TONGFANG GK5CN5Z / GK5CN6Z / GK5CQ7Z / GK5CP0Z

Just for saying, I have orverclocked from 60Hz to 64Hz my display and there is a bit of improvement

 

Are you SERIOUS !!!! More POWA to the RTX cards? Like increasing the TDP a bit? I would love for that to happen. Is it safe to flash to another bios for now because I was told there is an OP15 bios that fixes the 2 fast key stroke issue...?

Don't want to lose compatibility by flasing a non RTX bios..

 

Well, you are not going to loose compatibility, you are going to loose the entire laptop...
Just for saying, the Tongfang with gtx 1060 and gtx1050 have two different bios with two different ec.
Don't flash the GTX version for no reason

 

I figured. lol

It would be awesome if we could run the full 2070 bios on the Max-Q 15 inch and see how it copes.

I am currently running your Rev Center still. I find it nicer to use than the gaming center. I just get the spinning dots stuck on the screen. Overall it seems to have better fan curves for each of the profiles.

Regarding running the OP17 2070 bios, will it recognise the OP15's MQ 2070?

 

I've tried the settings provided by @Blebleuh, so now I can get 3890 mhz during Aida stress test with 100 mhz dips occasionally. Thanks for the specs mate! My cache can't take -150mv, had a BSOD when I tried to run CB, so I'm running it on -125mv, core on -250mv. I have set the PP0 Current Limit and the ICCmax up to Blebleuh's settings, seem to be working fine. I've yet to do some more extensive testing, see if it can hold it if I stress it longer. If I run the cpu and gpu stress simultaneously in Aida I'm capped at 2,4ghz CPU clock speed and I can see that it's drawing less power too. Is this normal?

PS:


I still get these, when I stress test sometimes they flash up red. Tried playing with settings but they are just there no matter what I do.

 

Does anyone else have issues with their wrist while using they keyboard on this laptop? I notice that my left wrist hurts after about an hour of gaming on that keyboard.

 

@Phoenix1221 - What is your PL2 power limit set to in ThrottleStop? Have you tried increasing it? Are you using the FIVR Disable and Lock Turbo Power Limits feature? I cannot stress enough that you need to use this feature. Is the Clamp option selected? It should not be. Post some more pics. Your ThrottleStop screenshot does not tell me too much because the CPU is not fully loaded. Can you get a solid 39.00 multiplier for an entire Cinebench run like other users are able to get?

How many watts is your power adapter rated at? If you try to draw too many watts, some power adapters will trip and will not be able to provide full power until you unplug and reset them. The AIDA combined stress test might be too much for one of these laptops or the power adapter you are using. Cinebench is less demanding so you should start by testing with it and see how your multiplier holds up.

 

I'm looking to get the RTX 2060 version Mech15-G2 which I'm assuming is the same chassis ..is there anything I should be looking out for? Was going to purchase the P960ed, but came to a liking with this instead...

 

Thank you for the assistance mate, with this setup, the CB test doesn't trigger any throttling, my multiplier is at 39 solid during the CB run, though my score is still slightly below the numbers I've seen, doesn't bother me that much if I can get this performance with stability. Here is my setup:


I'm using CB R15, dunno what you guys use to get the test results, also, I'm not messing with cpu priority while testing. Also, to answer your question, the PSU is 180W, it's what PC Specialists sent me as a replacement for the 150W one as that was causing my laptop sudden shutdowns and the like. I'll do some extensive testing later, if you have any suggestions on what to change, let me know!

 

Weird.

 

Yes, I also have those little windows. kinda cute lol

 

I am requesting the OP 17 2070 bios from a friend who has the PCSpecialist equivalent machine. Hopefully we'll get to try it soon.

 

I think visual studio is trying to get me mad or something similar. I wrote on my code those tiny windows shouldn't appear and on my laptop they doesn't appear :/

 

Are there places to purchase localised keycaps for the GK5CN5Z? I've bought Overpowered's version of the laptop and would like to change the US layout to a UK one.

 

@Phoenix1221 - Are you running single channel memory or dual channel? Single channel will negatively effect Cinebench scores. Too many background tasks will also hurt your Cinebench numbers. When an 8750H is idle, ThrottleStop should be showing C0% at approximately 0.5. Many people have way too many inefficient apps running in the background on their computers which reduces performance.

In my opinion, a combined CPU + GPU AIDA stress test is overkill for most laptops. Are there any real world apps that you need to run that are going to stress a computer anywhere near this level? Probably not.

There's the warning. If AIDA stress testing is important to you, try increasing the Turbo Boost Long and Short Power Max values. Go up by 5, 10, 20 or whatever and see if it helps. Post a screenshot of ThrottleStop with Limit Reasons open while this stress test is running so I can see what ThrottleStop reports when the CPU is fully loaded.

 

Hi, yes its the same chassis. Overall its a pretty nice laptop. I'm having issues with the keyboard not always registering 2 fast keystrokes so I get words with letters missing... there's a bios update that fixes this issue apparently and not everyone has this problem. There's a strong community behind this laptop and there's seems to be a fix and mods for almost anything.

I was also looking into the clevo you mentioned, its a good option too. The Tongfang is smaller so it depends how much you value portability and things like per key RGB etc...

The clevo might be one notch ahead in terms of overall quality but not sure, i've never had one in hands. The annoying thing about the keyboard is that I really like how it feels and its great to type on but I'm just getting this stupid issue, I guess its only a big deal if you type really fast and I'll look into it and find a fix eventually

One issue I have and need to investigate with my OEM is that if I leave a mini DP cable attached to my 1440p gsync monitor the laptop will boot very slowly and I lose the sata ssd (does not show in my pc in windows). So yeah maybe its just my laptop and I have the 15 inch version but I'm waiting for someone to try this when they receive their RTX Tongfang machine to know if its a fault with the design of the laptop

The newly refreshed RTX TongFang chassis have only just been released so it might be that we need a bios update to fix those issues and I'm experiencing first adopter bugs.

I hope this helps. I'm still happy I chose this little guy and be done with bulky heavy gaming laptops even if that meant going with Max-Q gpu.

 

Am I the only one with a Tongfang RTX gpu? Just wondering because I can't install latest 418.81 nvidia driver because they didnt include the device id of this chassis (motherboard) in their driver masking it impossible to install

I even tried modded drivers after turning off secure boot and disabling driver signature check but nothing works...

 

I went ahead and made the purchase...Mechanical Keyboard/4 Exhaust ports/Massive bottom grills/Better screen/Better heat dissipation all made this a no brainer to me..a huge compromise is the thickness esp coming from a MBP, but I'll get over it since it has everything I want ... As much as I admire thin laptops I can't help but think if Clevo even made any major changes to their cooling system from the previous P9XXX series and I just think this looks better..

With that being said, I also read about the keystroke issues...What's weird is how only some people are having this issue yet there's a bios fix? So what exactly is happening with the people who don't have this issue or are they just not noticing it?

I'm probably one of the very few that purchased the 2060 Version so maybe I'll have better luck IA and I'll also be on the lookout for the issues you mentioned to see if it's your device or a TongFang issue... Thank you for the response..

Also on your last point I think in the 17" thread people were having the same issue trying to install drivers and some were having issues even getting their RTX GPU recognized...

 

RE: Also on your last point I think in the 17" thread people were having the same issue trying to install drivers and some were having issues even getting their RTX GPU recognized...

You have to install GF Experience to install the latest drivers if you are having issues installing just the driver itself.

 

MSI Afterburner was making my idle system using 6% of my CPU in the background, that was the issue. Also, the screenshot during Aida stability test:


As you can see I get pretty high temps even only stressing the CPU, if I run the GPU stress test simultaneously, my rig overheats. I just repasted it last week. With this setup I manage to get 1257 in CB. My ram is only single channel, so there's that. The score is decent now but I don't like the heat issue.

 

Hey all,

Did a clean reformat on my OP 15+ laptop. Windows Update seems to have found most of the drivers, but three are missing. Any idea what these are and where I can find these drivers? I have the OP 15+ driver pack but it is just a bunch of random stuff, I don't really have the tech prowess to discern which is which.

Thanks in advance.

 

I received the keyboard cover from aliexpress. It's.....alright. Compared to a cover I used on my MBP, it doesn't stay on as well because 1) it's not a chiclet keyboard and 2) the vinyl I have on probably doesn't help. There can be a lot of glare on it in a lit room, as shown in the photo, but it's fine in the dark. It noticeably dampens the sound of the keys, basically making the keyboard non-clicky but not exactly quieter. I can't say it really hurts my typing speed or accuracy much. The only reason I use a cover is to preserve the look of the keys. I hate it when the surface gets worn down and becomes shiny and greasy looking.

 

can you post link to keyboard cover?

 

If anyone is running linux and having issues Freezing/crashing when you resume form suspend, you need to unload the touchpad driver (ic2_hid module) before suspend and reload it after waking, via a system-sleep hook or systemd hook.

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...-series-membrane-TPU/4494009_32924388323.html

 

I ordered a keyboard cover for the 17” last week. Hopefully it will stay put better with the extra depth on those keycaps.

I can’t believe how bad the driver support for mobile RTX is. It’s scary that companies are sending out non-functioning machines. But I suppose patience will pay off.

 

I think with single channel ram, that is right where you are supposed to be. Performance looks good. Now you just have to repaste and try to get your temps under control.

 

Thanks for the guidance! I owe you a drink haha

 

Here's a list of all the entries in my Device Manager for the OP 15+ ... hopefully by comparing mine to yours it might help you figure out what's missing.

Spoiler

 

ok so still trying to dial in my 8750H it still is thermal throttling in demanding games

I can't undervolt anymore than -.100mv or it crashes/becomes unstable. is this uncommon or just down to silicon lottery?

I have have my cache down to -.105mv

What are the other settings that can help? I've set my max turbo boost short power to 70W but it doesnt hold and resets to 90W...?

I was hoping that with the correct settings in XTU and wouldn't need to use Throttle stop

 

Did you re-paste? It makes a world of difference if you do it right.

 

Hello,

I have the Overpowered Gaming Laptop 17". I was trying to update the BIOS to 1.16 from 1.04 stock and I am getting an error about the bios has a different platform name. I am unable to update. Any idea or fix around this? Was looking to Hackintosh the system.

 

Just want to warn you this is the 15" forum, the BIOSes here aren't really made for the 17".

 

I have considered re-pasting but don't really want to go through having to disassemble it all to gain only a coupe of degrees. I think you get a much cooler CPU by running it with the correct XTU and ThrottleStop settings.

Just downloaded Throttlestop so will play with that a little.

 

Would you be able to direct me to the 17" forum or where I can find the BIOS for the 17". I greatly appreciate it.

 

I have considered re-pasting but don't really want to go through having to disassemble it all to gain only a coupe of degrees. I think you get a much cooler CPU by running it with the correct XTU and ThrottleStop settings.

Just downloaded Throttlestop so will play with that a little.

 

In my experience repasting gives you the most benefit where temps are concerned. I think on 9 out of 10 laptops repasting has dropped at least 10c from max temps for me. I've yet to receive a factory paste job that is within a couple of degrees of a repasted result.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/tongfang-gk7cn6s.825461/
I would ask the INPHTECH rep there for the latest BIOS for the GTX 1060.

 

Try Driver Booster, even the free version has all the drivers you need.

 

I was able to get -130 on the cache and -175 on the core. If you re-paste, use something with a higher viscosity like IC Diamond. I used thermal grizzly kryonaught initially but had an issue with it pumping out. I have no problem running prime 95 26.6 and furmark at the same time with temps around 70 for the CPU and high 60's for the GPU. This is with the CPU drawing 45 watts and the GPU drawing around 80 watts.

 

-.125 on the core gives me unstable results so im on -.100mv on the core and -.100mv on the cache

I installed ThrottleStop and used Bob of All trades video tutorial. Now testing results to see if I get any improvements on temps

 

So I wish I had something more interesting to contribute, however this is more troubleshooting. I'm getting this annoying buzzing/crackling sound from the top center of the bottom of the case. After doing some research, a lot of the results come back as being coil whine but this sound seems buzzier and less metallic.



Coil Whine Example:


What I've noticed:

The buzzing doesn't start immediately, however it appears to be triggered by processor-intensive tasks like Ableton music production sessions. While using Ableton with the OP Control Center on High Performance Mode, the buzzing will continue indefinitely. Switching to Equilibrium Mode immediately stops the buzzing and while using this mode the sound only returns while the processor is being pushed. This makes me think it's directly processor related since HP Mode holds the processor at max speeds.

I also noticed while running in High Performance Mode on battery, if I plug in the charger the buzzing is reduced to a faint hum and once I unplug it again the sound is 100% gone. But this causes immediate extreme performance throttling even though it's still set to High Performance Mode.

Am I overthinking this and is it simply the sound of the processor working hard or is it a sign of something more serious? I've been dealing with endless BSOD's and crashes for the last two months, which I think I've finally sorted, but they've left me a bit paranoid about the overall health/longevity of my machine.

Thanks for any help, this thread has been a lifesaver so far.

 

How does the track pad work with the vinyl on it? I put CF vinyl on the front of mine and it came out better than expected.

I have a lot left over and thinking about doing this as well.

 

For my units 15" and 17" I've found the sound to rarely happen, I really don't know what it is coming from, cause sometimes, if I put my laptop flat, the sound goes away.

 

If you're asking how it works, well it's a capacitive touch surface like a phone so a thin non-metallic material won't affect its function. If you're asking how well it works, then I think it works fine. I was using the trackpad with the protective film from the factory for a couple weeks before I put on the vinyl, so I've never actually used the naked touchpad. I actually kind of prefer the slightly rough feeling of the CF vinyl instead of a really smooth surface. Give it a try.

 

Best CB score so far: 1270. is that good? avg? the norm?

Pretty impressed since my 8086k at @5ghz is somewhere around 1600 if I remember correctly.

PS: Does the usb-c port at the back of the laptop supports display port?

 

Very good cinebench score, in fact its higher than any laptop tested at nbc: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-8750H-SoC.275944.0.html (max 1251).

The type c port does not support display port, it only a type c port that operates at regular usb 3.0 speeds (aka 3.1 gen 1)

 

I did think it was pretty good, nice .Don't know why I didn't think of checking on NBC... duh

So I've got a 230W PSU on the way and I downloaded OEMsev. As I understand, I have to set the batch file with the correct value but there isn't one for 230W PSU:

- Find the following line : OemServiceWinApp.exe AdpType /Set #
- Depending on your AC adapter, replace the # at the end by : 1 (?W adapter), 2 (180W adapter), 3 (150W adapter), 4 (120W adapter)

I know some of you guys have done this mod so just want to check before I do something stupid.

Also I have the new RTX 2070 MQ 15 inch chassis, will this work ok? I know the laptop probably wont pull more than the 180W it is currently configured at but I'm planning to lift the 2070 MQ power limit somehow, maybe by using the bios from the 17inch chassis and wait for some modded vbios and use a programmer. I really want to go deeper into modding this thing.

The cooling could handle the 90W TDP some 2070 MQ laptop have, just need to find a way to flash my 2070 MQ

 

I got the 17 inch RTX 2070. It can't seem to handle anything above .8mv at full load. I'm not sure if it's any better than the Max-Q.
Here's firestrike in case anyone's interested (Temps: CPU-84c GPU-73C):

 

@unclewebb ,What did you think about his EDP OTHER Limit in RING? The same limit pops up in my case. Sharing screens of my TS settings. The first time I open "limits" after booting up I get all the limit flags shown, but from what I've seen, when I reset them only RINGs EDP OTHER seems to continually pop up