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    MSI GT80 3dMark Scores, test and tune

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by GTVEVO, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. GTVEVO

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    The highest verified 970m sli setup reported is 13501 so I don't see how you can't get 17 or 20k.

    http://www.3dmark.com/search?_ga=1....e/fs/P/NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M&gpuName=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M

    I would love to see your score though. Maybe you are referring to 3dmark 11.
     
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    Makes sense, the downfall of the tapatalk app not showing sigs in posts.
     
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    Awesome guys, thanks for the link! Time to pass 20k tonight (graphics score). Just wish these HQ CPU's didn't hold the cards back so much, would love to go back to a socketed MQ extreme
     
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    GTEVO, when benchmarking with high OC, have you had your laptop shut off from excessive OC? I had one such event at +255 core and +450 memory. I am not sure if its just unstable+ protection, or far exceeding the PSU.
     
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    The system locks up and then powers down, the puzzling thing is around +225 / +230 on the gpu the system seems fairly stable just once I go above that level even increasing power doesn't seem to make much difference. The power brick watt meter reads around 380 and that seems about it so I am feeling like it is a power issue but still I am not 100% positive. How much further could it be pushed with more power, who knows but I would think it would go a bit further. On a good note seems like we are doing well without the desktop (k) series processors when looking at the 3dmark top list.

    My main goal is for people to see that the GT80 is a total power house in comparison and runs with the competition. Hopefully nobody takes it the wrong way.
     
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    Good, and bad, to see I was not the only one haha. I have noticed this locking down and powering down. Oh well, to be honest, I rarely game with OC. I normally overclock something small, like 80 core and 150 memory, but it hardly makes a difference right now.

    And yeah, the GT80 is quite a powerhouse. Even using HQ processors, it seems we got the best type, as we don't seem to have the issues some alienwares are reporting with HQ processors, mainly lowered performance. I consistently perform full power regardless of the game and temps.

    I also noticed that the new FF14 heavensward benchmark does scale and perform excellently with GT80, but it also pushes the system hard haha. With no OC, my GPUs got up to 88 and 76C, without turbo fan on.
     
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    Thats the fear I had when buying this laptop, the HQ cpu. Ive tried many gaming laptops this year and they all throttled to base clocks in gaming, killing performance. This laptop has yet to do that, even though CPU temps are still high at max. Wish they dedicated a third fan and heat-sink in the middle to just the CPU. So props to MSI for being the only company to give us a HQ cpu that doesnt suck.
     
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    How do you flash the vbios ?

    I have an error when I want to launch the file "ModMe"...
     
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    humm if you are talking about the prema vbios they flash the same way the MSI vbios would through DOS using nvflash or through windows with the included .bat file after disabling the hardware in device manager. My download did not have a ModMe file included in the archive.
     
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    first you disable the GPUs in device manager, then you flash with the bat, for GPU1 then GPU2, then restart. I would also recommend re installing the drivers after a complete installation.
     
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    I agree. I am quite happy that my HQ processor consistently runs at its max turbo, and when it is fully stressed, it drops down to 3.5ghz or so, so I get powerful performance indefinitely, at least for gaming.
     
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    are there instructions for the modme file? Im assuming in windows all I need to do is disable the GPU's, go into command and run the modme.bat file? What about modme2?
     
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    Sorry yes you disable both GPU's in the hardware manager and run each .bat file (ModMe.bat then ModMe2.bat) and then re-enable the hardware after they completed. Reboot and then you should be good after a driver re-install if needed.
     
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    Model 009
    Test Fire Strike
    Termal compund Stock
    CPU Tuning -60 dynamic core voltage offset [email protected] GPU +155 and Mem +450
    Shift Mode Sport
    Room/Ambient Temperature 70
    Comments: Prema VBIOS - Not able to pass 155 on core clock, Firestrike getting hanged :( :( whats wrong :vbmad: :vbmad:
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4738557

    [​IMG]
     

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    I am more interested in hearing your opinion of the CLU you added to the CPU is that right? How are you temps now and what improvement did you see with it?
     
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    Try reducing memory, and then upping your voltage. I don't know about GTEVO but I had to put +67.5mv at least, to get in the 200mhz range. Try +37.5vm?

    Also it is widely known that 980m memory does not overclock as well, though the fact that we manage 400mhz is pretty nice. Personally, I was unsuccessful with any run higher than 400mhz for memory, because even if I completed the tests, i saw artifacts on screen, so I don't consider them legit for me.
     
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    No I haven't add CLU, Thermal compound - Stock, sorry I modified your info .. LoL..Temp --- 94 :(
     
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    Can you please tell me how to change the voltage? I am not able to modify neither core voltage nor power limit in MSI Afterburner.

    upload_2015-5-4_18-27-15.png
     
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    I had to use nvidia inspector for voltage adjusting and overclocking.
     
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    Model 071
    Test Fire Strike 1.1
    Thermal compund stock
    CPU Tuning -40 dynamic core voltage offset, CPU + 200mhz
    GPU Tuning +275/+300 @ 1.1v
    Driver : 350.12
    Shift Mode Sport
    Room/Ambient Temperature 70
    Comments

    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4746849

    [​IMG]
     
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    I am sure I have much more headroom to overclock, highest voltage ive used is 1.1v @ +275. I will shoot for +350-ish later tonight @ 1.2v and bump the memory to + 550. Should be able to hit 20k no problem. My score above matches a stock 980m sli setup :)
     
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    Thank you for yours answers :)

    I'ill try again, but when I disable my GPU in device manager, nvflash doesn't find my GPU.

    And yes I'm talking about Prema Vbios.
    Which vbios did you install GTVEVO ?
     
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    Prema
     
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    Thank you, it works ! :)

    Let's go to bench :)
     
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    Everyone just remember to be careful :) OCing is not for the faint of heart and you are now venturing to higher voltage, even on stock. If I remember correctly, Prema's ran at a slightly higher stock voltage than our MSI cards.
     
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    Yes you are right :

    MSI vbios : 1.0370 V max
    Prema vbios : 1.0602 V max

    But we can modify Prema vbios to change voltage :)
     
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    Not too far away from my score with the titan-x in the GS30:

    15327

    :)
     
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    any results from your testing?
     
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    I have approximatly the same results with prema vbios.

    I will post them soon ;)
     
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    Model 021
    Test Fire Strike 1.1
    Thermal Compound Mod (MX-4)
    CPU/GPU tuning Yes : CPU -40mV / GPU : Core +135 MHz ; Memory +200 MHz
    Shift Mode Sport
    Driver : 347.77
    Room/Ambient Temperature 25°C
    Comments Prema vbios

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/6931086

    [​IMG]
     
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    Careful there, those temps are on the high side, all around. Those GPU temps are the highest I have seen so far.
     
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    Especially for a short benchmark quite high yes.
     
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    Yes I agree...
    I think to repast my GPU/CPU again...

    Which thermal paste do you suggest ? (except for Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra)
     
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    I mostly use IC Diamond myself. Even when stress testing for a long while, I never got such high temps for the GPUs, despite having higher ambient temp. My max GPU temp so far was 88C with an ambient temp near 110F, and was running in succession the FF14 benchmark for Heavensward which maxed my GPU usage a lot haha.

    It would be interesting for others to try that benchmark. I got 15K on stock for 1080p maximum settings, and 4.8K for 4K resolution maximum settings :)

    I noticed the game was taxing on the GPUs and CPU as well.
     
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    Model 009
    Test Fire Strike
    Termal compund CLU on CPU and Antec7 on GPUs
    CPU Tuning -20 dynamic core voltage offset [email protected] GPU +260 and Mem +460
    Shift Mode Sport
    Room/Ambient Temperature 70
    Comments: Decided to try something different today and I was able to go a bit further.

    Firestrike_secondrun_20150514_16728_70rt_42ghz_260_460_-20_core.jpg
     
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    One heck of an impressive score there man. You are making me want to try OCing a but more... How much did you push the voltage on your GPUs? I am thinking that if our PSU can take your behemoth CPU compared to mine, it should sustain the test at least to try get something similar :)

    At least on the GPU score haha :D
     
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    I didn't add any more voltage to the GPUs (yet lol) as the PSU is hitting in the upper 380s in a couple occasions during the test. I just lowered the memory clock a bit which seemed to stabilize the GPU a bit better so I started pushing again. I know I am pushing the single PSU limit but I am sure the system board won't allow the dual brick adapter to work, it would be nice if it was possible.
     
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    Wow, you pushed those clocks on stock 1.062v? That is pretty impressive!
     
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    No no no, sorry + 62.5mv I believe , I meant I didn't add any more voltage from the previous test at 16600.
     
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    Ah that makes sense, I use the same voltage and works for me at similar speeds. But I have noticed my core is unstable beyond 240ish.

    How about FF14 benchmark? I would like to compare stock systems, as to be honest, my overclocked system hasn't finished the full test haha! Maybe its too stressing to the point the PSU dies?
     
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    First quick test non high power profile results are below, both stock clocks on cpu and gpu.

    1920x1080 laptop High settings
    FINAL FANTASY XIV: Heavensward Benchmark
    Tested on: 5/14/2015 4:33:19 PM
    Score: 21271
    Average Frame Rate: 164.726
    Performance: Extremely High

    Then 1920x1080 maximum settings
    FINAL FANTASY XIV: Heavensward Benchmark
    Tested on: 5/14/2015 5:10:53 PM
    Score: 16894
    Average Frame Rate: 128.447
    Performance: Extremely High

    Then 1920x1080 maximum settings @ 4ghz (Max CPU Temp 87c with 71 room temp)
    FINAL FANTASY XIV: Heavensward Benchmark
    Tested on: 5/14/2015 8:03:59 PM
    Score: 17400
    Average Frame Rate: 131.881
    Performance: Extremely High
     
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    Very nice scores, 8~ plus FPS more than me, most likely the effect of the extra CPU power :)

    EDIT: I didn't see your scores at 4Ghz. FF15 definitely loves the extra CPU power. That is 12FPs higher on average than mine!
     
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    Model 021
    Test Fire Strike 1.1
    Thermal Compound Mod (GC-Extreme)
    CPU/GPU tuning Yes : CPU -40mV / GPU : Core +135 MHz ; Memory +200 MHz
    Shift Mode Sport
    Driver : 347.77
    Room/Ambient Temperature 24°C
    Comments Prema vbios with new Thermal paste on CPU and GPUs

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7035294

    [​IMG]
     
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    Nope. As far as I have read around, That thermal paste is new, and there is little info regarding use/review etc.
     
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    I would not trust a paste producer who recommends you spread it manually first.
     
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    I think budy that its too much volt 1.1v for that clocks.

    Im running mine 970ms at 1330/1480 1.05v playing games stable bf hardline -bf4

    You can go further... :)

    I tried to go further at 1500/1490 at 1.167v but my psu shutdown after 1 minute bench... :(
     
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    Anyone else end up with blocked overclocking with the new Nvidia drivers (353.06)? If so a clean install and reboot solves the mystery.
     
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    Model 263
    Test Fire Strike 1.1
    Thermal compund stock
    CPU Tuning stock
    GPU Tuning stock
    Driver : 353.06
    Shift Mode I didn't see this option. I only saw a toggle for 'high performance'. This test was run with high performance disabled and dragon gaming software not running.
    Room/Ambient Temperature ~21c

    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5047291

    [​IMG]
     
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