Want to ask about Eurocom Tornado F5

having only 3 usb ports on the right side is a joke though lol

also dp 1.2 and hdmi 1.4, clevos already go to 1.3 and 2.0

 

But i think fan on GT series very effective than fan on P775DM2 and P870DM2-3, why clevo not use those fan for their lappy? It insane

 

Disagree lol. Right now the MSI 16L13 has none of the Clevo issues in the equivalent system. But I'm obviously biased.

 

It's really not a big issue as I lean on TS to set my multipliers for the four built in profiles more than I need working bios multipliers. I appreciate you reaching back out to us!

 

MSIs GT series is designed for a quieter experience.. if you compare the Clevo P650RS they traded a slightly thinner body for smaller fans. Just depends on what you can deal with.. thicker body or louder higher pitched fans.

 

? Where did you get that info on the MSI? Yes only 3 USB 3.0 ports on the right side. But the unit has Thunderbolt 3.0 and HDMI 2.0 as well, nothing less.

 

Three USB ports is OK. It would be nice to have one on the left and one in back, but I seldom use more than two at once and if you need more than three it would be better to use a powered USB hub and only one port on the laptop instead. If there is a compromise to be made, that's a better place to compromise than the CPU. Extra USB ports certainly can't make up for being saddled with BGA filth.

 

I use the USB-C on the back just fine right now Just use a Type-C to Type-A connector and bam, another usb port (out of the way even). I have a wireless headset dongle I use in the rear because otherwise it'd have been in the way of my mouse hand.

 

Add to that, it's a cheaper way to get running now, and have $90 more toward upgrading to the 7700k later

@Diversion does the svet BIOS have the ability to disable Hyperthreading?

The BIOS option would allow us to use a 6700k / 7700k as a 6600k / 7600k and disable HT for reduced temps and higher OC on 90% of games that don't use more than 4 cores.

 

Yes and so did Stock bios.

 

Awesome, thanks!!

 

Is there a full fan profile short cut on this model, like Fn 1 on Clevos.

 

Yep. Max fans has it's own dedicated button near the power button.

 

New images were added to the F5 Tornado product page including this one. I guess the guys over at Eurocom really like this particular model too

 

That's just too funny. Horrible photography and all, gotta love it.

 

Nice. Refreshing to see that this laptop model does not look like a flashy gaming book for kids

 

I have been in communication with Eurocom and they are going to be sending me a Tornado F5 for closer examination and stress testing. So, this should be fun. I'm looking forward to having a closer look at this little workhorse.

 

How good, can you ask them if there might be a 17 incher in the future.

 

Humh i dont think it a deal, i see the quality of chassis MSI have better and the cooling system they do really well. Iam using P870DM but i see the GT series of MSI and just think wow i should save money for get 1 the only thing i dont like is BGA CPU xD

 

Yeah, I hear you, bro. Some things are unforgivable and BGA filth is one of them.

 

Mr. Fox iam just broke some tiny stuff on my gtx 980 is it have any problem

 

Test the GPU to find out if it still works. If that is a chip on the corner of the die it may be ruined. Only way to know is test it.

 

everything run smoothly now, i just scare it will have a problem in future . Can i ask what is that?

 

You should be okay. The package itself is pretty sturdy unless you hammer it with something heavy
That is a small dent in the external shell. The transistors themselves are protected and are located deeper in the chip, so as to prevent any external influence (humidity, sunlight, dust etc.)

 

Iam really comfort now when see you said haha xD, the thermal factory very bad i remove the thermal stuck with black cover around the chip very painful =.=

 

I would not have recommended removing the black plastic shroud. That is there for good reasons. Those small surface mounted components can be easily damaged. You might want to cut some small strips of electrical tape to cover them up. The strips only need to be wide enough to fill the space between the die and the frame around the outside. Never use anything electrically conductive for paste with those circuits exposed. Also be very careful cleaning old thermal paste as you don't want to knock one of them off by accident.

 

i used ic diamond so is it damage anything :-??

 

I have been using IC Diamond for years. Good stuff. Everything should be fine.

 

thanks bro very useful information

 

Hi all, where to get the bios unlock mod?
I can not find for Eurocom Tornado F5.

 

It's not available to the public for download.

 

Here's an interesting review comparing the performance of 980M to 1070 mobile with the Eurocom Tornado F5 highlighted.

Eurocom Tornado F5 - Notebook GPU Battle - GTX 1070 vs. GTX 980M | Hardware Canucks

 

Well, maybe someone from the guru will share the BIOS for a Tornado F5?

 

Very interesting! Finally... someone put in the effort of keeping the CPU the same, while swapping the out the notebook GPU in order to keep comparisons truly "apples to apples." Although this isn't at all a Eurocom Tornado F5 review (he was just using it for the ability to swap GPUs), it's still nice to finally be able to have solid numbers comparing the 980M and the 1070.

It's also interesting that, with the exception of a few scenarios, the gaming performance is fairly close across all GTX 1070 notebook models. It's probably indicative that most games are not very CPU-bound yet. I wish this review had come out a week later, and included Battlefield 1, which is supposed to be extremely heavy on the CPU...

 

You're not getting the BIOS from us.

1. Svet has worked hard on his custom BIOS tools, and he has explicitly asked us not to spread his files around. Pay the man for his work. It's not terribly expensive, and in fact probably under-priced.
2. The BIOS files are specific to each notebook, since it's a modification of a BIOS dump. If you try to flash your notebook using one of our modded BIOS, you will probably brick your notebook.

You'll have to talk to Svet over at the MSI forums directly to unlock your BIOS.

 

Even if you don't brick your machine, respecting the wishes of talented firmware modders and contributing financially to their endeavors is just the right thing to do. Taking the work of guys like @Prema, @svl7 or Svet without offering something decent in return for it and redistributing it to others is unethical. You will also find a no tolerance view of that among the best members of this community and Tech|Inferno.

No, it is not a Tornado F5 review, but it's great that they used a competent laptop instead of a BGA turdbook. I think it is a positive statement that they selected it, if nothing else.

Indeed, most games do not require a powerful CPU. For those that do, having a more competent CPU shows. The importance of having an excellent socketed desktop K series CPU in a notebook goes far beyond the gaming niche. Machines designed primarily for gaming can actually be pretty darned pathetic products other than the GPU. There is also the matter of principle... embracing BGA filth "just because" is a cancer that has adversely affected all of us, including those that have no idea they are getting screwed.

 

Any work must be paid, I agree.

 

Well Clevo is the only manufacturer without BGA turd or the least of it, but what beats me about the pricing of the Tornado F5 specs is that the 980m is more expensive than the 1060. Is it the Vram that makes a 980 more expensive or what? I thought a 980 is roughly on par with a 1060 with the 1060 performing better.

 

just as a side note, one of the more difficult decisions to make insofar as purchasing this Eurocom Tornado F5, is the issue of purchasing it with installed RAM. since the 2 (top-side) primary RAM Slots are so very difficult to get to on this particular model (requires some disassembly of chassis), one must make the correct choice when purchasing. must take into consideration the brand of RAM, as well as the speed (2133 vs 2400), as well as the capacity. unfortunately, one is limited to only Micron brand RAM (no choice for Kingston HyperX etc) when ordering from Eurocom, and ....correct me if I am wrong, their RAM prices seem (unfortunately) quite expensive.

 

Nope. Eurocom installs the 8gb standard ram config with the single dimm in the bottom slot. I specifically put this in my request for build options when ordering just in case. However others did not do this and they still install the ram into the very easy to access bottom slots. I immediately removed this standard 8gb 2400mhz dimm and installed my own HyperX 2400mhz 16gb kit.

 

your point is well taken, however the reason the RAM situation (when ordering from Eurocom) becomes something of a dilemma for some of us who might plan on maximizing the RAM and using this as a workstation (instead of gaming primarily) is that those top-side slots would be the first slots I would prefer to be filled by Eurocom (so that one could purchase additional RAM and install to the bottom-side slots later on). this would allow those of us who prefer not to disassemble/reassemble the chassis (not to mention having to re-paste) the option to have max RAM. sadly, the only option for those of us with plans to use this as a workstation with max RAM, is to purchase the RAM that is offered from Eurocom (Micron), and for the prices / configs that they offer it (hopefully this might change, and perhaps they will maybe also offer HyperX possibly). would be unfortunate if these upper top-side RAM slots were somewhat un-usable for some of us, maybe that will change. hopefully the above might give you better insight / understanding into the dilemma of which I made mention, as a few of us need the max RAM to run highly intensive engineering / scientific applications. Nevertheless, thanks for your reply

 

Can you run Windows 7 Home Premium on the Tornado F5?

 

We have some new pics of Tornado F5 coming soon ... http://www.eurocom.com/ec/data/groups/158.jpg
Guys let me know if you like them.

 

Yes, You Can! We support Win 10, 8.1 and 7. We will post drivers on our website for Win 7 and 8 this week.

 

That link isn't working for me...

Can you guys also pretty please post the drivers for Sound Blaster Cinema 3 and Silent Option ? These are on the driver disk that comes with the laptop, but not on the website... Since the Tornado F5 is not equipped an optical drive, this means users have to load the disk on another computer, extract the drivers, and then transfer it back to the Tornado.

 

The link seems to be bad. It brings up a web page full of ASCI text.

That would be good.

 

Okay, I hope they don't mind, but I uploaded it here so we can see:

 

Wow, that looks very nice. Thanks.

 

This is probably the cheapest laptop I can get without an OS preinstalled that's not a BGA Turdbook. I have another question for the Eurocom rep. I'm not trying to be rude, but why is the 980m priced higher than the 1060 preconfigured when the 1060 performs the same as a desktop 980? I would get a 980M with it if it was cheaper than the 1060 for how it has worse performance than it.

 

The 980M was a top-end GPU from last gen. This chip was expensive to fabricate, and expensive for notebook manufacturers to buy. Although the GTX 1060 outperforms it today, it doesn't change how much it cost them to buy a few months ago. My guess is if they lowered the price of the 980M below that of the GTX 1060, they would lose quite a bit of money.

As a consumer though, you don't have to worry about it. Just don't buy the 980M, it's really not good value anymore.