TONGFANG GK7CN6S / GK7CP0S / GK7CP7S

When you are playing at 76-100 FPS as you said, I imagine you have vsync off. Do you notice and screen tearing or ghosting? Trying to figure out how necessary a gsync monitor is

 

Vsync is off I believe. And no, no tearing or ghosting. Gsync is obviously nice to have but this laptop plays just fine without it.

 

Yeah, gsync and thunderbolt are the only things missing. But the low thermals are very appealing to me. My current laptop sounds like a jet engine so I’m looking for something that cools easily. Really between this and the PB71 clevo which isn’t out yet. I guess thunderbolt would mostly come in handy if I ever got a eGPU, but with a 2070 and a 1080p monitor there’d probably be no reason to.

 

The 2070 paired with the 1080p screen will keep this gpu relevant for at least 3 years. Lack of thunderbolt support should never be an issue if you plan on using the laptop display. Besides, I've always just leaned towards having a desktop instead of the whole egpu route.

 

Think they'll have any versions with the GTX 1660 Ti? Or is that some kinda replaced 2050?

 

Hey, here is a noob question. Could we somehow use Aero 15's 94Whr battery or any other higher capacity battery (more than 62WHr as well) in this? If it can't be done for a reason other than the physical size, could someone explain why?

 

Eluktronics offers a 4-Cell 62.36Wh Polymer upgrade option and have said they are looking for larger types that would fit. It removes the 2.5 drive space.

 

Thanks for the answer, I know about 62WHr.
I don't know much about batteries so was wondering why we can't use any other battery hence the second part of my question. Do no other batteries fit physically, has no one tried any others or are other batteries not compatible with electric requirements of this laptop? I'm just curious.

 

I'd say it's compatible batteries with the main board as Bob of All Trades noted you have to make sure it's the accurate to the model when ordering. So it may be voltage and sizes that fit into this chassis.

 

So that is all the information about this, huh. Seeing the Aero 15's battery size gives me hope of getting an even bigger capacity battery for this laptop in the future. Hope it'll be available soon because that is the only reason I'm not sure of buying this. But 17 inch and full 2070 of this laptop is unresistable. I'll wait a bit more for any developments on this.
Thanks again!

 

Check in with Eluktronics. They may have information on larger battery prospects

 

@Nicat93 Why not get a low TDP CPU if you want battery life? The 8550u/8650u seem like powerful options. When using the 8750h on battery you are automatically power limit throttling your CPU anyway. And gaming on battery power is useless. The logical solution for most people is to get a cheap laptop with awesome battery life for word processing and web browsing, and spend the balance on a nice desktop computer to do your heavy lifting.

Otherwise, I am curious to hear your reasoning behind needing such a powerful system with long battery life. This beast is certainly powerful though, and I would love to get my hands on the 2070 model.

 

Well, I'm going to do multiple things with it. Game development (including VR), video rendering, might even do some modelling/texture baking, and of course some gaming (again including VR), oh lets not forget about all the crazy emulators in development and I want to do all of these without getting stuck to the same chair I've been sitting on for ~8 years (well, I do get up occasionally ). So I want - or need at this point - all the power I can get, with the most comfortable option. Also, a weak laptop + PC won't work because I'll need a powerful machine frequently due to the stuff I'll do and will move a lot (not between countries though, isn't quite there yet). Although I'll probably be able to use a power outlet at least using a long cord most of the time. Still I've been forced to use a laptop for some time due to... reasons which will happen again, I really hated having to worry about battery, so I just want to get it down to minimum, also just seeing how Aero 15 managed to include that 94WHr battery in such a small case I'm just getting greedy, haha.

Even if we don't get a bigger battery, I'll still probably buy this unless a laptop comes out with which is similar to this + bigger capacity battery.

Thanks for taking your time, one more reason I'm considering this laptop is the community it has managed to gather

 

Another way to get increase battery life while enabling full performance, you could get one of those: https://www.anker.com/deals/powerhouse2 Don't think it's the best way to go but it works, just the bulk of bringing a powerhouse and a charger will increase the load.

 

@Nicat93 All of the above are great reasons to have a high-powered laptop. And it sure is nice to know that you have the option to pick up and move to a new location easily - I am all about that.

In practice it seems that I’m not really all that mobile after all, and typically stay tethered to the wall whether at home, at work, or out and about. It sounds like you may be similar, so battery life may not end up being an issue after all. Will still be interesting to see if a bigger battery is abailable, but having the 4 cell is at least better than the 3 cell. I like having the smaller battery to allow for my HDD though.

 

Has anyone tried making a custom bios? I am sick and tired of Overpower support they are no help and their bios has disabled lighting on my laptop. I also can't seem to install other ones as it not as simple as running the f.bat LUCKILY the Rev 2 gaming center made by someone in this forums have managed to turn my lighting back on but the whole reason it stopped working caused of their 1.08 bios.

 

I'll try to get a hold of another company rep. to send us another BIOS link just for 15" GTX

 

Anyone attempted to replace the screen with a 1440p 120hz panel? Would be nice to know if that's a possible upgrade path.

 

So looking over this what is a good size for the OS Systems only Drive?

Going with a 2k budget to assemble a good working media laptop and social (online FPS/MMO) gaming machine.

How easy is it to open this up and add drives and such?

 

128 is totally reasonable for a system drive if it's nvme. (it's what I currently use) It's also extremely easy to open the laptop and add more storage.

I installed a 1tb crucial M.2 and a third 1tb Samsung Evo 860 in the sata bay in about ten minutes. So in terms of ease of access it's not bad at all. Lots of screws but nothing difficult to deal with.

 

Wow, that price is ridiculous Might need it for serious outages (and camping, I probably won't do), thanks for pointing out.

Yeah, you are correct about mostly being tethered. Still, an option would be awesome to have a bigger capacity for ease of mind. About HDD, I plan on using only 1-2 TB m.2 and an external HDD for backup. That is closest I can get to my "dream workspace" for now

 

Does it need things like a rubber tools to open it up?
I've seen the unit break downs and its still one of the cleanest units I've seen looking for a new laptop.

 

No tools other than a screwdriver. You'll have to unsnap a few clips towards the rear of the laptop where the exhaust ports are located. However I did this quite easily by hand with some gentle pulling. And all of the upgradable parts are easily accessible after this cover is removed. Nothing stupid to deal with like ram slots on the other side of the mobo like Asus and MSI seem to be doing lately.

 

Would there be any advantage waiting for the possible Ice Lake release? For these laptops? Since that is going out to laptops first.

 

From what I understand we are still waiting for the cannon lake release, because the 9th gen laptop CPUs are supposed to come Q2 this year under 14nm+++. Ice lake is 10nm, and I don't expect to see it till next year tbh .

 

So with the i7-8750H being so solid a processor for this kinda laptop. Would waiting be of any benefit?

 

I'm thinking people are hoping that the new processors will run a little cooler than the 8750h. But I agree with your logic that there is nothing wrong with the current i7 as it is more than capable. I don't think I've been bottlenecked by that processor in my previous predator helios 300 or my new mech-17. I'm in full support of jumping on the new 20 series gpu options with our current availability of Intel options.

 

Personal opinion, so take it this as you will.

I feel the cpu is the bottleneck here cause of how hot it runs so it ends up throttling often. The fix for this is to undervolt. i9-8950hk runs EVEN hotter, and is basically unsustainable in most laptops. It requires a very robust thermal solution, and enough power to sustain its rated clocks. So in other words.. a big and good quality laptop. From what I know and have seen the 9th gen refresh is basically just a bump up in clock rate in most scenarios. So I feel you won't get any significant performance gains, and suffer all the thermal issues that come with the clock bump unless Intel has made drastic changes.
There is also the chance that Intel skips cannon lake entirely to 10nm. If this happens expect it to come out no earlier than December because their rumoured date was "2019 holiday" or 2020.

 

In my opinion if you have the 8750h inside the GK7CP7S (17 inch) chassis with liquid metal thermal compound it will not bottleneck. The max I see is mid 80s under heavy load and that's without an undervolt. I guarantee undervolting and optimizing windows (turning off unneeded background processes) would shave another 5-10 degrees off that temperature. Far from thermal throttling range.

 

Well, hoping for a cooler CPU wouldn't be a good idea considering the desktop counterparts of the 9th gen...

 

FAN MANAGER 1.0
Compatible with:
GK5CN5Z / GK5CN6Z / GK5CQ7Z / GK5CP0Z
GK7CN6S / GK7CP0S / GK7CP7S
Source code avaible
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I'm glad to show you my latest tool: Fan Manager

What is Fan Manager?
Fan Manager is a really low-weight tool that helps you better managing your laptop's fans speed.
It is thought for users that prefer to use Gaming/Control Center instead of Rev.Center2.0 or for who doesn't want to use any other utility.

Why I should use this FanManager if there is already one on Gaming/Control Center?
Because Fan Manager is much more accurate, reactive and customizable then the one from Tongfang. A lot of time Gaming/Control Center active fans also if temps are lower.

There will be incompatibility with TongFang Gaming/Control Center?
Fan Manager is created to be compatible with all TongFang laptop.

Can I use Rev.Center2 and this Fan Manager?
Fan Manager is totally based on Rev.Center2 source code, so it is not really useful using both tools.​

FEATURES:

• Automatic Fan (EC) : Stock Laptop fan managing. Fans are controlled by the BIOS and not by the FanManager.
• Turbo Fan Mode: Turbo Fan Boost Mode.
• Silent Fan Mode: Automatically change Fan Speed to guarante the most quiet fans without worring about temperature).
• Static Fan Mode: Choose a fan speed regardless of temperatures.
• Advanced Fan Mode: Create your custom Fan Speed Graphs

Screenshot:

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Download:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hQPDYt8DRmlArOae4YKf_ZJVRTC2BiQc

Source Code: (for any info about the code write me a PM. You can do whatever you want with the code)
GUI: https://github.com/lKinderBueno/FanManager_Standalone
FAN CHANGER: https://github.com/lKinderBueno/Rev.Center2-FanManager

Installation:
Install the tool and use it as a normal program.

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Changelog

Spoiler

[1.0]
Initial release

Link to Rev.Center2 (working for now only on GTX versions):
http://forum.notebookreview.com/goto/post?id=10854080#post-10854080

 

Testing FAN MANAGER 1.0 and I have the GK7CP7S and the Silent Fan Mode seems to be affecting the CPU boost, is that intentional to keep the temps and fan speeds down? Time Spy scores below:

Silent Fan Mode:

7104 overall
7593 gfx
5208 cpu

Automatic Fan (EC) Mode:

7437 overall
7568 gfx
6776 cpu

HWinfo showed the clocks weren't maintaining boost with silent fan mode and the cores were hitting power limits a lot so I assume throttling back.

 

I Bought a new GK7CP7S and I'm getting really poor performance out from the rtx 2070, clock speed is around 1100Mhz on max load, also temperature is locked around 63ºc. In 3DMark benchmarks I get the same performance as the 2070 max-q variant. Gaming center profile is set to Game Mode and all W10 power settings set to max performance. In MSI Afterburner, HWinfo and GPU-Z says is always performance limit: Power. Any idea about these problem?

 

Which retailer did you purchase from?

 

PCSpecialist, Seems that is an issue with the Gaming Center I think. I Installed my own W10 system

 

Might be a game of driver matching. You could try the eluktronics ones since they carry that model too. Should we create a thread this model and rtx lines?

 

Here is the other forum were I talk a lot about the problem:
https://www.pcspecialist.es/forums/showthread.php?62104-Recoil-II-17-3-quot-RTX-2070-Arrived/page7

 

Thanks a lot! Really was hoping to get this model in the US as I LOVE THE 1060 GTX but want the RTX for some graphics rendering fun!

 

Think they'll expand the capabilities of the RTX and Deep Learning cores?

 

Just to upgrade my game engine to RTX and some games I have in development.

 

I faced the same problem, I found that the physical button beside power button to change from office mode to game mode lift the power limit.

 

My keyboard cover came in, I think it genuinely improves the typing experience in some ways by softening the sound and the impact of my sharp keystrokes. It actually helps with troublesome keys like spacebar not actuating when struck off-center. It does introduce other issues such as a mushier feel, and is subjectively an eyesore - but I am happy with the product. Package security and branding was surprisingly top-notch also.

Keyboard cover link (thanks to whoever linked me to this product)

 

Ah yes, so it's basically just switching it to Office Mode like the Gaming Centre software does. I thought it was just a preset fan curve, so I guess the only new functionality is the advanced fan curve editor? Everything else can be done in the standard Gaming Centre software?

@ lKinder_Bueno

 

Recently sold my Omen X 17 Laptop in favor for something a little lighter and more portable as I have a desktop with a 1080. I've been shopping around and narrowed it down to a select few, the Eluktronic mech 17 (2070/1tb ssd/liquid) being one of them. Dave2d shed some light on most aspects but for those that have had it for some time, could you please speak on the quality, fit and finish, flex, hinges? The Omen X 17 was heavy (10+lbs) but it was an absolute tank.

 

For sound. Launch "sound blaster connect" ( I just type "connect" on my window search and boom done).
Overall build: Absolutely fantastic. Matt trackpad area super nice feel. trackpad feels like some matt glass but don't know exactly.
Cooling and performance (highest Cinebench r15 i've ever seen).
Light and portable (15" inch body).
I really love this laptop and the only upgrade I'm considering is the rtx eluktronics or wait for the new intel processors before I jump (no rush since, thank fully I have ample power)

 

The laptop has no problem with the build quality of the base less flex than gs75 in a lot of areas. The display due to being a very thin design you might want to re-enforce the lid with a metal sheet if you want this laptop to take some hits. Hinge is better than HP Omen, a little less than alienware quality. Just note a lot of aspects of Dave2D that were a miss can be corrected, mainly battery and sound, there are a ton of mods that have been made or in progress of being made to fix them. The keyboard on the 17" has 2.0mm of travel vs 2.5mm on the omen x. The switches are quiet. It's possible to config the 17" to be as light as 5.0 lbs if you take out the hard drive bay. Keyboard desk has a matte finish like the finish on like some lenovo laptops, does not collect oils as much as an alienware deck. If you want to out perform a RTX 2080m, this laptop has the cooling solution to do so.

 

Do you have a link to a metal sheet?

 

Well, no, I would just go to your local hardware store (bound to be cheaper) to get a metal sheet to either fit on the inside of the lid (getting the correct measurement really matters here, including thinness), or the outside which would be easier to add, attaching the metal to the lid can be done many ways (most of you would want to use maybe strong double sided tape, wrapping right on top of it would make it look like a solid lid with no modification. This will add weight to the laptop and strain on the hinges but if you're going want more protection from display flex, this is the only way to go.

 

Are there any good travel sleeves that fit the Mech 17?

 

Don't bother waiting. I was in the same boat cause I'm waiting and saving enough money to be in a comfortable position to buy a new gaming laptop so I thought I may as well wait for the 9th gen. Here's what the "leaks" have confirmed, even though the articles out there are speculating 8 core i7 parts from the leaked Intel data sheets they completely missed the fact that the 9750h was listed to have the same CTP (MTOPs) as the current 8850h.. I don't know how these writers and websites were dumb enough to completely miss that but there's also been a 3dmark leak from a few days ago from notable leaker confirming that the 9750h is indeed a 6 core part with a 2.6ghz base and a 4.29ghz turbo clock.. which basically all but confirms that the 9750h is just an 8850h refresh

Datasheet leak (which even says in brackets that the core count is unknown so their 8 core guestimate is just wishful thinking, don't get your hopes up): https://www.anandtech.com/Gallery/Album/6920
Recent leak: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Upcom...0H-make-an-appearance-on-3DMark.411452.0.html