MSI GX740 with 5870 1gb ddr5

Man... that G73. Every time I see it I look over at my ps3 and think their size is comparable. Might not be so but that thing looks huge.

 

It's way too big for me, I like to use my laptop on the road and not having it glued to my man cave
I know size is subjective but it's not for me, it's a great laptop spec wise and the cooling seems awesome but not exactly what I'm looking for.
That's why these MSI laptops are a good fit they still have all the power but are smaller in size which to me is a winning combo.

 

MSI MS-1727-ID1 (GX740) Barebone (937-172726-010)

ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5870 1GB GDDR5 VRAM
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Installation
4GB Dual Channel 1333Mhz Memory
720QM (1.60Ghz-2.80Ghz)
320-7200 WD Black
Stock VGA Drivers

ATI Overdrive-Overclock-Manual-755/1055

 

Looks great! How are the temps?

When you overclocked to the limit, on the RKcomputer forum, how were the temps on the lappy?

Thanks!

 

Honestly did not take any temp checks. I have not seen a properly configured MSI notebook have a temp problem or go into thermal shutdown in over 5 years. I can screenshot some temps later if you like and I will put them up in our forum.

I am doing some battery life tests right now. When I am done i will run it through vantage again and screenshot the temps before and after the run.

 

Thanks for satiating my eagerness for what is going to be my new laptop!

Look forward to the battery runs and the temp checks!

 

Exactly my point , but most are still scared that it will craps out very fast.

Have you tried going higher than that ?

 

If you look in our forum (i cannot post the link here) there is the last run that was maxed out on the vga overclock. It was run through that max overclock 3 times in a row without failure. I will post the pick here later when I have a chance. The max overclock was 815/1100. That was with the ATI overdrive overclock, I will try the AMD overclock tool tonight and i may get higher.

 

Awesome ! thanks dude

 

New to the ATi World,

what do ATi users use to overclock the graphics cards?

I've used nVidia all my life, so i need some help here.

I've downloaded ATi Catalyst 10.3 drivers in my backup hard drive for installation once the lappy gets here,

do I have to download any other important overclocking tools to OC my 5870?

 

You can either use the built in overclocking tool called Overdrive or use AMD gpu tool.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/AMD-GPU-Clock-Tool-v0.9.26.0-For-HD-5870-download-2383.html
http://downloads.guru3d.com/AMD-GPU-Clock-Tool-v0.9.8-download-1985.html
Did you get the mobility 10.3 or desktop ?

 

I do not know.. I got the 10.3 from the website,

the file name says 10-3_vista64_win7_64_dd_ccc_wdm_enu

is that a mobility or a desktop version?.. Maybe it is impossible to know from the file name...

AMD gpu tool seems to be more flexible? as Rob said he could get higher clocks with the AMD gpu tool?

 

Yes it's more appropriate for enthusiast It will let you go higher than the max clocks in overdrive.

Also , Overdrive comes with a built-in autotune feature which will oc it to the "safest" .. (if you don't feel like manually overclocking and testing )

Pretty sure you got the desktop one To get the mobility drivers you need to go through an annoying downloader. Here's the linky http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx

 

MSI MS-1727-ID1 (GX740) Barebone (937-172726-010)

ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5870 1GB GDDR5 VRAM
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Installation
4GB Dual Channel 1333Mhz Memory
720QM (1.60Ghz-2.80Ghz)
320-7200 WD Black
Stock VGA Drivers

ATI Overdrive-Overclock-Manual-815/1100-Overclocked To Limit With ATI Overdrive!!!!

 

nice GPU up, im wondering about the temps ;]

 

WOW!
That's insane with only a i7-720!
I can only imagine what a i7-920XM would get
I think 10000 in Vantage is reachable with a CPU and GPU OC.
rob@rkcomputers
Is there anything in the BIOS to OC a 920XM if you get that CPU?
Now that would seal the deal!

 

I just did some tests with the temp screen viewable from the AMD GPU tool and will have them up a little later. I have not seen in any of the MSI chassis that support the 920XM an overclock option in the bios. There is none in this chassis either.

 

Are the pictures currently up on your website this current model or pictures of the old one?
@rob
Do you see any temp problems with the 55W 920XM?
In other words can the cooling system on this laptop handle it stock and OC'd?

 

The previous model, the new is exactly the same. We will have the new pics up later or tomorrow with pics of the inside.

 

How about the question about the CPU?
That would make or break this laptop.

 

I have not personally tried it in this chassis but it is a qualified component for this chassis:

http://www.msiwhitebook.com/product/images/QVL_MS1727.pdf

 

OK.
At least that's something to go by.
Any chance to test one with it

 

I have none here, that cpu is not a big seller because of the price. We bring them in on demand as they are only a day away.

 

MSI MS-1727-ID1 (GX740) Barebone (937-172726-010)

ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5870 1GB GDDR5 VRAM
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Installation
4GB Dual Channel 1333Mhz Memory
720QM (1.60Ghz-2.80Ghz)
320-7200 WD Black
Stock VGA Drivers

AMD GPU Clock Tool-775/1075-Overclocked & Temps

 

a bit high.. but room for improvement with modifications!

Are those with stock thermal compounds? or did you use an effective compound like MX-3 or ICD7?

Was there a cooler underneath the laptop when tested?..

 

Honestly if you take into consideration the overclock (which is pretty high) the temps are not extreme at all. They are actually pretty good!

 

Here is my single OC'ed 4870 score with 920xm

@660/1125

Single
P8852

 

I just put up the PICs of the actual MS-1727 W/5870 VGA on the product page with views of the internal's also. Tomorrow night I will have high resolution photos up of this model in the "notebook photos" section of our site.

 

Yes, stock thermal compound on the CPU & GPU. No notebook cooler was used.

 

All in all the temps were not to bad with a OC and stock thermal compound, you can probably see a drop of 3c-5c with the better thermal paste.
Just one last question rob@rkcomputers
Are the fans loud under full load?
I hate noisy fans!
Thanks for the updated pics
looks like Im gonna buy my third laptop from you guys..lol

 

I have the same chassis, so the same fans so I could answer that for you.

The fans are audible in idle mode, but at load, they are comparatively quiet.

But they have a special mode, when under major load, it will kick into a mad spinning situation that will be like woah- is there something wrong with my laptop????????????? kinda situation, but it lasts only like 5 seconds.

Overall, the fans are quiet, don't worry!

I find the chassis irresistably cool and crisp.

 

Sorry for the lame newbie question. But my lack of google-fu lead me to the conclusion that the MSI 1727 chasis is NOT metallic, where as the GX740 is?

Also, I saw some conflicting information about the number of speakers/ports and chipset of the 1727 and the GX740 (while on the subject, what is the difference between the QM57 chipset and the HM55?).

I thought the 1727 uses PM55 and GX740 uses HM55. And I thought that HM55 is supposed to have better sound device, but specs of the two seem to say that the 1727 has better sound device? (and more speakers).

thanks

 

Oooooooooooooh... tech stuff... Can't answer that...

MSI-1727 is not metallic, GX740 is metallic.
Chipsets are located here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mobile-core-i7,2443-3.html

The sound systems are better on HM55... As the chipset explanations show such distinctions in HD sound support.

Hmm.. speakerwise. I really don't know about the quality of sounds.... As I only own a MS-1727-id1, but it is definitely one of the loudest... it blows through every laptop's sound in its proximity.. Dominate the region yea!

 

How many fans 1 or 2 ?

 

1 Fan, sir.

 

Thanks for the info. It is good to know that GX740 is metallic, since metal tend to conduct heat better, and I don't plan on using (any) laptops on my lap anyway.

As for the question about sound. I know that technically HM55 has better sound on the spec. But looking at various sites that sells GX740 and 1727, I get mixed msg about what chipset is used for the 1727 (is it really PM55?). Also, 1727 supposed to have 7.1 sound as opposed to stereo from GX740 .
And 1727 is said to have 4 speakers?

 

i believe the brushed aluminum is attacked to plastic. only for aesthetics. so technically their both non metal.

 

doh! At least it looks nicer... (Oh gosh, I am talking like a "i-fanboy! " )

 

7.1?..

No..

There are 4 speakers and a subwoofer on the 1727 model though.

Hmm, I've never seen a laptop with a 7.1 speaker system... might have to check with the others.

 

No not loud at all.

 

For example, look at the Specification section of 1727 from xotic:

 

It does support 7.1 , if you have the appropriate gear of course

 

Yep it supports 7.1

WOHOOOO


It supports 4 analogue outs
spdif
tos link to optical converter.


WIN!
Its a great array of ports indeed.

 

I still have doubts about having just one fan to cool both the CPU and GPU... will it really be enough?

 

Put it this way, 4850 and a qx9300 were fine, so why not..

 

Alright Dead you were right... these people, no many how many times you benchmark it, will neve be convinced about temps

 

Ok, so I still have doubts about the display quality, sounds good now?

 

AXHAHXAuhAXxuhaAUHAX u could always GIVE UP!

 

Screen should be about the same if not identical as the Gx640.

 

It's very simple.

Just run a Prime95 max heat / 8 thread + Furmark test for 20 minutes.

If it can handle that with no throttling and manage to stay in the 80's for the CPU and GPU, you have a winner.