TONGFANG GK5CN5Z / GK5CN6Z / GK5CQ7Z / GK5CP0Z

I've found an STD version (no custom icons) of GamingCenter 2 on Eluctronics site under RTX versions drivers page https://www.eluktronics.com/content/Drivers/Mech-2070/GamingCenter_2.0.1.3_STD.zip

It hasn't the fancy music of Mechrevo's one and it is possible to disable animations with the usual method (eventually I can upload an already modified version).
I prefer this second version of GC because in addition of being substantially a dark theme corrects some issues of the first version:
-Selecting Game mode doesn't automatically change the keyboard lightning layout, screen settings and lock windows key, there is a dedicated button to do it.

-LED light bar settings issues are solved so you can change settings for both "plugged in" and "on battery" while being always plugged in or on battery.
-Game Mode for fan settings is now hidden, you have to activate turbo mode then it will appear and you can select it.
-Seems quicker and more responsive.
-Performance are really good: on CB15 I registered an average of 1270 with a peack of 1278 in respect to 1250 scores with Mechrevo's GC 2.0.1.1 with same configuration and settings.

Does somebody know what MusicPlaySwitch is? Does it add a play/pause switch on keboard? (something I miss from my prevoius laptop)
I tried installing GC with it set both on 1 or 0 and haven't noticed differences.

 

Hi, could you please tell me the exact sizes of the screws? I want to order them, for the heatsink and fans, they are very tight and I used a low-quality driver and stripped them. I need to do a repaste soon. I want to buy a new set of screws, I am not sure what size/code they are. Thanks

 

Very interesting heres my FS scores: 2070 MQ with OC +150 +600 considering its the MQ You're getting 3000 more points basically, not sure how much that amounts to in real life gaming .

 

Are the RTX models a worthwhile purchase in a laptop.

Early reviews showing the Max Q don't have many gains over the GTX versions.

What's the opinion in person.

 

Yes its true that they aren't much of an upgrade coming from the Pascal gen of cards unless if you go for the non-max-q variant. The way I see it is I went from a big laptop with a 1070 to a MUCH thinner and smaller laptop but yet still a little bit better performance (sometimes better sometimes less) and I have the 2070 MQ. My firestrike score is higher than a 1070 laptop I believe according to Notebookcheck.

However the RTX cards show their strength at higher resolution gaming, 1440p is where you see a bigger gap imo. I'm playing Apex legends at 1440p around the 90-100 FPS range at 1440p. Granted its not the most demanding game and i tweaked a couple of settings.

Overall for a chip with a 80W power budget I think its pretty impressive. Many crap all over Max-Q and I tend to agree mostly but we are getting laptops as thin and portable as ultrabooks used to be not that long ago and to me thats a nice upgrade

 

Yea I'm looking at it and the 2070 in 15.6 packaging seems like a good offering.

Would the i7-8750H be sufficient for the RTX series or would the i7-9s coming out in a couple of months give any possible benefits?

Like get one now or wait and see what prices get into.

 

The 8750H is a great cpu, people kept going on about how good it is and now I see why. It does require a little bit of tweaking to run at full potential but its easy

We don't know anything yet about the 9th gen cpus but if they are still at 14nm I don't know how they are going to make it work in a laptop without reducing clocks dramatically which means we might see less performance in games.

I would have no problem getting the 8750H now unless you rely on cpu intensive apps and need the extra horsepower the new cpus might be able to deliver. Maybe someone knows here if we are finally getting 10nm with the next gen laptop chips but on the desktop the 9th gens are all 14nm still so...

 

From what I've heard laptops get 10nm next fall maybe? Which comes with a whole other architecture update so its been said. Though that's all suspect for the most part given delays and such.

 

This is not to bad in comparison to a full 1070 laptop. I'm sure I could get it to 7000 with a bit more tweaking. What you guys think considering I'm still stuck on the 417.49 drivers


EDIT: I have since flashed to a 90W TDP bios and getting much higher scores

 

In some games there are supersampling options that would allow you to squeeze more out of RTX using a 1080p screen. Not as good as true 1440p but noticeably better than regular 1080p IMO.

Just looking at these Firestrike scores strengthens the case immensely for the 17” version over the 15”. But I’m not extremely mobile like I have been in the past and can get away more comfortably with the larger chassis.

Found 16GB 2666Mhz HyperX RAM for $111.18 new. Purchased here with coupon code: FEBSAVE19

 

My 15" OP-LP2 laptop scored scored 5,422 on the Time Spy benchmark, and that was with the GTX-1060 6GB @ 1080p, so I can't complain. (i7-8750H CPU)

 

Big NEWS!

I have successfully flashed the 90W TDP Bios of the 2070 MQ razer blade 15 onto my 2070 MQ.

Its working great so far, still testing will report back with benchs results.

Interesting how now the device manager reports it as RTX 2070 (no max-q in sight)

This might also allow me to finally update the drivers!

EDIT: FS score is 19300 thats much better already. Trying to OC now but GPU utilisation is hitting 93-94% we are hitting cpu bottleneck

 

1st TimeSpy run. It's now beating a GTX 1080 laptop?

 

Dam thats insane, how are thermals?

 

Is the cooler different than the 15" GTX 1060 model? I'm wondering if it is more beefy than the previous model, and if it is possible to use it on the previous model. I'm guessing it is just the same.

 

It's the same, most likely just thermal compound tweaks

 

That's really good, I wish there was an i9 or i7 8850h + RTX 2070, we could see something even more crazy. RTX 2080 Max-q is about 7900 points for TimeSpy, you already beaten the RTX 2080 Max-q for Fire Strike based on these results: https://www.techwalls.com/nvidia-rtx-2080-rtx-2080-max-q-gpu-comparison/

 

How did you do that?

 

They're really, weirdly good. I'm scratching my head guys, they seem a little better?? wft?

@heraldo_jones with a twist of lemon and a pinch of salt lol. The razer blade 15 RTX 2070 90W bios is available at techpowerup the rest I'd rather not let everyone know here and go ahead bricking they're expensive new laptop and blaming me! lol

After more testing if I feel its totally bulletproof then sure. Tbh, its VERY easy anyone can do it with a bit of research, you just need the 90W bios and nvflash.

 

Thanks for pioneering these Recoil II tweaks Zill. Great scores :O

I'm actually also impressed by your stock(?) Time Spy score of 6971. Is that on the 'default' settings? I think 8750h/GTX1070 laptops score around mid-5000s.

How are you finding the screen? No eye fatigue or strain or anything...?

And is the keyboard still weird for you?

Also - I don't suppose you're able to test VR on this laptop?

 

Yes the 90W bios seems to work just fine on the Recoil 2, its nice to unlock a bit of extra juice!

That TimeSpy score was stock but overclocked. Any 2070 Max-Q should be able to score around the same out of the box with an OC on it.

The screen is great, no eye fatigue but I have been using my 1440p monitor a lot as well so best check with others too

I actually love how the keyboard feels, I think I prefer it to my mechanical Drevo desktop keyboard its just not good at registering 2 very fast keystrokes and it still happens from time to time. I don't think its my keyboard its just something with the design but a lot of people don't have this issue because well I guess they don't type as fast!

I don't have any VR capable gear so sorry can't test

 

Not sure how you got 5000+ on Time Spy with a GTX 1060. Average score is under 4000.

Awesome news @Zill A CPU bottleneck on the i7 8750h is pretty insane. Finally a GPU that can utilize an i9.

 

Ok so since the vbios flash I can't plug in my monitor via mini DP. Could be because the Razer blade 15 has only 1 mini DP ports and we have 2 so its getting confused or my cable is dead which is not uncommon with mini dp cables and could explain the troubles I was having with it booting weird when cable was plugged in even when it was stock

HDMI is fine tho

Will order new mini dp cable and test

 

if you still have the rtx vbios that it came with, could open both vbioses up and compare codes to nail the issue. Will take some time of though.

 

Does this happen when stress testing or just when lightly loaded? If your CPU can run at full speed when stress testing then no worries.

This type of throttling is typically related to the current limit. Try increasing the PP0 Current Limit and IccMax values up to 192 and see if this goes away.

 

You can try flashing my nonMaxq Bios
115 TDP
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/208302/208302

We should have the same featureset.

 

Working on it, thought I wanted start slowly with the 90W first I'm just worried that maybe the vrms on the 17inch were beefed up but I doubt it

 

SOTTR
-Highest preset with 80W bios: 77 FPS
-With 90W bios: 89 FPS

Damn, I HAVE to get this mini DP port issue fixed!

 

I think its because my laptop doesnt support dp 1.4 and the razer blade 15 does, so I think I'm screwed

 

I just thought of something else to check, regarding the display. Zill - would you mind checking another thing for me please?

If you go Device Manager, then expand ‘monitors’, then right-click > properties on ‘Generic PnP monitor’, then go to the ‘details’ tab, then click on ‘device description’ (it’s a drop-down), then click Hardware IDs. Would you telling me what that says?

Thanks again!

 

Hi, I thought I already mentioned it to you? Here its the BOE07AF. Its on panelook.com somewhere its pretty nice but I think we determined it had your dreaded PWM eye strain problem.

You can easily change the panel for something else if it its really holding you back

 

I wonder what those guys at top 5 are doing to get that level of performance. Wonder if anyone can contact them.
https://www.3dmark.com/search#/?mod...NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 (Notebook)&gpuCount=0

 

Oh NO! I was over zealous with the throttlestop undervolt and crashed my system. It rebooted but the undervolt stuck so it crashes everytime as soon as Throttlestop loads at login. I had to boot into SAFE mode to manually remove Throttlestop in order to finish booting up.

Then I deleted the configuration file and I re-set all the settings. Everything is back to normal.

 

Just delete the ThrottleStop.ini file in the throttlestop directory.

 

You are 100% right, Installed64. I screwed up. That 5,422 was on my desktop system - a Dell mini-tower desktop with an i7-3770K CPU and a GTX-1070 8GB (Black Edition).

My apologies. My OP-LP2 laptop with the GTX-1060 6GB GPU scored 3,971

 

@Trevayne10 No worries! I mainly was curious to know either if my system was seriously underperforming or if you had a secret to getting the higher score. My score is around 3,900 at stock clocks.

 

Would this work on the Eluktronics Mech-17? You wouldn't be willing to make a tutorial or video on this would you? I haven't really messed with cmd prompt admin at all. I'd really like to do this but I'm having a hard time tracking.

Thanks!

 

I tried to set it so that the button would toggle to Turbo mode as I've been after knowing on how to do this, the commands worked but it's still just toggling between office mode and game mode..?

Weird, I must have a different version of gaming center? Its the one that came with the 15 RTX chassis from PCSpecialist

 

Do you guys know if the bios for the 15 and 17 are the same?

Especially for the new RTX chassis but if its the case for previous gen it would be good to know as well

 

Different BIOS = Different Button functionality.
I think Tongfang decided to change the button functionality on newer BIOSes for GTX models.

 

@custom90gt is there a way to look up Company Representatives on the members search? I wonder if I can get a hold of more companies that sell the 15" and/or 17" chassis.

 

Oh well, I hope I didn't mess sometging up. Everything seems to be working as if I hadn't done anything so I'm not gonna worry about it...

 

Sadly I do not know of a way, but I will ask if there is a list of reps.

 

@ezradharma you should check this discord channel ( https://discord.gg/sdFTfF)
I got a lot of information and help from them including this list:

Since TongFang's naming schemes suck, we have a list of known decent rebrands of this unit below (if a shop should be avoided it won't be on this list):
- China(?): MechRevo "Deep Sea Ghost Z2"
- EU/Germany: XMG "Neo 15"
- Italy: Raiontech "Raionbook GS5"
- Malaysia: Illegear "Onyx"
- Netherlands: LaptopParts4Less (sold under original TongFang designation)
- Poland: Hyperbook "Pulsar Z15" (cheaper 1050ti option available)
- Poland: Xtreem "Smart7 Kallisto GX15D"
- Singapore: Aftershock "Apex-15"
- Turkey: Monster "Tulpar T5"
- UK: Scan/3XS "LG15 Vengeance Pro"
- USA: Eluktronics "Mech 15 G2"
- USA: HIDevolution "EVOC 16GK5"
- USA: Walmart "Overpowered 15+"

There is a specific channel for resellers, where you can talk for instance with the eluktronics CEO and some other representatives.

 

Has anyone come across a reputable source for decals for this chassis? Like a DBrand?

I want a geometric camo decal for the lid. LOL

 

The only difference between the 2070 MQ and "full fat" when reading their firmware info that I can see is the board ID. Is this to make cross flashing more difficult or do the boards have a physical difference? That is the question.

After some research nvidia introduced the board id so that it can be queried through code by an app ( i.e game) to better identify the gpu so that the game can run appropriate settings or check that it has the minimum requirements to run the game. This was traditionally done via windows and of course did not always work so customers would have the latest and greatest gpu from nvidia and the game would not run because it detected the system was running an ancient gpu instead.

This is good news and makes sense, devs can then have a game profile for the 2070 MQ with lower settings and another with slightly better settings when identifying the MaxP model.

To bother making a different board just for a 35W difference makes no sense to me especially when we know how good modern VRMs are and what they can handle. There's very little that is stopping me from flashing the 115W vbios now I just would like visual confirmation that the MXM module are identical for peace of mind.

It could also be a different board layout and I could fry everything

I will use the discord channel above in the hope of finding close up pics of the board just for peace of mind and probably go ahead and flash

Warning: I do not recommend anyone trying this, I'm just sharing my findings of my journey towards more fps in a small package

Sign-On Message : MaxQ SKU 30 VGA BIOS
Build GUID : C21159EFC86149DA8D54AC769D4F2771
IFR Subsystem ID : 0000-0000
Subsystem Vendor ID : 0x0000
Subsystem ID : 0x0000
Version : 90.06.2D.40.32
Image Hash : D18AC170C00D8DB71C37E0FB30B94C74
Product Name : GPU Board
Device Name(s) : Graphics Device
Board ID : 0x00E5
Vendor ID : 0x10DE
Device ID : 0x1F10
Hierarchy ID : Normal Board
Chip SKU : 750-0
Project : 4914-0030-Q
Build Date : 11/20/18
Modification Date : 01/03/19
UEFI Version : 0x5000A
UEFI Variant ID : 0x0000000000000009 ( Unknown )
UEFI Signer(s) : Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011
XUSB-FW Version ID : 0x70090003
XUSB-FW Build Time : 2018-10-04 18:36:30
InfoROM Version : G001.0000.02.04
InfoROM Backup : Present
License Placeholder : Present
GPU Mode : N/A


Sign-On Message : MaxP SKU 30 VGA BIOS
Build GUID : 1DAAF00D867C48519347CCD43D351CD0
IFR Subsystem ID : 0000-0000
Subsystem Vendor ID : 0x0000
Subsystem ID : 0x0000
Version : 90.06.2D.40.31
Image Hash : 6299ACB025CD81377DF01F29F0B4B0F9
Product Name : GPU Board
Device Name(s) : Graphics Device
Board ID : 0x00E6
Vendor ID : 0x10DE
Device ID : 0x1F10
Hierarchy ID : Normal Board
Chip SKU : 750-0
Project : 4914-0030-P
Build Date : 11/20/18
Modification Date : 01/03/19
UEFI Version : 0x5000A
UEFI Variant ID : 0x0000000000000009 ( Unknown )
UEFI Signer(s) : Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011
XUSB-FW Version ID : 0x70090003
XUSB-FW Build Time : 2018-10-04 18:36:30
InfoROM Version : G001.0000.02.04
InfoROM Backup : Present
License Placeholder : Present
GPU Mode : N/A

 

If anyone wants to ask questions on the forum with Illegear Reps, https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4577650
They seems to have a bit more information on the TF laptop and a ton of reps who can answer respond.

 

Jesus thats loud, you have the OP 15 or 17?

My OP 17 has a little bit of coil whine when the processor goes to turbo, which I dont mind because previous laptops ive had like the Acer Aspire 7 or HP Omen 15 had really loud coil whine. If you disable turbo boost in throttlestop the coil whine stops.

NOT as loud as yours tho, yes that metallic sound doesnt sound right.

 

I sometimes have this sound too. BUt it's really rare (maybe happened 5 or 6 times since I have this laptop) and it stops after 5 minuts to 1 hour. But I cannot figure out any redondant use when it happens. I was just pluged in, and I believe it happened both when idle or when gaming. I hope this noise will not become more present with days...

 

I noticed there is a buzz when my speakers are set to 0% (/off). I don't know if it is the same problem