HD3650 in ifl91

FGLRX works fine if you disable the 3d effects otherwise it tend t be a bit glitchy with compiz activated.

 

Hi, i would question about hd 3650. I'm thinking between ddr3 and ddr2 version. Which version will be faster? And second question is: Run version ddr3 without flash vBios as well as ddr2? If not, what would be the procedure, when I had black screen. Thx for the reply

 

Both versions don't need to be flashed. The GDDR3 version is considerably faster than the DDR2 version of the Mobility Radeon HD3650.

 

and need I flash vBios hd3650 ddr3, that i used it at 100% performance?

 

could anyone provide link to a store where I can buy HD3650 DDR3?

 

No vbios needed to reach 100% performance with the Mobility Radeon HD 3650 GDDR3.

You can get that card for example from here. Says used but the price is great.

 

It seems that is only a driver problem. I found working drivers for Windows 7 from www touslesdrivers com (Sorry, I cannot include urls with yet).

But I am interested on making it work under Windows XP. Does anyone have drivers for XP 32 bits?

 

Well, if you use the tool to modify the drivers for the Desktop variant of the ATI cards to fit your Mobility Radeon, you should be able to use the XP 32 bit drivers directly from ATI. Both with Vista 64 bit and Windows 7 64 bit I had no problem with this method and it should work for XP as well.

 

Mobility Modder wasn't working for me. Don't know why. I have found a package with 10.3 drivers for Windows Vista/7 and 9.10 drivers for XP. They seem to work for me.

Anyway, thanks for the answers.

 

I bought this graphic card

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worked fine in my computer?

 

That's the card I have installed in my FL90. I have made it work, so you could also do it.

 

I'm new to this forum and I'm hoping someone can help me with my fl90 and subsequent hd3650 installation problem. Apologies for the longwinded explanation.

Several weeks ago I started my fl90 and got a blank screen. Startup sounds were normal fan HD etc and I successfully logged into windows xp (I heard the Jingle) blind with the fingerprint scanner. I did a blind shut down too. I did this a few times but still a dead screen. This computer has never made a POST beep on startup. No display on external monitor either. Fried 8600 GT??

I took it into the shop where I bought it and they kept it for a few weeks to check it out. They told me it was either the motherboard or graphics card (they couldn't tell which) and said it would cost $500-$800 to replace both .
I'm not planning to pay that much to repair it when I could transfer my RAM and CPU to a new barebone for less.

Having read this forum I hedged my bets on the graphics card and picked up a hd3650 ddr2 512mb (ACER Bios Apparently) for 50 pounds (UK) on ebay.

Before installing the new card I tried starting up the notebook one more time. This time it started ran for about 10 seconds then froze. I shut it down with a long press on the power button and tried again. It went into an auto restart loop running for 10 seconds or so before restarting. I stopped the loop by holding down the power button. (Still nothing on screen throughout and still no POST beeps or error beeps)
The shop had tested the monitor RAM and HDD but didn't claim to have done anything else. They seem to have destabilised the windows startup somehow though.

Considering the screen was still dead and had been since before the booting problem I decided to go ahead and install the new GPU. A very kind (and much more tech savvy friend did most of it to be honest). We reused the cooling pads and didn't dremmel the heatsink but we did use some arctic silver 5 and transferred the square bracket thing from the base of the old card to the new one.

Once we got it back together we started it up and.....
Nothing. Blank screen, fan started, HD LED and ODD Led flashed a little but after a few seconds, nothing.

So what Next???
My friend believes it the motherboard has failed based on the lack of beeping (even if we start it with no ram and/or no cpu).
As I said before the computer has never made a POST beep on start up. When working normally it uses quiet boot (i.e. the phoenix logo flashes up for a few seconds, switches to a flashing mark in the top left corner then windows kicks in).

Does quiet boot disable the sounds too?

More importantly can I enable the beep code sounds so we can work out whether the mother board is working or not and what the problem is?

If we can't activate the beep code system how else could we confirm that the computer is POSTing blindly e.g. boot from the xp cd etc?

Any ideas at all would be welcome. If anyone with a working fl90 can work out how to activate the post beeps (or at least let me know if their computer is silent too even with the ram removed) please let me know.

 

You definitely have to dremel the heatsink. The small gap is hard to notice at first, but there is a gap and that way the heatsink can not do its job properely.

But that should not be the problem. I never had any beeps from my FL90 or from my current laptop, I think it is just not a feature on most laptop mainboards (correct me if I'm wrong).

If the mainboard failed completely, the laptop would not do anything anymore. I had the same once after re-installing the HD 3650. Take both rams, try to boot, but in one ram, try to boot, put in the other, try to boot, etc. But apparently you already did it. The FL90 is always silent, even with no ram installed. If that does not help, than your mainboard has in fact suffered some kind of damage. Otherwise, try to boot only with battery, take battery out, try to boot only with A/C - that also brought my laptops back to life in similar situations.

Quiet boot does not disable sounds. You can only use the try-and-error approach. Also try booting from a XP or Linux version that can run directly from USB/CD.

 

Thanks for the help. If it is always silent then at least there is still hope.
I'll try your suggestions and also try to boot from cd. Even if a boot from cd appears to work it's unlikely to fix the dead screen but at least I'll know there's something going on behind the scenes. Am I correct in thinking that if the fl90 gets as far as reading the cd (i.e. I can see the drive light flickering and hear it spin as it reads the data) that the motherboard is probably ok?

Am I also correct in thinking that the laptop will run and boot without any graphics card at all if the other parts are healthy (i.e. will not detecting a graphics card cause the boot to fail).

As for the dead screen. I read an earlier post (#292) about going in again, removing and replacing the graphics card more carefully and giving it another go. I'll get to that as well. Perhaps the ill fitting heatsink moved the gpu out of place a little.

What about the ASCER BIOS on the GPU. Is that likely to conflict and prevent the card from showing any display?

I'll let you know how it goes. Any further input, answers, theories or ideas are welcome.

 

Has anybody changed JHL90 graphics card? I'm thinking about HD3870, but I don't know if it will work.

 

TKB, Acer bios shouldnt be a problem. My HD 3650 GDDR3 runs with an Acer bios as well and I had no problems.

If the FL90 can read whats on the CD, it should be an indication that the motherboard is functioning.

The FL90 will most likely not boot without any GPU. There is no internal GPU or anything so without a GPU it cannot function, but I did not try this.

It can always help to double check everything... especially since changing the GPU is a pain in the with the FL90 because you have to take it apart completely. Maybe the three cables that connec the mainboard and the LCD are loose?

Of course the first thing we should to is attach an external monitor and see if the problem results from the display itself or from other parts.

 

Thanks for the help and advice Daniel. It's been a pretty busy week so I haven't been able to work through all your suggestions yet. I'm also going to be away for a week so I won't have a chance to work on this for a while. I will get to it when I have time and I'll let you know how it goes.

 

Hi guys, like many my original 8600m gt has failed, I bought a HD3650 as a replacement however the new card doesnt have the metal bracket necessary to screw the heatsink assembly on. Do you take the bracket off the original card or do you order new ones and if so, from where?

Cheers

 

Pretty much, but be careful as if you use to much force to unglue it, you will bend the metal and it is a pain the straighten it afterward....

 

I cant find the drivers for the hd3650, it works like a standard VGA.

 

Cheers all sorted, worked first time without any fiddling too! Although I need to go back in and do the heatsink modification got a white screen after 10 or so mins.

 

Use this + this.

 

Thank you.

Do you know where I can sell a ift00 motherboard? This new unused. I bought it thinking it was my problem and was found to be graphics card.

bad buy. XDD

 

Currently they offer standard notebook drivers along with their monthly driver updates. go here Graphics Drivers & Software then select your os>mobility radeon>3000 series and download.

 

Just stick to it, use it as backup in case your motherboard fails. Or keep an eye out for people looking for it on this board. My sister has an IFT00, too, maybe I'll contact you if it breaks down ;-)

 

hi all,

i finally have the hd 3650 for my compal fl-90, but i have the first problem...
the board hasn't the base of the heat sink and i have to uninstall the base of the nvidia card to install in the ati card, but i don't know how do it, it seems to be adhered in the card.

Anyone can help me?, and i read that is necessary to "modify" the heat sink for the ati card, where i can learn about that?

thanks and sorry for my english!!

 

well i uninstall the base of heat-sink, but now it not fit correctly to the new ati vga hd3650, it is a bit different that the draw in the board, anyone know how modify or install the base in the new vga??

thx,

 

anyone read that thread???

well, i am desperated, i mount the laptop with the new vga, but i have a black screen, i unmounted and reinstall the vga for two times, but no response, i connect a external monitor and nothing. But the laptop load and insert a dvd bootable and read. The laptop seems work. Do you think is a vbios problem?? i brought the hd 3650 in ebay a honk kong vendor.

please, i don't know what to do now!!!

thx a lot

 

It Works!!! . I tried booting my notebook with only one stick of ram and then the other and it worked. Although I'm convinced the GPU was the initial problem one of the RAM sticks must have gotten fried during the repair process (quite possibly by the computer shop when it was being tested because that's when it stopped booting normally with no picture). With the good stick (in either port) everything works but with the bad stick (or both) nothing.
Good excuse for a RAM upgrade .
As far as my POST beep question goes: It looks like this model doesn't show anything on screen/ give any warning if there's a RAM problem. I'm guessing it's the same for the CPU. It just appears dead.
Now for the drivers. I'll have a go with mobility modder and see how it goes.
Thanks for the advice and encouragement.

 

I'm having trouble finding hd3650 drivers for xp. If I use mobility modder as suggested above which driver should I download to MOD.

 

it work, it work, jjejajajeajejajeaj

thanks a lot!!!!!

 

I used them. They worked perfectly. Just take the latest driver that matches your OS and follow the instructions. Easy.

Thanks a lot.

 

can someone update the BIOS ROM hd3650 to work at 100% and 512 megabytes showed bios. Previous link does not work anymore. thx

 

Would this work in an FL92? I think the motherboard itself says ift00 on it. I can't PM you, probably because I'm new here.

 

I think that it works but im not sure. Sorry.

Maybe somebody else could answer your question.

 

For how much would you sell it?

 

sorry, i´ve already sold.

 

one of the cheapest ati 3650 ddr3 version ever seen
ATI Graphics Video Card HD 3650 HD3650 DDR3 256MB MXM - eBay (item 250651041838 end time Jul-14-10 03:27:15 PDT)

 

Hi guys, finally got through the thread and I'm happy to see I'm not stuck with my dead 8600. It started diing like 3 months ago, I baked it and worked fine until recently, when I baked it again but kinda ed up and it's just a piece of black..er..something at the moment.

So, reading about your results, obviously the best thing to do seems to get a 3650 with 256MB GDDR3 - I couldn't find any around until yotano's post - can anybody confirm that it's a true GDDR3 (and not the GDDR2 weaker version?). Anybody has bought it yet? Or any help with some other sellers? Seriously, can't find any.

 

If I buy 3650 it comes with mountig bracket ? Or I need to reuse it from my dead 8600 ? Thanks.

 

Most laptop video cards come without the mounting bracket.

 

In my experience the Mobility Radeon HD 3650 with 512MB DDR2 comes without brackets, while the 256MB GDDR3 version comes with brackets.

 

Hi guys, I would like to ask for help. I ordered a HD 3650 with 256MB DDR3 (presumably) and after some initial problems (I had no mounting brackets, eh), I finally got everything together. My laptop turns on, Windows loads and everything seems to be working fine, but I can't get any drivers working. I have already tried several versions including the latest one, I also tried the modder, with no success - it either doesn't find an appropriate driver for my hardware or it seems to run through but not install in fact. The system doesn't recognize the card at all (I'm using Windows XP Professional 32bit). Any hints, please?

edit>
This might be the cause - in the Conflicting device list in the VgaSave Properties I found this:
Input/Output Range 03B0 - 03BB used by:
Mobile Intel(R) PM965/GM965/GL960 Express PCI Express Root Port - 2A01
Input/Output Range 03C0 - 03DF used by:
Mobile Intel(R) PM965/GM965/GL960 Express PCI Express Root Port - 2A01
Memory Range 000A0000 - 000BFFFF used by:
Mobile Intel(R) PM965/GM965/GL960 Express PCI Express Root Port - 2A01

Still, no idea what should I do.. :|

 

hello there. My compal graphic card died finally and I can't burn it out again in the oven

I was wondering if anyone could tell me what card is this:
KARTA GRAF. ATI VG.M9206.004 512 MB FV GWR NR4733 (1152118777) - Aukcje internetowe Allegro

and will it work in Compal FL90? I think it's 4670 but i'm not entirely sure. Halp!

 

its a ati 4570 ddr2 version.

 

Only seemingly legit Mobility Radeon HD 4650 with GDDR3 I've seen so far is this one.

There is also a MSI Mobility Radeon HD 4670 with GDDR3 but that's practically impossible to get.

 

just bought HD3650 (unfortunately with DDR2 512) but I was wondering

what's the difference between VG.86M06.004 and VG.86M06.003? Mine is VG.86M06.003. I know that VG.86M06.002 is DDR3 version but the 003 I have never heard of it...

also - are those correct clocks for default/performance mode? seems a bit low ...

Code:

Default Adapter - ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650
                            Core (MHz)    Memory (MHz)
           Current Clocks :    300           500
             Current Peak :    600           500
  Configurable Peak Range : [300-600]     [500-500]
                 GPU load :    2%

yeah something is definately wrong, can someone post link to normal vbios that unlocks memory from 500 MHz? I believe the normal working freq is around 700 in highest stress mode.

 

Hey guys,
nice to see that there's so many people out there having the same issues^^
I read through most of the thread and it really helped me a lot. Since my 8600M GT died, i bought a HD3650 and installed it today (after beeing able to overcome some problems with the mounting bracket which took me ~2 days...).

Still my FL90 doesn't work the way it's supposed to. The HDD is not recognized and I am getting this message during the boot-sequence:

PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable
PXE-MOF: Exiting Intel Boot Agent

Has anyone experienced something similar? I already disassembled the whole thing once again to check if i forgot to connect any cables but couldn't find any (except the one for the bluetooth-card, which is not installed anyway).

I'm kind of frustrated right now...

Greetz

 

If I'm not mistaking the message "PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable
PXE-MOF: Exiting Intel Boot Agent" is normal. Check the boot order in bios, there should be something with PXE, you can but that after the CD/DVD and HDD and you should not get that msg anymore. Your HDD is directly connected to the SATA controller on the motherboard... it should work as it is since you cannot disconnect that controller.

 

I'm not able to change the boot order since the HDD is not recognized at all, so it doesn't even show up in the Bios.