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    ***The Official MSI GT 60 w/GTX-680M Owner?s Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by xMAR99, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. GenTechPC

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    Go to nVidia Control Panel > Manage 3D settings > Global Settings and change the preferred graphics from Auto to High Performance nVidia GPU, apply the settings and re-open GPU-Z and it will show CUDA is supported.
     
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    That or add GPU-Z to the high performance list.
     
  3. zamdam

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    Thanks. I guess that wont affect any performance in games huh..
     
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    I have another issue.. For some reason in the game Planetside 2, I can't enable PhysX, although they just released the update that allows you to use it. I can enable it on my desktop computer but not my laptop. Am I missing something with this GTX680m?

    no physx.JPG

    Also, just started my laptop and waited for everything to load and then I clicked on Steam, why is my disk at 100% usage and its only reading at 3.0MB/s?
    Shouldn't it be around 80 - 100MB/s to be at 100% disk usage?

    why.jpg
     
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    Yeah it won't affect gaming performance.

    There were some issues with of PhysX on Planetside 2 and nVidia drivers, you will need to download the latest nVidia driver and maybe apply this at Planetside 2's useroptions.ini :

    ForceGpuPhysics=1
    GpuPhysics=1


    Also nothing to worry about the performance of your C: drive usage and performance. Your Disk 1 C: is your OS drive, there is always something going on at the background such as browser, Antivirus programs or Windows itself, as long as there are processes working it will shows 100% but since it's not transferring date files so it only shows 3MB/s, therefore, there are 3MB/s of processes at a time.
     
  6. zamdam

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    Planetside 2 has released a few updates in the past weeks that has enabled players to enable the PhysX in the game settings. you no longer have to edit the ini file.
     
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    Thanks for the update. :)
     
  8. zamdam

    zamdam Notebook Consultant

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    You're welcome, but Physx isn't working on my laptop but it is on my desktop..

    Any other ideas?
     
  9. deuscreator

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    Hi guys,

    Just got mine from Ken at GentechPC. Awesome machine. The laptop finish is really nice, the speakers are amazing and the keyboard is a definitive step forward from the gt683dxr. The gtx680m scored 6175 in 3dMark11 on stock and it barely got up to 72 C during the benchmarking. Anyone reading this and still thinking on pulling the trigger, I'd say go for it, this piece of hardware provides the ultimate bang for your buck currently and I could not be more satisfied. Once again, a big thanks to Ken for his amazing support and for handling my special requests regarding overseas shipping and his seemingly infinite patience towards my email-tsunami. :thumbsup:

    I'm yet to test the rig with some games, this workday is not progressing fast enough.. I have an evil urge to plug it in here and now..
     
  10. Meaker@Sager

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    You know you want to ;)

    Next can you match our 8000 scoring overclocked model? :p

    But you are getting a healthy score for a stock machine, so first really you need to be hitting steam ;)
     
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    I have a GT60 ONE 220 and after updating some drivers and then installing the Beta EC (16F3EMS1_T16.rar), I am having a problem with games freezing. It is happening 100% of the time when I play anything. Usually happens 5-10secs after I start to move or do anything. Everything else is working without any troubles. Its only once I load a save in a game and start playing that my system locks up and has to be forced shut down. Is it because I didnt also Flash svl7's unlocked MSI VBIOS? bad driver? Temps are not any higher than before the EC tweak either

    Edit: It seems I have found the culprit.. The freezes only happen if I have my xbox 360 controller plugged in for some reason. I can use a usb mouse and even can use a ps3 controller with the motion joy profiles/drivers. Tried un-installing the motion joy drivers as they have given me trouble in the past but it didnt fix the issue. I hope this problem is just localized to the xbox controller and not several different peripherals...
     
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    Hey guys,

    For the past 2 weeks I have been using my GT60 - 403US w/ GTX680M and Windows 8 -64 bit. Deviations from the stock is a 240 gb SSD and a 24 GB Ram.
    The game that I play the most is Planetside 2, and as some of you know that is a CPU intensive game. My processor is the i7 3630QM, and I get an fps of 40-50 when not in battle. However, when the action starts it regularly drops to 15-25 fps (settings are between Medium and Low, nothing is in High), but regains when I look away from the action field ie, turn the camera other way round. Does any one have a solution to this problem? I have tried with the Turbo button switched on but that didn't help at all. I haven't overclocked anything also.

    Here is my 3DMark 11 score, and it is in the lower end of what people are getting:
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F3 score: P5975 3DMarks

    Thanks.
     
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    It's pretty close, you would need to graph the CPU and GPU behavior when you are having issues to see what is going on.
     
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    I am pretty sure it has more to do with the CPU because with Alt+F you can monitor the FPS in PlanetSide 2 and see which hardware is in use when the drops happen.

    Anyone else who plays here Planetside 2 have similar experiences as I do?
     
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    if Physx is grayed out you may still want to try edit the ini file see if it works.

    Glad you received the laptop so quickly, have fun. :)
     
  16. zamdam

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    Can someone here with a GT60 install Planetside 2 on their laptop and see if physx works for that game because its not working on mine.
     
  17. deuscreator

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    Thanks Meaker, I will come to you and Ken with overclocking tips once I cannot resist tinkering with it. Already got Skyrim with a bucketload of mods (mostly visuals like the HD texture pack) and naturally got a hold of Crysis 3 as well, planning to test today..

    After having only 71-72 as maximum temp during benchmarking without the turbo fan on and being in a well-heated room, I do believe that there is some serious horsepower still lurking around in this card. A friend of mine teases me anyway by allegedly getting slightly more 3dMarks with his stock 7970M and 8074 with OC, (Tessellation off), which kinda makes me wonder..

    What is the maximum stable clock for the 680M without voltage modification according to your experiences?

    (Also, I remember seeing a "to-do-list" about the preferred settings for this laptop in general - like throttlestop, custom EC and BIOS to fix some errors, I might remember wrong, but if there is some guide, could someone link it, I tried to search it but without any luck)

    As usual, thanks for any reply. Oh and Ken: luckily Rammstein is the central hub for almost all transatlantic air traffic for the military, so maybe that's why I got it this fast..
     
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    Around 987mhz but you need to do some aggressive mods to make that temp stable in games.

    If you don't care about voltage you can get it up to the 1140mhz region, if you don't care about memory voltage you can get it up to 2700mhz from 1800mhz :D
     
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    Geez, those are some brutal numbers, you don't mess around..All right, I will start step by step.. Thanks!
     
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    Holy S.

    That is massive. What kind of bios have you used? Any specialty settings (special paste, cooling, etc)?
     
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    Heck..

    Turned on Nvidia Oc tool, turbo mode is on, MSI Afterburner active it shows GPU was utilized 99% during benchmark. Still, I got worse results. Reading back it seems I might need a newer bios.. Can anyone suggest a 100% compatible for the msi 16F3 barebone with the 680m?

    Thanks for your insight in advance..
     
  23. zamdam

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    I play Planetside 2 and have been trying to get some questions answered about PhysX not working on my GT60 with the 680m.. Does PhysX work on yours in Planetside 2? If so, what did you do that I didnt do?
     
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    Oookay,

    I think I have done my homework read through many threads, including the ones at techinferno. I'm still not sure whether a new EC or Bios could help with my scores and overall performance: 6347 in 3dmark11 was the maximum that I cuold get, using the numbers Ken provided in one of his previous posts ( TDE On, NV OC Tool running in the system tray, MSI Afterburner: Core +135 VRAM: +178), but he got more than 600 points more with his tests..

    I'm using a barebone 16f3 with the gt680m does anyone here have any experience with flashing it?

    Thanks again in advance!
     
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    1.087v bios, IC diamond, max fan speed, high performance pads.
     
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    Kudos, Meaker!

    I dare not trying to replicate that result.. Still, if you could point me at the right direction with my EC+Bios problem, I'd be really grateful.. (16f3 barebone with 680m)
     
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    EC is over at the MSI.com forums, Vbios is over at tech inferno (and for your own sake stick to the MSI files and not sager like the person who bricked their machine).
     
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    Thanks Meaker, I have already asked around there as well.
     
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    so now that ive had this thing for about a week, i have to say i am in love with it. it rips through anything that i've thrown at it and i'm absolutely blown away every time i turn it on and its completely ready to go almost instantly. I do have one thing i need to ask though; is 3dmark vantage freezing for anyone else? i cannot get it to work, it freezes my whole computer and i need to manually power it off and turn it back on again whereas 3dmark 11 works fine. any ideas?
     
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    Re-download it and install it again.
     
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    Tried that already, same result. My driver version is 314.22 if that makes a difference
     
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    Tried that, same result. My driver version is 314.22 if that makes a difference
     
  33. ILvane

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    Hi guys! First post here, recently found about this website while looking for a solution to my problem with GT60.
    So, I bought mine last month and from the day I bought it, I have been experiencing the TDR/stutter/crash problems on every game. And basically anything that uses the 680M. Whenever I launch a game normally (DotA 2 and Need For Speed:MW were the two games I tested initially), after 5-10 minutes, I start to get incredible FPS drops for 2-3 seconds, it goes on normally for another 2-3 seconds, than another drop, and so on. An annoying crackling/popping sound accompanies the drops, along with the inability to use the mouse/keyboard. I have tried every driver from 306.97 to 314.22 (with clean install+driver sweeper), it doesn't seem to make any difference. So if any of you fine gentlemen can point me in the right direction to hopefully solve this, it would be greatly appreciated.
    I am relatively computer illiterate so clear instructions would be awesome.
    Thanks, cheers.
     
  34. xMAR99

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    You may have a defective card, I would suggest you contact your reseller asap.
     
  35. ILvane

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    Maybe, but I don't think so. It seems like this is a fairly common problem. And I managed to play for 5 hours once (2 or 3 weeks before), full performance, without any errors. After I restarted (without changing anything), the TDR problems showed up again.
    I will contact the reseller but I study abroad so earliest I can do that is in the summer. It would be awesome if I could make it work before that.
    There are all kinds of suggestions from altering DirectX, increasing voltage from BIOS etc. but I don't want to try anything that won't work and ruin warranty.
    Thank you very much anyway, xMAR99!
    P.S. I checked the temperatures, it's not caused by (I think) the temperatures either. It barely hits 70C in-game.
    Not any OC done by me.
    Other than the nVidia drivers, all drivers installed are the versions which came with the installation CD.
     
  36. amassao

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    Are you running Win8 or Win7? I'm having a similar problem, all games were crashing after some time, including old games like left 4 dead 2 and battlefield bad company 2. My laptop came with Win8, but currently I'm running on Win7 Ultimate 64 bits.

    I've uninstalled all nvidia drivers; intel hd graphics; ran driver sweeper on safe mode; installed the latest Intel HD graphics driver (not the one that came on DVD or the one from MSI page), just google "intel hd graphics 4000" and install the one from Intel page; reboot; install 314.22 nvidia driver; reboot.

    Followed these instructions Fixing the Nvlddmkm Error (Display driver has stopped responding)

    At nvidia settings, changed power management mode to prefer maximum performance

    Not sure what worked for me, but after that, my laptop started to run games, not 100%, but much better than before.

    I'm still looking for more information.

    Hope that helps and let me know if you find any other solutions.
     
  37. ILvane

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    Thank you very much for the input, amassao!
    I am running Win8. I will try the driver stuff and follow the instructions in the link, in a couple of days (midterms are approaching and I just can't risk something going wrong), possibly. Hope that eases the situation.
    I currently run games with Intel, so, I would be happy with a below-%100 performance, until summer at least.
    Will keep you informed after I try these, thanks again.
    Cheers.
     
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    You should be able to get things running smoothly, the right bios and EC lets me run at 4.2ghz CPU and 1033/2600 GPU clocks without a hitch in crysis 3 and Bioshock infinite so properly operating hardware should see you good at stock.
     
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    I've seen GTX680M crashes out of the box so maybe it's like what xMAR99 said the bad video card. You shouldn't need to do anything about voltage in order for the games to run smoothly without crashing.

    Another common problems is the RAM, you can try pull out one stick of RAM at a time to test.
     
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    Still no luck with finding an updated bios/EC for my 16f3 barebone (with 680m). The MSI forums and techinferno seem only to have such files for the gt60. Tried search by every possile keyword, dug through relevant topics, asked around, nothing. Am I really the only one having such a barebone and would like to update these firmwares? I'm also unsure whether my problem (low scores when OC-ing) could be solved by EC+Bios update or a GPU bios flash would be the solution.. I'm grateful for any help/assistance/insight.
     
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    Hi,
    I'm using my SteelSeries Siberia v2 with the laptop. However, I've been having some sound issues from the day I bought the laptop.
    First of all, I'm currently using the second from left port for mic and 3rd from left for headphones jacks. (though I cannot really figure it out which is proper port for headphones.)

    The volume of the headphones is very low, I can barely listen in game voices with game sounds. There are some applications which work fine but with game and voice chat the volume is very low.
    Since my headphones works perfectly fine @ very high volume w/ other devices (iPad, laptop). I'm guessing there is something wrong in the laptop.

    I tried going to Audio properties and realtek stuff but didnt help. :\
     
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    Headphones is the first one from the left. Mic is the second from the left. If you still have low volume, make sure speaker configuration is set to stereo in the Realtek HD Audio manager.
     
  43. amassao

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    Well, I have some progress on the crash/BSOD.

    I updated the EC (for Win7) from MSI website, but experienced some crashing when running new games (Bioshock Infinite, Crysis 3 etc), nothing compared to before, but...

    I was monitoring the GPU temperatures using MSI Afterburner and noticed that those crashing were, probably, caused by overheating (normaly they happened after 80C). So, using Afterburner, I underclocked the core clock by 20 MHz and memory clock by 40 MHz, it became much cooler than before (about 75C-79C) and experienced no more crashing after almost 1 hour of playing.

    Does anyone had the same behavior from my laptop (MSI GT60 0NE)?
    Does it worth to try updating the original BIOS? Remembering that my laptop originally came with Win8, and now I have Win7 64 bits on it - MSI (from what I understood, I can't update it with the one provided in their website "- If the notebook you purchased has Win7 Bios installed, please DON'T attempt to update using Windows 8 bios (or vice versa). Failure to abide may result in bricking your system. ")

    bios version E16F3IMS.5OU
    build date and time 11/23/2013 15:22:49
     
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    So, has anyone got PhysX to work on Planetside 2 with the GT60 and GTX680m? I have never gotten it to work on this laptop, although it works perfectly fine on my desktop. Same driver revisions, same windows 8 x64..

    And before anyone says you need to modify the useroptions.ini file, you don't have to do that anymore. Planeside released an update that supports PhysX now. All you have to do now is to go to settings while in the game, click graphics, and then put a checkmark in the box by PhysX.

    On my GT60, it is still grayed out.. So I cant put a checkmark in it and I have already tried adding the line in useroptions.ini that is suppose to be a work around and it still doesn't work..

    Can someone please do me a huge favor and install the game for me and see if you can enable PhysX.. ? Please...
     
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    Have you had a look at your physX processor section in the nvidia driver panel?
     
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    Yes. It is set to the 680. It looks the same as my desktop and its 680..

    thank you for the fast reply. I have been working on this issue since January..
     
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    So going to replace the OEM thermal pads and paste since I'm not satisfied with my temps. Will the 7 carat version of IC Diamond be enough for the CPU and GPU, and maybe a second time if i do it wrong? I believe I read that the pads I need are .5mm, so would this work,

    Fujipoly

    I've changed thermal compounds on desktops a few times before but this is a first for the pads and anything with a laptop. Would Artic Clean help with the OEM pads and compound on it? In the past just used a bit of normal rubbing alcohol, like 91%, and a coffee filter.
     
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    PhysX was disabled by developer due to performance impact on the game. updates with PhysX enable was delayed.

    You can still hack the useroptions.ini to force PhysX to enable.
     
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    7 Is fine for 4 applications yes, I have used phobya pads with excellent results, don't know about other brands.
     
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    I am in the exact same situation as you. I have a GT60 barebone with GTX680M and i get lower than normal scores when overclocking.
    I heard that Svet from the MSI forums has an unlocked bios but he only gives it for a donation.

    EDIT: Meant to reply deuscreator's post.
     
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