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    MSI GT80 3dMark Scores, test and tune

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by GTVEVO, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. GTVEVO

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    Shift Mode is part of the dragon gaming software so the default is high performance, no worries its where it should be.
     
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    A decent stock score yes :)
     
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    Model 263
    Test Fire Strike 1.1
    Thermal compund stock
    CPU Tuning -75mv
    GPU Tuning stock
    Driver : 353.06
    Shift Mode High performance enabled
    Room/Ambient Temperature ~21c

    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5058113

    [​IMG]

    Really liking those temps... and the score actually went up. Going to play with this a bit more, see how far I can push it.
     
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    Yes, those temps look very nice, and 'seem' to reflect that the 5950HQ, indeed has superior efficiency. Nice job! :)
     
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    Here is the best I could do last night. Ran out of time.

    Model 263
    Test Fire Strike 1.1
    Thermal compund stock
    CPU Tuning -90mv
    GPU Tuning Core +200mhz, Memory +400mhz, prema vbios
    Driver : 353.06
    Shift Mode High performance enabled
    Room/Ambient Temperature ~21c

    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5064560

    [​IMG]
     
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    Model 263
    Test Fire Strike 1.1
    Thermal compund stock
    CPU Tuning -75mv
    GPU Tuning Core +100mhz, Memory +100mhz
    Driver : 353.06
    Shift Mode Dragon Settings on Sport/High Performance
    Room/Ambient Temperature 20-22c


    Well this is basically my stable settings of which I plan to keep for gaming, still trying to figure out why there is such a huge gap between my physics score and my buddies Vezrian, seems like 1000 is a big difference for the same settings and temps.

    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5071857

    [​IMG]
     
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    About on par with my Titan-x :)

    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5018944
     
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    I agree with you. 1000 is a big difference. My stock score is 12554 and I was on Sport setting with High Performance disabled

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7342103

    I didn't run the temps program but I will on my second run of Fire Strike later today. And I will post screenshots.

    Any idea why the low scores?

    By the way what program do you fellas recommend for GPU and CPU tuning?
     
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    I think his issue came down to the virus scan application causing some drama on his machine so he is good now after removing it according to his last message so users beware, we see a few antivirus apps causing issues that become noticeable in your physics score so FYI.
     
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    For CPU tuning it's intel XTU, for GPU probably msi afterburner or nvidia inspector depending on the level of tuning you are doing.
     
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    This is my best score so far. Temps are high though

    Model
    263
    Test Fire Strike 1.1
    Thermal compund stock
    CPU Tuning -75mv
    GPU Tuning Core +160mhz, Memory +400mhz, prema vbios
    Driver : 353.06
    Shift Mode Dragon Settings on Sport/High Performance
    Room/Ambient Temperature 70F


    upload_2015-6-16_14-25-23.png

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7370933?
     
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    Yes the GPUs are going to really start showing their desktop power levels as you clock them up, when you get them into the 1400-1500mhz clock regions they start really eating power.
     
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    I am now happy with my stock score. I uninstalled prema vbios and reinstalled MSI stock Vbios and drivers I finally got a decent score. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7375108
    Compared to my previous 12554 score. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7342103

    I didn't run HW monitor but I know that it wasn't as hot as when I OC.
    I did have windows defender running behind the scenes during this test and my normal background task

    Model 263
    Test Fire Strike 1.1
    Thermal compund stock
    CPU Tuning Stock
    GPU Tuning Stock
    Driver : 353.06
    Shift Mode Dragon Settings on Sport/High Performance
    Room/Ambient Temperature 70F

    upload_2015-6-16_18-41-10.png
     
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    You do have to set custom vbios settings right to get them to work, they are often not as "plug and play" as the stock firmware, glad it's working well for you though :)
     
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    Yup, that's great since you got a pretty good result.
    Normally, the stock VBIOS is very limited in terms of overclocking headroom.
     
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    Yeah it is limited. I hit 15k score with a prema vbios.

    Once i have some real demanding games. I will start to overclock my gpu.

    As of I know I am only using -75mv on my cpu for temperature reasons.
     
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    Remember everyone, that overclocking quikly pushes your PSU beyond the wattage it can give. It might not be such a good idea to run demanding games, overclocked :)
     
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    Its a good idea to get a wall monitor and assume your psu is 85% efficient.
     
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    This is pretty incredible. Titan 263 going toe to toe with a GeForce Titan X Desktop system...gads. MSI has really built a beast. The 5950HQ is starting to look like its worth the money to upgrade it to me. Seems to really hold the turbo clocks, and offers alot of head room for OC.
     
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    The achiles heel of the HQ processors are when continuously stressing above the TDP level. Even the powerful 5950HQ will be TDP regulated after its turbo window runs out. I believe it can hold around 3.7Ghz while regulating at 47W, which is pretty good.
     
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    Hey Ryzeki, have you tried overclocking the 4720? Does XTU let you OC that chip at all or does it require a bios swap? I ask because I wonder if the 5700HQ would just let me OC to 5950 speeds. It looks to me like the processor specs are identical outside of the base and turbo clocks.
     
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    You cant really overclock per se. All of the current gt80 cpu offerings have higher multipliers you can enable. 4720hq for example is normally 3.4ghz in quad core, but you can push it two bins up to 3.6ghz.

    However, this does not guarantee you will run at such speeds all the time because the cpus have a thermal AND power limit. Both 5700 and 5950 have a TDP of 47w so when you really tax the system, both will throttle down from their max speed, to the max they support under 47w regulation. I have yet to reach thermal throttle.

    Anyways, 5700 should run most of the time at 3.6ghz quad core as my 4720 does, and when i drop, it is usually to 3.4-3.5 so its not that bad. I have read you can push the 5950 at 4ghz but it might drop to 3.7-3.6 after its turbo time window is up.

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    My 4870HQ can run at around 3.3-3.4ghz at 47W full load. Most games it will stick to 3.7ghz though :)
     
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    I must say I really expected my score of 16728 to get killed quickly that was achieved on my 4th Gen 4980hq with the 5th Gen out but it's lasted longer than I thought.

    I would love to have access to a 5th Gen and apply clu then see it's potential.
     
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    If I order the 263 we'll push it and find the ceiling.


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    I only compete in the Graphics score haha :D I already reached my ceiling with the CPU, with a max score or 10K.
     
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    Hey Ryz is that with a 4720HQ? I had a MacBook Pro with a 4980HQ that only scored 9900 in Boot Camp on FireStrike CPU. So your 10k is impressive.
     
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    Yep, with a 4720HQ. Its among the top range a 4720hq can achieve, but 4980HQ and 5950HQ should push 12K or more :)
     
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    I decided to start overclock test my machine again. Today's score was pretty good compared to my last score of 15286 (Prema vBios), which only had a higher Graphics score, compared to this test, which has a higher PhysX and Combined Score.

    Soon I might try Prema vBios and see If I can beat this Score. Temperature was actual 1 degree Celsius then my last over clocked score.

    Model
    263
    Test Fire Strike 1.1
    Thermal compund stock
    CPU Tuning -90mv
    GPU Tuning Stock vBios. +135 Core, +400 Memory
    Driver : 353.30
    Shift Mode Dragon Settings on Sport/High Performance
    Room/Ambient Temperature 68F

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7649632

    upload_2015-7-6_19-47-24.png
     
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    12260 on CPU is pretty large, just need to get the GPU score up a bit to get into GTVEVOs territory. Taking GPU score up to 22k will drop a 16k Firestrike score for sure.
     
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    I reran the test and this time with Dragon Center closed and same specs. I scored slightly higher

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7649794

    I will try and get a score in the 16k number soon
     

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    Every run will vary slightly due to different system configurations and certain random factors in the benchmark.
     
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    This is the highest as my machine can go without my graphics cards crashing on me

    Model 263
    Test Fire Strike 1.1
    Thermal compund stock
    CPU Tuning -75mv
    GPU Tuning Prema vBios. +160 Core, +400 Memory
    Driver : 353.30
    Shift Mode Dragon Settings on Sport/High Performance
    Room/Ambient Temperature 72F

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7760266

    upload_2015-7-14_22-3-36.png
     
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    This is about as high as I can go without Firestrike freezing and crashing on me.

    I was only 101 pts away from beating GTVEVO high score. What a fun night anyway.

    Model
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    Test Fire Strike 1.1
    Thermal compund stock
    CPU Tuning -75mv
    GPU Tuning Prema vBios. +240 Core, +440 Memory, +50mv
    Driver : 353.30
    Shift Mode Dragon Settings on Sport/High Performance/Cooling Fan on
    Room/Ambient Temperature 72F

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7761424

    upload_2015-7-15_1-20-13.png
     
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    I can picture your PSU screaming for life :p hahaha nice scores! 1400 points above mine :)
     
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    Yes it will be, would need two to think about too much more.
     
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    This is as far as I have gone so far. House was pretty warm (80f) so I didn't want to push too much harder. +214 GPU Core, +293 GPU memory, Prema bios, -30 CPU Offset. This was also without adding extra voltage to the GPU's.

    One thing I need to play with is keeping the CPU out of thermal throttling during the Physics test. Part of it was the ambient room temp, and the other was offset.
    Titan Firestrike 214core 293 mem 39cpu 30 offset.JPG
     
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    Do you think the power bridge that eurocom uses would work, I am unsure if clevo uses the same thing but I was assuming so? The power adapter seems to be exactly the same too.

    Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk
     
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    Not something I have tried to be honest, I don't know if the board has a hard 330W limit.
     
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    Right just like the AW18, an expensive risk to take for sure.
     
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    Unless you have it to hand to test or someone can loan it.
     
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    Picture my face when the electric bill comes :eek: lol it was totally worth it though. I have never had a laptop/desktop push so hard.

    You should try lowering the CPU voltage a little more, maybe -75. I achieved a similar score with +135core,+400mem and -90mv on stock
     
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    It really depends on the CPU. In my case, anything below 55 will crash for me.
     
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    Had some fun benching last night, and was able to break through 16k consistently. Wess, were you running +50mv on each GPU? Also, when you went -75mv did you have the clocks at 4.1ghz? I am still figuring out the high wire act of how much I can under volt the CPU and what voltage I can get away with on the GPU's. I seem to run into instabilities around -50mv on the CPU, and also see instabilities on the GPU's when memory is over 390. But my tests were always at +25mv - +37.5mv on each GPU. This was my best run:

    Model 263
    Test Fire Strike 1.1
    Thermal compund stock
    CPU Tuning -30mv
    GPU Tuning Prema vBios. +250 Core, +370 Memory, +25mv ea GPU
    Driver : 353.30
    Shift Mode Dragon Settings on Sport/High Performance
    Room/Ambient Temperature 72F with forced induction cooling (note GPU temps)

    Titan Firestrike 250core 370mem 25gpu volts 4ghzcpu -30offset .JPG
     
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    Nice score Thrawn. Welcome to the 16k club.

    I did apply 50mv to each card. That helps with the instabilities in applying memory over 400.

    I didn't have the clocks at 4.1ghz. They were stock set 2.9ghz and 3.7ghz turbo boost.

    i would like to add I disabled Windows defender during benchmark runs. That raises the score a little bit.
     
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    Thanks for the info Wess, sounds like I'm going to have another evening of bench racing ahead when I get home! You should see the way I have this rig setup for testing. Im running a Laptop cooler with a portable air conditioner pumping air into the cooler. At idle, my CPU is 31c lol. GPU's never got beyond 78c. Always nice to keep the parts cool!

    I'll have to check Window defender, as I bet its robbing me a bit during the test. I'll also run some tests at stock CPU clocks with a -60 to -75mv offset and see what that does with the Physics score. I only ran +.50mv on each GPU once, but I'll have to try that with memory clocks over 400 and see if that stabilizes things. Even though heat wasn't an issue at all, I wanted to make sure that others had run that to make sure I wasn't too aggressive.
     
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    Thats a sweet setup. I should really think about running the benchmark next time i am in a AC room

    I was in my bedroom with only a window fan lol

    Just keep tweaking until you are satisfied with your score. I sure am.

    I did notice Windows Defender does lower physics scores a bit

    Have fun and keep us posted.

    Aim to top my score or gtvevo score on firestrike.

    From the benchmarks scores, him and I are the only ones who have above 16.6k score on the GT80, if i'm not mistaken.

    his sli 009 kicked my sli 263 butt lol.
     
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    Thanks Wess, I'll be doing some benching this evening. Not sure about beating scores, but just being in the 16k club was cool. At this point this is more about my curiosity of what the system is capable of, and I'm interested in bettering my previous scores. It's also fun to be part of this community of GT80 owners. The system is still about gaming at the end of the day, and when I run my games on it I remain flabbergasted at the systems performance. It really is a cool machine to own.
     
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    It's amazing how similar 980M SLI and the titan-x score in 3dmark (the test results are spread differently though).

    I need to do some more benching/tweaking to get to the 17k region with my GS30.
     
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    I agree and saw similar results with my aw18 and SLI 780s compared to the kelper gtx titian. Funny how things always line up with nvidia.

    GS30 hitting 17k? I am assuming this is no laptop?


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