MSI GT60/70 with GTX 680M and Optimus

Official Press Release

MSI Global – News

 

According to MSI's press release, the GT60 will also support Super RAID.

 

I really want to know how much they costs

 

The MSI GT70 with SUPER RAID 0 will not be cheap with the nVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M 256bit w/4GB GDDR5.

However the MSI GT60 will probably be one of the, if not the least expensive 15.6" with the GTX 680M...but then, how many 15.6" models can you find that support the GTX 68M along with dual hard drives?

In any event, we will know the complete configuration and pricing for both of them very soon!

 

^^That made my day!!

So its Clevo P150EM and MSi GT60 that currently offer GTX 680M in 15in range..... Hearing what paladin44 said I think MSI is going to be actually cheaper than clevo if you do configure both the same.

 

They should be similarly priced, but the MSI GT60 will support two SATA III drives (the Sager NP9150 only supports one SATA III and one SATA II mSATA drive), has the Dynaudio Tech Speakers which are much better than the ONKYO speakers on the Sager, the Steelseries backlit programmable keyboard...yup, better than Sager again, and a 2 Year Warranty standard instead of 1 Year on the Sager. It is going to be tough to beat, even if the Sager turns out to be a little cheaper.

We won't have to wait long to find out. Email me if you want to get on the list.

 

And MSI's warranty is 1 year international right?

 

MSI US & Canada 2 Year + 1 Year Global Parts & Labor Warranty + 1 Year Accidental Coverage + Lifetime Tech Support (Registration within 30 days of Ship Date Required)

 

Yeah they said ETA is sometimes in July and hopefully it won't delay.

mSATA is easy to upgrade but make sure delete RAID setup in RAID BIOS first before remove them.

 

To the Resellers:

Will the barebone models (17" in particular) get the GTX680M? If so when will we start to see those?

 

i am hoping usd 1199 for gtx 680m barebone fingers crossed

 

That would be nice, but considering the current model starts at around $1500 with a 670m, there is no chance .

 

I just quickly configured a barebones 1762 at one reseller with a "GTX675M" and i7 3610QM and it was $1313

 

Here's hoping MSI wont have trouble with drivers like clevo is having atm

P.S : End of july seems very far.........

 

i was actually hoping usd 1199 with barebone+ gtx 680m only

i will buy cpu+hdd+ram later for cpu i will spend usd 300 and i have spare ssd+hdd and ram is dirt cheap anyway

 

According to MSI there are no schedule for barebone models yet.

 

@resellers can u guys post the exact specs of US model of gt70 one and gt 60 one with gtx 680m??

 

Haven't been on these forums for like 3 years, woah.

I'm back!

Anyways, xotic just put these computers up.

MSI GT60 0NE-220US - XOTIC PC - MSI 15.6" Custom Gaming Notebook

MSI GT70 0NE-276US - XOTIC PC - MSI 17.3" Custom Gaming Laptop

 

Niiiice thanks. $1899 for the GT60 and $2599 for the GT70. Big price difference but that is due to the fact that the GT70 is with 2xmsata SSDs ad the GT60 is without. I know Ken from Gentech spoke about two versions of GT70, so we should see some without the msata SSDs I think, probably around $2000.

 

Just to add in, Xotic already sells the GT60/70 with GTX 680M

Just looking for some opinions, which should I take, a M17x R4 or a GT 60?

Also, upgreadability in the future? A 780M maybe?

 

Well both MSI and Alienware are pretty much upgradable and easy to work with since they both use MXM cards. Personally I hate the looks of the Alienware, especially the keyboard. But then again, many hate the looks of the MSI too

Both have their pros and cons though, fan noise is one of the big cons (for me) with MSI, but they have other big perks, like the only one with MSATA SSDs in RAID0 for high speeds plus the best speakers plus a great keyboard.
On the other hand we have Alienware with very cheap building materials, fugly keyboard. But it have dual fans, great support/warranty.

So yeah, not an easy choice

 

:v

Is the cooling better on the MSi? Or is it on par with the M17x R4 but with more fan noise?

Does MSi warranty work overseas if I buy it from Xotic PC?


Btw, just noticed that there's an opt to add copper into the MSi heatsink at Xotic.

Anybody know what this option does? Can an Xotic rep tell us what changes does the mod do to the heatsink + pics?

 

That copper thing Xotic offer is basicly this (not so many though)
As for the fan noise with Alienware vs MSI, I`m still not shure which makes the most noise since I don`t own any of them

 

Wooow, quite an awesome job at that 9150


I'm still curious about how they do it in the MSi GT 60 though

 

I took a look at the new GT60 on Xoticpc. Honestly, I was hoping more around the 1.7k price range, but it's understandable. Hopefully, something around Black Friday/Christmas will help lower the price by a decent amount. That's still my dream laptop though and I WILL GET IT ONE DAY!

 

completely bullcrap prce on gt70 one i mean come on....for 2x128gb plus 4 gb ram more they charge ++ 800 usd than gt60 one??? what matters is gtx 680m nobody cares about those darn ssds

 

Don`t worry, a new SKU without the SSDs is also coming

 

Preorders up on Gentech

GT60:
GenTech PC - Customize System

GT70:
GenTech PC - Customize System

Edit:
Killer 1202 + BT also on Gentech for $59

 

Lol, the price is right where i wanted!! I'M SO GETTING THIS!!! ..... but i cant buy just yet... cause i have a special occasion mid september and thats when im getting this! GT60 is so much better than np9150 atm..... Also, could anyone please tell me how this international warranty works?

 

Within sneezing distance of 2k is a little too rich for my blood, I'm afraid. Excellent machine and excellent hardware, but just a little too pricey.

I'll just have to work with my little budget gamer laptop.

 

A 16F3 with a 680M should be a bit cheaper.

 

gt60 pricing is ok now waiting 16f3 with 680m but i really looked forward for gt70

still waiting on barebone price

 

by the the stock msata ssds on gt70 are from sandisk right? with 64gb,128gb,256 gb sizes?

 

Last time, the 16f2 got gtx 580m. So im positive that 16f3 will receive gtx 680m goodness.

 

I really hope that will happen, I do want a barebones MSi with a GTX 680M

 

Yes, it will happen, and it will also have a backlit keyboard

Now, the question is when. My best guess is August.

 

I just felt the need to throw a thought out there......

I have noted an individual who has made a few post (and even a thread) suggesting the MSI GTxx notebooks have excessive fan noise. Considering as gaming notebooks go (with hi-watt, hi-performance GPU's), these new MSI gaming notebooks run very quiet & cool. I have personally tested 4 GT78x series notebooks in this regard, all were relatively quiet, and none were overly disturbing or annoying under load. For anyone to say otherwise, I would suggest they experienced a defective unit..... or they lack experience with gaming notebooks, probably talk a good game, but are just a 'shopper', and rarely actually 'buy' anything.

I love those folks who always want to talk all the latest tech (well read, wanting to belong, and bouncing around all the latest hi-tech notebook threads), yet never really speaking from true experience. Don't get me wrong, it's OK to talk the talk, and never walk the walk, but folks should consider that these individuals often skew perspective..... making unfounded claims with poor 'buy' recommendations.

Yes, under load the MSI notebooks will become audible, but show me a true gaming notebook that doesn't. I mean, let's get real here! You certainly don't need a db meter (or nit-picking db levels) to determine the least audible winners amongst the competition. After all, we are talking 'gaming' notebooks here, and during GAMING, audible noise levels will go unnoticed for the most part..... unless you are ruining your experience by gaming without the sound, LOL! These MSI notebooks are certainly quieter than their comparable Clevo/Sager/Alienware counterparts...... some of which reaching levels I liken to a hair blower.

From actual hands-on, IMO, MSI provides the coolest and quietest mobile gaming platforms available today, only slightly bested (audibly) by the Asus gaming line.... BUT considering all features, price point, custom options, higher tech, and higher performance dedicated/discreet GPU's, MSI becomes a clear winner (at this moment in time).

Bottom Line: Within the current field of equivalent gaming/power notebooks, the MSI GT60/GT70 series are top contenders, and it's a bit ludicrous to consider their fan noise levels a 'game changer' or 'deal breaker'. Essentially these are 'do-it-all' mobile DTR's, with a lot of power & punch in a very small package..... and I have found fan noise levels wholly acceptable in all applications. Listening to the gaming community, as of late MSI has done an outstanding job in this arena..... quite amazing actually!

Just my two cents & nuff said!

 

I did my homework online and compared the performance of the 670 vs the 680 and i want your guys opinions. You think the 680 will be a beast card and perform well in today's and future's games on high or ultra setting?

 

No doubt..... easily over the next 3 to 5 years, but by then, you'll have your eye on newer tech.

 

Thanks for the response striker,

I was thinking of getting the aw m14x r2, but the 650m seems like a weak gpu compared to the 680m

Do you guys think the temps on the 680m will be only a bit higher then the 660m or 670m?

Thinking of getting the GT60 now

 

gtx 680m will serve you smoothly for the next 2 years at 1080p

 

Well, with some measure of certainty, I am confident the MSI GT60 w/GTX-680M will run cool, but in truth this is yet to be fully determined. From a preliminary standpoint, all indicators say it should run cooler than the GTX-580M. We will know soon.

If you are considering an Alienware equivalent, I recommend doing your homework and get with the Alienware forum folks for comparisons. History shows the Alienware folks had throttling and higher temp issues with Alienware 580M models, so I would be mindful of this when considering their newer 680M model. Do your homework and you should be fine.

Good luck in your buying decision & choice.

 

Price?

/10char

 

You know what they say about opinions ....

Agree with their findings or not NotebookCheck is your friend here. They use a very consistent testing methodology and can be a great source of information. So when your feeling the need to rant you may want to check first. You can almost count that someone else will.

Don't have a msi so I may be categorized as a talker with no experience but here goes anyway.

GT60 min/max db = 39.4, 53.1
GT70 min/max db = 43.0, 51.8

ASUS G75 min/max db = 37.3, 42,8
AW M17x R4 min/max db = 42.0, 50.3
Clevo P170EM min/max db = 43.1, 52.6

Anyone see a FEW hair blowers in that list.

 

I compared the numbers with notebookcheck like Alwayssearching did, and from the numbers there and the comments, the MSI is the most noisy of the bunch, like Clevo. Notebookcheck`s reviews is pretty much spot on with the temperatures and such so I`m trusting them.

Asus G75 have a GTX 670M, MSI GT70 have a GTX 680M. The two GPUs are equally hot, so I am 100% certain that Asus could easily have as silent cooling system with a 680M.

But yeah, I don`t own any of these MSI notebooks, so I havent experienced them firsthand myself

 

Opps sorry forgot that important piece of info. All test machines had GTX670 except the AW it had a GTX675.

All tests have been conducted in the last 2-3 months.

 

I guess we will know in a few months. From what I've heard MSi is loud, but in return does a pretty good job keeping the laptop running cool. So....meh... its cool.

 

Loud doesn't really bother me either as all these machines except the G75 are pretty close. You have to give it to asus their cooling is pretty good. I have a G73 and it hardly ever spins up more than 30%. Always quiet and never hot to touch.

I have a GE60 coming that I am giving downsizing a shot. If that doesnt work too well I will be looking at the GT60/680.

 

Yeah, don't get me wrong. I have acknowledged the Asus G7x series are less audible. My only objection was to those who down-playing the MSI series as "SUPER LOUD" or "extra noisey", when this simply isn't true as compared with other 'gaming' notebooks..... and yes, I have made hands-on comparisons.

As to your faith in NBC, many share that view, and many do not. BUT, this wasn't the point of my earlier post at all. Also I would suggest those db numbers will have little meaning to most, as they will not translate or resonate in a literal sense. Though I do feel NBC can be a good reference or starting point, believe me when I say they have gotten it wrong on more than one occassion.

The overall point was audible noise levels should not be a major consideration here, and again, as 'gaming' laptops go. The MSI notebooks are not audibly excessive, and in actuality, they have done an outstanding job considering the tech and higher-ended GPU's.

I am not necessarily an MSI fan, but moreoverly a fan for those doing it right in the times. I would be sending equal praises to Asus's G series as well, if they were keeping pace with the latest high-end GPU's, and if their recent GPU's were not soldered to the mainboards. Also, I am currently not seeing mSATA available within this brand. Furthermore, many of the Asus users were complaining of throttling issues. An issue not experienced in the MSI branded models.

Just saying...... given the current tech and price point, MSI is a top contender for the moment. I think those making a big 'To-Do' over 'fan noise', simply haven't the experience with gaming notebooks, and there should be many other more important factors for consideration here. Those overly balking about fan noise are sending a misleading message.

When you picked apart my previous post, and quoted me only in part, I assumed you must have taken some of the obvious finger-pointing personally. Just so you know, I wasn't directing any of that in your direction. The 'individual' in question, intentionally unnamed, has quite a history of being the professional shopper, never buying anything, troll like, and putting out misleading information..... and not just amongst the MSI forums. Many here know exactly who those inferences were to.

Anyhow, opinions, ya gotta love 'em, right? Admittedly I did rant a bit..... my apologies. Sometimes I can't help myself. (BAD -=$tr|k3r=-, BAD -=$tr|k3r=- !)

I hope this has been more helpful.... or at least amusing.

 

OK, time to bring reality back into the picture as I think the conversation has focused too much on how high or low you can get those numbers and forgotten what the numbers mean.

I'd like to point out that with the exception of the ASUS, all of those are "margin of error" differences.

I sincerely doubt any normal person would notice much of a difference between 42 and 43.1db or 50.3 and 53.1db. I also argue that with those kind of differences, it could be simply human error in the experiment itself.

Example: If I measure 50db at 1', then measure the SAME sound at 6" it will be easily capable of covering the differences we see above.

For all intents and purposes, a few db difference is not a clear indication of anything. The ASUS, however, shows enough of a difference (6-10db) where I think we can conclude it stands alone in its quiet cooling.

For reference... (and for the "hair blower" comment people who apparently cannot tell the difference between 50-53db and 75db)

Whisper-quiet library is around 30db
Average adult conversation is 60-65db
Average hair drier (in hand) is 75db
Average telephone ring tone = 80db
Danger zone for extended exposure is 90-95db

Given that even the loudest of those gets up to 53db at max, (quite a bit below a normal adult conversation, and nowhere near a hair drier/blower at 75db) I think we can safely concentrate on the system that does the best overall at cooling.