***The Official MSI GT 70 w/GTX-680M Owner?s Lounge***

Honest opinion... No. Sorry Genentech no hard feelings. The thermal paste is easy to change and it's cheap enough to buy if you ever do want to change it. Iv gone from basic paste to icdiamond and can't say I noticed much real difference in the temps.

Genentech do offer a very good service, but other companies do also. At the end of the day they are all the same machine so check out the trading police's On the companies you are looking at buying from and there may be something like a longer warranty etc which may actually warrant the extra money.

 

Hey guys - an GT70 audio question.

So I have this headphones:
Beats Solo HD with ControlTalk by Dr Dre Headphones Black - Beats By Dre Solo HD - Beats By Dre Over-Ear Headphone
(which have this jack to use with iphone, you know - the one which transmits both headphones and microphone signal)

And I am having trouble to make it work with GT70. Did anyone tried to make it work? (is it even possible?) I mean - the headphones work, but the microphone does not.

Any ideas?

 

If its a single jack then no it won't work.

 

What is the performance difference between the:

680m and the 675mx in the gt70 model?

im guessing very minimal? is the 680 superior?

 

When you compare benchmark programs like 3D Mark Vantage the 675MX averages 16462 and the 680M averages 20891 so about a 25% increase in performance.

 

Newer/heavier benchmarks give even more difference, about 45% in 3DMark 11 and 3DMark Fire Strike.

 

Yes, in graphics limited situations 40-50% is about the level.

This is in line with the reduced core count and clock speed.

 

Hello guys,

I have a question. Ive had my MSI GT70 for about 14 months now. Yesterday I was playing rome total war and all was business as usual, then suddenly the laptop went off. Now i cant turn it on anymore, and if i plug it it does not charge. Not sure if the problem is from the battery or the charge or whatever. Any help would be highly appreciated.

 

Is DC jack loose if wiggled gently?
Can you try EC reset by disconnecting the battery and AC adapter for 1 minute? Then reconnect just the AC adapter, power on to test.

 

Hey Kevin, thanks for the reply. Btw I bought my rig from you guys at Gentech. I used a voltmeter to test the output of the adapter and it gives 20V which means that its fine. I will try EC reset now, but I guess that will not work. Should the laptop turn on anf function if the battery pack is out and only the AC adapter connected?

 

Output at load and output at no load can be quite different.

 

Tested the EC reset, it didnt work. The power button flashes white then dies. The charger is fine but when I plug it the charging light doesnt come on. The laptop is lifeless.

 

Quick update, 2 days since the crisis. Now when i plug the adapter in, the charging light comes on but still I cant power up the laptop. Any hints would be much appreciated.

 

This sounds like a dead motherboard. But...

Another very possible item is a dead or loose PCB (I think that's what it's called) panel cable. I had to replace one once and it caused very similar symptoms. If your up to it removed the Power control panel by prying it up at the far left edge. There is probably a YouTube video on this. Then very gently lift it up until the pcb cable shows. It's very obvious which ribbon cable I'm talking about here. Be careful not to tear or pull on the cable when lifting the control panel out. Now there is a small latch to release the ribbon cable. Lift the latch up, and then reseat the cable and then lock it back in place by pushing the latch down. Now test the power button again.

Few other things you can try:

Try and boot with battery removed and only using AC power. Try a different power cord of you have one available.

Take out one stick of ram/ then try other stick.

Check and reseat both GPU and CPU

 

You would expect the power to simply not respond if the touch panel board cable was bad.

 

hello to Everybody,

my name is Ramon, im new in this site, and i have a GT70ne whit a GTX680m.

and ihave a problem whit the GPU Driver's.

the best driver for my laptop is the Nvidia 331.40 Beta.

if I install any version more modern, the games go with stoppages or mini freezes. (yesterday Nvida publish a new driver, and not work)

(info of a my chase in MSI nuevos drivers de NVidia 335.23 y mismo problema)

the games are F1 2013, Grid2, COD:Ghosts and Battlefield 4.

anyone have a similar problem?
what version of driver you use?

thanks in advance.
pd: sorry for my bad English
Ramon,

 

Thank you all for the replies. I tried all what you suggested, I guess its a motherboard failure . Just bad luck.

As for you Ramon, from personal experience I would suggest you update BIOS, but make sure you know what you are doing. You can find a guide to the update process on the MSI website.

 

HI guys.. I'm back again..

So MSI has my system. What I (and my IT SYS ADMIN Fiance) thought was a dead motherboard , MSI says is a dead video card. For those not wanting to look back at my older post.. My system just powered down one day and would not come back up. I would get the LED lights to blink once then nothing at all.. We figured it was the Mobo..

What I don't quite get (never had a system with this in it before) is why didn't the On board Intel video card kick in if the GTX-680M is the only thing that died? If I understand how the system works with Optimums it runs default on the Intel card then kicks the Nvidia card on when it is needed, RIGHT? I mean I could never even get windows to index my system with the 680M it always wanted to default to the Intel and I could never pole a true score on the system as it was..

 

It seems that the power adapter connection is a weak link in my GT70, the power adapter is putting out 19 volts but at the connection point it gets very hot like a high resistance connection and fails to charge the laptop, sometimes you can wiggle the connection and make it work, apparently it needs another ac/dc jack.

 

Don't wiggle it too much as it could be stressing the pcb.

 

Yep, I try not to move it whenever possible.

 

Get it looked as ASAP as it's asking for trouble like that.

 

This could be caused by a short-circuit in the video card which prevented the main board to function properly.
Such circuitry does not have any fail-safe mechanism built-in, but if you remove it then it might had worked.
But like you said, we didn't know what went wrong initially, thus sending it in is the only way to find out the root cause of failure.

 

I had it fixed and she is running fine.

Thanx.

 

I have a question, my GT70 refuses to run anymore, I need some files off my SuperRAID drives, and no time to get it fixed. Can I and how can I access my SSDs as an external and what kind of adapter should I get?

If that's not possible, any alternatives?

 

Why GT70 also died a couple 2 weeks ago, same as AbsintheKat's problem. And most probably same as Tarakiyee. What is going on with these rigs!?!?

 

A pair of msata to SATA adapters plugged into a modern intel PC would work. Each msata is just an ssd after all.

 

hello,

my problem whit the slow works of my msi is solved whit the latest driver of nvidia GeForce 337.50 Beta. GeForce 337.50 Beta Performance Drivers Increase Frame Rates By Up To 71% | GeForce
mi laptop is more fast and the games are more fluid!

I am most grateful for your help

 

I been extremly happy with MSI GT70, for almost two years been perfect (aside from a keyboard issue), but im reaching the point where the twin 128gb ssds arent enough for my OS/Programs/Games, im considering getting 2x Samsung Electronics 840 EVO mSATA 0.85-Inch Solid State Drive MZ-MTE250BW, but im not too sure its the best choice, i probably wont be able to use Magician software on the raid array, nor i think i could use the rapid setup for the raid array, still its a great msata ssd, so just wondering what do you guys recommenced for the GT70.

 

For mSATA, it's not bad. You probably can avoid the software raid options with 256gb 840 EVO as the primary boot drive for apps, and use either a 256gb ssd or 1tb hdd for secondary storage.

There are cheaper and more reliable units than the 840 EVO without the read /write performance, etc. Plextor M5m comes to mind, but it's a good idea to check out the reviews on tech sites to compare value.

Choose the larger SSD for boot up and apps, aim to leave 50% free space, for performance and you won't need RAID.
Cloud storage and backups, sure.
But If raid breaks down, it does when it's most inconvenient for you, and in a laptop, that's a huge understatement.

 

Btw, I did some overclocking trials on my 680M changing the fan speed with GT 70 Fan Control. 100% speed gave always worse results than 70 or 80%. "Clear" difference of 1% or more. Might the full speed fan lower the voltage delivered to the chip core causing some micro clockdowns?

 

No, the fan will be regulated by completely different power circuitry and would not be allowed to pollute the supply rail of the gpu.

 

It's possible, since the total power available is fixed, so increasing power consumption may cause other parts to receive lesser power resource.

 

Sounds reasonable - MSI seems to be strict when limiting my GT70 resources. It overclocks very badly and should be flashed with a modded VBios if I'd want to oc. But I don't care, it's about fast enough so far.

 

The vbios settings are those sanctioned by nvidia and are the same across all brands.

 

So are the differences of overclockability between examples of the same brand just pure coincidence/discrepancy in chip level? My GT70 begins to downclock at about 20 MHz of OC; some users seem to be able easily to go to +135 MHz and with flashed bios even higher.

 

Every chip ever produced has different properties to the others produced.

Minute differences across the billions of transistors mean that every chip ever produced and most likely ever will produce a bell curve of samples.

 

Well, I think I had just bad luck with my laptops during past years - 5 different makes and all of them mediocre overclockers . Core +10 to 15% and memory at best +20% giving on benchmarks about +10%. My 680M memory clocks happily +35% but it gives just between +5 - 10% as the memory speed isn't too significant compared to the core speed. Who cares...

 

I have an issue with my gt70. I have a laptop with two ssd on raid and a hdd. One of the ssd won't start,I don't know why, and Windows is installed on them. My laptop won't start, and I really need all the files that were on those ssd. Please can someone help me get my data back.

 

If an ssd is gone then the data is lost. Always backup important files.

 

Hello peeps. I have GT70 with 675MX and since I put SSD into it and reinstalled OS, its time to get some info on few things that were bugging me for too long. My BIOS is 10U with EC4.14, nothing changed from default and Im running Win7, while notebook shipped without OS.

So first thing is GPU 3D core fluctuation. I have seen some post with people saying sometimes their 680M is running 758Mhz instead of 771 that it should be running and the same is for my 675MX. While MSI GT70 675MX should(and sometimes does) have clock rate of 666, most of the time my GT70 boots with GPU clock 653. This wouldnt be a great deal, but if it boots with 653 core clock, i cant overclock it in any way I tried to. With my old OS(that I still have in old HDD), the chance to boot with 666 clock was about 20 to 40 percent. With new OS however, I havent seen 666 clock once after more than 100 boots. If it boots with 666, I can perfectly OC it to vBIOS locked +135 and it goes without a problem. Nothing works for 653 however. Im using MSI afterburner, and I can down-clock it, or overclock memory, but core clock doesnt OC. I tried with MSI VGA OC, without it, with it set to start with admin privileges and stuff, but nothing helps to make it boot as 666 AFAIK.

Second things if MSI VGA OC itself. Does it do anything at all to Kepler based GT70s? Nothing I have done made me believe it does anything at all, and turbo button does nothing too.


Would be nice if someone could shed some light on this stuff.

 

For my GT70/680M VGA OC does something. Default behaviour after first install (Win 8): Core 771, memory 1800. After VGA OC installed and run: core 771, memory 1851. If VGA OC wasn't launched core dropped to 758 and memory 1800. After updated drivers and Win 8.1 VGA OC does nothing to memory but core is just 758 w/o VGA OC and 771 with VGA OC. Useless, MSI Afterburner at least works but reads the core clock erratically, about 10% high.
You should try overclocking with Nvidia Inspector:
http://www.guru3d.com/files_get/nvidia_inspector_download,1.html

 

I tried NI and pretty much any software that should work, but it has no effect if after boot GPU clock is 653. If its 666, MSI afterburner or NI both work without a problem, its not a software problem. This fluctuation might go away if i flashed some modded vBIOS like svl7, but I dont want to resort to that just now.

 

Target pstate 1 instead of 0 in nvidia inspector maybe?

 

What's the version of VGA BIOS you have for your GPU? Perhaps check with MSI to see if there's an update for it?

 

Well, I tried to force P5 and to OC it, but its the same usual, core clock stays at 653 if I try anything higher. One interesting thing though, while I was messing with P5 OCing, messed too much probably so my screen froze for few seconds and after the usual "Display driver stopped responding and ..." the core clock magically set itself at 666(and then OC works like a charm). While this would look like the whole problem is some kind of driver error, throughout the year Im using this notebook I have tried most drivers from OEM 306 to current 337 and all of them behaved the same. Btw after every sleep>wake up core clock always is 653, even if after boot it was 666.

Here is GPU-Z of my VGA. Im pretty sure there is no other BIOS for 675MX officially from MSI.

 

It is the latest version already.

 

I have the gt70 0ne and tried the windows 8.1 update from windows 8 when it first came out. I found out after that it wasn't supported and ended up having to reinstall. I checked today it it said that it is now supported but their upgrade page is not making much sense. If you look at the chart you will see an asterisk next to my model but what does that mean? "No additional driver and ap" I would think there would be a firmware update or something to support 8.1 but I didn't see anything. They had to fix something to make it work correctly.
Windows 8.1 Upgrade Support

 

I just installed the 8.1 update from Microsoft to my GT70 0NE. Later I have updated the HD4000 and Nvidia drivers. Nothing nasty did happen.

 

You have to make sure the BIOS, EC, and drivers are up-to-date before upgrading to Win 8.1 otherwise issues can happen.

You did these procedures correctly that's why you are not having any nasty issues.