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    New GS63 & GS73VR with GTX1070?

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by gbenedetto, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. grzegorznw

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    Hi

    Any news about MSI GS73VR-7RG ?
     
  2. Mattia

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    bad news, gs63vr 7rg model delayed in mid-April...
     
  3. metisag

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    How do you know that.?
     
  4. Mattia

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    I called the seller...
     
  5. Domingo Gomez

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    That's a damn shame... All I cared about was having a fhd 120hz version. 1060 is fine in the gs series but a 1070 would've been so much better with a healthy undervolt for thermals and battery life... Oh well the gl702vs-rs71 is only a half pound heavier and a bigger battery
     
  6. Kevin

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    Would make no sense, to not have a SKU with the 120Hz FHD screen.
     
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    not nice keyboard on gl702
     
  8. Domingo Gomez

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    True but it's just 0.3mm travel difference and boring lighting. Not worth a step down from 1070
     
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  9. GenTechPC

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    I already sent your post link to MSI and suggest a FHD with 120Hz screen. MSI listens to customers so hopefully it will happen. :)
     
  10. norgei

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    I come back on this thread (I hadn't seen that there were new answers :eek:, the email notification system seems not to work :confused:).

    So I will clarify the thruth in my country, in France, the MSI GS73VR 7RG with the TN FHD 120Hz display with the GTX1070 exist, it's real (MSI FB confirmed it to me), and the seller Materiel sells it. German sellers also have this version, the price of 2300€ is a good indicator, it's the price for the MSI GS73VR 7RG with TN FHD 120Hz display, GTX1070, 256GB SSD NVMe, 2TB HDD, 16GB DDR4 RAM ... There also a more expensive version of this laptop, at 2700€ (always to the same french seller) ; IPS UHD display, GTX1070, 512GB SSD NVMe, 2TB HDD, 16GB DDR4 RAM.

    @ Ultimateh : the MSI GS73VR 7RG at Materiel don't seem at all to a MSI GS73VR 7RF, I don't see at all why you say that because of the reference which is well 7RG and not 7RF (we have the 7RF, and it's already available here for example), and because they marked well GTX1070 for the GPU, not GTX1060.

    And no, the display doesn't compatible with G-Sync (MSI FB), much to my regret, what would have been perfect is a IPS FHD 120Hz 5ms G-Sync display, but TN FHD 120Hz display it's already good.
     
  11. Ultimateh

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    In the listing I found, if you scrolled through the features section it looked like they just copy pasted the promo material from a GS73 with a 1060. To me that looked like they might have just decided to take everything from the 1060 model and just guess the specs on the 1070 model to start getting hits and maybe pre orders in anticipation of the actual model release.

    Regardless, I'm glad to see some confirmation and REALLY want the 1070 model with a 1080p panel! Hopefully they make it available in North America!
     
  12. Domingo Gomez

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    That's great news to hear! I really think they missed out on the American market on this one. I hope they bring a gs73vr 7rg with 120hz 1080p panel and gtx 1070 to the north american market soon. It's gaming laptop, faster refresh rates are priority for competitive gaming. 4k mostly appeals to content creators, while I am one as well, I'd still opt for an external monitor for serious work. But for games it's hard not having 120hz
     
  13. Bluestang

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    What seller confirmed mid-April? I e-mailed GenTechPC and responded that they are expecting their first shipment mid-March...
     
  14. CedricFP

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    Well the original supposed date of availability third week of February, then it was March, so honestly it wouldn't surprise me if there was another delay.

    At this point I'm content to wait, but I do hope these notebooks reach market before May so that there can be enough time for reviews to filter out on thermals and the performance of the "1070" before summer which is my deadline.
     
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    lets put 1080ti in it
     
  16. norgei

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    Lol this joke :biglaugh:, I hope that it was a troll o_O because already MSI has difficulties in leaving us the MSI GS73VR with the GTX1070, then with a GTX 1080Ti, and then already it would be necessary that it left us it MSI GS73VR with a GTX 1080 ... :vbrolleyes:

    I really hope that this new price scale of the GTX 10xx will reduce the price of this MSI GS73VR 7RG (and the others models of course) :wideeyed:.

    Sorry for the bad news but the french seller Materiel pushed back once again the date of availability to the 7 April :mad2:.
     
  17. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    There is a delay because MSI is waiting for nVidia to confirm a special edition of 1070.
     
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  18. norgei

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    What do you mean by "special edition"? (I'm a little anxious of the answer :vbconfused:)

    In France, the version of the MSI GS73VR with the GTX 1070 is already announced, so why we have to wait a special edition of the GTX 1070 in this laptop :vbconfused:? Others laptops have this GPU (no special edition) since one moment, so why a special edition in this MSI GS73VR 7RG :vbconfused:?
     
  19. ThePerfectStorm

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    There is a TDP crippled 1070 (limited to 90W) that we figured out will be appearing in the GS73VR and GS63VR since me and many other people had reservations about the ability of the cooling systems of the aforementioned laptops to handle a full-fat 1070. If you go to the NotebookCheck page for the 1070 they have a note mentioning this.

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  20. achad

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    Possible 'IPS level' screen, gimped 1070 and delay after delay firmly crosses this off my shopping list... Shame :-(
     
  21. bwolmarans

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    but if it has g-sync screen then I like it
     
  22. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    They could at least rename it. That's going to be confusing when comparing systems.
     
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    Yeah, it will be. But I guess it will be like some other nVidia cards - a full-fat version and a gimped version masquerading under the same name.

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  24. mcneill.tech

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    Would it be possible that the upgrade to a GTX 1070 is incorrect and instead will be a GTX 1060 TI? That would make more sense..

    Just my speculation.
     
  25. gbenedetto

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    For marketing purposes I think will be plainly a gtx1070...

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    Could anyone verify if the new 120hz panels will have gsync on the gs73?


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    https://kr.msi.com/Laptop/GS73VR-7RG-Stealth-Pro.html#hero-overview

    This is the only site that I can find the GS73VR 7RG listed on and it looks like it will have the same 120Hz/5ms panel as the other versions have. No GSync listed either...

    No GSync and lower TDP 1070 just doesn't sound appealing to me at this point despite the slim form factor.
     
  28. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    Usually those are listed by VRAM like GTX XXX (YGB) and GTX XXX (ZGB), I was hoping they would just label it with an "M" and call it a day.
     
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    The silly thing is that we don't know whether they will give any differentiating factors in the naming. I hope you are correct, though.

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  30. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    I sort of doubt that since it might cause even more confusion (would be the wrong name for the actual chip even if the TDP is reflected in the model name), but at this point there's really nothing they could do that wouldn't be at least a little confusing.
     
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  31. ranjim

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    Does anyone know why the same Chi Mei panels on thr GT7x series support gsync while the ones in the GS73/GE73 doesn't?


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  32. gbenedetto

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    I am meeting with representatives of MSI for latinoamerica on wednedsay for a business reason but I will Try to ask them about all this rumors... I will keep this thread posted.

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    Could be the system not the panel, the GTs have a hybrid/discrete GPU switch and the GEs don't.
     
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  35. Naehmann

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    tired o waiting
    I got myself XPS 15 the new kaby lake model
    since i got it for free i plan on using the money i wanted to spend on the MSI gaming laptop on building a gaming pc with the new 1080ti
     
  36. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    Not a bad plan, I like having a desktop as my main and then just something light for on the road, since I realized I do about 0% of my gaming outside of my house.
     
  37. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    1080 Ti is too sexy. :)
     
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  38. gbenedetto

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    I just finished my meeting... Looks like will be full 1070... If not they would have needed to change the name... Not sure how trustful can be since they were sales people from MSI.. Not product managers.

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    Hopefully it's accurate, though not sure how well it will cool in that chassis.
     
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    Exactly, I'm worried we'll get a machine that throttles badly and overheats or a machine with a severely gimped 1070. If they have magic that makes it work out, then fantastic. If they don't, it could end up a hot and noisy mess. @hmscott @CedricFP @tobi777
    Thanks for the info man!

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    Interesting reading in this thread. I'm confused on the potential issues putting a GTX 1070 in a 17" chassis, I have a slim 15" aorus with a full fat GTX 1070, no throttling. I see no reason why MSI cannot achieve the same.


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    It might not be a message of whether they can do it, but if they can do it right. There could always be issues in pre-production they need to work out before they want to start shipping out a product.
     
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    The GS63 is much thinner than the Aorus.

    "GTX 1080 in a thinbook is fine" -Razer
     
  44. gbenedetto

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    Adding in that... razor put a gtx1080 in a similar thin chassis... Although at 3K....

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    Don't even start on f**king Razer and their crap. The 1070 GS63VR is meant to be a niche ultraportable - Razer's products are designed horrendously, and are really overpriced and p*ss poor. I know people who have stupidly bought Razer products and then regretted not listening to my advice.

    Not trying to offend you, just giving my opinion on Razer.

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  46. smartuy

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    Lmao my signature is supposed to be ripping on Razer. I hate them as much as you do.

    "GTX 1080 in a thinbook is fine" -Razer
     
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    Good to know that we are on the same team

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    New GS series is super thin and MSI just want to be 100% sure there won't be problems. MSI did it right on all of their 10X series GPU laptops and I am sure they want the GS series with 1070 to be the same quality and no issues for the long run.
     
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    I'm okay with a noisy computer when I'm using it! As long as it's not loud when it's not needing to be then I'm fine.
     
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    No news for shipping? or other info?
     
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