Intel 7260?

Does anyone have any feedback on this driver on their AC 7260?

 

I've been using it since it unofficially came out with no issues I could see.

 

Same here.

 

This is a really indepth article about the lack of 160MHz channels in Wave 2 AC routers and clients:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/160-mhz-channels-ieee-80211ac-maury-wood

The take aways are :

• Broadcom, MediaTek, and potentially Celeno, Intel, Marvell and Realtek will announce W2 radios in the first half of 2015
• The current process nodes is too large to fit all of the required modulus

Also the 17.13.11.5 driver is great on my laptop: 10/10 would recommend. i wish their bluetooth drivers would improve...

 

I can't seem to get VHT mode to work on the 17.x drivers, only works fine with 16.x.

The card is strangely 'stuck' at 866.7mpbs link speed with full 5 bars signal quality in network connection status, internet is shown as connected but nothing loads. On 16.x drivers though, I only get 526.5mbps with 4/5 bars, however the network works normally.

Could it be some bug in the 17.x drivers that causes it to misreport the signal quality as maximum when it's not, causing it to use too high a link speed, thereby failing completely?

 

I've not experienced the issue you are having with the driver

Intel AC-7260>Windows 8.1 Pro x64>MSI GT780DX

 

After hours of troubleshooting, I've finally solved the problem. Turns out it was my 5dbi ebay antennas that were causing all the issues, swapped them out with an older router's 2 dbi and everything works great now.

Strange though, those same very 5db antennas worked ok with my previous Intel 6300.

 

on to the next one! The intel wireless selection site has been updated with a new product

The Intel® Tri-Band Wireless-AC 17265

Intel® Tri-Band Wireless-AC 17265

• high-speed 60 GHz WiGig 802.11ad wireless
• combined with a ac-7265
  
  [*] 867 Mbps 2x2 802.11ac
  [*] Bluetooth 4.1
  [*] Board Form Factor: M.2 3030​

also the intel ac-7260 has been totally discontinued and the more efficient ac-7265 has taken its place in the line up.

 

Doesn't look like an easy upgrade

Additional info

https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/us/en/wireless-products/wireless-docking.html

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...ts/product-briefs/wigig-sink-w13100-brief.pdf

EDIT:it's the M.2 AC-7260NGW that has been discontinued

 

yeah i'd agree that the upgrade path for laptop with PCI-e has now ended. wireless AD isnt supported enough yet to even bother trying. i'm waiting for a MU-MIMO card from any vendor..

 

Streaming video with low latency is probably one of the main pros to this product.

Physical media gave way to digitally delivered and now on to high speed low latency streaming.

Latency Checker;
http://www.thesycon.de/dpclat/dpclat.exe

 

Ordered one of these last night as a replacement for the Qualcomm AR9485 that has some minor range issues. Then I came across this thread. Don't need the AC bands yet but I figured I might as well get a card that supports it now, do want the BT. Putting this in a Asus Q301LA. It sounds like the card might be trouble, should I try and cancel my order?

 

i'd stick with it, the newer drivers iron out most of the issues and theres lots of info on here about how to overcome the problems. mine works fine and its one of the cheapest, best upgrades i've ever done.

 

Mine works fine with the only exception being 40MHz on the 2.4GHz frequency, network connects but doesn't seem to be able to transmit anything. 2.4GHz using 20MHz works fine, along with 5GHz.

Btw has anyone tried salvaging a Azurewave AW-CE123H from an ASUS Wi-Fi GO! card? Those seem a lot cheaper than buying just the card itself on eBay.


Edit: There seems to be a 3x3 mpcie card from Broadcom already?!
http://www.tonymacx86.com/network/104850-guide-airport-pcie-half-mini-v2-77.html

 

sweet! i've been waiting for something like this. for those interested, broadcom has allowed other OEMs to make cards using their chip.

• Broadcom BCM94360HMB
• Foxconn T77H543.00
• Lite-On WCBN802B
• AzureWave AW-CB160H

i can't find any places to buy any of them tho. there are a lot of PCI-e adaptor for the apple cards on amazon:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-P...TF8&qid=1421167501&sr=8-2&keywords=hackintosh

http://www.amazon.co.uk/802-11AC-BC...F8&qid=1421167501&sr=8-12&keywords=hackintosh

 

Be advised that the connectors on the BCM94360HMB mini pcie wireless card that's inside the ASUS WIFI GO 3T3R AW-CB160H are MHF4 that are much smaller than those on present mini pcie cards

The MHF4 type are the same as used on the new M.2 type wireless cards and antennas are not readily available

Asus WiFi Go 3T3R AW CB160H for Asus X99 Deluxe Rampage V Extreme Original U1 | eBay

 

Amazon might not be the best place to look for rarer stuff. Apple BCM94360CD 802 11AC BT4 0 Card BCM94360CD TO PCI E Express Adapter Card | eBay
The BCM94360CD seems to be a 3 antenna AC1300 card, 4th antenna probably for bluetooth? . Intel better hurry up.

 

If your notebook has a mini pcie wireless card slot and wish to use the BCM94360HMB mini pcie wireless card that's inside the ASUS WIFI GO 3T3R AW-CB160H then you will need 3 of these antennas in the link below to replace the ones presently in your notebook that have U.FL connectors.

The wires are short so you will need a space behind the bezel where they will be as far apart as possible.

MHF4 Laptop Embedded Dualband Antenna FOR Wifi Wlan Bluetooth NGFF M 2 Module | eBay

 

I don't think Intel will release any more PCI-e wifi cards, i think they will be releasing M.2 cards only from now on. The fact that other OEMs are producing 3x3 ac cards means that one of them will see the gap in the market and produce one with decent antenna connectors. Heres hoping for MU-MIMO, although does it make sense with a 3x3 config, would 1x1 or 2x2 be better suited for that?

I'd like a qualcomm atheros 3x3 ac with BT mini pci-e card, i'll have to keep my eyes open for such a device

 

Also here are some new bluetooth drivers (i think)

• 12/12 / 2014
• 17.1.1450.0402

Intel Proset/Wireless Bluetooth Software Version 17.1.1450.0402

 

My card should arrive this weekend. Will these drivers take care of the Bluetooth too or are they just wireless? Sorry I didn't read

 

"Intel Proset/Wireless >>>>>Bluetooth Software<<<<< Version 17.1.1450.0402"

its right there in the link text buddy

 

Are there any solutions for err_network_changed on thus card? I'm using old drivers (16. Something, don't have them in front of me now) because the latest driver throttles to only 3 mb/s download speed on steam, and while the work great, every couple of days they suddenly stop working and I have to just keep switching drivers until they start working again. This even happens right in the middle of online gaming, after 40 minutes straight, it randomly stops working, and I don't know why. I'm using a gigabyte p35x v3 cf5

 

Are you on the 5ghz band and pairing the wireless card with a quality 1750 or 1900 AC router?

I use channel 161 on 5ghz in settings of my Netgear R7000 router and it works well for me.

I know some others use channel 36

Post #644 in this thread has some basic setup suggestions.

I had lots of issues with the Intel AC-7260NGW(M.2) that was the stock card in my MSI GS60.

I replaced the Intel AC-7260NGW card with a Killer N1525 Wireless-AC and my issues were gone.

 

I have no idea what band I'm using but it's a wireless n router not an ac

 

That fits 2.4GHz issues although I thought these were if not solved than very limited with more recent drivers.
Intel 7260 doesn't deal very well with a lot of neighboring networks with overlapping signals.

Use inSSIDer to check which channels are occupied and by how many networks and try to change the channel you're using (that's something you do on the router) to one that is reasonably free and preferably not overlapping with any other Wi-Fi network.

It might make little sense at this point but once you install insider and look at the graph it will be pretty self-explanatory.

 

there's also Xirrus Wi-Fi Inspector instead (free). it's the same basic info,

inssider v2 doesn't work on win8.1 you need v4 which doesn't have a free version.

 

Thanks. I didn't know it doesn't work on Win 8.

 

i loved inssider for years, but now its pay to try, 20$ isn't much but why bother, there's free alternatives.

 

I agree - that's why I link to version 2, which is better than v3 and still free. I just wasn't aware that it does not work on Windows 8.

 

Hmm I have InSSIDer on my Dell Venue 8.

Its on Win 8.1 x64 and it was one of the first programs I loaded since I find little use for my Win 8 tablet.

As for the person with possible overlap issues, if your using Wireless N you can leave the 2.4ghz band alltogether and use exclusive 5ghz and it has no overlap issues.

Edit: Checked I am on v 3.1.2.1 so maybe V2 wont work but V3 does and its definiitly good enough to get the job done, not sure how it compares to V2.

 

I believe I've used it without issues in 8.1, but I'd have to verify its on that machine and I'm not misremembering.


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The FREE 3.1.2.1 version of inSSIDer works fine on Windows 8.1 x64

Just installed version 2.1.6.1394 of inSSIDer on Windows 8.1 x64 and it's running fine.

 

on mine, v2 just doesn't see my wifi adapter so it shows nothing no networks just a blank list

i have a Qualcomm Atheros AR956x Wireless Network Adapter
with the latest drivers WHQL of course

Version 3 now sees my adapter and adjacent networks. Thanks for the info guys :thumbsup:

 

New driver!

• https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=24656

Version 17.14

Its the same driver for the ac-7260 and ac-7265 but has newer PROset software and legacy drivers for all the older cards, which is nice.

 

Ok, so im looking at my wifi in the program that you suggested (but v3 bc your suggested one isnt compatable) and im not sure exactly what im supposed to do. Its 2.4 ghz (there are no 5 ghz bands at all around me, nor ac wifi), the signal is -53, channel is 2, security is wpa2-personal, and its n. The graph on the right says link score 44, 1 network cochannel, and 1 network overlapping. The problem is that every few moments when online gaming the games lag for a second and ten go back to normal, happens in tf2 and dota2. This problem comes and goes, while every couple of days the drivers that I'm using suddenly stop working for half an hour, and then start working again. I heard that packet loss might be to blame but im not sure how to check that. I couldnt find u-asp in advanced settings in device manager > wireless netwroks > 7260 > advanced, and in router settings, it only has an enable WMM checkbox, and doesnt mention the bands. However, the checkbox enable internet access qos is unchecked, should that be checked? any help would be appreciated.

I'm on the 16.5.3.6 drivers because the later ones throttle me to like 3 MB/s download vs up to 10 on the one im using. But the stutter problems affect every driver.

 

ok the co-channel is the one you want to avoid. if it shows 0 then you're in the clear. 1 or 2 there may be some overlaps but that's ok aslong its not in a strong signal (green)

-50dbm is good, anything between 0 and -70dbm is considered good. anything above -70 like -80dbm thats bad. Green means good.

For co-channels, try different channels on your router: 1, 6 or 11 are best if free. if not, try another channel in between, try to avoid overlapping.

Overlapping: depending on the strength of other wifi's around you. Overlapping is ok if the channels aren't close. it's not so bad as it doesn't stop you from using the main part of your channel.

That's why choosing 1,6 and 11 is preferable.

if they are free then choose one on your wifi router. if they are not free then sort by dbm and choose a channel that is closest to -100dbm and not same channel as other stronger wifi's. That is the weakest wifi around from yours and should be fine for gaming.

That said, wired is best for gaming especially if you're the local server.

 

The cochannel is the signal from a printer we own, and it is -27, but since its a printer, is that ok? and will changing the channel impact performance or connections in any way? the overlapping is at -85, and for some reason our wired is slower than wifi (at least on the desktop mac, which is the only one that has an ethernet, never tried it on my laptop)

edit

i tried a program on the internet and it said 0% packet loss but im not sure if it is accurate

 

@epicninja

How far are you from the router? -50dbm might be acceptable or not depending how far are you - this number seems to indicate some distance, if that's the case than it's finr but if you get it close to the router - that is not fine at all.

U-APSD is the fourth one from the bottom in advanced driver settings (assuming your Windows version is in English).

As for inSSIDer - please post a screenshot. It's much easier to just look at where different networks are on the graph and how strong the signal is than describe it.

EDIT: I just realized that U-APSD was not available on some earlier drivers so you may not see it on v16 drivers but it's there on v17.

 

well, theres an advanced tab and a driver tab but no advanced driver tab. 4th from bottom in advanced is transmit power. im on windws 8.1 with classic shell installed
well just saw your edit so thats out.

for ss, is mac address something that should be covered up?

edit

im like 10 ft away but through a wall

edit ss

 

ok -27 is pretty strong you must be sitting near the printer, it could be impacting your wifi overall since sharing the wifi channel would be interference just like if you have 2 wifi laptops on the same router. at -27dbm it's like someone with a megaphone screaming in your ear.

Try moving the laptop and printer away from each other, in other rooms use the laptop closer to the router. While you're there, try plugging a wired network cable in your laptop and router.

try Speedtest.net by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test for testing your ping and speed.

Changing the channel on your router , if your printer is shared on your home network like that instead of direct wifi connection to it, will disconnect your printer from your home network and you will have to reconnect it using the new channel.

But if you really want to eliminate the wifi interference from it, best would be to plug the printer's usb port into your router's usb or network port, disable the wifi on your printer and use the router to share your printer with your other computers. that way there's no co-channelling.

>and for some reason our wired is slower than wifi (at least on the desktop mac, which is the only one that has an ethernet, never tried it on my laptop)

the laptop is the one you are gaming on ? so the mac is irrelevant to the gaming and wifi situation we're testing here. Let's not mix things up here. 1 thing at a time.

i can guarantee you the wired option is fastest compared to wifi. when i do big file transfer over wifi i get 12-24MB/s (2.4ghz/5ghz, 802.1ac or N, i do have 2 laptops so different cards) upload while if i do wired it goes 100MB/s and more (SSD to SSD).

The ping will be lesser aswell. and lag is death so imho game wired, then unplug to do the rest.

 

unfortunately, the wifi and the printer are in the same room, so that wouldn't work to well.

you are right about the ethernet, weird that its the opposite on the mac, however, i cant use the ethernet cable for gaming bc or the position its it

for the printer, it is connected to my wifi network via wireless direct, which i dont know what that is. it doesnt have its own wifi (i think), but it may be amplifying the original signal?

edit

so i turned it off and the network is gone, ill have to see if that helps, not entirely sure whether we used wireless direct or not so i may have to turn it back on

 

Wireless Direct means that the printer doesn't need a router not does it connect to it - it has its own SSID and any device can connect directly to the printer and use it.
You should change one thing - either the one your Wi-Fi uses or the one that the printer does (preferably the latter although I imagine it's the harder one to change).

Change the other one (whichever will it be) to channel 6.

Then try installing v17 drivers and disabling U-APSD

 

I played a bit of tf2 after turning the direct connect off and there are no more problems! thanks for all your help

edit

nvm it doesnt help, just thought it did for a second

 

That is with v16 or v17 drivers?

 

v16, but after i did what you said and switched the channel to 6 it started working. thanks

 

After updating with this new driver Device Manager still shows the older version as being installed but Control Panel>Programs and Features does show 17.14 as installed.

 

Did you turn off the printer or it's wifi ? That is the question here.

As for helping with ping, like i said, wifi won't work miracles. its still subject to interference. whether from a 2.4ghz wireless house phone or another type of interference not detected as a router. a microwave also works on the same frequency. if you can use the 5ghz band that would be better.

But play while using a wire cable, even if its for a few hours, your lag will decrease so much.

Also rebooting your modem and router might help with that fresh out of the box feeling.

 

I don't get lag normally, it's just that I had been getting random lag stutters when gaming so I had to fix it, rest of the time it works fine. We have pretty fast WiFi for an n router, I forget my exact ookla score on laptop but I get 9 MB/S download on steam. Low ping too. I'm not sure what exactly was the problem, but switching to channel 6 fixed it. We are planning on getting a good ac router sometime soon, so I will be able to go on 5ghz band with no other 5ghz WiFi near me. Speaking of which, are those really expensive 4x4 ac WiFi routers worth it in the long run? Nothing will have it for a few years probably, but future proofing, right?

 

Nope, not worth it. Top range routers used to cost about $120 but manufacturers simply added new price range with 802.11ac rather than replace the old top-of-the-range with a new one.

At this point they are selling things that make no improvement whatsoever for like $300.