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    Official MSI GX640 Owner's Thread

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by min2209, Apr 6, 2010.

  1. jonathan300

    jonathan300 Notebook Consultant

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    ha really cool! how would i use a 30gb ssd though?
     
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    A small 30Gb drive is only useful as an OS drive. You will need another larger drive for storage.
     
  3. jonathan300

    jonathan300 Notebook Consultant

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    Are there 2 drive bays? or would i just use the power over eSATA port. Because im getting a power over eSATA hard drive enclosure for christmas along with a 500 Gb 7200rpm SATAII 16mb cache hard drive for extra storage :D
     
  4. NotEnoughMinerals

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    There aren't two dedicated drive bays but you can pull out the optical bay and get an optical bay hard drive to get a second drive in ur machine
     
  5. Bearclaw

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    you're sure eSATAp can handle a 7200RPM drive?
     
  6. Septimus_DSX

    Septimus_DSX Notebook Consultant

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    As NME said, I pulled out the Optical drive and replaced it with an Optical Bay Caddy from Newmodeus.com. A Caddy is an enclosure that fits in an optical drive bay but holds a laptop hard drive. The Optical drive is a SATA device and replacing it is trivial. I love how easy it is to pop things in and out when needed. To be honest, I have not missed the Optical drive one bit. :)
     
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    An external optical bay is infinitely less cumbersome than lugging around an external hard drive
     
  8. jonathan300

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    it should or else they wouldn't make the enclosure for it. i guess i'll find out lol
     
  9. jonathan300

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    Hmm cool. i might try that some time :)
     
  10. jonathan300

    jonathan300 Notebook Consultant

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    I found a cool article about eSATAp. Check it out, there are some good facts about it. eSATAp Guide on Windows
     
  11. Bearclaw

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    That doesn't say if eSATAp can handle a 2.5in 7200RPM drive.

    I'll ask in the esatap enclosures thread.
     
  12. jonathan300

    jonathan300 Notebook Consultant

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    It says it can handle a 3.5" 7200rpm drive so it should handle a 2.5" but u can't trust just one article
     
  13. Bearclaw

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    That's with a desktop eSATAp port, not laptop.
     
  14. jonathan300

    jonathan300 Notebook Consultant

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    oh i figured it would be the same. Every eSATAp port should supply the same amount of power
     
  15. jonathan300

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    Let me know what u find
     
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    jonathan300 Notebook Consultant

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    does anyone know why i cant overclock my cpu as high when i added a 4gb ram stick in place of a 2gb ram stick in my laptop. before adding the extra ram i could overclock my cpu to 3.3ghz and now i can only overclock it to 2.8ghz
     
  18. Septimus_DSX

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    You may have to tweak your RAM settings with Memset--> http://www.tweakers.fr/download/MemSet.exe

    Also, maybe your 4Gb stick is just not as good at tighter timings. Loosen CAS to 8 and see what happens. You are simply increasing BCLK when you OC and that pushes everything higher.
     
  19. jonathan300

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    Thanks i will try that out
     
  20. jonathan300

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    Memset doesn't work with this laptop. When i open it, it says "NOT FOR THIS SYSTEM!"
     
  21. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    Try CPU-Tweaker instead, it's from the same guys. Works with my i7 in my GX740.

    Memset is for systems with memory controller integrated in the chipset, whereas CPU-Tweaker is for systems with the memory controller integrated in the CPU.

    Tweakers.fr
     
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    Sheesh...my fault. I am still stuck in the LGA775 mentality. :(
     
  23. heteringet

    heteringet Newbie

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    What is the easiest way for a normal pc-user to update the VBIOS? Burn the file to a cd and press F11 while computer is booting?

    - Having problem with a black screen after going sleep mode. :mad:
     
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    Hi and welcome to the forums. :)

    You need to make a bootable CD/USB to update the VBIOS. Make a Bootable USB first, then download the latest VBIOS from my signature and run VBIOS.BAT at the DOS prompt.
     
  25. jonathan300

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    hey thanks i will try that
     
  26. jonathan300

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    lol its cool thanks for tryin to help though
     
  27. jonathan300

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    in cpu-tweaker CAS# Latency is greyed out but RAS# to CAS# Delay, RAS# Precharge, and Precharge Delay are not. how do i adjust it?
     
  28. heteringet

    heteringet Newbie

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    Hi!

    Thank you, it worked, or at least I think so. My values were the same as yours when inspecting the VBIOS version :p

    I updated my drivers for my graphicscard but some of the icons still look very cheesy and you can see the pixels very well. :confused:


    Is it necessary to update the BIOS aswell? Is it just as simple as updating the VBIOS? Would a patching remove any major problems that I havent even experienced yet?
     
  29. Septimus_DSX

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    I would recommend updating the System BIOS as well. Just make sure you remove the battery and let the system sit unplugged for about an hour before you reboot. MSI suggest this because it is supposed to reset the embedded controller.

    How to reset the EC (Embedded Controller)

    As for the pixilated icons etc, that should go away after a complete re-installation of the graphics drivers. Download AMD's Installation utility and proceed from there.
    http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx

    I have not tried the latest drivers, I am still on Catalyst 10.11. It works quite well and I don't really see the need to change.
    Good Luck!

    PS# Remember NOT to reboot unless your flash is successful with no errors. Keep trying until it works.
     
  30. heteringet

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    Don't know if I dare to flash it after looking at the "How to reset EC"-link :confused:
     
  31. Septimus_DSX

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    Here is the correct DL page for notebook drivers--> Global Provider of Innovative Graphics, Processors and Media Solutions | AMD

    I was scared too, but it is no big deal. The VBIOS is a bigger deal actually. It seems that a lot of people messed up their flashing and sent the notebooks back to MSI for a fix. Purely user error. If you are uncomfortable, try reinstalling GPU Drivers first. If it fixes your problem, then you do not have to flash the System BIOS.

    Also read this thread---> http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi...clocking-undervolting-using-ccc-profiles.html
     
  32. heteringet

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    I tried to use MSI's "Live update online" to see if there were any out of date drivers. It only found one and it was for my mainboard. But the strange thing is that when I allow it to install the driver my computer tells me that I'm about to install an older version of the driver :confused:
     
  33. Septimus_DSX

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    Don't use that software. Try downloading everything from their website instead. What driver are you stuck on? I would also download the latest chipset drivers from Intel's site. Did reinstalling GPU Drivers help?
     
  34. heteringet

    heteringet Newbie

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    I tried to reinstall the drivers for my graphic card. First I removed the ATI Catalyst Install Manager + ATI Stream SDK from my computer. (Strangely enough my resolution still looked the same after a reboot.) Then I installed the file again. But directly after the installation was finished the message " no ati graphics driver is installed or the ati driver is not functioning properly" poped up. There was no difference to the resolution of the icons.
    - I have tried this 2 times with the same message and result :mad:

    Would you mind sending me a link to the file/files i need to update the chipset? :) or is it this one: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...oduct=Mobile+Intel®+5+Series+Chipset&lang=eng
     
  35. heteringet

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    Aw well, I flashed it now with the latest bios from your link. The two last sentences in the prompt are:

    Result: The data is identical

    FPT Operation passed


    I suppose that that means it went well?
     
  36. heteringet

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    3 posts in a row :eek:

    Well the computer runs fine but I still have a problem with the World of Warcraft icon looking crappy.

    Things I noticed after the BIOS/VBIOS-update


    + The computer can come back from sleep mode
    + The computer seems to be cooler and not as noizy :confused:

    - Didnt solve my icon-problem
    - The option "Press F3 for recovery" while booting is gone.

    The BIOS/VBIOS won't reset if/when I run my recoverydisks, right?
     
  37. NotEnoughMinerals

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    I remember asking this way back when but I forget, looking at optimizing my bottom panel, any clue why the shiny plastic piece is there directly covering the vent by the GPU? Thinking about trying to pull it off but I don't know why it's there.
     
  38. Septimus_DSX

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    Did you remove the battery brick (which resets the Embedded Controller)?

    I would suggest purging all ATI drivers, doing a Windows update and then trying. If it still gives you problems, try Catalyst 10.8.

    Good to hear that the CMOS Flashing worked out well. :)

    Edit#
    ----
    Can you post a screenshot of the icon/desktop?
     
  39. heteringet

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    I removed the battery for about one hour before I rebooted the computer yes.

    Something I forgot to mention in my last post was that the resolution actaully got crappy when I removed ATI drivers after updating the BIOS/VBIOS. That was something that never occured before the update, meaning I could never tell if i had or didnt have the ATI drivers. - Wierd :confused:

    By purge, do you mean something else than just going into the tab "uninstall or modify"-tab? Like removing All folders in C: containing the name "ATI"?

    Yes, you can find the picture of my desktop in the link below. Look at the World of Warcraft-icon and compare it to any other icon. Looks awful.

    Imageshack - badicon.jpg
     
  40. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I had that on my GT627, took it off (saved it just in case I would need it later).

    Might be there to redirect airflow over other components.

    I just wanted the best GPU temps that I could get, I dont care about other components or dust or anything.
     
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  42. NotEnoughMinerals

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    Thanks, I think I'm going to remove it then. Considering i already drilled holes all over the panel and ripped the mesh off the vents by the CPU, dust isn't a factor.
     
  43. Septimus_DSX

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    Are you speaking of the small plastic piece stuck to the vent on little foam pads? If so, get rid of it. It serves no useful purpose.
     
  44. NotEnoughMinerals

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    took it off, not much difference, maybe a degree at most.
     
  45. Septimus_DSX

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    More than drilling holes, a few sinks on the GPU plate will drop your temps like a rock. I would say at least 10 C. Just jam in as many as you can find.
     
  46. NotEnoughMinerals

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    I'm thinking about it but I'd really like to keep my warranty in tact. What ram sinks did you buy btw?
     
  47. jonathan300

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    are you just covering the heatsink with them? How easy are they to pry off? (if i ever need to)
     
  49. Septimus_DSX

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    I just used whatever I could lay my hands on, an old set of Vantec BGA Ramsinks. The sinks are a very tight fit to the plastic rear cover, so there is no chance of them coming in contact with any electrical connections. You can use the sticky thermal pads that come with it. I simply slapped some AS5 on the back-plate and slapped the sinks on. The positive pressure on the sinks more than suffices to ensure good contact. Plus, AS5 is very thick, so lateral motion is minimized.

    Prying them off is very easy in either my case or with the stock thermal pads. Remember to remove them by twisting. Do not try to yank them off.

    ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting
     
  50. NotEnoughMinerals

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    Looks good, I saw you only need 6 sinks there. I'm guessing buying 2 sets should more than suffice?
     
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