New GS63 & GS73VR with GTX1070?

Hello gbenedetto, your MSI GS63VR that MSI send to you have a GTX 1070 Max Q of course, as the new MSI GS73VR 7RG/RX, isn't this?

Are you sure that MSI will refresh the GS plateform with the GTX 1080 Max Q? The Asus Zephyrus is very attractive, but the fact that it's a 15,6" laptop, no 2,5" emplacement for a HDD, 8GB of RAM soldering on the MB ... I'm not so interested finally .

If MSI will refresh for sure the GS serie, and make a MSI GS73VR with a GTX 1080 Max Q, and with a 17,3" FHD IPS HDR 120Hz 3ms display with G-Sync (please MSI do it with G-sync ), so I will wait for the next MSI GS73VR 7RG, bye the 15,6" Asus Zephyrus .

Yeah, it's a big ******** not to allow G-Sync on the GS display, almost all the other competitor have G-Sync display option for the same kind of laptop (high end gaming laptop)

 

So far 1080 max q is exclusive for Asus... Surely next year we will see more devices with the gtx1080 max q.. ASUS rep now is sending me a Zephyrus as well soon I will be able to compare both.. .Iit is nice to now work on the gaming strategy for latinamerica .. I am getting producta for free finally hehe he

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Not sure if the exclusivity claim is accurate as the Aorus X5 MD also has the 1080 Max-Q..

https://www.aorus.com/product-detail.php?p=214

 

Lucky you .

I hope I won't wait so long for the next MSI GS73VR 7RG with GTX 1080 Max Q, and hope too that MSI make the FHD IPS G-Sync 120Hz 3ms HDR display. If it's the next year, waiting will be very long for me , if it's by the end of the year, it's better for me .

I saw that a few days ago too, why Asus would have the exclusivity for the GTX 1080 Max Q?

 

It'll be interesting the GPU temps at full load and power consumption with CPU & GPU full load. 180W AC adapter should be enough with a 7700HQ / 1070 max-Q.

Probably will wait for Coffee Lake. With a bit of luck, more single-core performance and 6 cores in a GS.

 

I talked to Ken from Gentech PC extensively about the MSI gs63vr with the GTX1070 Max-Q. He helped me in my decision to purchase this laptop, and was very helpful in making this important decision. I look forward to seeing how it will perform with my studies and gaming.

 

A long wait for nothing, huh?

Both the Raider and Titan are hundreds less ($2500 vs $2300 vs $2100) and have better specs. Is slimness really that much of a premium?

Xotic is showing the previous model way down at $1800 now, are they really charging $700 just for the 1070 upgrade?

 

The Raider isn't that well priced for what it offers. GT72S was much better for the money and had thunderbolt.

 

Spoiler: Like an overclocked 1060.

 

Well I saw the difference between the GL702VS with a GTX 1070 that scored 12733 on Firestrike, and the MSI GS63VR GTX 1070 Max-Q scored a 12003 on the same benchmark. So while yes, there is a difference of 730, that isn't all too far off from the original GPU that is in a thicker and louder chassis. To be honest, what I am hoping to get out of the Max-Q is a quieter design that consumes less power but achieves similar performance. That way I can game without bugging other people in public.

I know that some people might come here posting GTX 1070 scores that will be around 13000 and up, but with the free liquid metal offered on the CPU and GPU I got from GenTech PC, I am hoping that I can get a bit more performance out of the Max-Q design as well. In all honesty, 12003 isn't that bad of a score, and certainly above what an overclocked GTX 1060 could do in such a small laptop.

Asus GL702VS review:



MSI GS63VR GTX 1070 Max-Q review:

 

Anyone knows where the release date per country can be found?
Thanks

 

Not having G-Sync is a instant no buy in this day and age.
What was MSI thinking!

 

Probably to have Nvidia Optimus for power efficiency. Should be a switch and reboot to get G-sync like Clevo/Sager or whatever does.

 

+1, what a shame MSI, at this price, and actually, having a gaming laptop without a G-Sync display it's a pitiful.

Power efficiency on a gaming laptop, seriously? And what is the power consumption difference between a G-Sync display and a classic display on a laptop? IMHO, That must be really marginal.

I hope the next refresh of the MSI GS73VR will have a G-Sync display this time, with the GTX 1080 Max Q, and the 120Hz 3ms HDR display as promised.

Any news about this next refresh of the MSI GS73VR? Because in France, the Asus Zephyrus GX501 VI is too expensive, as usual, in France, all is always much expensive than elsewhere ; in the USA, the Asus Zephyrus GX501 VI cost 2600-2700$ and with Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, in France, it's cost 3200€ for the same configuration (i7 7700HQ, 16GB of RAM, 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD ...), but with Windows 10 Familial, only for that, I hate to
live in France, we pays too expensive for many things.

 

Power efficiency is important for all computers (and vehicles). It would suck to have an idling 1060+ when you are watching Youtube, programming, day trading stocks, anything that doesn't need the GPU. Otherwise battery life would be dented. If it could support both Optimus and G-Sync, it would be ideal. Although the mandatory reboot is annoying.
1080 Max-Q in this chassis is unlikely. Just not enough space for cooling.

I guess buy used if customs doesn't hurt.

 

After starting this post back in January... Finally I got mine thanks to my friends from MSI. .. Soon I will be testing.. And comparing the old one with this new one...



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The box inventory label doesn't say Max-Q for the GPU, and the product page only has footnotes about Max-Q in the Overview, the Specification tab on the product page just says 1070, no mention of Max-Q.
https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GS63VR-Stealth-Pro-7th-Gen-GEFORCE-GTX-1070.html#hero-specification

Does the Driver or System control panel show Max-Q for the 1070?

Also, no mention of G-sync, but that doesn't mean it doesn't, does it have G-sync?

I prefer IPS panel's too, especially outside, and after viewing only IPS for years, I can easily spot the TN washed out look. But, I guess the 120 FPS feature is nice; I'd probably just get a nice external high FPS "IPS" monitor and keep a 60hz IPS as the internal display.

Looking forward to your review

 

Agree with the screen.. I prefer the old one with IPS.
The nvidia control panel shows gtx1070 with max Q design..
There is no Gsync since has Optimus..

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MSI was IPS before the GS63/73VR 1080p refresh, the refresh is TN?

 

The 120hz 3ms panel is TN... The Msi site is listing other options ask Full HD and 4K IPS level...

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Can you give us a link for the pages you are looking at?

Here in the US the only option for the GS63VR is the 120hz TN panel:

15.6" FHD (1920*1080), 120Hz 3ms Wideview 94%NTSC Color Anti-Glare
https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GS73VR-Stealth-Pro-7th-Gen-GEFORCE-GTX-1070.html#hero-overview

 

Hi guys, any news about a possible MSI GS73VR 7RG with 8th Intel CPU (8700HQ) the GTX 1080 Max Q GPU and G-Sync display finally? 'cuz I'm still waiting for this model, I don't want to buy the current MSI GS73VR 7RG (i7 7700HQ, Nvidia GTX 1070 Max Q), nor the Asus ROG Zephyrus, I want a 17,3"" laptop, with a 2,5" slot, and with 2 real memory slots, not only one slot like the Asus ROG Zephyrus (and the other memory slot soldered).

And why there is only one laptop with the Nvidia GTX 1080 Max Q curently (Asus ROG Zephyrus)? Where are the others models with Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 Max Q eh?

 

8th gen standard voltage cpu like 8700hq should not come out this year and gs73's cooling system is not good enough for 1080 even maxQ

 

Er, 8700HQ won't be out until next year. You are correct about nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Max-Q...they won't ever come to the GS series.

 

I said "should not" though...

 

Yes, you did and I missed that. I apologize. You are correct on both counts.

 

No problem for the 8th CPU gen, I can still wait.

GS73VR cooling system not enough for a GTX 1080 Max Q, why? The Asus ROG Zephyrus is a 15,6" laptop and it has a GTX 1080 Max Q in 16,9mm of height, why MSI couldn't make a new cooling system (the same system to the Asus ROG Zephyrus for example) to put a 1080 Max Q in the GS73? I still don't understand why. Aorus have a laptop with a full GTX 1080 (X7 DT v7) in 25,5mm of height, and another laptop with a GTX 1080 Max Q (X5 MD) in 22,9mm of height.

 

I'd guess it's just not designed for it. When a system is designed, the temperature of the intended components is accounted for. If the system's effective cooling capability happens to cover other parts, great, but that's not the intent. It would likely take the form of a redesign, maybe a GS75VR or something.

 

That's right, if user changes the GPU to a higher power consuming one that exceeds system's designated thermal capacity then it will have trouble cooling off the GPU. Size of heatsink block and fan size/speed can all contribute to its thermal capacity.

 

Not wrong guys, it's for these reason I expect the next MSI GS73VR (or 75 as you suggest it), see if MSI put the GTX 1080 Max Q, in the current similar frame. I really hope because I want & need the GTX 1080 Max Q in these laptop, just like the FHD IPS G-Sync 3/5ms HDR 120Hz display.

 

Or, MSI tunes the BIOS & EC to accommodate the GPU but with slightly compromised performance which is still acceptable.

 

Yeah, like underclock the GPU to avoid throttle, but I would prefer that MSI create a new cooling system for the GS73VR, in the same frame, and why not the same system of the Asus ROG Zephyrus, rather than underclock the GPU to put the GTX 1080 Max Q in the MSI GS73VR.

I know that it's complicated, but Asus managed there to put the GTX 1080 Max Q in the ROG Zephyrus, that would be really cool for me, and I will buy surely this laptop.

 

Usually, they won't do that to an existing SKU because once a SKU is made it remains as is unless the project manager of SKU finds such revision is needed which is extremely rare. Therefore, they usually will need to be a new SKU with better specification for such changes to be included.

 

Buy the 17" Asus G701 Zephyrus Max-Q 1080, problem solved

 

May be soon I hope, a new MSI GS73VR (or 75) with the GTX 1080 Max Q, and a FHD IPS G-Sync 3/5ms HDR 120Hz display, in the current similar frame, and with the 8th Intel CPU gen too. That would be the perfect laptop for me ; enough powerfull and beautifull (I love the current MSI GS73VR design, dimensions and color).

 

Not wrong, but not thank you, because it's a 15,6" laptop, I prefer a 17,3" laptop, it's has a RAM soldered on his MB, and with Windows 10 Family, the whole for 3200€ in France. In USA, it cost 2700$, and it run with Windows 10 Pro ...

Wait, Asus ROG Zephyrus G701 oO? There doesn't exit (yet ?), only the Asus ROG Zephyrus GX501 exist currently.

 

Probably best to follow up in the Asus GX501 thread, that's where all the Asus ROG Zephyrus Max-Q 1080 talk is going on... all MSI GS63 / GS73 here

It's more likely that Asus will come out with a GX701 than MSI put's a Max-Q 1080 in the GS73VR, making it an MSI Zephyrus...

MSI already stretched to fit a full 1070 in the GS73, pretty unlikely they will put out a Max-Q 1080 model.

 

Do you have a link of this thread, I'm not able to find it, thank you .

If Asus has a 17,3" version of his ROG Zephyrus, but without RAM soldered on the MB, with a 2,5" emplacement, the same design/color and cooling system, I buy it immediately for sure.

 

ASUS ROG Zephyrus GX501 Owner's Lounge
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...01-owners-lounge.805107/page-66#post-10602891

 

Big thank you man .

I will read this thread to find more informations about the hypothetical Asus ROG Zephyrus GX701 .

 

To be honest, while I know the MQ is the next logical step and would guess that's what they're working on, I'd almost rather see it remain in the current form until whenever Volta goes mobile and see what if any improvements to performance they can get out the platform without the MQ chip.

 

Has anyone gotten a 1070 max-q MSI GS63VR/GS73VR laptop and tried overclocking it to get close to the default clock speed of a regular notebook 1070? There seems to be thermal headroom to do so.
Don't know if it would be more effective to create a new thread but I like this one.

 

don't believe its possible, it is TDP limit not thermal limit. (which in 10th gen not software customable) common problem with 10th gen graphics card. need confirm through

 

Hy guys, it's still me. Any news about the next MSI GS73VR, the 2018/2019 edition, with an Intel Coffee Lake i7 87000HQ, a Nvidia GTX 1080 Max Q, the same FHD 120Hz display but G-Sync and why not IPS HDR? A new cooling design? A fingerprint sensor in the trackpad?

 

Next gen Intel CPUs are supposed to be released in late 1st Qtr or early 2nd Qtr next year.

We will have to wait until then to see what changes will be made...but don't count on nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Max-Q.

 

Great news for the Coffee Lake mobile CPU, it's for soon thus. Thank yout for this information .

I'm very angry to listen that, because the Asus ROG Zephyrus GX501 have this one, what the heck with this decision to not include a Nvidia GTX 1080 Max Q in the MSI GS73VR? I still don't understand this decision, same misunderstanding for the G-Sync.

 

From what I'm reading, Volta should be out some time next year as well - thinking spring. It'd be great if we could get a good CFL and Volta combo going.

 

There will never be a GeForce Volta GPU. That is for TESLA only.

Next gen NVIDIA GeForce won't be released until late next year.

 

I just read about Ampere based on what you said. Bottom line is we're going to have some sort of new architecture next year. I don't care what they call it - Volta, Ampere, Farraday, whatever. I just look forward to it coming out.

With Coffee Lake and a new GPU architecture, 2018 should be a good year.

 

With all the consumer hype you'd think they might double down and call the next GTX cards Volta too, though I'd understand if they went with something else.