The upcoming MSI GT72..... a pre-release discussion.

ES CPU isn't legal to sell/buy per Intel.
How many people will pay extra "premium" to buy a CPU upgrade? And can they get rid of their stock processor?
Who will buy their stock processor?

Need to wait and find out.

 

legal or not, safe or not, but with soldered chips it just can't be done.

 

Well I think it's more for resellers to be able to do it before order.

For tweakers or those who intend to upgrade the platform going forward there is a big step from the 47xx CPUs to the 48xx CPUs.

 

You can still replace soldered CPU just takes a lot more time and craft then before with far higher risk of damaging let alone the warranty repercussions ....

 

At the moment there is nothing to replace it with of course.

 

+3 HD foto

 

I am really hoping for an HDMI 2.0 improvement on the port, but I doubt it unless nvidia sorts it out.

Anyone know of a display port 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 adapter?

 

Here's a backpack will have GT72 :thumbsup:

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Alienware copypaste

 

It does look like a budget Alienware not necessarily a bad thing

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Not only like Alienware, with design and other brands have backpacks

 

That could be made by the same company... Targus.

 

Yep, most likely Targus...... but I'm not convinced that is the backpack arriving with the GT72, when it's finally released.

 

Mmmm dat lid and rear.

It seems MSI is starting to mimic the Alienware chassis. Not necessarily a bad thing, although the material MSI is using for the interior (keyboard platform area) looks kind of cheap-ish. This is more noticeable in the demo videos from Computex. I'd wish for them to keep it aluminum or even try the comfortable rubber finish that Alienware uses.

Thanks for the images Thor!

 

Try to keep in mind that the Computex showing was a 1st version pre-production prototype. From that showing, we already know there are many new improvements over current the GT70 model, and further intel suggest that the GT72 is a 'work-in-progress'..... and that it will improve, both aesthetically and specification wise, by the time of it's final release.

 

- which is slated to be very soon (4th quarter of this year), correct?

Although I think it would make more sense to launch it next year with the release of the GTX 900M series GPUs.

 

No, no, no . GT72 is due out this year .

 

See THIS post.

 

According to this pictures:

Heatpipes which supposed to take away heat from core of GPU will go above GPU memory, i don't think it is a good idea. I think it'll be much better to twist GPU about 180 degrees(just as clevo have).

 

I see, yeah they do pass over the GPU memory.

I want higher res pictures!

 

Alienware do the same in some, it's not a problem.

 

that's typical, you want vram to be covered by heat pipes

 

Eh not really but it is good for the vrms.

 

The keyboard is a bit different on the GT72 vs the GT70. Keys are not raised as much which is good to make sure there isnt too much light leakage.

I think it looks pretty nice. The LED around the touchpad and the Steelseries logo is also LED.

 

I think aesthetically it's a huge improvent over the GT70, overall very sharp.

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like the keyboard GS70, if exactly the same and just installed it bad. In GS70 keyboard is not attached by screws, he fastened plastic mounts. If I am correct then this is disposable design of. Once again took on the keyboard and place as it was not set. I really hope that I am wrong and he is attached by screws.

Disassembly guide for the GS70 - http://forum-en.msi.com/faq/uploads/172/MS-1771_Disassembly_guide.pdf

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Search - PC Connection

 

True. But I really hope that in the final GT72 version the angle of keyboard and notebook's base will be slightly bigger. Not as much as in GT70 but not as flat as it is in pre-release.

 

Meh, yeah I saw that, and this really doesn't give us any information. PC Connection is just drawing interest and hits to their website. Problem is prices and specs are not finalized, and then there are the NDA's as well.

 

XoticPC already has them listed on their website for preorder and configuration. I think the specs are therefore available. And ETA of mid-July?

 

Looks like there are several versions floating around

XoticPC have GT72 with soldered CPU (4xxxHQ)
GentechPC have GT72 with non soldered (4xxxMQ)

Good news is that GT72 comes with 230W PSU
Bad news is that they still are using the HM87 chipset

 

Wondering why there are soldered and non-soldered variants of the GT72. The soldered one will be more cheaper since the CPU is irreplaceable? I don't really understand.

Will the GT72 be substantially lighter than its predecessors or just only a slight difference?

And also, how much bigger and heavier will the 230W power brick be? It's a great desktop replacement but then again with a heavier power brick, mobility might be sacrificed.

The new GT72 looks lovely, feel like changing it the next year when Maxwell and Skylake/Broadwell comes with the machine.

 

Well going by the listing that have been put up, thinner, same width, deeper and same weight.

There are errors on all the listing so far though and they are pre orders so don't take all specs to complete heart.

 

WOW! Pre-orders already? Heheheheheh...........

GT72

I noted a few typos on pre-order listings. The GT72 DominatorPro-007 has 4x M.2 SSD with SuperRaid 3, so that's 512GB. For the moment, XoticPC is listing this model with 3x 128GB mSATA SSD. Also, I do not believe there are CPU variants..... I think both the DominatorPro-007 & 010 SKU's have soldered HQ processors.

 

I have no idea. I don`t understand it either

4 drives in Raid0 is so useless. Actually makes performance worse than single and 2 drives in Raid0. But gotta flash those CrystalDiskMark numbers I guess.

 

Not worried! I find all this very exciting, and perhaps I'll have my new MSI notebook before Christmas. Wait until you see the performance of my Intel 9-Series, next-gen NVidia GPU, -=$tr|k3r=- Dragon XTREME Edition GT72. I'll be happy to run those benchmarks for ya Cloudfire.

Everybody is sure to want one, but just like the LOTTO, ya gotta pay to play, and ya gotta play to win!

 

is the gpu soldered as well?

 

Nope!.....

 

Before xmas? But these are scheduled for release in July?

 

I predict late Q4 to early Q1 of 2015. (fingers crossed)

 

Talking about the models with the next-gen specs?

 

Performance worse? I thought the speed is quadrupled since it's 4 drives in RAID0?

You mean failure rate is higher? Would like to know more

So you're hinting at a Dragon Edition release before XMas eh? It will sure be great but the cost is too much for the special edition of the GT72. I thought you plan to wait for the 20nm Maxwell?

 

It is 4710HQ, and we've corrected the typographical error.
Thanks for pointing it out.

 

Yep, and this go-round, you'll want the 17", won't you?

LOL, yep, that's what I am hinting at, and waiting for....... a shiny new Intel 9-Series chipset, 20nm Maxwell, Intel XTREME, Dragon -=$tr|k3r=- Edition GT72. I am guessing it will retail around $3,999.00. and hopefully, the elves will have it ready in time for Santa's sleigh!

It never hurts to dream, and it's more fun to be optimistic.

 

I'll wait for models with more powerful processors. i7 4710HQ not weak, but GT60/70 installed i7 4810HQ, they are much more powerful replacements. And to buy a brand new laptop with powerful graphics, and i7 4710HQ which then do not change it, no thanks. I want Met stock performance processor for at least 3 years.

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4810 vs 4710 - 10% difference; nice but I wouldn't frolic too much about it. I'm accustomed to 30 - 50% improvement when changing hardware

 

With soldered processors owners of NEWer laptop will be in a situation where so called OLDer notebooks may be upgraded to a much higher performance. Kinda abnormal, right?
BTW, just out of curious tried to find ES unlocked Haswell CPU. Found it on Taobao for really cheap price so it's possible to have more powerfull laptop for the same or even lesser price at the end.

 

So I'm guessing the first batch will have Kepler based GPU's with Maxwell 880M GTX/980M much later?
Not worth it to me if they are Kepler based since I already have a 780M in my GT60, really need Maxwell's top card to make it worth my while.

 

I`m glad you guys are proactive and keeping an eye on things like this
So I guess they are sticking with soldered CPUs for now?
Not that I would mind since the 4710HQ is more than enough power for GTX 880M anyway.

Well failure rate is one thing.
Another is that the more drives you put in a RAID0 system, the more latency you will have. Single drive are the best, 2 in Raid0 is better, 3 or 4, you will start to notice the latency in everyday tasks. You are right that the sequential performance is much faster with 4 drives in Raid0, but sequential read and write are very rarely used. Most of the time it is 4K, 64K, 128K etc, tons of small files, the SSD have to deal with. That is the important stuff and those does not increase with more drives in Raid0.

The best thing you can do is buy one of the SSDs that come with RAM usage incorporated in to a system. Like Samsung 850 Pro where you have RAPID that can use up to 4GB of system memory and speed up things. Latency will be almost non exisitent and everything happens automatically.
There is one thing that is better though, and that is the upcoming PCIe SSDs (M2) which will be leaps better than SSDs out today. But the notebook got to have 9 series chipset from Intel (HM97 or QM97) to be able to use these SSDs as a bootable drive. I am hoping GT72 have this because that will make sure its future proof

Looking forward to that user review Striker. Maxwell itself will be pretty exciting

 

Hmmmmm, per MSI, it seems pricing and pre-order offers were not to be announce until 7/18. As such, Ken has complied and taken down his GT72 web pages...... but it looks like some other resellers are holding out until they get a final warning. Some resellers just don't play as nice or fair..... true colors revealed, LOL!