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    Official MSI GE60 & GE70 2012 Owners' Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by asurania, May 9, 2012.

  1. jpsm

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    today i woke up and the fan sounded funny. so i opened my laptop up and tried cleaning the fan but the sound did not stop. until now as i am typing this message there is a buzzing sound coming from the fan. Anyone experienced this problem? would help if i can get your input TIA. :(
     
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  2. James D

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    Yeah. Now you have 2 ways: buy new fan or try to restore original one. If you pick the second way then you should stop using laptop immediately. Each second of that buzzing sound kills your fan in geometry progression.

    What you need to do to fix your fan:
    1. Take it out (obviously);
    2. Drill a 2 mm hole on the other side right in the enter under the sticker (complicated);
    3. Put 1 drop of sewing machine's oil (this kind of oil is the best one);
    4. Put sticker back on.
    You can see pictures here https://forum-ru.msi.com/index.php?topic=77029.msg225743#msg225743

    Or just buy a new fan. It will cost you ~60$. You can search ebay for better deal (I bought combo fan+heatsink) or ask majsterMSI here.
     
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    That almost sounds like the fins hitting the casing of the fan.
     
  4. jpsm

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    ok, so i switched my laptop off for about 2 hours and now the sound is gone. I guess its safe to say it can comeback at anytime. Thanks for the link but I cant read it rofl. i think its russian but i guess thats what google translate is for.
    A link on where i can buy the fan would be nice :D.
    luckily my uncle from the us is sending me something 2 weeks from now so i can pick it up over the internet and have it here by the end of the month. hope the sound wont come back until then! nights wouldnt be complete without a game or two of dota2 :D
     
  5. jpsm

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    well i opened the laptop up and thought it was just dirt(yes there was a big ball of dust/hairy thing there) and managed to remove it. But the sound was still there. I tried running the laptop with the fan unscrewed to the laptop and it was normal but upon screwing it up to the machine the sound came back. i guess its hitting something but i dont know what. I guess i am not that worried anymore now that the sound is gone. I am just hoping that this laptop wont give me problems until january 2015(the day i start my internship in the US and i will surely be picking up an m17x if the pay is decent) :D
     
  6. James D

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    So I have a GE60 from 2013, with just the blue backlit keyboard and about a week ago I was shocked to see that the control key suddenly fell of for no apparent reason. I have tried to stick it back on but it won't stay. There are very small little plastic clasps on each key and the ones on the control key broke, so there is no way to keep it on. I don't want to send it in because I need the laptop and MSI said it would take roughly 25 business days to get it back which is way too long. I'm willing to buy a new keyboard, but I'm not sure how to put it on safely. If anybody knows how, the information would be much appreciated.
     
  10. James D

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    F--k! I have just got the same problem with the fan for the 2-nd time! And this time it died less than in 9 months! What A F MSI??? Really, What A F!!!!
     
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    There should be youtube videos, if not then I can look it up later.
     
  12. jpsm

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    ROFL. I just got mine replaced a week ago and all is well. I had mine done in an msi service center and I paid around 2500php(around 57-60$). but before realizing that there was a service center here, I ordered a fan from ebay so i have an extra fan incase this happens again.
     
  13. James D

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    I managed to fix mine. I drill a little hole, then found that smth is there which is harder to drill. That was some kind of metalized magnet which is GREAT because it stops your drill from drilling the important part of the fan which could break it (that's the fan from 2013-th year GE series, have no idea if it exists in our fan model). So I made that hole wider (before doing this I tried to put a drop of oil but it didn't pass through), took magnet away, used SYRINGE to put oil inside, then put back magnet (it is 1.5mm diameter and 0.3mm thick rounded shape), put that black sticker back and after 2 days (first day it was working VERY loud, looks like new oil destroyed older oil of ball-bearing) and now all is great. And it looks brand new anyway :)
     
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    I found that our touchpad Elan actually CAN use circle scrolling feature, Continuous scrolling feature and a dozen or 2 of other features! You need to mod the inf file and set 1 instead of 0 to enable some features.

    SmartPadETD0300 UI Display Section
    (or ...same... (Win8)) means what sections you can see in Control Panel. For example on Windows 8 system peoplewhobelievetheyknowbetterthanus hied whole Edge Scrolling section! To reenable it set "EdgeScroll_Display,%REG_DWORD%,1" instead of 0

    And SmartPadETD0300 UI Default Section holds all settings like what options to show in those sections and what options must be enabled/disabled.
    Examples:
    ; EdgeScroll
    HKLM,%ServiceRoot%"\Elantech\SmartPad",EGS_ContinueScroll_ShowItem,%REG_DWORD%,1
    HKLM,%ServiceRoot%"\Elantech\SmartPad",EGS_ContinueScroll_Enable,%REG_DWORD%,1
    ; Circular Scroll
    HKLM,%ServiceRoot%"\Elantech\SmartPad",CircularScroll_ShowItem,%REG_DWORD%,1
    HKLM,%ServiceRoot%"\Elantech\SmartPad",CircularScroll_Enable,%REG_DWORD%,1

    P.S. On Windows 8 and above after you modded inf file by Notepad you need to enter Boot options once (F8 while booting) and set "Disable driver signature verification" or smth like tat.
     
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    Hello, I'm having problems with my GE60 battery. A while ago windows 7 started popping a notification that my battery may be faulty and needs to be replaced. Eventually my laptop wouldn't turn on when charging after a full drain so I went ahead and bought a replacement on amazon. The problem is that now the laptop won't charge, Instead of the blue battery LED I get a blinking red/orange LED and every time I try to turn on the laptop it shuts down inmediately. I have to remove the battery to be able to use the laptop at all (plugged to the wall but without a battery).

    On the rare occasion I was able to turn on the laptop with the battery attached windows displayed the status as plugged in, not charging.

    Can somebody help me with this?
     
  16. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Bad or incompatible battery.
    Return for refund and order the right one from MSI directly at 626.271.1004 x216 for Tom.
     
  17. Broom

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    Hey there, I'll post this here too, because it's easier, safer, and cleaner than drilling, and cheaper than buying a whole new fan.

    I decided to make an account to give someone a heads up if their fan starts doing that crazy buzzing sound, because I just fixed mine without drilling a hole through the middle or taking the fan apart (if that's possible).

    Anyway, yesterday the fan evolved from the slight purr it started to have, to the sudden and scary loud buzzing. I had fixed this problem before on other laptop fans, but they were easily disassembled and oil could be applied directly on the shaft no problem.

    Not the case with the Ge70. I separated the halves by bending the metal "fingers" with pliers, but couldn't get the shaft out of the bearing, and didn't have a drill on hand as the Russians suggested so I looked up other solutions, such as oil seeping, which is only possible if the cap isn't glued on. Well this is what worked for me.

    I removed the stickers, and cleaned out the groove of all the adhesive around the black cap at the center of the fan with a needle, and applied a drop of sewing machine oil at the center, making sure the oil had contact with the groove. Came back 10 minutes later and applied another drop, making sure the oil that wasn't on the black dot or groove got cleaned up with a tissue.
    I came back 20 minutes later and the oil was not to be seen, so this is what must have happened, the oil seeped through the groove and into the bearing/shaft center.
    Spun the fan around manually to get the oil mixed up, put the other half of the case back on, plugged it in, ran the turbo mode, and no buzzing occurred even after shaking around the fan (which usually started the loud buzzing).

    TL;DR Don't drill, just apply the finest oil you can find on the black cap at the center (after removing the stickers) after cleaning the groove, and wait until it's gone. Repeat a couple times and your fan should be back to normal. Mine doesn't purr anymore, and no more buzzing even if I suddenly tilt or swing my laptop. Good as new.

    Hope this saves you some cash and time.
     
  18. James D

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    Broom, could you add more pictures with arrows? Perhaps due to language barrier I can't get how that oil fitted there where I think you told should work.
     
  19. Broom

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    Yeah sorry about that James but I can't take pictures.

    I want to say that this isn't a permanent solution, since I posted, I've gotten the buzz once again, but only once. This is probably because the fan is damaged because of how many times I heard the buzzing before that (I wasn't very careful, my fault really). I've ordered a new fan, but this one will hold out until then.

    So, James. Take your fan, place it sticker side up, remove sticker, find center of the fan (It looks like a button/cap/circle made of different material than the rest of the casing. Clean the gap (groove or crevice) between the case and this button/cap/circle. Place oil on the center dot and make the oil touch the gap (groove or crevice) and wait until it's gone. The first drop went pretty quick, the second took a while, and the third one barely went in.

    If you need pics, just look at the russian ones that are available, but instead of drilling, just put oil on it instead. It has to be the finest (thinnest) oil you can find, because it has to seep (leak, drip, run) through the gap and into the bearing/shaft area.

    I wish you the best of luck.
     
  20. James D

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    Thank you Broom. I can't do this with mine because I have already drilled a hole in that cap under the sticker :)

    By the way, Try to get syringe with oil an d put some between plastic fan and base metal right on those metal rails hied under plastic fan. That may help. My fan was buzzing after I oiled but in couple days that sound dissapeared. Looks lie oil was deleting older oil at first and then newer oil fitted everything.
     
  21. Snoffel

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    Anyone know what kind of screw it is for the mSATA3 slot in a GE70 2pc apache?
    would be very helpful if anyone knows :)
     
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    Is it not a Philips? I can't recall. If you can take a picture and either upload and link us, or attach it here, we can tell you (unless somebody knows off the top of their head). :)
     
  23. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    It's Philips, but it's also small, and possibly used by typical 2.5" NB HDD application.
     
  24. Sgbdk

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    I need some help here.. im using GE60OND and was disappointed that the wireless card does not support 5Ghz wireless..

    Anyone know if i can upgrade the wireless card and which model to go for
     
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    You could swap out the card and upgrade to a better one.
    The form factor is mini PCIe half height.
     
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    I have a MSI GE60. Just recently, the fan has started making a vibrating/humming sound. I took off the bottom shell and used some compressed air and cleaned up the interior good. The sound still remains. Is this a common problem with this computer?

    I am hoping not to need a new computer, since it is only less than 3 years old. I am hoping some of you could help me troubleshoot this problem more.
     
  27. James D

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    Is it a rattle sound? can you record it?
     
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    It was a quiet rattle-like sound. I hit the fan button to see if it stopped or made it worse. It got very LOUD at that point. That went on for about 15 minutes and then it just ceased. It is back to normal now. I almost feel like a wire or cord or something was rattling and when it got LOUD it rattled itself free? I really don't know.

    I am scared to move it now, lol. Or hit the fan button again. I can;t get a sound recording now because it is gone. I am still sure something is off.
     
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    Hello,
    I recently bought an msi ge60 2pf apache pro .... I have password protected my bios (legacy) for security reasons but i want to know, is there a limit on the number of password attempts someone can try to unlock the bios ? Like will the system/bios lockdown if there are too many attempts?
    Also, my laptop ships with 2mSATA ports and an HDD port. I already have 1 128gb SSD and 1 TB HDD inside. I want to add a second 256gb SSD. Will this affect the performance of the machine?
     
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    Dear forum
    whats if I use a full coured keybord from gt70 an put it in ge70
    wiil it work as keyboard but no backlit
     
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    Just about all BIOS utilities have a specific amount of attempts allowed before they lock you out. It varies by each BIOS. As for your SSD question: how do you intend to use the drives?

    I don't know of any precedent to say yay or nay to that, but I believe the GT70 keyboard uses different firmware than the GE 70 keyboard. If the GT keyboard works, it may yield problems.
     
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    Hej
    I chanced the keyboard it works but with white backlit
    and not blue.can be dimmed and in 2 sektions
     
  33. James D

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    You are talking about 2013-2015 models, this lounge is for 2012 GE series and keyboard looks like this.
    [​IMG]
     
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    So I'm not sure if anyone has had this issue but my laptop's fan keeps ramping up in speed and then going down every few seconds and I've realized the solution that many people have found is to update the EC controller for the laptop.

    The problem is the firmware for the EC controller supports windows 8.1 and I'm already on windows 10 so I was wondering if anyone has an idea of how I can update the EC controller firmware with the updated fan table ?

    Thanks in advance
     
  35. James D

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    Just power drain your laptop once. If you update firmware then your laptop's fan will never turn off.
     
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    What's your current BIOS & ME version? Have you updated them to the latest release?
    Also, perform EC reset afterwards by taking the battery out, and disconnect the AC adapter.
     
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    http://i.imgur.com/viOnkiz.jpg

    Yea I looked at people's solutions to the fan ramping up for no reason and a lot of them just updated the EC firmware, but I'm on Windows 10 now so I'm not sure if I can update the EC to the latest release
     
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    Windows 10 wont impact your ability to update firmware.
     
  39. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Don't worry about that, you can still update BIOS and EC without any issues.
     
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    The speed/voltage adjustments were made to the firmware so it's the better fix without having to run this tool manually.
     
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    Hi. I tried to force an upgrade to Windows 10 on my 0NC. It worked, but no audio. Reverted back to 8.1. Has anyone had total success with W10 on the 0NC?
     
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    I did both upgrades and clean installs. Only 2 problems are:
    1. Win10 tries to install obsolete Card-Reader driver. Need to install manually latest one.
    2. It's windows 10. It's one HUGE problem.
     
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    Audio controller is Realtek, download the latest version which should help.
     
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    I want to buy an SSD for this laptop. I read this thread and gathered some info, but I'd like someone to confirm that my plan will work:
    -buy a Samsung 850 PRO 256GB SSD
    -buy a 2.5 -> 3.5 HDD adapter
    -remove the DVD drive and instead insert the existing HDD inside the adapter (the HDD is SATA 2 so there shouldn't be any performance loss)
    -put the new SSD into the SATA 3 spot, where HDD was
     
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    Nope. Your adapter needs to be Sata to ODD caddy
     
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    With the 12.7mm optical bay to sata covered the plan works.
     
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    3.5" form factor is typically for desktops. Like James D said, what you need is a "caddy" for the ODD bay.
     
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    You don't need 2.5 <-> 3.5" adapter, the HDD itself is 2.5" so you will only need ODD-to-HDD caddy. Then the whole plan will work perfectly.
     
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