TONGFANG GK7CN6S / GK7CP0S / GK7CP7S

The ram it comes with is already 2666 speed and will run at that. My Eluktronics Ram ran at that speed as well. Only reason things were an issue is with XMP memory upgrades like to my 32gb g-skill Ram. Without its XMP profile was only running at 2400. However using Intel Xtu i was able to activate its Xmp profile, and not only did it get to the 2666 "cap", it went to my Memories full 2800 Xmp speed.

 

Im in the same boat as you
Cant decide what to get. I would either get it from PCS or Chillblast, depending on whether you want GSYNC or not since XMG is based in Germany and is slightly more expensive for the same stuff in PCS. Apparently, Cyberpower is going to get the 2080 maxQ version so there's that but it will most likely have the US keyboard.

Personally, I'd go for the GSYNC. I'm hopefully gonna get them to remove the storage so I can get it cheaper.

 

Thanks for the reply - and to update I just got an email back from Chillblast saying this model doesn't support G-Sync (even though it says it does on their website grrrr they are dead to me now).

 

Sadly, just as I suspected. I was skeptical when I saw the G-Sync feature advertised. I’m glad you reached out to the company before making a purchase. But considering the kinds of benchmark scores we have been seeing from every GPU stuck into this chassis (very good), I hardly think Optimus is a detriment in this case.

 

In GPU intensive games, the differency can be large. Bur it can handle every game flawless.

 

Wait what? When I asked, they said they did.

 

100% this chassis doesn't offer a G-Sync option. We would have offered it if so

 

Sad times. Now Im even more unsure whether to go for this or the Clevo PB51.

 

G-SYNC a must? --> Clevo
Otherwise --> Tongfang

Not that difficult it seems

 

Im still deciding on whether the size is a big deal or not mixed with GSYNC. Quite like my current 17" but one of my reasons getting a new laptop is for it to be smaller and lighter so my daily walk to my uni campus is less of a hassle.

 

Has any vendor released a BIOS that "patches" ZombieLoad, RIDL, and Fallout?

 

From what I've gathered it's a hardware exploit so a Bios or windows security update can really only be reactive. KB4499154 patched the related exploits for the time being. But without disabling hyper threading there is no way to completely protect yourself at this point from future exploits. The only real fix is to eventually buy new hardware.

Which leads me to wonder if anyone down the road will go the class action lawsuit route on Intel. I'm not sure what protections Intel writes into their user agreements but I'd wager that they have their ass covered from a legal perspective already.

So we're pretty much just hung out to dry until a future hardware revision fixes this.

 

If enough people gather, no matter what the EULA says, it'll be somewhere very hidden under a lot of legalese and convoluted language. There's only so much an "agreement" will protect when it is overly unfair towards the customers.

 

A 120hz 4K 17" panel now exists on laptops as well as RTX Studio Drivers/certification, what are your thoughts?
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/28/...sus-dell-gigabyte-hp-msi-razer-specs-features

 

Soo... I was bored and decided to wrap the laptop lid to match the current color scheme. I think it came out pretty good. Thought I'd share.

 

That looks awesome!

 

Das pretty dope, ngl

 

I have recieved my laptop (9750h with RTX2070) but in tests with Far Cry 5 the results are the same as with my ex-clevo with 8750h amd RTX2070mq.
Perhaps Far Cry is CPU bound...

In Cinebench R15, the score is 1310. Which is a tad higher. Firestrike GPU score is 21k+. So that looks good.

 

Oh - that's curious indeed, I would have expected that combo to outperform the "ex-Clevo" setup at least on the GPU side, even with a more CPU reliant game, no?!

 

How long did it take from order to arrival? The scores look awesome!

 

Where's that wrap from? That looks beautiful

 

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I don't know, the benchmarks scores are excellent, so I presume I have a fast system . The game is running fluent, without any problem.
I suspect that the clevo was a bit better in cooling the CPU/GPU, fans where making less noise. But when I game, I hold back the CPU and GPU when I want to game more silent.

For reference:
Clevo P970EF, i7-8750H, RTX2070mq, 16GB DDR4 2666MHz in dual channel (Kingstong HyperX CL15).
Cinebench R15 --> CPU 1246, OpenGL 107,91fps
Firestrike: Score 16520, 18814 Graphics score, 16862 Physics score and 8495 combined score


Tongfang GK7CP7S, i7-9750H, RTX2070, 16GB DDR4 2666MHz in dual channel (Kingstong HyperX CL15)
Cinebench R15 --> CPU 1310, OpenGL 124,21fps
Firestrike: Score 18386, 21670 Graphics score, 16921 Physics score and 9163 combined score
The cinebench scores stays around 1300 in every consecutive run, pretty neat.

I pressume these are good scores for a non Eluktronics device, so without boost.

It took around 1,5-2 weeks, but only because I requested faster memory than was available from the site.

 

Those are some pretty solid numbers, ~5.5% increase in firestrike of a 8750h/2070 (mech 17 g1r), how are temps over long stress sessions?

I've always used 3M 1080 series wrap (matte white). Super easy work with and pliable. Word of warning once you start, you can get carried away... as you can see my g903 got the treatment too lol

 

Dayum, now I feel like I should wrap my G603

 

75-80ish degrees celcius on CPU and GPU. I have the graphit pads on both of them. Liquid metal would probably show better temps.

 

At least they make the 603 in white... for a hefty up-charge lol. The G903 doesn't get that option. The fact that the top simply slides out should make it literally the easiest wrap ever lol. The 903's sharp angles just added to the headache.

That's awesome. the ICDiamond pads? Did you install it yourself or did they come from the manufacturer? I opted for the liquid metal from Eluktronics but I'm not entirely sure if they do pads as well in the process.

 

No. i ordered the laptop with it installed.

 

The wrap looks good and clean Hoping to get mine this week!!

 

I didn't spent that much time with the laptop but I like the build quality, It is put together very well, it doesn't make any rattling sound or cracks. The screen is pretty good, I didn't noticed any ghosting or whatsover. Performance is on point, Only thing to try is to undervolt the GPU, I'm not familiar with that. I prefer to sacrify some performance over noise, so if I loose performance I don't mind (maybe I had to take the RTX2060 or GTX1660ti ).
The disadvantage is the keyboard, I use a Dell Latitude ultrabook for work and I'm used to the keyboard which is pretty good (Not Lenovo level, but still). SO, I can't type very fast on the keyboard and that is probably my own fault, my finger placement isn't that great and you have to press the keys pretty much in the center to go down easily. But I will get used to it and the biggest advantage, the keys in the area you use for gaming stays very cool, with the Clevo it was on the edge of burning your fingers. If I have time I will compare with the Flir camera.
Second small disadvantage is the produced sound, it is just not loud enough, there is no to little bass in the speakers, but it is a laptop.

It is no doubt, if you want to game at full capability, you need a headphone with noise cancellation, athough the produced fan noise isn't annoying.

 

It is definitely worth it to learn how to properly undervolt your Gpu. Not only can you get more performance (since if it uses less Voltage = less watts, so can get higher clocks before power limit throttling) but also cooler temps and quieter fans. I have my 1660ti performing equal to an average overclocked DESKTOP 1660 ti ( here is undervolt from base 1.038 to just .925 at 2040 core and +800 memory with over 17.3k firestrike- https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19431470. I have fully stable 2100 core at .975 Volts with Heaven and Metro Exodus Benchmark, so can probably break 17.5k firestrike if i spend time testing higher clocks with my undervolt curve. However it usually power limit throttles at about .875 volts (= 90 watt ElukroBoosted limit) which i have at 1980mhz). However it can take some time to get your curve proper and test things for stability and the like. Here are two videos i used to get a grasp of things, but 80% of the heavy lifting i had to do and learn over hours on my own-



Regarding the sound, you have no choice but to download Soundblaster (link provided by ezradharma on page 99) https://www.microsoft.com/store/productId/9N66RLJRT8Z2. It makes things much louder, and allows you to further amplify the sound. My only issue with it is it seems to cause a POPPING sound here and there from the speakers. Didn't hear it when i uninstalled soundblaster and tested the speakers normally for a while (but the low volume without it is tough to bear), so just beware of that.

Depending on the game you may not need the fans to ramp up much. I'm playing the new Thea 2: The Shattering right now (not a demanding game at all relative to AAA games ofcourse) , and i have a profile for my Gpu to just .800 volts at fairly respectable over 1800 clocks (not that much below the 1935 max outa the box at 1.038 volts before undevolt/overclock), and with the cpu if you don't need it much (besides that u should try to reach near max fully stable undervolt. Mine has no issue with a radical undervolt of -250 core and -130 cache, and .111 to gpu+gpu unslice) you can temporarily downlock it (say by turning off turbo temporarily with throttlestop, so bringing it from 4+ghz constantly on all 6 cores, to 2.6ghz constantly. However instead of 18-45 watts being used, you go down to 13-30) which can cause Temps to go down more than double digits as well, and fans will automatically adjust down.

 

Hey uv, what GPU did you wind-up ordering from Eluktronics with the Mech-17?

 

I went for the RTX 2070

 

So I've been agonizing about getting the perfect laptop for me. After months of deliberation and multiple returns of Amazon warehouse laptops, I've bitten the bullet and ordered myself an Eluktronics MECH-17 G1Rx with the 2070. I actually ordered and canceled it multiple times last night, talking myself out of it and going with the 15" or 8th gen processor. I was way overthinking this purchase, but I'm dedicated to not cancel it again lol.

I've retired my old gaming desktop and have turned it into my media server. It was running an i7-4770k and GTX 970, so I think I'm going to be seeing a pretty big difference. I'm honestly most excited about having some NVMEs and ordered myself an extra Sabrent Rocket 1TB to stick into that empty spot.

I got it from Amazon since I had a bunch of credit, but there is no longer an option to customize. I really wanted to get the upgraded thermal paste, but honestly, it's no big deal, I know my way around computers. I ordered a tube of Arctic MX-4, but I'll be taking a look at the thermals before going through with the repasting process. My main concern is longevity and I want this laptop to last me 4 to 5 years.

On to my question, are any of you guys running Pop_OS! on your systems? Linux gaming is really making some strides and I'd like to jump onto the bandwagon. I've recently gone down the Linux rabbit hole (my retired desktop is running Ubuntu server with XFCE desktop) and am really starting to appreciate the open source nature, the helpful community and am really tired with Windows and all that tracking bloatware. I die a little everytime I do a fresh install of windows and see that Candy Crush icon.

I would like to do a dual boot and am planning on using the 512drive for Linux and 1TB for Windows for the time being.

 

Congratulations on your purchase, and welcome to the forum! While I can't comment on Linux I can offer feedback on your other points.

If you contact Eluktronics directly they may still be able to apply upgraded thermal paste or liquid metal to your Amazon order. Arctic Mx-4 is quite average and likely will not be an improvement over the stock paste. Favorite pastes for this chassis include Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut and IC Diamond (did I miss one?).

You will probably enjoy the 17.3" screen much more, especially coming from a desktop. The larger chassis with the full 2070 will give better performance than the 15.6" with 2070 mq, obviously. You can always hook up a larger external monitor too. I didn't like the black finish initially, preferring gray, but now with my laptop placed on my black entertainment center connected to my TV it blends it quite nicely.

Good luck, and keep us updated on your experience.

 

Thank you! I just went with the Arctic because that's what I've been using for years on my desktops. It might be a moot point though. I reached out to Eluktronics and they said that if I'm not happy with the thermals I can ship the system back to them, within 30 days, and they would do the repaste for me without additional labor charges. From what's been posted here about thermals though, I think I won't need to go through that. I don't plan on overclocking my GPU, just going to go with a CPU and cache UV. At least not with current gen games.

I'm looking forward to the larger screen right now. I just hope it fits into my bags! I measured them and it should be good. I have a bit of a bias against 17" laptops because of previous experience, but the Mech 17 seems pretty compact. I had a 17" HP back in 2006 and that thing was a freaking monster. I can't believe how small the chassis of 17" laptops have gotten.

I have an AOC 24" 1080p 144hz monitor, so I'll be using that to play at home and the laptops screen when I'm at work and on the go.

I just got my tracking number and it will be delivered on Friday at work, I get the feeling my afternoon will not be very productive lol.

 

So what is the eluktroboost, and which sellers have the 9750h + 2070 model for cheap and ship to Canada?
Hidevolution has it for $1629 with the pads + conductonaut, no ram, wifi card, or hard drive (I want to buy em separately), and $37 ground shipping to Canada, Ontario.

 

Watch this video:


Eluktroboost is only offered by Eluktronics. I have their i9750 with a 2070 and Eluktroboost is not an option in my gaming center. I don't think the models with the full 2070 use Eluktoboost, it is offered on the models that ship with the 2070MQ, the 2060 or the 1660Ti.

https://www.eluktronics.com/MECH-17

https://www.eluktronics.com/MECH-15-G2

 

I have the Tongfang with i7-9750h and RTX2070 (normal model) and I'm pretty happy with it. Build quality and performance is on point.
I always use it in balanced mode, that way the fan noise is rather low while performance is very good. Temps are 80-85ísh CPU/GPU when playing Far Cry 5.

I notice 2 problems:
- The keyboard isn''t taking all keystrokes, but this can be because I'm not used to it.
- Sometimes when I boot, it is stuck at bios logo. turn off and on helps.

Anyone else has one (or both) of these problem(s)?

 

It's actually a feature by TongFang (called turbo mode) which increases GPU TDP for higher clocks and less power throttling. Note that GK7 with 2070 doesn't feature this

 

Hi all,

I recently got my computer from PCSpecialist. Including an RTX 2070 and a i7-9750h !
However, it seems I got problems on cooling my CPU.

What I did :
Bought the good thermal paste from PCS.
I installed a fresh version of Windows
Installed all drivers & game center. By default the undervoltage is -50mV and max TDP short boost 85W.
During my tests, fans are in TURBO MODE to get potentially get the best cooling solution.
Ran a 3DMark TimeSpy test : Score 7232 and cores going up to 100°C



The only way I could lower the temps is by doing this in ThrottleStop :
-120mV on CPU Core & Cache and -50mV on Intel GPU
Turbo Boost Long Power Max : 70
Turbo Boost Short Power Max : 75
SpeedShift : Enabled, 128.

Here's an example after a PUBG session :

So after a session of PUBG, my temps would not exceed 91°C, using the cooling pad under my laptop.

By the way, I do lost performances by activating the SpeedShift, but it brings me such good temps compared to start.

Those settings lowered my temps to 85-90C° in full use, sometimes more, depending on the software/game (94°C in AIDA64 stress test)

- Do you think my laptop is faulty or the out of stock temps are "normal", knowing that those temperatures (100°C) are usually damaging hardware and resulting to failing in 6months-1year ?
- Should I try a thermal repaste ?

Thanks for any help !

 

yeah, those temps are definitely not acceptable, and will definitely shorten the life span of your laptop. You should not be seeing anything close to 100 C especially out of the box and with a thermal paste upgrade. This might indicate they didn't test it and i'd advise sending it back for them to fix it instead of opening it yourself especially if it's brand new. My Eluktronics unit did come with a -.50mv undervolt on the cpu and nothing on the gpu (along with LM) but that's pretty much about it and i've never seen it break past ~84 on synthetics and a stead 75-78 in games.

You can try new paste but having paid for the upgrade, and the unit being brand new, I wouldn't bother simply on principal. That being said, i've re-pasted all my previous units but i've seen what this unit is capable out of the box with thermal upgrade.

 

I gave tested Aida64 and i have a oeak at 90 degrees and settles in low 80’s.
But the CPU consumes 70-80W constant after -0.1V undervolt. In balanced mode the temps are better...

 

Hi,

Thanks for your answers.
I managed to lower the temps without losing lots of performances by setting Short and Long max TDP in ThrottleStop.
Any chance you tell me yours for the i7-970h out-of-stock guys (Mine was 80W-85W) ? And also the max CPU Package Power while under load ?

 

Hi there
Congrats on the buy .
Your temps are high, Tongfang even with Stock paste don’t get that hot . If you paid for the upgraded thermal paste you should contact them , i’ ve tested the carbonaut and its actually pretty good , not as good as kryonaut but its a lot easy to aply , its reusable and it doesn’t dry out like normal thermal paste. However for your laptop its better to measure the GPU and cpu before buying the pad , it comes in diferent sizes .
I hope it helped

 

Hi

Thanks for the feedback. Yes I did paid for upgraded thermal paste.
May I use "Artic MX-2" that I got at home, or you think this one is a bad thermal paste for this CPU/Chassis ? For the moment, only had good results with it
By the way, I am hesitant by changing it by myself, as I could break warranty if something gets broken.

 

It's normal

 

Okay, may you explain ? With undervolt and stuff like reducing TDP and SpeedShift, I cannot get good temps under 90's is this normal too ? I really do guess my laptop has a problem, maybe thermal paste, maybe another.... But please, elaborate your reply.

 

Here you go buddy. You'll need a spare USB drive to update the keyboard but it fixed the issue. https://www.eluktronics.com/MECH-Series-keyboard-update

 

As I said, aida 64 settles in the low

Hi, this is for the missing keystrokes?
Is it 100% safe to perform on a non eluktronica laptop?

 

Yes it is to fix the missing key strokes. And I'm not sure about using it on a non eluktronics laptop but I doubt it would cause issues as it shares the same components as all other tongfang devices.