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    ***The MSI GT72 Dominator Pro (GTX-880M) Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. iTzZent

    iTzZent Notebook Consultant

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    btw... the new EC Firmware 1503 fix the battery problems. The wearlevel is now @ 0% (before was 31%) and the battery life is longer.
     
  2. Kaozm

    Kaozm Notebook Evangelist

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    Thank you everyone that was sceptical to the battery issues, seems your voices have been heard! Now what is the new battery life? Great if anyone could do a test!! :)
     
  3. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Applauds to MSI...... they said they would look into the issue, and obviously they have.

    :)
     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Just goes to show that as a community we have a voice and as long as we press for solutions in a polite and calm manner, we can go a long way!

    Now.... for that GT72 with 980m :D
     
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    riegz0r Notebook Consultant

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    What can you tell me about the gt72 vs Alienware 17 and the 750jz with the same specs? equal or better performance? Whos the winner? Because i like the gt72 but im still waiting new gen CPU GPU and at the same time im research the asus and Alienware laptops because now this machines have lower price than the gt72 and same specs
     
  6. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    I'm sure you are capable of doing your own comparisons, and ultimately, you'll buy what you like, can afford, and what makes you happy...... but I'm sure the next-gen GT72 will be a winner. ;)

    :)
     
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    sayro Newbie

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    comparison between ASUS G750JX - Alienware 17 - MSI GT72, done by PowerNotebooks


     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    There is no actual "Winner" per se. All are great laptops and offer different things. There are new products bound very soon from MSI so you might want to check that out.
     
  9. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Not a bad video comparison, but from a resellers point of view, ergo somewhat lacking the critical view. After all, this reseller SELLS all of those notebooks, LOL! :D

    I have always appreciated the quality put into Alienware systems, but have always seen them as a boutique brand, with a pricing mark-up I am not willing to pay. Asus on the other hand, has been a strong competitor, but has fallen short in my experience, both in feature benefits, and in product/customer support. In the hardware category, one point I did not hear in this video, is that Asus is using (and has been for a couple of years) their own proprietary, non-MXM standard graphics card. As such, to me all things are not equal here in the hardware category, and though most will never upgrade their GPU's, it's still nice in keeping with standards, and believing one has future options.

    The video also seemed to diminish MSI's SuperRAID 3 feature, using the lessor configured GT72 Dominator Pro-010 for comparison purposes. Had they compared the GT72 Dominator Pro-007 with the Asus G750JZ-XS72, MSI is now $100 cheaper, with improved storage capacity. Advancement in storage technologies, is another category where MSI shines, and this will only improve with future Intel chipsets and IRST support. This is wherein users will experience greater system responsiveness, and improved performance, seen in system boot and program loading times. Gaming notebooks are about performance..... gamers want overall system performance, and this includes storage systems as well. I do not believe either Alienware or Asus have advanced to M.2 storage technology, both are still using mSATA, and neither have x4 RAID M.2 capability.

    Yes, some folks may not need or be able to afford SuperRAID 3, but MSI has provided the user with options in lesser SKU's, which can still be upgraded at the user's discretion. As well as a quality product, isn't life better when end-users have options? At the very least we feel better about our purchases, when we know we have options. I for one appreciate the option of SuperRAID 3, and MSI taking the lead with M.2 storage technology...... and they have done so, keeping cost at a minimum for the latest tech.

    MSI has been listening and taking interest in our feedback, and this is precisely why I am in their camp for the moment. For the past few years they have focused on the gaming community, and done so in the most affordable way, providing the latest technologies available. The GT72 is a good example of this, and soon, MSI will again be taking the lead with value in upcoming next-gen technologies...... VERY SOON!

    In my mind, when doing a feature by feature, benefit by benefit comparison, also looking at cost, warranty, and support, for the moment MSI is the clear winner...... and the other brands really can't compare, because they truly cannot be configured equally. Even if they could, I seriously doubt the other brands would offer MSI's bang-for-the-buck.

    :)
     
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  10. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    mrigankp Notebook Geek

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    Hi Striker,

    Just quickly regarding post #795 on page 80, I have installed the latest driver for Killer WiFi but I am still experiencing issues.

    Can you please assist? Thanks!
     
  13. Brentdyer

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    I just received my New Gt72 that is replacing my old Gj73 that is having hardware issues.

    I had the same issue of the Wifi connection just dropping out. Opening up the killer Wireless App and un-clicking "enable bandwidth control" seemed to fix the problem for me.

    Besides that one issue I'm really stoked, going to leave my computer on overnight so it can download all of my steam games.
     
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    Thanks mate. I'm at work right now but will try that later this evening.
     
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    Yes, CPU, RAM and such may change.
    GTX 970M and GTX 980M however are 100% locked :thumbsup:
     
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    You said it, not me. :)
     
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Its ok, I dont have NDA to worry about :p :thumbsup:
     
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    MSI were always going to put the latest cards in their machines to be fair, no matter what those cards are or when they may be out ;) They are a top tier manufacturer of both motherboards and GPUs so they are going to have one of the shortest turn arounds in the industry.
     
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    You know Derek fear the Nvidia/MSI whip when he have no reply or even dear to click like on my post :p

    Cant be that tight security check around resellers can it? :p
     
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    A guys gotta eat lunch sometime... Just got back. Since you're hungry for likes I'll hit it on both posts.
     
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    I forgot all about the time zones. Its late here in Scandinavia you know :p
    Nah, wasnt looking for likes. I'll rep you in return for the effort lol
     
  24. riegz0r

    riegz0r Notebook Consultant

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    The i7 4710hq CPU its bottleneck for the 880m? So many ppl complaning about that... Saying the laptop need atleast 4810 cpu
     
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    Really havent heard of any bottleneck issues. Asus does the same in the G750 models which have a 880M and their arent any issues there either. It would be nice to have a 4810 in there but the 4710 should be plenty power.
     
  26. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    It is a slight bottleneck but not as bad. If you use a better processor then you can get better performance overall.
     
  27. zipperi

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    But that 5 to 10% performance diff doesn't mean too much.
     
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    Correct, just a little bit.
    The point is that the particular processor aforementioned does bottleneck the GPU by a minor margin.
     
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    These CPU's cant be upgraded though, so if you are wanting a better one consider the GT70 models as they also offer GTX 880M versions.
     
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    You should be able to add the extra 200mhz still.
     
  31. ryzeki

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    I don't think people need to really worry about it. Sure, in some games, higher end processors do give the edge and can add minimum frames as well, but overall the 4710HQ is a very solid performer and at 3.5 ghz using intel XTU, you will run games just fine. :D

    They should really offer newer, higher end HQ processors though.
     
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    Those require a new motherboard and add the expense of iris pro graphics though.
     
  33. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Most games are more GPU dependent, than CPU, and the 4710HQ will run most anything just fine. If you guys aren't careful, you'll have folks thinking the CPU is inadequate, and that XTU is a necessary evil.... and that simply would not be true. ;)

    I agree, I too would like to see faster 4xxx processors, and I am still waiting for (and expecting) my new Maxwell, X-treme Edition, MSI GT72.

    :)
     
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    Hello! Can someone explain me how to set up the special keys (the ones unders the key for switch between the integrated gpu and the nvidia on hte left of the keyboard)?
    I have tried to use the steelseries program as well as SCM but those keys doesn't appear...

    Also I seem to have a problem with hte Killer Network Manger. I want ot disable the functionality that assisgn to every program a priority in the netowrk foe download. I uncheck the option in the manager, but everytime i restart my pc, the option get reset and is ticked again...
     
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    Hey Folks! I was wondering if any GT72 owners (hopefully some are here) could tell me if the present version of the GT72 is worth the wait or should I wait for the update (900m series cards and hopefully a slightly better cpu) I've saved up for a long time, but fear that it could become obsolete in the near future. Im not sure if the projected difference in graphics quality is so great and if i should wait. Any and all input is really appreciated. I just want to get rid of this P.O.S mac and get to gaming!
     
  36. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    I can tell you the current GT72 is awesome, and if you have the patience, your wait will be rewarded with supreme awesomeness. :D

    The next-gen GT72's are just on the horizon. Soon, very soon!

    :)
     
  37. ZacharyA97

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    I will wait then. When is the projected update?
     
  38. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Not 100% certain, but I am thinking before another month passes. :)
     
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    Yes! Thank you very much for your input. :thumbsup:
     
  40. ryzeki

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    In sept 18 they should fully announce the new GPUs, and by otcober we should see the updated models around. There are 3dmark scores in their databases that point to MSI using 970m already, so it's just a matter of time :D
     
  41. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    I know this has been covered before, but some are still complaining of low audio quality, and I am adding this to the thread's lead post, in the 'How To' section. If you are one of those unsatisfied, give this a try.....

    :)
     
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    thanks. Have you got any thoughts about the wifi issue? I have unchecked 'enable bandwidth control' but I'm still experiencing wifi issues. I have to turn off and turn on wifi on my laptop in order for the wifi to work again. Please help!
     
  43. JoshInDaPhils

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    I've seen simular issues that are heat related in particular with low signal strength. Try limiting your TX power output and see if that helps it will be in the advance properties page of the NIC in device manager.
     
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    From what I saw with my GT780, and since they kept the same setup for the GT70 I'm sure it continued. The single fan though it worked well, created a lot of noise when you maxed out all your settings to play games and would need to use the cooler booster which made it just horrible to listen too so I had to buy a headset to ignore the fan.
     
  45. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    I know you have had a lot of trouble with the Wi-Fi, so try this, and if it doesn't help, I'd get with your reseller or MSI about replacing the card. Completely uninstall your current LAN/WLAN software. Then, use QualComm's 64-bit Killer Cleaner, to remove any remaining file remnants from your system. Once this is done, reinstall the latest Bigfoot LAN/WLAN package (ver.: 8.1.0.23) from MSI...... reboot, and test again.

    If this doesn't do the trick, I think at this point you should consider having the Wi-Fi card replaced.

    :)
     
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    Hi~ Has anyone been able to turn adaptable brightness off when using the battery? I've checked several forums addressing this issue and none of their solutions worked for me. When it's plugged to the AC I figured out how to disable it tho.

    Thanks.
     
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    Aside from doing it through Control Panel > Power Options, have you tried turning it off through the Intel Graphics Control Panel?
    If not, right-click on your desktop > Graphics Properties > Power > On Battery > Disable Display Power Saving Technology.
     
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    Yeah, I've tried that as well as disabling the "sensor thing" Windows service and nothing worked. I don't know what else to do :_

    Did that work for you?
     
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    Hi, long time lurker first time poster. The question I have is, has anyone used the GT72 for CADCAM or Solidworks, Solidedge etc? I game when I get the chance but I spend most of my time on the CADCAM side of things. I was wondering if anyone has any personal experience using the laptop in any of the mainstream CAD packages or CAM packages and how it preforms. I did some web searches but didn't have any luck. Thanks
     
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    Playing around with the Intel settings worked for me :mask: so I don't have a solution for you
     
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