New GS63 & GS73VR with GTX1070?

That saddens me. It is seen that if we want that laptop we will have to wait a lot ...

 

http://www.drako.it/drako_catalog/product_info.php?products_id=19780

here is a 15' with 1070 and 4K display

 

If it's the case with the GE62, it's going to be another turn-around for me. Actually I don't mind it being a little thicker (but not 50mm like my GT72, that is just terribly inconvenient), but those pictures showing the new vents design - I'm not really a fan of that, the stealth pro has just much more "professional" look in my opinion. And they could fit at least 4 USB3 ports (just like on GS63), but that's also only a matter of preference. I'm soo torn between the GS63vr and GE62vr - looks and utility vs performance..... I really can't wait for reviews of the GE62 and GS63 (with that new 1070 - still probably more than a month of waiting, damn ).


At least my reseller is finally going to send me a refund for my broken GS63. So now it's just "pick the right one, man".

 

Yeah, I totally understand your point. I have to decide if the GS63VR with the gimped 1070 is worth it. Otherwise I may have to start looking for other options, which are few and far between. It all depends on the performance of the gimped 1070, really.

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Exactly. Also in respect of futureproofing - I'd like to stick with my notebook 3-4 years, so I'm looking for a compromise between portability/looks/performance and so far the only one relatively ruling in those aspects are GS63vr notebooks. I'd consider Asus GL502VS (quite light, dimensions just like GE62) with a full 1070, but those stupid orange WASD keys... But still, all of that depends on how the new 1070 GS63 will turn out to be - maybe it will be a dream machine.

 

If you are considering the ASUS, I would strongly recommend that you take a look at the Kaby Lake owners and discussion thread, since some people are reporting CPU temps of 98C. It would need a lot of tuning. And it weighs 5.73 lbs according to Notebookcheck's review of the Skylake model.

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Hm... That is strange. Anyway, the best bet will probably be to wait for GE62vr (1070) reviews and release of the new GS63vr, I guess...

 

MSI is going to need some real thermal wizardry to prevent the GS63VR (1070) from overheating, 90W TDP or not. Let us hope Gandalf works for MSI

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I agree, it has to come down to what you're looking for in your laptop.

For me, I need at least GTX 1060 performance and I also need supreme portability since I will be carrying this thing with me every day. My last notebook was a Sony Vaio VPCZ1 and that was over an inch thick and not very heavy, and I don't want to get much less portable than that. It had a tiny footprint to be sure, but for me it's the weight that counts. I travel a lot during the day every single day (going to and from various locations) and after a while, a heavy laptop simply gets tiring since I live in a city where I use public transport and can't just toss it in the passenger seat.

So with that said, the GS63VR definitely ticks off my portability checkbox. I don't mind the larger footprint due to screensize as I'm getting older and my Surface Pro 2 is starting to become an eyestrain. 15 inches is okay to me now when it didn't use to be.

In conclusion, if the gimped 1070 (like GTX 1065) is still better tan a GTX 1060, I'll be getting this still I think. If it's equally as poweful as a 1060 in the extreme worst case, I'll just get a 14-incher.

The prime concern is now did they redesign the cooling so that it can handle the extra 10w, and if so, did it compromise portability?

Because if it did, then I'm "stepping down" to 14-incher, probably the Aero despite it's unappealing sound profile.

 

Which posts? Generally with the Asus laptops, undervolting solves reduces the heat enough, and looking at the temps over time - before / while / during fan speed ramp up it shows the temps are much lower once the fans get going and stay running during gaming.

Looking at only the peak temp from right at the loading start before the fans get going you get a high reading, but it's only then and a fleeting event.

Use hwinfo64 to log readings, sample every 2 seconds, then you can see this behavior and note how cool it runs during most of the runtime for the game.

Asus laptops have a reputation for running very quietly most of the time, and this is why, slow to ramp up cooling fans keeps things quiet - until it's clear the use is going to continue and then the fans kick in to reduce temps.

It's a feature

 

I'm interested to hear how loud the fans will be.

Someone NEEDS to record a video of this with a good microphone. I'm guessing it will be howling like sirens

 

What panels will the new 120hz ones be on the 63vr/73vr? And do they have gsync?


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check the panel in my signature, that's the one

 

Sweet! They have gsync now. The 15.6 counterpart has gsync as well?

 

I don't know, mine has a BIOS issue that is preventing GSYNC from being enabled but everyone is saying that it is GSYNC enabled. Check from whoever you are buying it from

 

@Phoenix 's lack of G-sync on his GT73VR is unusual, all the owners reports for the GT73VR show it has it - IDK what's going on with his unit.

As far as the GS63/GS73 1070 - no confirmed release info yet.

 

@Phoenix are you satisfied with your laptop? Aside of the Gsync thing.
Seems like nice thing to have if you do not care about this being quite a brick.

 

The GSYNC issue will be fixed soon. This is one if the best laptops I ever owned i terms of the keyboard, screen, and overall package. I advice you to pick one up from HIDevolution

 

Hello guys, I'm a fresh new french member, I was registered on this forum because my next laptop will be the beautifull MSI GS73VR 7RG, in France we are lucky because the MSI GS73VR 7RG is already officially announced and it will be available the 02/21/2017, price start at 2300€.

I'm very interested by this laptop, the MSI GS73VR 7RG (not the MSI GS73VR 7RF with the GTX106), because I use only 17,3" laptop, and I want a laptop with a GTX 1070 (and i7 7700HQ of course ), there is also the Aorus X7 v6/7, but it's more thicker, more heavier, the screen is less borderless ... I prefer the MSI GS73VR 7RG, with his 1,96cm of thickness, his weight of 2,43Kg.

The FHD on the MSI is a better solution to save the GTX1070, I want to put all the settings on maximum quality in game, and with this FHD display, it's better to have more FPS, on the Aorus X7 v6/7 with his QHD display with the GTX1070 it's too limit IMHO, I think I couldn't put all the settings on maximum quality in game.

Actually, I have the Dell S2417DG monitor (24" TN QHD G-Sync 144Hz display) plugged to an EVGA GTX980Ti Classified on an Asus Z170 Deluxe MB work with an i7 6700K stock and 16GB of DDR4 RAM (Kingston HyperX Fury 2666MHz CL15), and with all the settings on maximum quality in game, my FPS is not very high (25-30FPS on Rise of The Tomb Raider, 80FPS on Crysis/Crysis Warhead ...), so FHD display is a better solution to put all the settings on maximum quality in game and have high FPS with the GTX1070 than a QHD display with a GTX1070.

One thing I don't know, and I don't understand very well ; Phoenix, you said to ranjim the MSI GS73VR 7 have a G-Sync display, but I don't see this specification, there are only 2 display options ; a TN FHD 120Hz 5ms display, and an FHD IPS display (no G-Sync mentionned). Your MSI GT73VR 7RF seems have a G-Sync display, but I'm not very sure for the GS73VR 7RG.

If the MSI GS73VR 7RG comes with a optional FHD IPS G-Sync display, may be I will buy this one, the best would be a FHD IPS G-Sync 120Hz 5ms display option.

 

Hi there,
Personally I don't think GS73/63 will be available with G-sync, but only time will tell.
Also the 120Hz/5ms is only a TN panel as far as I know, but indeed, the combination you've named would be perfect. I'd still prefer OLED instead of IPS, but that's a little too much to want.

 

Hi tobi777,

Yeah I know, it's very regrettable, because other laptops have FHD IPS G-Sync display like the Aorus X7 v6. But FHD TN 120Hz 5ms display it's already very good.

Laptops with OLED diplay are very rare, only 3 models exist there seems to me. And if the MSI GS73VR 7RG had a 17,3" OLED display, I think that would have cost too expensive IMHO.

I'm in a hurry which this MSI GS73VR 7RG is available so that it's tested and that I can decide to buy it.

 

http://www.ncix.com/detail/msi-stealth-pro-gs63vr-7rg-011ca-29-138981.htm

Full proper listing on the Canadian NCIX site for a GS63VR

expensive... but also a lot of stuff in it

 

You can find an equivalent listing on GenTechPC at USD 2099.00

I'm still waiting for reviews of the laptop, and I'm getting impatient @hmscott @tobi777 @CedricFP

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Some websites just list the unconfirmed item/price just to get into the top search results

 

I don't think GenTechPC is listing unconfirmed stuff - earlier in this thread you will see the promotional trailer for the GS73VR 1070. And their prices seem appropriate, but only time will tell.

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Agreed, I'm getting impatient, too, lol! I've been thinking about it and as long as there are no thermal issues, if the neutered 1070 still performs better than a 1060, then this is still a better buy than a GTX 1060 laptop for me.

It's a little disappointing obviously we're getting a low TDP version, perhaps we can even call it the "1070m", but obviously you can't work miracles wrt to cooling, and if the chasis really is staying the same 17.7mm thick...

Reviews are, of course, going to be the deciding factor.

 

Exactly, the same here... I'm surprised that there're not any reviews of the new 1070 GE62mvr as it's on the shelves for some time now. Still not sure if I'm gonna be able to get used to that indent lip on the GS63vr's keyboard... GS73vr is quite large and weighs the same as GE62mvr...

 

Speculation with only rumors and assumptions is the hallmark of NBR! How dare you stray and wait for hard info!

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Haha what do you speculate that the 90W 1070's performance will be?

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A UHD display with a GTX1070, and without G-Sync, I don't think it's a good idea for play comfortably .

Moreover, the UHD display is expensive paid, whereas with a FHD TN 120Hz 5ms display or a FHD IPS G-Sync display, it's less expensive, and I think you can play with all the settings on maximum quality in game.

That would be unhappy , but they're able to do it .

Me too I'm still waiting for reviews, but only for the MSI GS73VR 7RG , not for the MSI GS63VR 7RG, and with the GTX1070 an FHD display, not with the GTX1060 or with the UHD display.

 

Just received a reply from GenTechPC with regards to the GS63VR 1070. They say that it is on pre-order and that ETA of the first shipment is mid-Feb. They also have confirmed that they will be doing a video review.

I'm waiting on thermals and noise before I decide on whether to buy or not to pick this up as my next laptop.

@hmscott @CedricFP @tobi777

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Wow, i hope it is delayed, just ordered my gs63 1060 a week ago.... ....at least I don't play any too demanding games i should be ok. I wonder what the price diff for US will be between the 1060 and 1070.

 

I really wouldnt worry. I chose my gs43VR 1060 over an asus gl502vs 1070 that I bought and returned. The 1060 is more than powerful enough for years to come. It compares to a previous desktop 980. I get crazy benchmarks as well. I had a laptop with a 4 gig 960m in it and my 1060 card is like 4 times faster.

 

one thing is for sure.
There's a gs63 with 1050ti. Still more expensive than other 1050ti's

come on.....

 

So, bad news, in France, the MSI GS73VR 7RG is delayed by Materiel to the 04/03/2017 , initialy announced for the 01/31/2017, delayed first time to the 02/23/2017, then the 03/06/2017, and now the 04/03/2017, really really sad about this news .

And no answer of MSI for his disponibility .

 

Ouch, all the way until April, eh? Feels like I've been waiting forever to get a new notebook!

 

DAMMIT! I just want this computer! It's perfect! Whyyyyyyyyy

 

Damn. If is April then I give up and go for GT

 

Yeah, I know that it's hard to hear, but I always had this problem when I wanted a new laptop, same situation when I bought my ex Aorus X7. The good news, it's that I will be able to keep the money when it will be available because I didn't have the money yet to buy it. If MSI delayed this laptop, may be it's to fixe some issues with it, I prefer that they do like that rather than to come it now, and to have problems with it.

Me too I want this laptop (MSI, if you hear me ), but actually no other choice to wait unfortunatly .

If you don't care about the thickness, so no need to wait this MSI GS73VR 7RG yes, go for a GT .

 

I will NOT do a GT. I bought a GT72 3 years ago and LOVE it but I need something more portable. My backpack is taking a beating from it and so is my back hahah. It's not JUST the computer but the power supply too and everything else I need to carry. When the laptop AND power supply is lighter than just the weight of my old laptop, I gotta do it.

So I guess I'm waiting _O

 

I agree here. I value portability first and foremost as this thing will be making at least two commutes, per day, six days a week, and most of them by public transport. Can't be carrying around a bulky monster, even if thermal sacrifices to the entropy gods have to be made.

 

Anyone can confirm it really delay until April? Maybe I'll grab GS with 1060 then fit with razor core in future.

 

I called my provider and he told me that the GS63VR 7RG (with gtx 1070) should arrive in early March... I hope...

Mattia

 

I emailed GenTechPC and they said that there was no delay to April. They expect the first shipment in 2 weeks.

@CedricFP @hmscott @tobi777

 

From GenTechPC: https://www.gentechpc.com/MSI-GS73V...a-GTX-1070-p/msi-gs73vr-stealth-pro-4k-70.htm

Only UHD version, @Kevin@GenTechPC will there be a FHD 120Hz package?

Also what's with the "1TB Samsung SM961 V-NAND NVMe, Max Sequential Read Up to 3,200 MB/s + $605 [Add $605.00]" option? That seems steep to me (HIDevolution: 1TB SM961: $455 in the 7RF).

Edit: also also, is that really a GSYNC PLS UHD display? If so, does the laptop support Optimus or will the battery life suffer?

 

No there won't be a FHD version as far as I know, only the UHD version.

MSI didn't mention it comes with G-Sync so we will know when shipments is here. Like GT72VR, MSI says it doesn't have G-Sync but turned out all of them has G-Sync.

We haven't got the shipment yet so we will know everything about it once it's here. One thing I do know is that the GTX1070 on GS series will be a special edition.

Samsung SSD prices are not very stable since November 2016 due to factory issues, the price goes up and down every week.

 

GenTechPC - could you specify when exactly GS73VR 7RG will arrive ?
Is it confirmed that there won't be a FHD version ?
I'm waiting only for FHD version with GTX1070.

 

Will there be a 15.6 inch with a FHD screen?

"GTX 1080 in a thinbook is fine" -Razer

 

I am also waiting for the model with 1070 fhd.
this french site has got it
http://www.materiel.net/ordinateur-portable/msi-gs73vr-7rg-013fr-138833.html

 

It does seem like they just took the 7RF model and put all the same info but changed the 1060 to a 1070. If you read at the bottom of the features list it talks about it having a 1060.