Lenovo/IBM ThinkPad desktops & laptops up to 40% discount. Free standard shipping.

Doesn't look like there is an issue. They will check to see if the funds are available (the prior pending transaction) and then release the funds. Once they ship the laptop they will charge your card again. My card was authorized as well but has not been charged yet.

 

FatWallet Acknowledged mine too.. i will be getting Apprx $52.00 back since they base it on Pre-tax total.

 

Thank you for this information. I don't see the point of them doing this....my wife is not happy now.....and she isn't going to be happy two weeks from now if they release my order then. Just knowing that there is $1200 that is there. Should have just used a CC.

 

i got the fatwallet email saying i got the discount, so i dont know. they say i will be able to claim it in august, but i am not sure if i will get it in the end.

 

getting a bit more worried now about the warranty. i suspect that lenovo can void my 3 year extended onsite warranty that i purchased.

 

I believe in the PDF specifying the legal terms, if they cancel an extended warranty, they will refund you what you paid for it pro-rated.

A LOT. It depends on what's wrong with your laptop of course, but from my experience, repairs paid out of pocket cost several hundred dollars. I think they'd do it if you paid, but you won't want to pay what they ask.

Legally they are entitled to do so, but they also state, if my understanding is correct and it very well may not be as others have pointed out, that if they do cancel extended warranties, you will be refunded for the remainder of the warranty period, pro-rated.

 

Where is that PDF?

 

thank you Vermicious for that detailed information. I think I will be cancelling my order if they don't do it for me.

 

if you are at all concerned about not having a warranty, Id suggest you cancel. The deal is good, but not worth it for no warranty. I replaced my order through the standard discount + the AMEX Tailormade discount.

I KNOW i will be covered and still get a good discount on the comp.

 

Guys, guys, guys... calm down. Even ANDREW did it.

 

I have finally made up my mind!

I do belief in my heart that I AM BRIANS FRIEND, and I’m keeping the baby. If he denies it then he’ll just be judged when his time comes. I will raise her as best as I can with or without warranty. It won’t be easy being a single dad but I am happy with my decision to keep her.
BTW, I’m secretly relieved that the implications of a happy home in this instance would have been a deal breaker. Sorry hommie don’t play that!!!

She was immaculately conceived on 5/22/07 and will pray for delivery (cross my fingers) on 6/02 (then it became 6/08) gras a Dieu.

Here are the goodies:

7662CTO ThinkPad T61 with nVIDIA Graphics - 1 Year Depot Warranty $1,242.46
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7300 (2.0GHz 800MHz 4MBL2)[1]
Genuine Windows Vista Business[12]
14.1 WXGA+ TFT, w/ Camera
nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M
1 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz SODIMM Memory (holding out for better mem later)
UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad)
160GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm[4]
DVD Recordable 8x Max Dual Layer, Ultrabay Slim[5]
Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN[10] (not sure if thinkpad card might be better)
7 cell Li-Ion Battery[60]
7662: 1 Year Depot Warranty - Express[7] (probably done-for)
ThinkPad Advanced Mini Dock with US/Canada/LA Line Cord (Sweet!! No fumbling) $157.68
Lenovo Enhanced Performance Keyboard – US (Yeahhhhh, no more sticky stuff) $31.20

Estimated tax: $ 71.56
Savings: -$ 753.76
Estimated total: $ 1,502.90*

 

lol...emotional and moving story. You dont need any warranty, you have eachother, and thats all that matters

 

Ahh, sorry, I'm too lazy to read all of it, it's giving me a headache...

So, what's the big deal about this Meyer dude discount thing.

1.) Is it legal?

2.)Why is everyone going frantic and crazy over it?

 

too lazy to answer

 

Quick question about TailorMade deal....
Is it out of the total with tax or is it before tax for the total discount?

 

before

 

back again with your doubts?
no its probably not legal, apparently you are hesitant, so dont do it. Just place an online order the right way and feel comfortable. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT ANSWER.

 

1.) not legal
2.) good deal + difficult to get a EPP discount with 25% off.
Think about it. Who would "nice" enough to give out his EPP and risk his IBM job?

 

10 characters

 

Has anyone actually had the balls to just ask lenovo? Come tomorrow I figure I'm going to just call lenovo and get the facts straightened out. Unfortunately for you guys starting tomorrow I won't have my internet back until around Wednesday since I'm in the middle of a move.

 

Well, Lenovo/IBM hasn't deactivated Brian Meyer's EPP account (ie. it still works), so I think you guys are more worried about it than the companies themselves are.

 

Its not about balls, its about individuals screwing up what may have worked for many, because of your own doubts. This is why i originally said this thread should have beeen killed. You end up getting people that are clueless and are bound to screw it up for others. Then you are going to get a lot of pissed people that will take it out on the original poster then the forum which hosted this information. That is why you dont see this post on any other major deal site anymore.

 

Seriously! If this was as huge of a problem as people are claiming, in the very least I would have thought Lenovo would have killed the EPP account and not allowed people to keep ordering, say after the first 5-10 laptop orders came in.

I find it hard to believe Lenovo isn't aware of this whole situation yet anyway. Until Lenovo contacts me to let me know my order was canceled, my warranty is being voided, or something to that affect, then I'm assuming all is still well with the deal.

What's more, if Lenovo claims "fraud" after they physically ship the laptop to me and then tries to void the warranty, I think I can just as easily claim "fraud" on Lenovo for shipping me a laptop with perceived services (like a warranty) without giving me at least advanced warning or a notice that the warranty was being voided and that I had committed fraud in the first place.

Am I wrong in thinking that it is more fraudulent to knowingly ship out a laptop to someone that will have a voided warranty and not even tell them about it until they have to use the actual warranty; versus, me buying the laptop from them based on an "offer", "EPP deal code" I found online that seemingly worked fine upon use.

This seems to me a battle of assumptions. The argument against me is that I should have "assumed" or had an idea that using the EPP code posted on the internet would void the warranty. There is nothing, and I repeat NOTHING in the Lenovo terms and agreements I read and agreed to that specifically says by using an EPP account posted online will my order be canceled, warranty voided, etc. Lenovo would have to prove I was purposefully being fraudulent... which in my own opinion is a tough sell considering all I did was ask someone if I could use their EPP and the next thing I know I'm given a link to EPP info. Well, this transaction works both ways and an assumption can be made on Lenovos part that if there is ANYTHING wrong, or FRAUDULENT about my order that they would either cancel it, or notify me ASAP and let me know my product or services will be canceled in one way or another. In the very least give me a choice of how to proceed. AGAIN, shipping out a laptop to a paying customer and Lenovo KNOWING on their end that the warranty wont be honored, but the customer not knowing is a larger "Fraud" then using a EPP deal that was posted online... regardless if posting it was the smart or incorrect thing to do or not.

Until I hear something straight from the mouth of a Lenovo rep or an email from Lenovo regarding my personal order, this is really all hearsay as far as I'm concerned. If Lenovo decides to pull a fast one with me, my credit card company (AMEX) will definitely be getting a phone call. My personal opinion is, Lenovo might just eat the mistake on this one and cancel the account, but I could be wrong.... seems like they have more to lose than gain as in general their goal is to get laptops out in the public and make money. I'm sure they are still making money on these as it seems most people are buying their systems with extended warranties. I could be wrong... We shall see though!

 

As much as I would like to agree with HKINGS words, after reading the disclaimer under EPP site, I decided to cancel my order. I was not able to access the disclaimer again as I could not access the EPP site this morning, but I remember reading that they reserve the right to void certain items (I believe this included the warranty) if the order was placed fraudulently.

But this was a hell of a market idea and I wish I sold it to companies as my idea. I ended up paying $280 more and buying a T61 anyway after reading numerous articles on their notebooks.

 

SolidGun,

I actually printed out the "Terms & Conditions" box from the EPP site which pops up on the last page of the order process when you click the link. (The one next to the box where it asks you if you accept the agreement). I just read it again, and either I'm going blind or crazy, but no where does it say what you mention.

In fact here are the exact words under section
5. Lenovo Warranties:
"The warranties will be voided by misuse, accident, modification, unsuitable physical or operating environment, improper maintenance by you, removal or alteration of Products or parts identification labels, or failure caused by a product for which Lenovo is not responsible."

Again this is straight from the "Terms & Conditions" on the EPP site final order page. I printed it out and even have the title "Employee Purchase Program - Checkout - Popup" at the top of each page of the agreement I printed. If Lenovo feels the need to cancel for another reason, I'll happily report it to Amex and provide the agreement to them without hesitation. I feel my bases are covered no matter what happens.

However, if I truly am missing something, let me know! I've got another week or so to cancel this order should someone undeniably prove that I have done something illegal, or my warranty is for sure voided no matter what.

Thanks again for everyone's help and input!

 

this sounds to me THE BEST marketing TOOL a computer co. has come up with yet . HURRY! HURRY! before its too late UH! HU!

 

If there is a cap on the number of laptops bought using a specific EPP account, Lenovo/IBM should have a provision to disable an account after X number of laptops are sold. So, after Bob buys the 10th laptop using Joe Jack's EPP account, when Jane tries to buy a T61 with the account, Lenovo should have a message saying, "This EPP account has already reached its limit on the number of laptops sold. We apologize for the inconvenience." The fact that they can't even implement something as simple as that on their servers means that they shouldn't whine to us about using the account. We are Brian Meyer's friends, and we didn't know there was a limit: neither he nor Lenovo told us about it!

By the way, even Andrew did it. <--- I should make this my sig.

 

Thank you HKINGS for saving that information. I wish I had done that myself, but when I read about this offer I was at work and in a mad rush to place the order .

I guess with that initial order, I placed it on my bank card and I would not have received any protection. And I usually don't carry my AMEX unless I am traveling. But my new order was placed on AMEX and I will be getting 10% off through TailorMade so I didn't miss out too much (except I had to order more to meet $1600....I guess I didn't have to, but y'all know how it goes).

Only if I had my AMEX......

 

Meyer is an employee of IBM so his EPP is regulated by IBM. I was able to
find the terms and conditions of that EPP here:

https://www-132.ibm.com/content/home/store_eppus/en_US/terms.html

Here's the text. Note the parts I've bolded out:

====
EPP terms and conditions

The IBM U.S. Employee Purchase Program (EPP) is the program that makes a
wide range of IBM products available at discounted prices to IBM employees
and their family & friends. Eligibility and terms of the "Program" are described
below:

1. The following individuals are eligible for the program:

a. Regular full-time or regular part-time IBM employees with a valid IBM Serial Number

b. Regular retired, permanently disabled or on-leave-of-absence IBM regular employees,

c. Surviving spouses of IBM regular employees,

d. Supplemental & Co-op Employees with a valid IBM Serial Number

e. Family members and personal friends of the above.

2. An IBM employee serial number is required for all purchases under the
Program. Providing an IBM employee's serial number to individuals other than
persons listed above for use in making purchases through the Program is
explicitly prohibited and is considered a violation of the terms and conditions.

3. A maximum of 25 systems units for each employee serial number per
calendar year may be purchased under the Program. These quantities can
only be exceeded with the expressed approval of the Program manager.
Please contact IBM EPP telesales at 1-800-IBM-EMPL for details.

4. The purchase of certain discounted products may not be combined with
other discounts, rebates or promotions, unless otherwise specified by IBM.
These products will be designated as required.

5. All purchases, with the exception of IBM Certified Used PC products, are
subject to the terms of the IBM Acquisition Agreement. In the event of any
conflict between the terms of the addendum and the IBM Acquisition
Agreement, the terms of this Addendum control. IBM Certified Used PC
products are subject to the terms of the IBM Credit Corporation PC
Remarketing Sales Agreement. In the event of any conflict between the
terms of the addendum and the IBM Credit Corporation PC Remarketing Sales
Agreement, the terms of this Addendum control. Warranty statements, if any,
for other used equipment, are provided with the used equipment.

The applicable Agreements will be presented during the checkout process,
and you must accept their terms prior to completing checkout.
====

There is nothing explicit about warranties. But then again that would fall under the section of the law that deals with contracts. If a contract was entered into under false pretenses, is it voidable?

 

Note the above reference as well:

"The applicable Agreements will be presented during the checkout process,
and you must accept their terms prior to completing checkout."

That "Agreement" is what I printed out and quoted in my above posts as well. Again... not sure what is going to happen with this, but its actually is quite interesting to speculate!

 

better bail out! i think hes well over his 10 limit maybe 10 x 300

 

Your credit card company may very will back you up, but the likelihood of Lenovo canceling your warranty is real. How likely they're going to I have no idea. However, it has happened to people in the past, and going by that alone should tell you it is a possibility.

 

So in way, this is technically legal...?

 

i would say 25 were ordered very quickly--perhaps within hours of the original post. so i would think that my order, along with many others, will be canceled...and i ordered my laptop in the evening--maybe 5 hours after it was first posted on here.

 

You guys have to remember the OP on the other forums. He/She mentioned this being a "friends and family" event, where employees were encouraged to give out their serial numbers to numerous people to have them buy things. I am pretty sure they lifted the number of purchase limit for a brief period of time. The quote from the original email is now gone from the OP on this site though

 

read my sig

 

Please explain the significance that Andrew did it.

 

How dare you question Andrew! You should be banned!

Apparently he has max reps and "is a splendid one to behold." If vBullentin says he is splendid, then we have no choice but to agree. Go EPP DEALS WOO HOO MONKEY!!!

 

I see a mass cancelling coming up in the next week or two, or a mass warranty cancelling after Lenovo collects all your money and youre stuck with a unwarranted brick

 

Stop trying to get everyone to cancel so you fall in the special 25! We're all going down together!!

 

The IBM EPP agreement may be for an IBM EPP account referring to purchases of IBM products, not Lenovo products. I feel what HKINGS found is the most accurate representation of the situation. If IBM products were equivalent to Lenovo products, we would've seen the same contract show up when purchasing a Thinkpad via the EPP account, yet the contract displayed in that purchase said nothing of warranty voiding or limits on EPP purchases. Heck, as of now, the Meyer account still works. For those of you who cancelled because you lost your nuts, too bad.

 

Interestingly enough, I found a Brian Meyer here: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/inf...casts/intranet&S_TACT=103BGW01&S_CMP=campaign. He's the Chief Architect of IBM's intranet.

 

When Lenovo or IBM employees buy Lenovo computers, the EPP rules that governs the pruchase are those of the company they work for. So if an IBM employee buys a Lenovo, he has to abide by IBM's EPP rules. If a Lenovo employee buys a Lenovo, he has to abide by Lenovo's EPP rules.

See the following links:

http://www.lenovo.com/epp/
http://www.lenovo.com/ibmepp/

Although both pages look identical, Meyer's referral works only with one page. Now which page would that be? When you're logged in, does it greet you with "Welcome to the Lenovo EPP" or "Welcome to the IBM EPP"?

 

Fair enough- your rhetorical questions answer much. But those answers aren't my problem, their Brian Meyer's problem. I, like HKINGS, never was presented with these contracts and agreements as a buyer. I'm innocent.

 

I dunno how much this helps since its Lenovo now and not IBM, but when I got my T41 in 2004, I used an EPP Login that had been passed around quite a bit.

Never had a single issue when dealing with warranty and tech support issues. The login had to have been used 100+ times, maybe more, considering how many people posted on the thread.

 

You guys crack me up!!! They don't care who or how many people get the EPP discount. It's only 15% (+ the current 25% sale). I can tell you two other ways that almost anybody can get that discount.

I have you all pictured with a heat lamp over your head staring at a glass of ice water. Calm down. I bet everybody that has ordered gets there laptop with a warranty and will never hear "boo" from Lenovo. Get a hold of yourselves!

 

I wonder how this differs from the Canadian policy.

I noticed that you could use it on the Canadian site (without the major Memorial day thing mind you) but the price difference was so little for the product that I wanted that I rather not take the risk.

 

Everybody "knows" good old "Brian...

 

He's a popular guy. All the chicks love him too.

 

Hi;
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Which one??
I have a T41... Love the build...