.

I sent my GS70 to MSI. They said it is all within range if it won't exceed 100°!!!
Almost 3 weeks I discussed everyday with a support manager to replace my mainboard because I'm sure I have a faulty CPU/GPU or cooling System.
They said, the can't replace the mainboard without any reason. So extremly high temps are normal for them!?!? They told me just to replace fans and heatpipe.
After I received my Notebook back, I immediately started some benchmarks and .... NOTHING changed.
It was all the same even they claimed, they changed the heatpipes and fans.
I repasted now 4!!! times, 3 before RMA 1 after RMA and the temps won't decrease.

Your temps before the RMA were like a dream to me, serious.
So I think, there are many different mainboards with the soldered CPU and GPU which are causing sometimes high and sometimes lower temps.
It seems you got a bad Mainboard and repaste will not change anything in a GS70 that's my experience.

Fortunately it's "just" the CPU for you.
My GPU is also throttling right after some benches and after reaching 87° within a couple of minutes.

That Notebook is like a nightmare to me since I got it.
I can't enjoy this device because I can't use the power I bought it for.
And I won't send it to RMA again for 3 weeks for really NOTHING. Only if they will change the mainboard I maybe send it in.

So I'm waiting for the release of new generation laptops this june and throw my GS70 away as fast as possible.

Again, If anybody have a solution or experiencing the same problem, please share them with us.

 

It's not too big of a deal ... theoretically, if the temps stay below the upper 90's then I think it's within Intel specs ....

That said, those like yourself who are wanting to milk every last drop of juice from their gaming rig, will no doubt take issue with the constant throttling. Personally, I only casually game on my laptop and only when at work (I have a beast desktop at home that is my serious gaming device). Otherwise, I use the Stealth as a music server to stream .FLAC files to my DAC over it's really swell optical/TOSLINK output jack and as a daily office work machine.

Further, just about all reviews will show temps similar to yours (and mine post warranty repair) ... and so I don't think any Stealth owners should be expecting too much bettter:

1. OC3D review ... CPU: 92C / GPU: 88C : "The thing that is perhaps hardest to live with, or rather demonstrates the inherent limitations of the design, are the temperatures. The weather at the moment isn't particularly warm and our offices are air-conditioned but we still found that after a brief run of a 3D test or game the Stealth Pro was in the 90s."

2. TrustedReviews review ... CPU: 96C / GPU: 85C : "At those temperatures, neither part could run at its full speed: the processor wasn’t able to use Turbo Boost to get beyond 2.5GHz, and the graphics core throttled to around 700MHz."

And that's just a couple ... but suffice it to say, upper 90's is par for the course with this machine.

Why my temps were so good before? I have no idea but I do know quite matter of factly that neither the CPU or GPU ever broke 90C/85C respectively during any stress test I could throw at them (in a 21C ambient room) and I never recorded any throttling. Not once.

So something happened during the MB replacement for sure ... just web browsing and what not for about 30 minutes will drive the CPU up in to the 70's and even once idle again, CPU temps never drop down below 55C or so (my pre RMA Stealth would idle around 36C daily and for over 13 months of constant office usage).

I'm hoping MSI can do something to help, but otherwise, I'll just accept it as long as it's usable and somewhat "gameable" ... I believe it's a simple issue of accepting the limitations of these extra slim machines as, across the board, they all exhibit the same issues regarding temps.

As an aside, I found a GT72 Dominator "open box" (970m version) at Micro Center this week for $1200.00 ... full warranty, full return policy ... and couldn't pass it up ... the temps on it are ridiculously good compared to the Stealth ... everything under 80C, easily and even during stress testing ... but it's a *cavernous* design compared to the Stealth.

When you buy a new rig, you will most likely just have to bite the bullet on the whole portability thing and get something with better cooling.

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My Stealth is back at MSI to have the heat problem looked at and I'll post some thoughts once I get it back.

Best,
Joel

 

Yeah, this package is perfect.

 

@ s1rrah

Yes you are right with your words.
I was really frustrated when typing my post^^

This machine is getting really hot and I understand this because the GS70 is very thin and light.
But I hate the thermal concept of the GTX 970m. At 85° the fans a horrible loud and in jetplane mode.
At 87° the GPU will lower it`s Vcore and lower the core speed. That will continue until the temps won`t exceed 87° anymore.
And sometimes you find the GPU at core speed 800Mhz instead of the 1038. Gaming performance than drop about 20% which is very much in my opinion.

But I decided to live with it until I find a better machine.
I`m not depending on a slim portable notebook so maybe the next device will be a bigger one with better cooling. ;-)

Yeah keep us updated in your second RMA case. I wonder if they will replace your mainboard.
I contacted MSI again and they told me, the critical temp is 100° everything below they won`t replace hardware no matter how much throttling :-(

 

I'm hoping to have the Stealth back this week some time ...

In the interim, I've been running tests on a GT72 Dominator, also with the 970m, and it's just night and day in comparison to the Stealth and in regard to temps.

30 minutes of straight Metro Last Light benchmark loops, everything maxed, and the GPU doesn't break 66C ... CPU occasionally hits 75C but mostly hangs around 70C ... and I can't even hear the fans at all. If I manually turn the fans to max, then the GPU quickly drops down to a max temp of 60C. Pretty amazing... and even at max, the GT72 fans are a nice low frequency "swoosh" sound and aren't really bothersome...

My next major laptop investment will certainly be something like the Dominator chassis ... I'll take the trade off on size to get that better cooling ...

I do love the Stealth Pro in regards to build, though ... it's really quite a beautiful bit of industrial design ... even with it's short comings in the temperature department ... pretty machine. The Dominator is sexy too but just doesn't have that svelte look that the Stealth has . ..

Anyway ... I'll update you when I get the Stealth back ... I highly doubt they will replace the mainboard ... I'm just hoping for an inspection and careful reseat/repaste of the CPU and GPU ...

more later...

joel

 

Yes I kept an eye on the GT72 too.
Let's see what configs will be released in a couple of weeks with new pascal graphics.

Btw. I have a strange Software related Problem with the Dragon Gaming Center.
Everytime I try to adjust the brightness with the fn keys my dragon center crash.
If I adjust the brightness in Windows or SCM it works fine. Just the fn arrow combos are causing crash.
Other fn combos have no issue.

I did a full reset to factory defaults but with everything updated drivers and apps this error occurs.
I guess it's a net framwork update within windows mabye.
Some people said, dragon gaming center must be installed as administrator.
Others said, the config file in application folder must be renamed.

If someone have same issues please post your solution

 

Got my Stealth Pro back from it's second RMA (due to CPU temps being completely through the roof after the first RMA/motherboard swap)

But the happy ending is that my CPU temps are about back to normal as far as I can see/test. Using my most severe synthetic benchmark, Prime95 "small FFT's" test ... after 20 minutes or so my CPU temps averaged around 90C and, the CPU was dialed back to around 2.7ghz, which, considering the nature of the test, is just fine. That said, this is vastly better than the CPU thermal performance before the RMA, where I would see CPU temps breaking 100C within 3 or 4 minutes of starting the Prime95 test.

And even though Prime95 throttles and maxxes the CPU at 91C ... I don't think any game I play is going to cause me near as much CPU stress/activity (though I could be wrong). I'm going to do more extensive GPU/CPU testing with gaming in the next couple of days but my hunch as of now is the machine is about back to where it was originally regarding thermal performance. This pleases me...

And from just a few brief tests, it would seem the GPU temps are fine as well. Running, generally, about 5 to 10C below the CPU temps.

According to the packing slip, MSI replaced a "USB ribbon cable" and a "fan" ... I'm assuming this last "fan" reference is the CPU fan as, like I said, the temps are WAY more appropriate now.

EDIT:

(Going to have to redo the Last Light loop test as I think I had a "shift" mode set wrong ...)


Also, after an hour of Witcher 3 on "high" settings...

CPU: max of 77C
GPU: max of 80c

So for that game, no throttling of either the CPU or GPU ... strange that

Test was done in a 24C room

For this machine I think that's perfectly acceptable; a bit of throttling on the CPU but none whatsoever on the GPU ... I can totally live with it.

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Otherwise, totally stoked to have the Stealth Pro back ... I got this particular GS70 about 1.5 years ago and it happens to have the original SteelSeries keyboard without the ridiculous "silver lining" keys. Sorry MSI ... but that bit is a miss. I've had a recent model GT72 for the past week or two and it has that new "silver lining" keyboard and it's totally bothersome because the LED outline of the keys *totally* detracts from the actual letter illumination. It's annoying as all get out~! The older SteelSeries KB like on my GS70 has all black keys and it's a WAY more attractive approach. For what ever reason, I also like the action of this older, SteelSeries keyboard that came with my Stealth Pro than I do with the late model GT72. I don't think it's imagination to say that this older keyboard has much firmer tactile action/actuation pressure than does the newer keyboard, which feels super mushy in comparison. I'm splitting hairs but the difference between the two keyboards is noticeable.

And the GT72 I've been using also only has a single 1tb mechanical drive ... and getting back to my original x3 512gb mSATA RAID0 Array with the GS70 is like manna from heaven.

So a happy ending. I really hope this GS70 holds up for another six months to a year as I'm *totally* going to upgrade the chassis on my next purchase. I positively *love* the GS70 Stealth physical/industrial design ... really, I've never been so pleased with a laptop form factor ... but it's a real limitation of this type of machine that when it comes to cooling, it's not the greatest. It's usable for sure and if everything is right, then you can hang with most other 970m machines (while just having to accept the occasional throttling) ... but my next mobile gaming rig is going to have the cooling of the GT72 chassis for sure ... and (crossing my fingers that it lives for many more years) I can retire my beloved GS70 to full time music server duty in my audiophile listening room, feeding a DAC at home cause I love the optical output.

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As an aside?

I had a truly perplexing experience with this second recent RMA that I will reserve for another post as it's truly quite perplexing. But, long story short? MSI claimed that I had damaged the internal fan headers/connectors and included pics and everything of the damaged parts (!!!) but the peculiar thing is that I'd never once touched any of the fan headers; scouts honor and all. And so I had to pay them $145 to get it fixed). But that is all for another post and I'm not bothered in the least (don't sweat the small stuff yo) and I have no clue how that happened but I gladly payed it as this is my only machine at the moment and I certainly don't want to stir up drama with them as I dig their machines and aim to stay an MSI customer (I honestly think they are making among the best gaming notebooks one can buy at the moment).

rock,..

 

So this is the official post RMA temp readings ... all tests conducted in a 23C ambient room.



30 Minutes Metro Last Light Bench Loop (Max settings)

Without 80mm fans over top air intakes:

CPU: 92C max / 85C Avg
GPU: 84C max / 80C Avg

With 80mm fans over top air intakes:

CPU: 85C max / 80C Avg
GPU: 74C max / 73C Avg

Those "max" temps cited above were simply millisecond spikes here and there. In general, the temps were always in the "Avg" area. Personally, I think those are pretty fantastic across the board, even without the addition of the 80mm fans over the intakes and it's safe to say that throttling of the CPU and GPU is simply not an issue. But I will say this, putting two 80mm fans over the CPU and GPU air intakes makes a DRAMATIC difference and if you use your machine like I do (daily and at a desk at work) ... there's really no reason to not use such fans. The Metro Last Light, especially with advanced PhysX enabled, becomes a real CPU hog ... most every other game I play is more in line (CPU wise) with the results shown below for Witcher 3...


One Hour Witcher 3 (High Settings)

Without 80mm fans over top air intakes:

CPU: 77C max / 70C Avg
GPU: 80C max / 75C Avg

With 80mm fans over top air intakes:

CPU: 71C max / 67C Avg
GPU: 73C max / 70C Avg

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So quite an ordeal having to send it back to MSI twice but I'm super stoked that temps are back to being about as good as one could possibly get out of this laptop.

Good job MSI! And thanks ...

 

Solved my "Turn on twice to boot" problem. Here goes: I tried everything suggested, updated BIOS, updated EC, turned off Fast Boot in both BIOS and Windows. NO help. Figured, well Win10 isn't working for me so back to Win 8. Did the restore from USB, said no to the Win10 upgrade. And same thing happens! Turn on/off twice to boot. Each time it goes to BIOS it shows that one drive (the one I replaced) isn't part of the RAID. After second turn on and into BIOS it's magically back in the RAID and will boot. I updated all Intel drivers that I could find. No help.

Late at night, I decided it must be a Win8/Win10 thing that I somehow broke with the re-installation of the OS. Started playing with Boot Modes (UEFI, UEFI with CSM and Legacy). I also played with Secure Boot settings. Some where in there it started booting correctly! Turn on and it seems to take a few seconds longer than before but it boots right up into windows. I get a screen that says "Please Wait" and then it finally loads windows. I suspect this delay is because I turned off Hibernate with command line.

I think Secure Boot is the root of most of my problems. But it's working now, Windows 10 is installed and it still boots just fine.

 

Don't you just love those weeks long troubleshooting sessions that make you lose sleep? I was halfway being sarcastic but more so serious as I love solving problems like that (but fortunately haven't had to in a while).

Congrats...

(I'm using Win 7, BTW and haven't had any issues; used Win 10 on the GT72 I had temporarily and it was pretty solid to tell you the truth but I could only deal with it once I installed Classic Shell)...

 

Well, turns out I was wrong. Had a LAN session yesterday, got to my destination, unpacked the GS and there it was, power on/off to boot. I really think it has something to do with the BIOS. Any tips on settings for GS70 and Windows 10?

 

Wish I could help but I haven't a clue ... I've really only used Win10 once and that was on that temp GT72 ... best of luck ...

 

Are you on LAN or WLAN (Ethernet or WiFi)?

 

Running WiFi. Problem seems to be that the RAID doesn't register as healthy until the power off/on cycle is done. Did it with Win10 and then when I restored my Win8 it continued doing it. Needs to be powered down for some hours apparently. I was turning it off, waiting 10 minutes or so and turning it back on. It seemed to work fine then.

 

Strange... You can try "Optimized defaults," but I doubt your BIOS settings are an issue. Secure Boot prevents the system from booting to external devices - you can leave this on or off (it shouldn't impact you in any negative way) - and UEFI should be enabled if you installed Windows in UEFI. You might want to consider contacting MSI, though; it's possible this is an intermittent hardware issue.

 

Next thing I was going to try was loading the "Optimized Defaults". Maybe something got whacky when I updated the BIOS. If that doesn't work then I'll contact my reseller and see if they will accept the job of installing Windows 10 for me (and setting the bios correctly)

 

Not to change the subject but still pimping the awesome job MSI did of correcting the CPU overheat problem on my Stealth ... (also, how effective the use of fans over the CPU/GPU intake can be) ...

This is a little video I made about 2 hours in to a Witcher 3 session ... I'm playing on all Medium settings with Textures set to "Ultra" and Detail level set to "Ultra" ... all the unnecessary Post Processing settings are turned off (Blur, light shafts, etc.) ... I've found these settings to look really good and also play a pretty consistent 60fps with the still formidable 970m GPU ...

I have the GPU overclocked (+35 core) and so the max boost visible in this video is 1172 ... I think I may have had the driver set to "adaptive" power which is why the core speed occasionally fluctuates ... it's certainly not due to throttling ...

Room ambients throughout are around 22C...

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I was all hot and bothered to upgrade to Pascal when the new laptops are released but the more I use the rejuvenated Stealth Pro the more I think I might just keep it for another year (g0dz allowing that it doesn't crap out on me in that time, that is) ...

I think Witcher 3 is pretty much the current GPU killer benchmark (perhaps finally dethroning Crysis 3 and Metro Last Light) and considering that ... I think the 970m should be really swell at 1080p for a good year or two more once you dial in game settings correctly ...

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Without the assistance of the two fans, the GPU temps in a 2+ hour Witcher 3 session will max at 81C and the CPU temps will max at 87C ...

The "day job"/office setup:

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I'm tempted to see if any of the boutique shops can put an IPS screen in it and will most likely investigate this in a few months if I decide to not upgrade.

Real curious to see what MSI does with this 17" super slim form factor in the coming months and what shape their new releases will take.

It seems to me they could greatly improve the cooling by keeping the same overall slim aesthetic while simply increasing the volume just in the rear and around the area where the cooling fans reside ... sort of creating a "raised" base in the rear that would not only improve cooling but also tilt the laptop at a nice angle towards the user at the same time ...

But who knows? And perhaps the Pascal laptops will run cooler by default ...

??

 

I own a gs70 with a 4th gen (Haswell) processor. I was wondering if anyone has successfully upgraded the ram to ddr3l 1866 or possibly even ddr3l 2133.
There's a reviewer on th "EGG" stating he was able to run gskill ddr3l 2123 on his gs60 pro. I don't know if there's much difference between the two.

 

Great news about your temps. I'm hanging on to mine until spring of 2018 at least.

Now for my update. I tried a BIOS defaults reset. Turned it off and unplugged it for half an hour. Plugged back in, turned on, NO bios screen, no need to power on/off cycle. Yay! But, I've been down this road before. Decided to turn it off and leave it unplugged overnight. Sure enough, next morning I plug it in turn it on. . .and wait. Have to cycle the power, go to BIOS before it comes on.

So, I'm going to try and send it to my reseller and see if they will take a look at it. I'm done.

 

BTW ... this is for those, like me, who purchased one of the first Stealth Pros that were available ...

I purchased my Stealth Pro-065 back on Nov 11 of 2014 ... I always thought the TN screen was pretty good but even with calibration, I could never get rid of the somewhat prominent blue cast that seemed to slightly color everything ... especially the greys, which, just always had a marked bluish tone to them.

Anyway, long story short ...

I downloaded and installed the MSI True Color application that comes with all the newer GS70's and the difference it made is literally, night and day. Once installed, suddenly whites are *WHITE* ... greys are *GREY* and there's zero bluish tone visible on the screen; it's literally like a whole new panel. I'm not really sure how they are accomplishing this but man, I just uninstalled it after running it for the past six months and I just couldn't believe the difference. I really should have taken a picture cause it was very drastic ... needless to say, I quickly re installed it.

Anyway ... if you have one of the older model GS70's, I'd highly recommend downloading the MSI True Color application and giving it a try.

Here is the download page: https://us.msi.com/Laptop/support/GS70-Stealth-Pro-GTX-970M-5.html#down-utility&Win7 64

Be sure and select your operating system at the top left since the link above is for Windows 7 64bit.

Just a tip.

joel

 

Okay ... so I went ahead and uninstalled the True Color app so I could take before and after pics ..

Pardon my using a cel phone but it's all that I have at the moment ...

In the following two shots, I used my Facebook profile page as it has so much blue in the interface and so much grey in the "negative space" ...

Also, pay careful attention to the main "banner graphic" at top because it is truly a greyscale image ... note how in the MSI True Color photo, the banner actually looks like greyscale ... and then look at how blue that same banner looks in the default panel without MSI True Color installed and functioning ... man ... the pics don't really do it justice because it's even more noticeable sitting in front of the screen.


Stock Stealth Pro-065 Panel / MSI True Color NOT INSTALLED
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Stock Stealth Pro-065 Panel / with MSI True Color INSTALLED
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Night and day ...

On the MSI True Color Image, it looks like there may be a bit of a yellow cast to the "negative space" areas on the right and left but that's just an anomaly of my cel phone camera ... it's actually perfect light grey in those areas. And the greyscale image actually looks like a greyscale image ...

Also, look how much truer to "grey" the Chrome interface tabs and such are in the True Color image. The non True Color image makes the Google Chrome interface, which is supposed to be grey, look light blue ... just crazy difference.

I couldn't get those results even with calibrating manually prior to using True Color ...

So check it out!

 

Also ...

If anyone needs one of the nice slim zip cases that MSI makes for the Stealth Pro ... PM me and I'll send you my extra one ... all I ask is money for shipping ($5.00 should cover it) ...

It's an oddball shape so if I can't find an efficient/affordable way to send via USPS then I'll let you know.

USA residents only, please ..

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Lemme know yo ..

.joel

 

Sorry man ... I have no idea about that ...

 

Hey ... I have a technical question for any of you more technically minded folk (members of the trade and the like) ...

I'm wanting to find some way to extend the battery life on my GS70 ... not for gaming but for productivity type stuff (writing, graphic work, etc.) that I do weekly out and about at coffee shops and/or restaraunts that don't have an outlet.

I ordered one of these portable batteries from Amazon but am not sure if it will be compatible (power wise) with the GS70; I know it has a connector that will fit but not sure about volts/amps and all that ...

Here's the product I ordered: MAXOAK 50000mAh 6 Port(5/12/20v) Portable Charger External Battery

The description says "Can not Charge Laptop with DC Current Over 5A" ... which confuses me because I know nothing about any of that sort of thing ... but even if it won't, technically, *charge* the GS70 ... would it still "power" it for a longer period than the default battery power-up time (I get about 2.5 hours of standard office-type use out of the GS70 battery)??

Otherwise, the MAXOak product is very well reviewed and seems to be quite the potent device ...

I'm scared to plug it in to the GS70, though without first hearing from some experts on how it might work with this laptop ...

Thanks in advance for any information!

Joel

 

man jeez ar u crazy u using crappy TN still and u only found out about true color now ??
anyway we gs70 owners replaced sht TN and installed IPS loong time ago..

 

Wow now that was a helpful post

 

How did you replace it?


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LOL ... I actually think the GS70 TN panel is quite exceptional ... not bad at all. Both of my desktop screens are IPS and it's true I like the color saturation better with the IPS screens ... but as laptop panels go, the GS70 TN panel is really not that bad ...

I'm really curious to see what MSI will be offering in the way of Pascal laptops ...