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and it makes me curious
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Very impressed with that VID regulation btw, Phoenix.
You still using IA AC DC loadline=10 or did you be a real man and change it to 1 (the lowest value)?
That being said, the change log is in the text file.
Not updating unless there's an actual new Bios setting. Which there isn't
BTW last 2 bioses have something called "Intersil VR Command" added in the CPU VR section. Yet seems totally pointless. Some google search shows something like this added in coreboot a YEAR ago (whatever that is) because some S3 or S4 state wasn't working in Linux or some silly stuff. Absolutely USELESS optionDonald@Paladin44 likes this. -
See if MSI has put in an extra mickey in their firmware. Same as Dellienware normally prefer.
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Nothing new in this Bios except more cancer.
So if you needed 1.30v (1300mv) for stability yo umight need 1305mv (1.305v) for stability after.
Not a big deal.
Skylake boards, according to Baidu, used ver 1.0 mainboard, and Sirgeorge had bad instability with AC DC values of 1, 2 and 3. Seems fine for Kaby lake.Spartan@HIDevolution, Papusan and Donald@Paladin44 like this. -
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I don’t know what are you so happy about? The fact that you got this false sense of security when we know there are 1000 ways of getting infected with or without the spectre and meltdown patch or are you happy about the fact that Microsoft has robbed you from your taptop’s performance?Last edited: Mar 13, 2018Vistar Shook, Kevin@GenTechPC, Falkentyne and 1 other person like this. -
it's possible that the bios display details look younger
so what else i do disable on spectre and meltdown via reg tweak
I also use eset just like you
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The Intel Graphics Driver link has changed:
https://downloadmirror.intel.com/27484/a08/win64_15.65.4.4944.zip
Still listed as v23.20.16.4944, though.hmscott likes this. -
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nVIDIA GeForce Driver updated to v391.24
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Intel WLAN & Bluetooth Drivers updated to v20.40.0
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What are you getting? A GTX 1080 or 1070 version?
7820HK or 7700HQ version?
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I decreased my temps by 10C by changing from Liquid Ultra to Thermal Grizzly Coconut after @Falkentyne and @Papusan suggested it to me and that allowed me to raise my overclock from 4.2 GHz. up to 4.6 GHz. but I keep it at 4.4 GHz to be on the safe side and to keep the temps even lower. Good enough for me.
4.4 GHz is the magical number, if anyone remembers the Devil's Canyon CPU 2 years ago, that was one awesome CPU that clocked at 4.4 GHz out of the box with no overclocking or tweaks needed.Vistar Shook likes this. -
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Be brave.... be like Phoenix....
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Run Cinebench R15Last edited: Mar 22, 2018Falkentyne likes this. -
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bruh. But you as I know, bro @Falkentyne get kicks (wet in the pants) off of good bench scores. From Papusan's Camp 49x@1104cb
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What do you think sounds better? Game like a God, or Game like a Boss?
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But God sounds so much better when you use some English on the sounds.....
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Shh don't say it out loud!! Shh....or the BGA BEAR will have your head! @Papusan
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@Phoenix Poopoosan asked me to do this. so:
cinebench x42-x46 runs. Cache -3 lower than CPU. voltage 1.275v (because i used throttlestop to change speeds), fan speed 100%.
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MSI Battery Calibration updated to v1.0.1801.1701
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Since you changed multi only for one profile, what clocks have you put in the 4 different TS profiles?
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Profile 1: i change to whatever I set in bios because im always changing the clocks every boot (because i'm weird). Just change multi and hit apply. To get cache ratio higher than 36, I have to set max cache ratio manually in Throttlestop. (or I could just use the bios too whatever).
Profile 2: 4200 mhz
Proflie 3: 3500 mhz
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I used to do that then I stopped. Too many BSOD.
If you unlock the voltage for one profile (example: 4700 mhz, 1.275v), then have another profile with "3500 mhz, default voltage" (voltage not unlocked),
When you change to 3500 mhz, the voltage will be 1.275v, because the 3500 mhz profile is using the "default" voltage (which in this case is the last active voltage).
So then you have to set 3500 mhz and an exact voltage, too. (like 1.0v).
One time, I had 3500 mhz @ 1.0v and I selected 4500 mhz, but (Default) voltage. So it used 4500 mhz and 1.0v and instant BSOD.
There are ALSO problems when one profile is set to ADAPTIVE voltage + offset, and another set to STATIC VOLTAGE. or switching back, if one "Option" is not unlocked.
I also did this back before I knew about "IA AC DC Loadline" too.....like I tried 4500 mhz, 1.175v and found I was putting 1.3v into the CPU.......
MSI cancer.
tl;dr: I think the MSI firmware is using "hidden" loadline calibration and maybe something gets messed up when you use Throttlestop to change voltages in windows.
You see @Vistar Shook 's eVGA? He is using HIGHER voltage than me at 4700 mhz but LESS POWER DRAW ....and 4800 mhz, much higher voltage than me but less power draw...and he could not use 4900 mhz even at 1.45v...but i can do cinebench at 4.9 ghz and 1.380v, but the laptop shuts off after a few runs because of the 94C "EC Current trip protection" (this proves that @BeastsForever.TheDragon was telling the complete truth).
I think the eVGA has a lot of vdroop (like desktops with loadline calibration disabled (LLC=off), but MSI is probably using some hidden cancer loadline calibration. Do you remember??
If @Vistar Shook sets IA AC DC Loadline to AUTO (0), he has NO VID BOOST with STATIC VOLTAGE !!! ONLY with adaptive!! BUT MSI HAS VID BOOST WITH STATIC VOLTAGES! CANCER CANCER!! why do you want me to keep playing with cancer?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/evga-sc17-1080-finally-available.807895/page-16
READ please!
Another time when I was changing multiple static voltages in Throttlestop (AFTER I knew about IA AC DC loadline), i had a BSOD during stress test, like the voltage was set wrong.
Like when I used XTU to set power limit to 511W (bios limit was 500W) and time "Unlimited" and hit "Apply" and got another BSOD.......
What works for your premabios Clevo LGA powerbook doesn't always work for BGA jokebooks, Master @PapusanLast edited: Mar 23, 2018Vistar Shook likes this. -
All too long since I tested stock bios, but I mean Clocks, voltage and power settings worked well with TS and stock bios.
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Yes Master Papusan.
i have 5 bios saved profiles. I just go in Bios, load profile and reboot.
I have 960 pro and 950 evo ssd. Only takes 8 seconds to load windows
Right I use override voltage, no offset. Although I have profile#2 in bios, set for 4200 mhz, ADAPTIVE + offset +105. (no offset is unstable, because i REMOVED MSI VID BOOST with IA AC DC Loadline=1 ).
With IA AC DC Loadline=Auto, 4200 mhz adaptive + 105mv offset is about 1.32v (ESTIMATED BY TEMPS AND POWER DRAW!!!)
With IA AC DC LOADLINE=1, 4200 mhz + adaptive + 105mv offset is 1.18v.
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Another problem I had is that when I had multiple Throttlestop profiles to change from adaptive voltage to static voltage (with each profile having an override voltage), if i had CPU Cache slider changed for each profile (to override x36 cache or to override cache -3 bins lower than core), the laptop would take 20 seconds to shut down/reboot. That was annoying...I found it was caused by me overriding the cache slider (e.g. cache and core at exact same speed). like x42 cache x42 core and a different setting on a different profile. (would not happen if this were set in bios this way in "Overclocking performance menu" e.g. min 42, max=42
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Dellienware crippled their Jokes with the new tool who talked with firmware so it couldn't work properly. See their NEW modern useless overclocking controll apps (who don't work properly due crippled power settings). Msi is in same liga if you change a few settings, bruh. When is enough enough?Vistar Shook likes this. -
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Yes I can change these settings with Throttlestop.
I just set 4.7 ghz with 1.2754v identical to Bios and did a test run. It was fine.
The problems seem to be when I go back and forth with different voltages. Maybe the loadlines are not working properly sometimes? i don't know. Or maybe I simply wasn't stable?
but I do know something else and i have a screenshot:
4.7 ghz, 1.25v, prime 95 small FFT:
GPU idle: CPU=101 watts.
GPU full speed on desktop: CPU 95 watts.
(but temps are the same).
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Can you forgive me?
Have you checked if this happen with lower overclock, the way MSI want you to run the notebook (oc'd by MSI and stock).
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