Official MSI GE60 2013 Owners Lounge

Try using the SCM utility from here: MSI Global GE60 2OE

 

Hello, guys. I'm owning a GE60 2OC, is the touch pad felt wobbly? It's like we can click everywhere in it. Anyone experiences such issue? The build quality of GE60 isn't that great for its price.

 

Hi guys, i am planning to get a GE60 2OE and have some questions:
1. I am planning to install Windows 7. Does the drivers & BIOS fully supported and the machine is working without an issue?
2. Does it support DDR3 ram? I have Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 and want to install it.
3. I also plan to repaste the CPU (as the factory pasting is reported to be horrible). Does it void the warranty?

Thanks!

 

1Yes
2Yes
3Probably not

 

Has anybody installed windows 8.1? I've ran into issues after formatting and fresh installing 8.1; it kicks me out of videogames saying there's no more memory avaiable even though the task manager keeps saying there's almost 5Gb free and it wasnt full during the videogame use. Any idea?

 

On my ge60 i have test the package "Intel HD Graphics drivers version 15.33.2.3282 WHQL" with Graphic drivers 10.18.10.3282 and now the windows index Aero score is 7,4 , before it was 5,0 (i use geforce nvidia 327.23)

I have installed new ram kingston KHX16LS9P1K2/16 16go c9 ddr3l and it work very well the memory windows score is now 7,8 (before i have only 4gb c11 with a score of 5,9)

 

Hi everybody

I want to buy new notebook MSI GE60 20C (i5-4200, GT 750M, etc.) , but I wont know, how (conjecture) can be temperature ? Is it comparable to GE70 (i7-4200, GTX 765) ? I am very concerned about also system noise, because If this laptop will system noise 45/47 dB, so this is not good.

 

Anyone know what the differences are between GE60 W8 and W7 BIOS plus RAID AHCI versions?

Thanks

 

Install windows 8 bios only if your computer was ordered with Windows 8 inside (for keep the license in the bios, i think), and windows 7 if your ordered a computer with windows 7 or without OS!
Choose RAID version only if your system setup was in raid to avoid boot problems after flashing!

I'm not sure at 100% but i think it's exact!

Ps: sorry for my english

 

Your English is fine sebcle38. It came with FreeDOS and W8 AHCI BIOS, 510. I have W8 OEM disc which is much the same as retail except no support from MS and W7 retail so might go dual boot and see what works better for me.

I was hoping someone would know why there is a difference without having to dig too much into it as I don't have much spare time at present.

The AHCI BIOS has RAID option too, maybe the BIOS UEFI RAID driver menu is missing in the AHCI, idk and LakeTiny is disabled by default but that should be an easy fix.

A few things to sort out, add some msata, the HD is much too slow for my liking.

Probably will go with 16GB of RAM, 8GB would have been enough but it came with a single SO-DIMM so no dual channel.

CPU runs too hot for my liking but seems XTU can drop the voltage a fair bit so maybe can do something there.

I see the 4700MQ comes with a couple of extra bins so should be able to run all cores at 3.4GHz and one core at 3.6GHz.

 

My MSI GE60 2OE-072XFR was with freedos too, but i put a ssd inside and never tried it. I have Now Windows 7 but to install it i had to put " Boot Mode Select " in LEGACY, and had to put "Bios Secure" off, without it windows 7 installation do not work for me :s! But for Windows 8 it is probably different! I don't know if my bios was W8 or W7 one (but i think it is W7 ?).

On my older Medion computer i have tried many flash and if i install Raid bios version on windows AHCI installation, it do not boot up!
These bios (Raid or Ahci) are just for flash with the actual specified system settings to avoid boot problems i think. (but i think the 2 bios have raid and ahci settings in the bios)

For the RAM i have in the beggining only one 4GB kingston RB16D3LS1KBG/4G (With no dual channel) and i put after 2*8Gb of kingston: KHX16LS9P1K2/16, i buy it on amazon for 132€! You have to chose a ram with 1.35v possibility for "better perfomances" (the Crucial one or these kingston are good!)

 

I take it you have a French model, I also have the 2OE but different country.

For the BIOS versions

W8 AHCI 510
W8 RAID 710
W7 AHCI 110
W7 RAID 310

Maybe the first digit is for the platform and the last 2 digits version.

The SO-DIMM I have is also DDR3L so maybe the notebook is tied to 1.35V idk, but hard to find this SO-DIMM locally, I'll have to order probably.

RAID boot seems to work okay with the AHCI BIOS, but I guess I'll have to look at the RAID BIOS to see if there's much difference.

Something else I notice is that the package C-Ctates seem lacking, package idles at ~8W so will need to look at that too.

Forgot to add, Secure boot does not work with W7 but since it's not that secure under X86 I wouldn't worry about enabling it anyway. For full UEFI boot under W7 that may be possible.

 

As you put the first digit shows what "OS" (bios system type) and what mode the HDD controller will be in by default.

 

Hello do you know if exist a video showing the disassembly of this notebook? I have already downloaded the pdf guide but I have some problem with the steelseries keyboard and I would like to watch a video because I fear to break it

 

W7 works with full UEFI, no CSM on this notebook but some prerequisites needed.

• Install with CSM
• Update Video drivers to latest.
• Update RST driver to 11.5 or higher, most will use 12.x but beware that 12.5 has broken trim for SSD in RAID0. 11.2 and below will not work with the BIOS UEFI RAID driver.
• Set BCD "novesa" option as there will not be any interrupts for this in full UEFI.
• Use W8 boot manager in the EFI system partition.
• Switch to full UEFI boot, no CSM

The AHCI BIOS seems to do everything except displaying the RAID setup form. If someone can confirm the RAID BIOS has this then I may change over. The BIOS has a lot of hidden settings such as the "LakeTiny" option needed for DSA and is defaulted to disabled but these are easy enough to enable and set right.

Linpack results seem a little lower than I would expect so will have to look at that once I get dual channel working.


Some SuperPi at near 3.6GHz on the I7-4700MQ


Still a few things to look at when I have the time but at least it's going in the right direction.

 

Hello, guys. How is the quality of msi ge60 to your guys? Especially the hinge area and the touchpad. Anyone can describe more in the quality of it. Thanks.

 

Hey guys,

I am gonna do firmware and bios update (because of the start stop problem of fan every 2 secs). I thought these are the same but after I saw download link for firmware and bios seperately ( MSI Global GE60 2OE), I begin to think that they are not the same. Anyone can explain the difference? And can anyone tell briefly how to do firmware and bios update with flash disk?

 

Owners GE60 or GE70 with GT750M, somebody do with GPU-Z dump of your videobios and put out here please. To do this, you just need to click on the small icon chip in the window of GPU-Z.

 

It says 'Bios reading not supported on this device'

I have finally removed the steelseries keyboard. According to the disassembly guide you have to remove the upper cover that is sticked through a strong bi-adhesive tape.

 

Ok, can you try use nvflash for make dump backup of videobios.

 

I get a similar error. Looking on internet I have found that the backup of the second card is not possible, it could be done only for the intel card.

 

Ok. Can you try GPU-Z v0.7.3?

 

My previous test was done exactly with that version of the software.

 

Ok. I found where the videobios. It is in the main system BIOS of laptop.

 

Hi all, just installed Windows 7, does Sound Blaster Cinema work on Win 7? The driver only supports Windows8. Anyway to work around? Thanks!

 

Now running dual channel memory it seems some throttling is going on with Linpack. Although this is an unrealistic load for real world performance it still bugs me so I will look into it. It should be running 3.4GHz and GFLOPS should be around 160 for that speed by my reckoning but it can clearly be seen dropping down to ~3.0GHz and ~145GFLOPS.

4700MQ running Linpack AVX2 with HT disabled.

 

It is no trottling. All normal. i7 4700MQ: 3.2GHz for 4 core, 3.3GHz for 2 core and 3.4GHz for 1 core.
This processor will start trottling only after 90-95C.

 

You can see it's throttling in the picture and BTW i7 4700MQ supports and additional 2 turbo bins so mine is configured to run 4 cores at 3.4GHz and 1 core at 3.6GHz.

SuperPi 1 thread at 3.6GHz


FYI there are more reasons for throttling than just temperature.




CPUz validation link http://valid.canardpc.com/wpidy0

 

"FYI there are more reasons for throttling than just temperature."

You are wrong. Throttling is a technology to protect the CPU from overheating. And it is start only when the processor temperature is strictly more than defined T max. You have no throttling.
In your case i can advise you try to use the power supply with more power.

 

Hi . I am New to this forum (and to MSI GE60 2OE). Can you please explain me step by step, how to install windows 7 on this windows 8 machine? (Please help)
I have tried many things, without success :-(

 

Hi Kina,
the first thing you'll need to do is disable "Secure Boot" in the BIOS then decide if you want to install to MBR or UEFI and GPT.

For MBR you'll want BIOS legacy support.

For GPT you want UEFI with CSM to install. Once installed it is possible to go full UEFI boot for W7 as outlined in a few posts back >here< if you want to.

 

Hi Dufus.
Thank you very much for helping me
I actually tried to disable the "secure boot" in the bios, and had CD/DVD to be first boot device.
I had a windows 7 install dvd in the drive, but the computer boots up with harddisk anyway :-(
I then tried to disable harddisk in the boot menu, and it then started the boot process from the DVD, but then stops at the win7 logo.
After setting all bios settings to default, it could start normally again.

Do you think I have to set the bios to MBR instead of UEFI?
I don't know what GPT and CSM is referring to?
Can you describe it very detailed in steps? I am not good at this bios stuff ;-) All my previous computers had old fashion bios.

 

You will have to decide whether you want GPT or MBR, GPT (a different partitioning scheme) offers some advantages such as interaction with the BIOS, possibility of pre loading drivers before booting, booting 2TB+ disks and usually a little bit quicker booting while MBR is simpler and currently more compatible IMO.

I'm not sure what BIOS settings you have but basically select UEFI with CSM for GPT or Legacy for MBR under BIOS boot options. CSM provides legacy option ROM's and BIOS calls needed for installing W7 with UEFI.

When you boot the DVD usually you have just a few seconds to press a key otherwise it hands over to booting the hard disk but maybe you do not see the text prompt. If it appears to be stopping at the logo it may be you have full UEFI selected, no CSM. W7 native video drivers on the installation disc do not work well with GOP (UEFI graphics driver) so you need CSM enabled to see what you are doing.

 

Thank you.
I will try again.
My last question: Can I run windows 7 on the MSI GE60 2OC with windows 8 bios?

 

Don't see why not. I have the 2OE with W8 AHCI and have W7 and W8 dual boot in RAID.

 

Has anyone downloaded the new bios for windows 8.1? Im trying but the link is dead. I was looking forward to it because i've been having some problems with the memory managemet and i think its bios-related.

 

Can you check in the BIOS to find out the version of BIOS and EC you have?
Once you provide them here then we can help you with the right updates.

 

Hi, i just got GE60 2OE. I have question regarding the touchpad (Elantech). have been using Edge Scrolling since my past laptop. However, the GE60 touchpad does not seem to support it (only support 2-finger scrolling which I don't used to + don't like). Anyway to work around this? I am currently using factory driver.

After some Google-ing, Elantech does have Edge Scrolling in Menu but my GE60 does not have ):

Thanks!

 

The touchpad functions are controlled by Elantech software therefore it depends on what features MSI had purchased from Elantech.
Latest driver on msi's website is 11.13.4.4.
Touchpad driver download.

 

I have a msata ssd as a boot drive, I already copy the recovery partition from the original hdd to the ssd, when I use the usb flash (msi recovery image) to restore my laptop to stock settings, why it installs the windows on my hdd instead of the ssd which I wanted?

 

Try disconnecting the HDD, leaving just the SSD alone in the system.
Use the USB flash drive to restore the OS, see if that would work.
After restore, reconnect the HDD.

 

Isn't this becoming a hassle if I want to restore the OS? No alternative you could think of?

 

Hmmm, I can't think of anything else that you can do right now...
But my mind is set on this --- the recovery may actually perform scripted decisions and actions therefore it can be dull when you altered things from their original state.

 

alextheguy, maybe you could just disable the SATA port the HDD is on in the BIOS rather than having to open up the notebook.

 

You probably can look into that, however sometimes the operating system still can detect all of the drives.

 

If the BIOS has disabled the port by setting the function disable register then it would be very naughty for Windows to re-enable it, I've never seen Windows do that. If it's just being disabled under the boot options then yes, Windows will still see the drive.

 

Can any one explain briefly how to do firmware update? I got the latest firmware from here: MSI Global GE60 2OE.

And what is the difference between firmware and bios update hmm?

 

How to disable it under the BIOS?

 

For the firmware, make sure your laptop is plugged into power, then just double click the executable in the file you downloaded. When the box pops up, click flash, then you'll need to reboot.

For the BIOS, download the file and extract it. Copy it to a thumbdrive. Reboot and press delete to get into the BIOS. Once inside, there is an option under one of the tabs to do a BIOS update. Select it and hit enter. You should be able to select your thumbdrive and find the ROM file on it. After that it'll reboot into the BIOS and there should be option to proceed with the flash. Hit enter and it'll flash the BIOS, reboot, and you're done! Pretty straightforward process, some of the details might not be exact as I'm going off memory.