Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 vs Ultimate-N 6300

Well if you looked up you would have see the mac address was whited out for whatever reason but you can blatantly see it. The second one is actually a genuine Intel card

 

I see, font and size is still off.

Second one is a Revision A00, which is an ES.

 

Awesome that's the info im looking for! I contacted the person I bought the top one from and gave him a bogus line that Ive had an Intel rep confirm them fake and he was just like "oh please sir don't spread that these are fake. I'm sure there real" lol

 

hey guys these are Genuine right?
Amazon.com: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 - Network adapter - PCI Express Half Mini Card - 802.11b, 802.11a, 802.11g, 802.11n: Electronics

 

provantage ones looks genuine and are cheaper

what about these ones ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260674907862

 

Intel Advanced-N 6200 802.11n Wireless Half Mini Card on eBay (end time 21-Nov-10 15:22:58 GMT)

Is it genuine? If not does anyone know where can I get a cheap one from UK?

 

I bought a 6200 from this seller on e-bay for 15.00 'laptop_pop'. It appears to be genuine, it looks just like the one in the picture (link above) including the plastic shell. But of course it's a 6200 not a 6300.

 

Do yourselves a favor and only buy these from actual intel distributors. There are plenty of legitimate sources online, I think even someone in this forum is one.

You won't really save much money buying these from random people on fleabay. There is way too much fraud with these cards, its become an industry into itself. Sometimes the middleman has already been duped and doesn't know he is duping you in return.

Intel will tell you to take a hike on defective ones unless you bought from a distributor as well. I speak from personal experience on that one. Try to stick with sellers in your country too, its easier to remedy any issues.

I occasionally buy computer parts that get airmailed straight out of china hot off the line because its often the only way to get a few instead of a pallet or lots that start at 100 units. Intel parts are not the kind I would ever recommend risking that method with.

ES might "work" but there can be various problems with them, some of which can be showstoppers. (e.g. linux = no worky, or reports functional to OS but has major errors in signal, etc)

 

There are two kinds of mini pci-e to pci-e cards available 3.3V and 1.5V ,Which one should i buy?

Mini PCI-E to PCI-E adapter+u.Fl(IPX) SMA cable+Antenna - eBay (item 180461000878 end time Nov-20-10 20:23:50 PST)

 

3.3v

That adapter only has screws to fit full height cards though there are holes for half height just no screws. The new intel wifi cards are half height.

You can either get an half to full adapter plate or find screws to match the holes.

 

Glad I decided to upgrade my notebook's standard wifi card to the 6200.

 

about the cards being real, can't you look up the MAC address online.

Although i'm thinking that they're probably smart enough to spoof it to say intel.

 

Hi, i just bought this off ebay a couple weeks ago. Can anyone please tell me if this is a fake 6300? Here is the link to the auction: The Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 - 633ANHMW - eBay (item 250698232941 end time Oct-06-10 03:21:37 PDT)

And here are links to hi-res pictures of it.
http://imgur.com/3puq5.jpg
http://imgur.com/bwtEi.jpg

The max i can connect to my router is 150mbs with this card. But i can connect at 300mbs with my usb dongle.

Thanks.

 

The Genuine Intel 6300's OEM come in a brown box as seen in one of the pics below. The 6200 may or may not come in the brown box however the pics below show how Genuine Intel 6200's should look...

 

Thanks babyhemi, that answers my question.

 

sorry OOT..

just wanna ask, this intel 6300 will compatible with my asus G51J-a1 ?

btw where to buy the new one n original?

 

The one I got from 'laptop_pop' was a fake, and I sent it back to him with no argument. He knows they are fake.
Aaron

 

I just bought one (6300) from DataVision INTEL WIFI LINK 6300 633AN.HMW They swear these are geuine sealed in the factory Intel box. I found a $5.00 off coupon; total including shipping came to $34.62

 

Hi guys.
I have a hp notebook, dv6700 series. I already remove the whitelist of bios...so my question is: I can buy any 6300 or i need to buy the hp version?

Thanks

 

Since you removed the whitelist you should be able to use any 6300AGN.

 

Charles, thanks for your answer.
I already buy one

 

A brown box is NOT the only way to acquire legitimate OEM cards. You think Dell or Asus gets a truckload of those boxes or do they get it in bulk packaging? Now if you get one in a sealed box like that, you can bet your patootie that it is a real OEM card and not an ES, but the real things come in more ways than that. And this is not to mention used cards that can come from another system.

 

Charles, you are right!
Since i have the whitelist removed, the card (6300AGN Retail) that i buy to "babyhemi", works at 100%

Cumps

 

So I came across this thread while trying to figure out what is wrong with my n-6300 card- it's way too slow vs. a 6200 i have been comparing it to.

I have a Sager 7130 w/ the n-6300, and my roommate has a vaio z w/ n-6200. The internals of our computers are practically identical other than that, but no matter where in the house I am, my speed test scores are 8-10mbps down, while my roomate is ALWAYS at 15+mbps w/ his 6200 card. So clearly, there's something wrong when I have the better wireless card, but am only getting 1/2 the wifi speed... Any ideas?

 

^^^^Have you tried to install the latest driver package from Intel yet? Below is the Win 7 64 package....

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19514&ProdId=3200&lang=eng
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How many bars of reception are you getting? Whats the maximum link rate in the Status box?

 

upgraded my asus's stock Atheros to one of these and wow everything is fasterrrr. Basically i was used to seeing my old toshiba connect instantly to networks as soon as i resumed from hibernation. But this atheros took at least a minute or so just to connect to a network. I upgraded it to the intel yesterday and now i get 5/5 bars instead of 3/5 on my home and school networks!

 

So, I get this XPS 17 from Dell, the latest and greatest and all the specs say that it fully supports the Intel Centrino Advanced -N 6300 card, but the machine only has two antennas. So I get one of the Dell XPS engineers on the phone and he tells me that that card is fully supported even with only two antennas connected. is he talking about? How can the card function as designed if I can only connect two antennas? Any help appreciated.

 

He is wrong, while it may work fine having only 2 antennas on a 6300, it defeats the purpose of purchasing the 6300 when you could have opted for the cheaper 6200.

To achieve the best N connection both adapter and router needs to use all 3 antennas to receive and transmit data.

Call them back and tell them you need all 3 antennas to achieve the maximum. Tell them its all in the Intel website.

 

No, I believe what the Dell tech said. I've noticed no difference between using the 6300 with two and three antennas. It needs two to operate well, no more. Of course you are not going to get to 450Mbps, but you aren't losing out on anything more than that. I really believe there is more difference between the 6300 and 6200 than the 6200 disconnecting the third antenna.

 

What router do you use? That is what might be limiting you.

? The 6200 doesnt have a third antenna

Intels MIMO technology will use third antenna for more diversity and range even if there are only 2 spatial streams available.

I use -7dbi high gain antennas on my 6300 and if i unplug one of them my link rate drops straight away. My desktop sits about 50 feet away with a wall.

EDIT:

Okay so with 1 antenna the link rate falls back to around 54-108mbps

with 2 antennas it fluctuates around 108-216mbps

 

Well if you've for sure noticed a difference, then I guess that's that. I just I haven't noticed any difference in "diversity and range" in or outside the home. But I haven't plugged it in and unplugged it while it was on and I've only used it with regular laptop wireless cables.

 

Yep, I tried installing the latest drivers, I get full signal, but it's still slow. Out of 3 laptops in my house, I am supposed to have the fastest, best wireless card (6300), yet I'm getting the slowest connection speeds.

 

Hi Guys,

I just revieved my new dell laptop that was ordered with the 6200 but it came with the 1000N, so dell sent out a tech with a replacement 6200.
When he installed the 6200 it shows up in device manager ok, but cannot find any connections, network diagnostics reports that the wireless adapter is experiencing an issue. We tried uninstalling the drivers and reinstalling them and it won't work. Laptop is in the same room as the router.
Put back in the 1000 card and it is recognised straight away and installs and finds the network.
Tech calls back today with another new 6200 thinking the first one is faulty. The second card does the same, installs but cannot find any networks. I'm running Win7 x64.

Anyone else had similar issues or does anyone have any ideas? Right now I'm back with the 1000 and running fine and I have 2 new dell 6200 cards sitting here that I can't get to work.

 

Where did you buy your 6200 from?
(I just got the N61 and hate the stock wireless card also ... it's worth ca-ca)
Was hoping I could find someone local to buy from versus online, but ....

 

Okay, now I am thinking about adding the missing 3rd antenna for the 6300 card inside my new laptop. I doubt that I would be able to route it around the frame of my monitor like the other antennas so I am thinking about just routing it along the inside of my laptop under palm rest. Maybe not the most idea solution but surely it will improve the overall performance of the card.

 

No it won't. Third antenna is meant for achieving 450mbps which would require 450mbps capable router- which I'm sure you don't have as there are only two available. flipfire tested it here- virtually no difference.

 

I agree with Downloads for the most part.

My understanding is that there is a gain with the 3rd, the system can use it to reduce load or something (I forget), but it won't make any noticable improvement.

As for routers...
The Trendnet 450 that Small Net Builder got ahold of was slower than most decent 300 routers. The D-Link (665) looked better, but there are reports of issues with it as well, especially the 5ghz band. It seems like they took a lower end router (655 anyone?) and threw in the extra radio. I'll pass.

The technology just isn't there yet. Even when it is, it will need to be a trusted brand (more-so than D-Link), with some testing behind it before I will upgrade my trusty router.

 

Is it worth upgrading a 6200N to a 6300N card? I have Dell XPS 15 laptop with the 6200 card but the 3rd antenna is there with nothing attached to it, so I can easily upgrade if it is worth it

 

It's not worth it- you'd have to upgrade your router as well and there’s nothing to upgrade to in router department. So far 450mbps routers are slower than the best or 300mbps ones so it's not an upgrade either- more of a change than an upgrade.

 

Newbie question here:
I just got a new Lenovo x201 laptop with the 6300 installed. What can I do to my overall wireless setup to best take advantage of this 6300 in my home office environment? I currently have:
-Comcast roadrunner w/comcast's basic modem
-Netgear rangemax n router

I assume I cant do anything on the Comcast side. Is that correct?
I assume I can get a better router. If true, what might any of you recommend?

Thanks!

 

Not enough data on the router to identify it- a model number would do.
It's not really the best thread for choose-a-router question so to make it quick- Netgear WNDR3700 is the best home router available ($140).
If that's too much than you should start a thread on it specifying your requirements and price-range or search through similar threads.

 

i got a DELL XPS 15 with intel 6200 wifi card (INDIA)
I want to know whether I can use 3g services from this card in INDIA
also I would like to know your comments on the card and related services we can avail from this card

 

@abhishek2807
It's a Wi-Fi-only card. Nothing to do with Wi-Max, 3G or any other technology.
You may have a 3G modem in your laptop which may enable you to use 3G services but that has nothing to do with Intel 6200.

 

Ok so i read the whole thread long ago and noticed there isn't much benefit to upgrading from a 6200 to a 6300. I had a 6200 in my T410 (sold that, have a T410s now) and it was great, should have swapped it before selling - oh well .

My question now is i have a WIFI N 1000 in my T410s and i want to go up (for 5Ghz N band, there are like 20 2.4Ghz networks around me!!) so would you say it's worth it to just get the 6300 for i think $20 more vs the 6200?

A quick check on eBay shows 6300 cards ranging from $10 - $65! Obviously some are fake but i can't even tell. Anyone know of a reputable seller?

NOTE - Gotta get the Lenovo ones. I know i could whitelist edit and all that but i rather just get those.

 

No point in buying 6300- third antenna is meant for 450mbps support. At this point there are two routers and one AP that support 450mbps none of which is very good i.e. none is faster than the fastest of 300mbps ones.

 

I just swapped the old AGN4965 in my Sony Vaio VGN-AR760U for a N6300 and also replaced the 6 month old Wifi Link 5100 in my VGN-FE21S with a N6200... I though about getting a third antenna for the FE to install N6300 in both, but since i have "only" a 300Mbit router I did not bother.

Overall the investment in new wireless hardware was a VERY GOOD MOVE!

The performance of the Intel 5100 on my Linksys WRT610N V2 <8running Dd-WRT) was no bad, but with the 6200 and 6300 I basically doubled my average throughput, increased range and all that while decreasing system load tremendously...

I was running 3 simultaneous video streams to 3 different machines from 3 different websites earlier today with all of them running smoothly... Before the upgrade the two "old" Intel cards would produce significant stuttering if both were running streams at the same time...

I also use maxiVista as a remote control and screen extension (3rd Monitor) with the Ar as server and the FE as slave. With the new setup it is absolutely usable with almost no lag, whereas the setup I had before was fine for RC but not so god for extendend desktop.

Drawbacks?

The new cards are half height mini PCI-E cards. The VGN-AR has a SMD resistor in the mini PCI-E which is slightly conflicting with the new card. I had to secure it in place with duct-tape... It bulges a little bit giving teh keyboard a slight (aprox 2mm) bulge, too.

In the VGN-FE I don't have the problem with the resistor, but I still had to secure the card with some tape because I omitted buying the extension plate" which one could use to fix it with the original retention springs...

Anyway, if you have any Intel Wifi prior to the 6200/6300, I can highly recommend an upgrade.

Only go for the N6300 if you don't mind the 50% extra cost and have 3 atennas in the machine (or are willing to wire up a 3rd antenna yourself) and if you plan to purchase a 450Mbit router in the near future... Otherwise stick with the N6200 for the exact same real life performance!

 

Thanks Downloads and hippotek, i have a T410s which has 3 antenna's already included (plus a Gobi 3G World card so 2 antenna's for that also) so that's why i was thinking to get the 6300 vs the 6200. I don't really (ever) plan to get the 450Mbps within the next 2yrs unless one falls off the back of a truck or something. 300Mbps would be more than fast enough with 1Gbps switch to the server is all i need!

 

I have very crappy signal issue with 6200 Dell OEM card. I brought this from online seller and came with sealed static bag. No issues with driver installation. everything is fine, but my connection speed is really low. sometimes it get disconnected. Try to tweek settings, but no result. BTW my router is wireless G.

BTW I never have had any issues with broadcom branded card. How to find out card is genuine 6200 and not some re-branded old model? (HW ID maybe)

 

I just saw in the WindowsSecrets newsletter that there will be new 450 Mbs routers out "in the spring and summer" that will need a Centrino N-5300 or Centrino N-6300 Wi-Fi adapter or an add-on 450mbs adapter to run at top speed.


D-Link Introduces HD Media Routers, Industry's First Line of Product With SmartBeam Technology and 500Mbps PowerLine Networking


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