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    Intel 7260?

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by Aeny, Apr 19, 2013.

  1. Apoxxx

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    Do you know how asus operates in regards to white listing?
     
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    There is not white-listing on Asus notebooks as far as I know.
     
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    Ugh... I'm literally pulling my hair out because I can't seem to get mine past even 200Mbps! I just bought both Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 (tried 17.0.6, 17.1.0, and 17.13.0.9 drivers) and Asus RT-AC87U (with Merlin Firmware installed) - running on Windows 7 64-bit / Dell XPS L502X. I came from Killer Wireless-N 1202 and Asus RT-N66R and I was getting past 200Mbps. Can anyone please help me figure out what's going on? Why am I not getting better speed? :( I'm even considering just returning both items I purchased and go back to Wireless-N. Please help!!!
     
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    My theory is that it might be Windows 7 related. People who have such an issue (myself included) are always Windows 7 users. I've never seen this happen to anyone with Windows 8.

    It's either the driver for Win 7 or test is conducted using SAMBA and Windows 7 has an older and slower version of SMB.
     
  5. Apoxxx

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    You probably can't. This card is notorious for problems like this, evident by this 80+ pages thread, plus thousands of other posts around the web.
     
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    Still works perfectly on mine. I'm getting 20 MB/s - 22 MB/s transfer rates on 5 GHz 802.11n on the same room as the router. I get 5 MB/s on the farthest range at my location (2 bars).
     
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    Which band are you using?

    The 2.4ghz band will yield low results for some users.

    AC is a 5ghz technology so the AC-7260 should perform best on it.
     
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    FWIW, I am having zero problems with my 7260. And, I am sorry to hear you are having problems.

    If waking the computer from sleep is your issue, have you considered resetting the power management so that your computer does NOT go to sleep.

    My computer boots in less than 15 sec, and it shuts down even faster. As a result, I guess I don't see the need to allow my computer to "sleep." It made a lot more sense in the days were computer boot times were 45 seconds plus.
     
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    I reviewed the vast majority of those 80 pages. The complaints boiled down to lack of win 7 drivers, inability to reach max speeds, or disconnects following sleep/wake issues. But, I haven't seen anyone else who could not connect to the internet at all using the 7260? Was this an exaggeration? And, if not, what did you do to rectify the issue?.

    Given your prior statement about inability to connect with the 7260 in an MSI computer as well as inability to connect with the 7260 in the g751, I will simply assume you weren't trying to connect wirelessly while connected to a lan via wire or vice versa.
     
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    No exaggeration. During first boot of windows 8 when it wants you to enter the wireless it would not connect at all. I had to skip that step completely, but luckily I was later able to connect in windows. It just gave me an early indicator that this card is just as horrible as when i tried it 6-7 months ago. I'm surprised vendors go from great cards like the 1202 to this junk? Must be the added value of advertising the laptop as wireless AC.

    I still stand by my point that this laptop is now useless for me, as a gamer. I can not play any online games without lag or being disconnected every 5min or so when connected with the onboard wifi. Using a usb adapter until I decide whether to return it or take my chance on replacing the wifi. Usb wifi is not a permanent solution whatsoever.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
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    As a gamer myself, I've had the same experience back in March when I got my P34G with the 7260. With progressive driver updates the issues became less and less noticeable and completely went away with the 17.0.6.1 drivers. Last night I was playing Titanfall over the 802.11AC connection (my router was 1 floor away from the notebook) and was getting a ping of about 20ms (ISP is Optimum with the 50/25 package). This was while Steam was downloading/installing Civilization V.

    My recommendation is this: remove ALL previous versions of the driver. This means uninstalling the Intel management app and then going to device manager and doing an uninstall on the card until you've reached the default driver that comes with Windows 8/8.1. I think the default is part of the 15.x.x.x version. Once that is all done, download ONLY THE 17.0.6.1 DRIVER from Intel and install that.

    Good luck.
     
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    Im also using 17.13.2.2, just remember to disable U-APSD again. it keeps all of my setting except that one :( did anyone verify any performance increases when enabling the 'throughput booster' setting? are there any Killer N1525 AC for sale in the UK yet?
     
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    With my Netgear R7000 router paired with the AC-7260 cards I get the same theoretical link speeds with U-APSD enabled or disabled.
     
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    How's 17.13.2.2 going?? Worth changing over from 17.0.6?
     
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    ill do some tests over the weekend. I've been using every single new driver update since the very first and have witnessed the slow and steady improvements. ever driver since 17.0.6 has been great. i'm using the 7260AC in a samsung laptop i upgraded my self (win 8.1). its definetly the best wireless card i've ever used, and it has made me change my priorities when looking for laptops for friends to always check out what wifi card it uses. it puts any realtek wifi card to shame for only a £20 upgrade.
     
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    Put the MSI GT780DX with AC-7260 in sleep mode for a few hours had no issue with disconnects or no connection.

    Performance is on par with 17.0.6
     

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    installed version 17.13.2.2 and been running it now for a couple of days and have to say it is the best driver yet -- may finally have sorted all of the bugs out

    haven't done any modifications to the profile at all and the connection speed has been steady and much better than past drivers -- so no tweaking and still better than any previous version
     
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    So U-APSD has been "fixed" in 17.13.2.2? Used to give lag spikes when gaming on wifi.
     
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    I got N-7260 and the "U-APSD enbaled" gave me 1/2 wifi speed so I have to disable it.
    After updated to 17.0.2.5 (couple months ago) I got full speed now even with U-APSD enbaled so i think v17.xx definitely fixed that.

    I am still looking for information about "white list" of AC 7260 regarding my Lenovo U530, I want to upgrade to the AC, I am wondering will this work on my Lenovo? Amazon.com: Intel Network 7260.HMWG WiFi Wireless-AC 7260 H/T Dual Band 2x2 AC+Bluetooth HMC: Computers & Accessories

    edit: Never mind I found this post on Lenovo forum and I think I will be giving it a try (basically you should buy a card that made specifically for Lenovo with part#: 04W3814)
    https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaPa...-802-11ac/m-p/1800832/highlight/false#M139429
     
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    Hi all i got a brand new Asus G751JY with intel 7260

    I ve got an airport extreme, and i got between 40MB/S up to 70MB/s with my macbook pro

    With inter 7260, i'm only at 15 MB/s, and it was after changing channel 5Ghz to find the best one, and alos disable UAPSD. I use 17.13 last driver.

    What do i have to do to have 40MB/s like with my macbook pro ?

    Thanks in advance
     
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    Hi all,
    So that's the story, I've installed the Intel Dual band 7260 AC on an Asus S200E (X202), everything works great on auto detection. (Win8.1, Update,64bit).
    I'm connected to a TP-Link W8961ND (300 Dual N) and the wifi is on N.
    I have 300mbps siting near to the Modem/Router and almost this in the same floor, two (02) floors down I'm at 20mbps.
    The driver is PROSet 17.1.14.
    The connection is very stable. No problem from sleep stat exit (Asus InstantOn : Enabled).
    A good deal untill now.
    Next move: A more powerfull Modem/Router, and a WiDi adapter.
    By the way: any one knows if the Miracast adapters can do the wirless mirroring since it relies on WiFi Direct and the Intel 7260 AC is WiFi direct compatible ?
     
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    Welcome to the forum

    You should also try driver v17.13.2.2;it's working very well for me in a desktop AC-7260 and an AC-7260 in a 3 year old MSI GT780DX.

    Intel PROSet/Wireless WiFi Software Version 17.13.2.2 WHQL

    I highly recommend a Netgear R7000 router if you have the cash to spend.

    I have 11 devices, 4 smartphones,1 desktop,2 notebooks,2 tablets and 2 wireless laser printers connected to my R7000.

    Going through the floors will continue to hinder connection speeds much more than sheet rock walls will on the same floor as the router.
     
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    hi everyone,

    today I bought this "famous" card :D intel 7260 ... just to change the old one Realtek RTL8723AE which had a very poor performance.
    my laptop is MSI GX70 and my router is Tp-link wdr3600.
    my first issue is that i cannot install the Bluetooth driver..
    the second issue is that i get very good performance by only disabling the uapsd option. (17.13.2.2 drv installed)

    any ideas ?

    LE: lately looks like the bluetooth is ok, from nowhere, after a restart it works good.
     
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    I get good performance inly with uapsd disabled as well although I don't really see it as a problem.
    I've tested multiple power-saving features in Wi-Fi cards and none of those ever worked properly, these either cause server performance issues and prolong battery life somewhat or don't work at all.
     
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    Intel Wireless ProSet 17.13.2.2 is Official dated 12/09/2014

    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=24521

    EDIT:so far so good on 2 mini PCIe AC7260 and an M.2 AC-7265NGW

    No disconnects or Sleep Mode issues.

    File transfer speeds across my home network and thoughput is about the same as with 17.13.2.2

    I have driver and Admin tools installed(full set)
     
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    Do you guys actually install the full ProSet suite or just drivers?
     
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    I go for the drivers only. I never use the rest and it doesn't affect performance either way so I consider it bloat.
     
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    Grr. I thought disabling U-APSD was my savior, but got bumped twice last night from a gaming session for ping spikes... :mad:
     
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    My 7260 has issues on my AC band.. Lol. My ac7265 is fine, quite troublesome. I'll try the suggestion above see if that works, what driver you on HTWingNut?
     
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    It is just so sad that Intel releases such a product laden with issues and doesn't care at all. Thankfully plenty of good people who were screwed over by Intel have been able to pretty much fix this. In the future I think I'm going to stay completely away from Intel wireless cards. They are the most widely known and available, but not the best.
     
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    intel does have its problems, but there is hardly any competition. None care about pc anymore!
     
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    That never worked for me with the Intel AC cards. It has to do with a setting in the the card itself, nothing that a software app can fix.
     
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    No need to do any tweaks on mine. It works the way it should and no lag spikes whatsoever.
     
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    Well, one of the things WLAN Optimizer does is the registry edit you mentioned here:

    It's a Windows setting, not a wireless card setting.

    With my AC 7260 and other Intel wireless cards connected to a TP-LINK Archer C7 V2 router, I don't get ping spikes while gaming as long as I'm using WLAN Optimizer. I haven't disabled UAPSD or touched any of the other wireless settings.
     
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    Yes, but it's a setting specific to that card. In any case it seems to work great now. Why Intel doesn't make it work out of the box I will never know.
     
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    That isn't true at all. There are Broadcom and Qualcomm-Atheros, whose products are every bit as good and in some cases superior to those of Intel. When it comes to wireless networking, Intel only has the upper hand in marketing.
     
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    Well not exactly. The "ScanWhenAssociated" registry key is present for all Intel wireless cards except the AC 7260. If you want to set it to 0 (disabled) on the AC 7260, you need to manually create the key yourself, as it defaults to 1 (enabled).

    Anyway, one of the great things about WLAN Optimizer is that you don't have to manually make changes in the registry as it does all of the above for you.

    As for why Intel doesn't have it set to 0 out-of-the-box, well that would completely disable roaming. According go Intel, setting roaming aggressiveness to lowest works too:

    But that's BS as the ping spikes still happen. You have to change "ScanWhenAssociated" to 0.

    Other brands of wireless cards have a menu option to disable roaming altogether instead of just setting roaming aggressiveness to lowest, but Intel ones do not.
     
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    When broadcom and atheros option cost twice as much and hardly available. It not just marketing. Intel wifi driver and software is way ahead as well.

    Sent from my 306SH
     
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    I've had numerous wireless cards over the years from Intel,Realtek and Killer.

    I've had the good fortune to have used 6 AC wireless cards in my PCs,3 mini pcie AC-7260HMW,an M.2 AC-7260NGW,an M.2 AC-7265NGW and an M.2 Killer N1525.

    For me the worst was the M.2 Intel AC-7260NGW that was the stock wireless card in an MSI GS60.It had major disconnect and Sleep Mode issues with all driver versions.The M.2 AC-7265NGW works without the issues in the same notebook with the newest 17.13.2.2 driver working best.

    I was fortunate to get an M.2 Killer N1525 and try it in the same GS60 notebook with driver 1.1.48.1376.This card is by far the best performer in my GS60.

    I got a mini pcie AC-7260HMW from GenTech before there were any drivers available for it.It has be a very good WiFi performer with most drivers up to and including 17.0.6 and the newest 17.13.2.2.The Bluetooth pairing on all my Intel cards has been less than stellar.

    A Desktop Intel AC-7260HMW performs the same as the original that's residing in a 3+ year old MSI GT780DX.

    Connected to my Netgear R7000 router are 4 Android smartphones,2 Android tablets,2 Samsung wireless laser printers on the 2.4ghz band while there's 2 Windows notebooks plus a desktop on the 5ghz band.Sometimes the 802.11ac Android devices are also on the 5ghz band.

    Ping test from desktop with AC-7260 about the same as from the GT780DX notebook with an AC-7260

    I no longer do any online gaming but do a lot of video streaming.

    The AC cards at 866.7 Mbps connected to the R7000 router can't be beat by N cards.The Killer is always rock solid at 866.7 Mbps while the Intel AC cards fluctuate from 520 Mbps to 866.7 Mbps.
     

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    When comparing their best available hardware, Intel has always been at least a generation behind. Intel doesn't produce any 3x3 AC cards, although drivers for those are still only for Linux. Also Intel never figured out how to get good 5Ghz performance for years until the 7260 came out.

    Availability is an issue with Broadcom and Qualcomm-Atheros wireless cards. On one hand, there is little information out there about them, and on the other hand they do not package and sell individual wireless cards for consumers. On top of that, wireless cards from them are almost never ever sold branded from them. They certainly don't cost twice as much as Intel cards though, at least if you know what you are looking for. This really has nothing to do with what is better though. Intel being a household name, selling individual wireless cards, always being sold under its own name, and almost always being offered as a "premium" product when configuring a laptop, goes a long way to spread the "Intel is best" myth. Being more available and more commonly known about doesn't make Intel cards superior.

    After reading this thread, how can you talk about Intel's drivers and software being so great? I haven't used Intel's software for years since after trying it it actually made things worse, and their drivers are clearly prone to issues. That is not to say that the Bigfoot Wireless software wasn't/isn't completely gimmicky or that Broadcom or Qualcomm-Atheros drivers are perfect, but after the 7260 fiasco, it is impossible to say that Intel is anything other than currently behind on this issue. There are also no OSX drivers for Intel cards, but that really isn't anything bad about Intel, just that Apple does not want to use their wireless products. In addition to this, for power users, Intel wireless cards are useless. Whether it is the drivers or the hardware itself, I'm not sure, but Intel cards are severely restricted on what they can do. It is fine for 99.9% of people, but for someone who wants to hack a wifi, do other silly things, or does serious professional work with wifi networks, Intel cards cannot be used.

    Lastly, Intel only producers consumer laptop wireless adapters. That is it. Broadcom and Qualcomm-Atheros produce a whole lot more. You have never used a wireless router with an Intel chipset. You have never used a cellphone with an Intel chipset either. In the world of wireless communication, Intel is a small fish. Broadcom and Qualcomm-Atheros are not the only other producers of wireless chipsets, but the only other ones I know of that make the swappable kind we see in laptops. (For example, the Microsoft Surface line uses Marvell chips for wifi, but those are soldered to the board.) When it comes to wireless cards, it isn't at all like Intel vs AMD although at first glance it might seem that way.
     
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    I've had Broadcom cards, but they're the last place in terms of range for laptop (mini-pcie) and mobile devices. They're very stable though and has consistent pings, but not the fastest.

    Intel just dominates in range and speed. I've never seen a 2x2 Broadcom nor Atheros 802.11n card get a throughput of over 220 Mbps out of 300 Mbps connection except for Intel cards (e.g. Intel 6205). Signal strength is superb too where Intel cards still get 5 bars while Broadcom cards only get 3 at moderate range.
     
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    Intel have a management software for wifi, ability to pick preferred band, force band, widi. What does atheros, broadcom have? Yes.they make network chip for router, phone,soc but that mean nothing for a pc wifi adapter.

    Wifi is a consumer product, and Intel make consumer wifi product.~~~

    True that 7260 is plagued with driver issue, how about stick to a 6200 6300.

    Sent from my 306SH
     
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    What are the cards you are talking about? The Intel 5000 and 6000 series are extremely good at 2.4Ghz.

    I'm downloading the Intel Proset wireless software. I haven't used it in ages. I don't see what it can possibly offer, but I'm giving it another shot. But anyway, aren't those things you mention all an aspect of how you set up your router? I hope you don't think that Intel is better because they make some entirely redundant software.

    Intel's cards just aren't at the top though. Do they offer any products with 802.11AD? How about a 3x3 802.11AC card? Everyone used to talk about how the 5Ghz band sucked and didn't have any range, and a long time ago they were right. But Intel's competitors figured it out several generations of wireless card before Intel did with the 7260. Intel's wireless cards get all the limelight, but on the hardware front, they are the ones playing catch-up. It also doesn't help that most people's experience with other brand cards comes from bottom of the barrel wireless cards.

    They offer poor 5Ghz performance compared to the 7260AC, 7260AN, or Broadcom and Atheros cards. But don't get me wrong. I am currently using an Intel 5300 as I type this. It offers among the best 2.4Ghz performance of any cards ever made. I also don't think that the 7260's issues are only with the software. No matter what I do, I cannot get the same kind of 2.4Ghz performance out of it that I can with the 5300 or 6300. I think this is because of the 3 vs 2 antennae.
     
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    i wish intel did change logs...
     
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    Broadcom BCM4xxxx cards and even the killer 1202. Intel's 5xxx, 6xxx, 7260 are faster in my experience on both bands.
     
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    Intel ProSet Wireless Software 17.13.11.5 is now Official on Intel Downloads

    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=24575


    This download is valid for the product(s) listed below.

    Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6205
    Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6205 For Desktop
    Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6235
    Intel® Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300
    Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 105
    Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 135
    Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 2230
    Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 3160
    Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260
    Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 for Desktop
    Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265
    Intel® Dual Band Wireless-N 7260
    Intel® Dual Band Wireless-N 7265
    Intel® PROSet/Wireless Software
    Intel® Wireless-N 7260
    Intel® Wireless-N 7265
     
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