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    MSI Skylake Laptop predictions

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by superguy25, Aug 24, 2015.

  1. hmscott

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    The Microcenter Web Store - you might need to Change Location to it to see this with the i7-6820HK :

    http://www.microcenter.com/product/454617/GT72_Dominator-019_173_Laptop_Computer_-_Aluminum_Black

    It is in stock and you can order it now :)
     
    hmscott, Sep 24, 2015
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    superguy25, Sep 24, 2015
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    Doesn't it seem odd, to have the same CPU, the 6820HK in two laptops so far apart in pricing?

    $4250 US for the Special Edition with new 980 GPU, and $1600 US for the 970m model, and they both have the same CPU, the 6820HK.

    Seems like Intel is spreading first the Skylake offerings pretty thin.
     
    hmscott, Sep 25, 2015
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    $4250!!! For that it better give me a hand job while I use it... Thanks msi for putting that thing out of reach for so many of us.
     
    CharlesV, Sep 25, 2015
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    Its not a direct conversion. If i remember right, the GT80 was 5,000 EUROS but only $3,699 in the US.
     
    mason2smart, Sep 25, 2015
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    I've been saving for a new GT72s so I hope they aren't that much. Waiting patiently MSI!!!!!
     
    CharlesV, Sep 25, 2015
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    I've been keeping an eye on this and the new Asus g752. Unfortunately the pricing on the new Skylake models with 980gpu seems to be similar between the two brands. Hope this is just for the extremely loaded models.....we can only wait and see
     
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    Here's what I know at this point.

    GT72 base price with a 3 GB 970m and no SSD starts at $1599 from one retailer we've seen.

    Samsung PCI-E SSDs are pricing out at $129, $219, and $399 for 128 GB, 256 GB, and 512 GB, respectively, at Newegg.

    Retail price difference between a 970m and a 980m at rjtech is $270 (for 6 GB/8GB versions). This will give us a good approximation.

    So for a GT72, we should see prices somewhere around this:

    Base: $1599
    970m based with SSD: $1728, $1818, and $1998, depending on SSD size.
    980m based with SSD: $1998, $2088, and $2397, depending on SSD size.

    GS60, we'll see base with 128GB at $1699 at Gentech. Assuming MSI ships 256 or 512 GB versions, we'll be looking at approximately $1789 and $1969, respectively.

    We don't know what the GT72S will price out at yet. However, with the better IPS panel and the different chipset (CM236), I'm going to bet at least a $100 premium over the GT72 for an otherwise similar config. We also don't know how much the GTX 980 will price out at, but I'd add a few hundred for that card at least.

    And of course, prices varying depending on customizations from our friends at Gentech, PowerNotebooks, Xotic, etc.

    So those are my guesses at this point. :) Thoughts?
     
    superguy25, Sep 25, 2015
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    Idk I have about a $4.5k limit :D
     
    mason2smart, Sep 25, 2015
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    Just guessing - I'm thinking a fully loaded GT72S with a GTX980 will be around $3000. You'd have plenty left over - maybe buy a GS60 too for the portability at that point? :D
     
    superguy25, Sep 25, 2015
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    Nah I was just gonna go for a gt80 and lug it around every day :D
     
    mason2smart, Sep 25, 2015
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    Lol - a glutton for punishment. :D

    That thing's a beast. MicroCenter had one sitting out and that was just way too big for me. I'm even on the fence about the GT72S, but the upgradability and support for VT-d has me planning on getting it at the moment. I've really grown to like the 15" platform.
     
    superguy25, Sep 25, 2015
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    It's not much bigger than the 72. It is much thicker than my current laptop tho (Razer blade pro) So it's quite a jump for me.
     
    mason2smart, Sep 25, 2015
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    VT-d?
     
    mason2smart, Sep 25, 2015
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    Direct I/O for virtualization support. It allows direct access to the hardware devices so you can use them as intended. An Nvidia card will appear as an Nvidia card rather than a generic VGA adapter, so you'd be able to use the full capabilities of the card. It also increases performance.

    Not a huge benefit if you don't use VMs, like VMware workstation. But for those who do and like to game as well, it can be pretty helpful.
     
    superguy25, Sep 25, 2015
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    As far as I know everything should be announced tomorrow :)
     
    mason2smart, Sep 26, 2015
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    Finally! :D

    Question is now - is the embargo up in the morning or evening? :)
     
    superguy25, Sep 26, 2015
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    Announcements on a Sunday? Isn't that a bit unrealistic??
     
    JMattes, Sep 26, 2015
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    That's the date I saw online
     
    mason2smart, Sep 26, 2015
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    Nvidia said they would be out by the end of the month
     
    mason2smart, Sep 26, 2015
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    Yea I heard from a few vendors they expect it in a week or so.. tomorrow would be nice
     
    JMattes, Sep 26, 2015
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    The gt80 or 72s?
     
    mason2smart, Sep 26, 2015
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    superguy25, Sep 27, 2015
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    Our video review of GT72 and GS60 is up:




     
    GenTechPC, Sep 27, 2015
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    GenTechPC thanks for reviews
    but the performance of the i7-6820HK is bad Against i7 5950HQ
    the i7 5950HQ is the best cpu on laptops for now
     
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    Where have you seen that Ansem?

    Notice the improved CPU cooling in this model.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 27, 2015
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    No new gt80?
    Where are the 990m (980) models?
     
    mason2smart, Sep 27, 2015
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    Patience grasshopper, Nvidia are let to launch any new parts and the GT80 was known to be coming later when it is ready.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 27, 2015
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    Yea but nvidia says they will be out by the end of the month....
     
    mason2smart, Sep 27, 2015
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    Meaker, I've noticed the updated cooling, but what have they done to improve that on the CPU? Different fan hardware, or is it software related?
     
    Gearhunter, Sep 27, 2015
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    The CPU is a new architecture and is unlocked :) @Gearhunter
     
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    superguy25, pick it up next time you are in MicroCenter, the GT80 is surprisingly light for it's size. Due to the keyboard taking up the front area, and being less dense than the component area, the mass is much less than you would expect.

    The GT80's not svelte, but in the provided backpack, the MSI Hermes, it's not a tough carry. The GT72 comes with the same backpack.
    http://www.msi.com/collections/pages/MSI-Hermes-Backpack.html

    It's about the same weight as my G750JH.
     
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    Hi Gentec, are g-sync working on the GT72 models?

    Looks like the US specs are more correct. no more 75hz panel. its 60hz, as its on mine and as comfirmed by MSI HQ.

    G-sync still does not work correctly on my gt72s.
     
    jamesoth, Sep 27, 2015
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    Gentech said of the new gt72 is opened the warranty will be void? I thought msi didn't care?

    Gentech, when do you think you will have a review of the 72s on YouTube?
     
    mason2smart, Sep 27, 2015
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    MSI has said many times, that you don't void the warranty unless you break something.
     
    Kevin, Sep 27, 2015
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    Com me in MSI! Release the GT80 Already!
     
    mason2smart, Sep 27, 2015
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    is the SuperPort also support Thunderbolt 3 or just USB3.1?
     
    steakikan, Sep 27, 2015
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    I'm wanting to know if it'll support eGPUs.
     
    superguy25, Sep 28, 2015
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    Super Port supports USB3.1, Thunderbolt3.0, DisplayPort2, 5v 3amp charging
     
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    So, in theory, it should support the eGPU using Thunderbolt 3.
     
    superguy25, Sep 28, 2015
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    If this is real then the connectivity rating of this notebook will be very good (only missing is express port but who needs them when you got TB3).
     
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    Just take a look on the GT72S with 980M, there is 400 price difference simply because one have less 16G of RAM


    Boring boring Chelsea
     
    geniusfb, Sep 28, 2015
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    Lol there has to be something else that's different?
     
    mason2smart, Sep 28, 2015
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    The 220 has 2x 128GB PCIe drives vs 219 1x 128GB PCIe drive.
     
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    Just save yourself some money and buy a -219 from one of our boutique resellers here with another 128GB SSD and 32GB of RAM. You can save yourself around $150. ;)
     
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    lol
     
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    Yes G-Sync is working. What kind of issue you are having?



    It's been discuss several times, warranty void sticker still there just in case user damage the components during upgrade.
     
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    Ansem, yes, the 6820HK needs a XTU / ThrottleStop OC profile to show it's value. The article you referenced is 4.0ghz OC, but hopefully it can do a bit better.

    Some mention that it is locked to a max of 4.0ghz though, so we need more info / confirmation.

    At stock speeds, the 6820HK is doing a bit better than I expected. I thought the 6820HK would be closer to a 4720HQ, but it beats that, and edges just past the 6700HQ.

    I wish these sites would list the 5950HQ in their comparisons, but notebookcheck in particular has removed the benchmark results they had for the 5950HQ.

    According to my own tests the 6820HK @ 4ghz is about the same or 5-10% faster than the 5950HQ @ 4ghz. Same goes for the 6700K @ 4ghz, but it can OC further than 4ghz.
     
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