TONGFANG GK5CN5Z / GK5CN6Z / GK5CQ7Z / GK5CP0Z

The bottom side is towards the battery. The one with the spring is the main one I placed a piece of foil under, and the ones below to the left and right to first one are the ones I loosened.

 

I bought the black carbon fiber, do you know how the quality is?

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-update-ruins-gaming-performance,38761.html

 

Thank you, I found on another forum someone that was saying that one possible cause is Logitech mouse.
Anyway I'm happy it's a known issue and I'm not the only one, I hope microsoft will fix it soon.

 

Mine tops out at 74.7w when running TS Bench in ThrottleStop. I followed various info on this forum to tweak ThrottleStop to my own preferences (i.e. I have various profiles configured depending on what I'm doing: gaming, internet browsing, power saving).

 

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I'm not able to push more than 67.2 whatever I do

 

If it's from the same company as my AW15 skin, the cuts are correct for the most part, just it's cut more than a dbrand skin to make it easier to apply to areas with a curve or an indent. It's not sticky as a 3M skin for the most part, and it isn't very similar to actual carbon fiber since those skins that are like 5d/7d carbon fiber looking are thicker and harder to bend. It is easy to peel off once you're done with the skin, no remaining sticky glue.

 

Have you used the OEMSERVICE app to set your powerpack as 180w?

Here are my TS settings - maybe they will help you?

 

This is with the Stock Thermal Paste and the Stock 16gb... I have to turn the undervolt back to -.125 in order for firefox to stop crashing, but besides that, I have no issues gaming or anything else. Been really debating the dual channel setup, but I haven't been having any issues.

 

The power consumption reported by Intel CPUs is just an estimation based on the VID voltage. It is not actual power consumption. If your CPU can run reliably at less reported voltage, it will report less power consumption. That is a good thing. As long as your CPU can run all your apps at full speed without any throttling then there is nothing to worry about.

Look at the TS screenshots posted by @Big Mack. The CPU is fully loaded and all threads are reporting the maximum 39.00 multiplier. That is the holy grail with any laptop that uses the 8750H CPU. Some Dell, Asus and Razer folk could learn a thing or two.

 

Hello,


I have the current set: BIOS 1.06 - EC 1.24.09 - Illegear - GK5CN 5Z.

Where can I get the EC 1.33.09 for GK5CN5Z ? I want to update to the last BIOS to:

BIOS 1.02 - EC 1.33.09 - OverPowered - GK5CN5Z only (auto batch - no EC upgrade !)

But there is no EC provided, can take the EC from:

BIOS 1.05 - EC 1.35.09 - OverPowered - GK5CN6Z / OP-LP2 (Auto batch)

Any support would be appreciated.

 

Hi folks,



As a completely banal and non-tech related side note, has any OP owner tried removing this "OVERPOWERED" branding? I'm guessing acetone could do the trick, but I don't want to risk tarnishing or otherwise damaging the underlying black paint on the aluminum cover. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

 

Just dropping by for a quick look-see and wow has the thread exploded lol.

I'm still soldering on with my Oynx with that very first unthrottled MR BIOS I was supplied with by our big man Prema (despite some sleep related bluescreens and stuff I'm just not bothered to fix) but otherwise the thing is chugging on nicely with everything I care to throw at it (within reason). Afraid of flashing any newer BIOSes simply because I don't wanna create more issues to have to fix later.

The fact that the stock battery is so small (and I still need that spinner drive) means that I to had outsource mobile work to a new laptop though. That tanky 180w adapter the GK5CN 1060 needs doesn't help it any either lol... but as a "mobile when it needs to be" workstation it's working rather well.

Had to get myself a svelte Envy 13 WL-U just for "work" but that thing ain't gonna chomp through Exodus and FO4 like my GK5CN can, fer sure - but after coming back to a numpad-less "compact" keyboard I'm starting to think that going full-size on the GK5CN might not have been the best idea TBH.

And hey there @unclewebb! Infinite thanks for TS, I don't know what I'll do without it TBH and I obsessively install it in any laptop I own that has a proc I can tinker with.

@lKinder_Bueno Holy crap man an entire fan manager app. Wicked! Will try it out.

If you can figure out a program to hook into the KBB lights it'll be pretty nice too (though I know it's easier said), as there might be a couple of interesting things you can do with that - like Num/Capslock changing color when pressed or something, or custom per-app colour maps.

 

Will you need a hair dryer to apply it?

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There's the option of "translucent" CF vinyl too you know guys, which was what covered mine with... as it was black to begin with and covering a black laptop with black CF seems a bit, superfluous. TransCF makes it look stock with a subtle CF sheen to it which I find to be quite nice.

But YMMV, some people do like "debrand-ing" and I can't anything about that.

That said, can't seem to find any pre-cutters doing TransCF though, so you probably have to get a roll off eBay and go to town with art knives and cutters on your own as I had to lol.

 

Has anyone tried cinebench 20 Release ?

 

Here is my first run of it;

 

Hi, mine is just 2435 cb. Do you have dual channel ram ? And what is your cpu tdp ? Thanks !

 

I remember @lKinder_Bueno saying that the keyboard lighting implementation was crapy as you can only say "use breathing mode with these colors" without adding your very own mode. You still have the custom "user mode" which remains static. So Num/Capslock changing color when pressed would be awesome but if it is possible it would imply lighting always on and in "custom/user mode" altered in real time but I imagine it could be laggy and ressource intensive...

Here's mine, with 2*8GB dual channel Corsair CL18 2666MHz RAM, and Cinebench task priority set to real time:


And I get around 76W PKG usage (BUT see this post from @unclewebb saying that displayed PKG power in TS is not accurate and might be buggy):

 

For the most part no, unless you have a part of the skin that has a bend that the skin won't stick, then you'll need to use a hair dryer to get the correct bend.

 

Stock thermals and stock 16gb ram, run in real-time and -.250 core -.125 cache

 

This package power number is not measured power consumption. It is only an estimation of power consumption that Intel calculates within the CPU. The sole purpose of this number is to control the turbo boost function and that is all.

All monitoring software, including ThrottleStop, can accurately display this data. The package power number is not the same as measured power consumption so I recommend not using it for any sort of comparison between different CPUs. It's just a number.

 

My cb score seems to be the lowest .. and my tdp get stuck to 20W, very poor even for a single channel I guess

 

People with these laptops that know how to use ThrottleStop are not having these problems. Some of the highest 8750H bench scores on the planet have been obtained by users in this thread. Look at the results above posted by @Blebleuh

His CPU is fully loaded and all threads are reporting a steady 39.00 multiplier. That is max speed for the 8750H when all 6 cores are active. No throttling and temperatures, considering the load, are great.

No need to be sad. Get to work. Use ThrottleStop and get your laptop properly setup.

Edit - I read one of your previous posts and saw that you are using Intel XTU. I have not seen any of the top performing laptops in this thread using XTU. It does not have options available to achieve maximum performance. Do not use it.

Most performance oriented gaming laptops perform poorly on battery power. A battery that fits in a laptop is not capable of running an Intel CPU and an Nvidia GPU at their full rated speeds.

 

Yes dual channel 2400 hyperx ram. I just used @unclewebb ts suggestions and it will not throttle anymore!

 

also, you need to set priority of CB20 to "real time" to achieve those scores, I'm single channel ram but I have throttlestop dialed in thanks to everyone in this thread.

 

how

I think I ran the latest app by XMG to do so, how do I know if its applied? also, hows the heat?

 

Thanks all for advices and posting own bench

Ok I'll try. Do you have a simple guide to start with TS ?

 

Google it or look at the link under unclewebbs's signature. Look up videos on youtube and read through this thread to look at screenshots of settings. Don't be lazy and ask people to spoonfeed you the winning lottery numbers....

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/

 

I think Notebookcheck's TS Tut is also easy to follow TBH, but for folks actually looking for "precise", "tailored" GK5CN instructions - well, the simple fact is that when it comes to UVing processors... there are no real hard and fast rule about what values "work" as the silicon lottery is pretty real (not all procs UV the same).

I mean, if one guy with 8750H can do -0.125mv dynamic, you might not be able to (or might be able to do more). Hence the reluctance to share any "good setups" as what works for me might not for you.

Otherwise that linked Tut (or NBC's Tut) is a pretty good place to start IMHO.

Also, Imma thinking that some of the BIOSes floating around for the GK5CN series (especially those straight from China) does have some funky things going around in terms of power throttling and whatnot, but eyyy, I haven't checked all of them so I'm not really sure.

 

You only need to scroll back a couple of pages to find some TS settings.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...gk5cq7z-gk5cp0z.815943/page-391#post-10877162

NBR also has a great search feature.


Edit the top box and put in what you are looking for. If you do not want to see anything that I have suggested, use a different user name. Preferably someone that has posted some nice bench scores and knows what they are doing.

 

I have problem with msi afterburner voltage curve. I modify my original curve it work while using gpu-z's render test but running heaven benchmark or far cry 5 gpu goes back to the original curve.
https://imgur.com/a/mqfhAgr

im not sure what to do i might have set something wrong since its my first time doing this.

I also tried a more conservative curve than in the pictures by just lovering the voltages it still didnt matter.

Edit: I did some more test and it seems to relate to gpu usage. While doing render test gpu usage is around %88-89 but in heaven bench or far cry five usage is %97-98 with clock speed fluctuating. Is there a way yo bypass whatever this is.

Edit 2.0: scratch edit 1 problem is due to gpu boost 3 implementation on pascal cards by nvidia. Used Msi AB auto overclock feature to OC works fine.

 

Check out page 109 in this thread..

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/tongfang-gk5cn5z-gk5cn6z-gk5cq7z-gk5cp0z.815943/page-109

 

Did you just undervolt or also overclock cpu ?
I read some who can't restore default setting with TS, even after they unisnstalled .. maybe they wrong something, I dont'know, just read

 

Thanks for mentioning this @unclewebb. Actually here is a direct search URL that can be bookmarked, which uses the search keyword 'the' instead for all of your posts here. I believe it is quite helpful.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sea...ost&o=date&c[user][0]=296710&c[thread]=815943

[edit] it's necessary to use the advanced search page, to actually order results chronologically. Instead of by keyword relevance / best match.

 

The 8750H is not overclockable.

This cannot be stressed enough, but EACH cpu is different in their abilities and what can and cannot be done to maintain stable conditions.

For my particular one, Undervolting the CPU core -.125 was stable all day, and -.250 for benching was fine with no system crash, I only had other programs crash and need to be refreshed.

CPU cache seems to be stable on "almost" everyone here at -.125, as many including myself have seen bluescreens or straight system crash at any value more.

Speedshift - EPP needs to be enabled a different way on this using Throttlestop by going into the TPL tab and enabling it (I have mine set to enable when TS starts and also have TS loading on each boot). Min value at 1 and Max at 255 (Range 1 - 41). In that same tab, I use this setup...



These are my stable settings for my machine under FVIR...



The main thing is the "Disable and Lock Turbo Power Limits" needs to be checked, and you most likely will need to install a seperate file to have it work correctly the first run, which Throttlestop will walk you through the first time you enable this.

As far as resetting any values that didn't work with my system.... The easiest way for me way to simply delete the throttlestop.ini file in the folder where throttlestop was installed to (obviously without TS running) and boot into the BIOS and then Load the base setup and reboot (I forget what exactly the terminology was in the BIOS because I haven't had to do that in a very long time once I got an idea of what was going on).


I tried XTU on this machine and had nowhere near as good of results as I have using Throttlestop. Great work @unclewebb and thanks for all the support you have been giving through the forums alone.

 

Thanks em0ney for sharing your settings ! Just a question: I saw you get up your watt (turbo boost power max) to 85-95 (rectify me if I'm wrong), but you also undervolt to 0.125V. Why did you slow down the voltage if you want more power on cpu ?

 

As far as the Turbo Boost settings, on 55/65 I get a lot of power limit throttling and a lot of decreased performance because of it. Increasing the windows removed the PL1 and PL2 throttling I was having.
Undervolting help decrease the thermal throttling so I can maintain higher frequency at lower temps. -.125 on the core is stable for me for almost everything with little to no thermal throttling, and -.250 was better for benching.

 

A bit off topic but I wonder if this holds true with the M3-7Y30 on my GPD Win 2 - where the "configurable TDP" is actually an option. People say TS doesn't work as well as XTU with the Win 2 and I was wondering why that was the case.

Also, my Envy 13t i7-8565U WL-U and its myriad of HP imposed throttling (especially if I can figure out what HP's "Thermal Profiles" actually do)... though boosting that thing might be a bit too much for that poor single fan setup.

However, being able to adjust whatever the HP Profile settings tweak through TS without having to deal with HP's stuff might be interesting TBH.

 

CineBench R20 benchmark now available, is 8x more demanding than CineBench R15:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/CineB...re-demanding-than-CineBench-R15.413751.0.html

 

Posting this, in case someone else is experiencing a weird boost in temps on the CPU.
For a few days I noticed that my CPU is running much hotter than before, which I blamed on fan profile quirk (fans seemed to only really kick in after 80c, despite me messing with the settings trying to get them kicking in as early as possible). Eventually I ruled out the fans as even with fan on turbo 90c would be reached in 10 seconds of running TSBench, so I figured my CPU needs to be repasted again.
I repasted, and whilst temps were few degrees lower, they were still abnormally high (I could previously run TSBench with temps remaining in the 70s for most of the run, now with CPU being idle it sat around 65c), so I reset my bios to default and voila temps back to normal again... Also my battery life has jumped up by a few hours, all of which points to voltages.
Must admit this is a bit odd (not seen this behaviour on any other laptop I've owned) and this is the second time this happened... the only thing I can think that could had caused this was me re-installing the latest GamingCentre version which I did a few weeks back... my only guess is that GamingCentre must write some data into bios, which may occasionally mess up CPU voltages.
So if you are experiencing high temps whilst idle, fans not turning on or unusually low battery life try resetting your bios, just in case.

 

Clevo's Dashboard used to come with XTU bundled together along with it... so it's not a stretch that the Command Center might also have something similar along with the ride - if not now maybe somewhere along in the future.

 

Has anyone had any luck with VFIO pass-through of the GPU to a VM with Qemu / KVM? I got it to the point of the GPU installing the the nvidia driver but I'm getting code 43 so I'm wondering if anyone here has gotten it to work. I flashed the modded bios on 1.0.5 OP-2 Bios and the GPU vbios only seems to support BIOS mode as the vbios has no EFI support for some reason. Hopefully one of the settings in the modded bios can help (probably a pipe dream)

 

Happened to me too. I upgraded the bios and the temps went up so I repasted but it didn't work so I reinstalled XTU. That worked. But the temps are back up again. I will try reset to default in the bios and optimize F3.

 

I don't blame the guy asking for a Throttle Stop guide for this laptop because there are several floating around on here. It difficult to know which one is best. There is a lot of posts about all the various settings, one of them being the ICCMAX. When I played with this, it caused my system to freeze. May be it was another setting but I leave it alone now and I haven't had a freeze.

Another guy has the turbo power set to 85 and 95 in the TPL screen. I think this lets more current and voltage into the cpu. I guess its great if you have the thermal headroom. Isn't the default 55 and 65? I've seen 55 and 78 too. Someone clarify this?

There's also the turbo boost time. Default is 58 seconds, some people set this to 6? Does it even matter? In XTU you can max this out at 96. I have no idea what to set it at.

In short, we need someone who knows what they are doing to do a tutorial for this laptop.

My average guy settings:
Main screen, check speedshift epp and set it to 84.
check C1E. Everything else unchecked.
Make sure it's on, there's an on button in the middle of the bottom.

FIVR screen:
undervolt -0.125 in the cpu and cache
(I didn't bother with the disable turbo lock)

TPL screen:
enable speedshift checked both boxes.

I'm sure someone else can provide their setup including screen caps.

 

@em0ney14 posted some screenshots on the previous page.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...gk5cq7z-gk5cp0z.815943/page-394#post-10878599

If your CPU is stable, you should be able to adjust the IccMax value back and forth without your CPU locking up. This could be a sign that your offset voltage is set too aggressively and your CPU is not 100% stable when lightly loaded. An offset voltage that is fine when fully loaded might not be enough voltage when the CPU is idle. That is why the TS Bench test allows you to vary the number of threads tested. Zero your offset voltage and only adjust IccMax and see what happens. That will isolate IccMax.

The TONGFANG laptops have pretty good cooling compared to many on the market. If the CPU is not overheating, I would increase all of the various power limits sky high to avoid any throttling. If it is overheating, replace the thermal paste. If the CPU needs 80 Watts to run at full speed, you can set the turbo power limits to 100 Watts or 200 Watts or 1000 Watts. These limits will slow your CPU down if they are set too low. Too high is not a problem.

@em0ney14 knows what he is doing. The screenshot he posted shows that he cranked IccMax all the way up to 255.75. Perfect. Now he is guaranteed that this will not cause any throttling. There are no perfect values. Set the Long and Short turbo power limits high to avoid throttling. The Intel default turbo time limit is 28 seconds for many of their mobile CPUs. This gives a user some control over approximately how long the CPU will run at the short term power limit before it switches to the long term limit.

Usually, it does not matter. The important settings can be found on the previous page. Do some testing, make adjustments and draw your own conclusions about what matters and what does not matter. Try things out in ThrottleStop. Do not be afraid to click on something or make a change to one of the power limits. If it does not solve your problem or make your computer run faster or cooler then there is no reason to use that feature.

Instead of a guide, if you are new to ThrottleStop, download Cinebench, put a load on your CPU and then start adjusting the various power limits and watch to see how that changes your CPU speed. The goal is to be able to run Cinebench without your 8750H overheating or the multiplier dropping below 39.00. Open up Limit Reasons and watch for any signs of throttling. Limit Reasons is your guide. It will show you what limit needs to be increased to avoid throttling. Reduce the CPU core and cache voltages and see if that reduces your full load CPU temps. There is an almost 1000 page ThrottleStop thread on NBR that covers almost every question imaginable. Search that thread, search this thread and do some hands on testing. That is the best way to learn ThrottleStop.

 

Op 15+ back in stock: https://www.walmart.com/ip/OVERPOWE...256-SSD-1TB-HDD-16GB-RAM-Windows-10/510869060

8:49 PM EST (29? not sure in stock)
9:08 PM EST 15 left in stock
9:23 PM EST Out of stock, will update tomorrow if it goes back in stock

 

I just jumped on this deal after getting fed up with my 5 year old laptop. Is there a step by step guide on how to undervolt this laptop and by how much?

 

You can search this thread on the top right and type throttlestop, check this thread only and see what other people have gotten with this configuration.
If you want a general guide for the 8750h, check out @B0B 's guide here:

 

I'm getting my OP 15+ tomorrow, what are the first things I should do once I get it?

So far I plan on downloading the drivers from OP website. Do I need the gaming center app?

Then I'm going to download throttlestop and use emoney's settings.

I plan on upgrading to dual channel later down the line.


Anything else I'm missing?