TONGFANG GK7CN6S / GK7CP0S / GK7CP7S

Run Aida64 FPU only and monitor CPU temp+clock+power+power limits via HWinfo. Let me know your results

 

Hi there,

My ThrottleStop settings :
CPU Core & Cache @-0.121mV & Intel GPU @-0.125mV.
Max TDP 1 : 55W/TDP 2 : 65W
SpeedShift : 128 SST.


I need to put SpeedShift @128 for all day utilization like gaming or heavy apps because of high temperatures, but here, if I set it to 0 and only stressing FPU with AIDA64 it doesn't change temps a lot but is increasing performances and clocks.

EDIT :
I got a lot of screenshots after benchmarks or gaming.
Here's an example of Heroes Of The Storm, which isn't using CPU a lot, so it won't heat so much :

The strangest thing is that EVERYTIME or mostly, only one or two cores are heating up, so that would mean that thermal paste isn't good, nah ?

Thx

 

Looks fine to me, you might want to lower PL1 and PL2 since they are insanely high in Tongfangs (eg PL1 45W, PL2 60W)

 

[QUOTE="Mighty13, post: 10923294, member: 720750"
The strangest thing is that EVERYTIME or mostly, only one or two cores are heating up, so that would mean that thermal paste isn't good, nah ?

Thx[/QUOTE]

This is an issue. The core difference should be max around 5 degrees, not 20.
Or the paste is not good or worse, the heatsink is completly warped. I would start with a repaste.

Power limits are indeed insane in the Tongfang. CPU alone can consume 80W (in my device at least). In games after tuning with throttlestop it consumer 35-40W.
Ik regret a bit that I din,t took the RTX2060 or GTX1660ti because they consumes less than the RTX2070. But all in all it is still quiet and performing good.

Only thing is the keystrokes that are missing. I didn't dare to update the EC yet...

 

My laptop was shipped with liquid metal and experienced pretty close to the same issues you are experiencing. One core would hit 99 degrees almost immediately and throttle.

I sent it back to eluktronics and they reapplied and tested before sending back to me. No issues after they reapplied.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to have the thermal compound replaced.

 

Biggest issue with this machine is PWM. I'm very sensitive to it.

Has anyone successfully swapped this out with, say, the AUO409D or the CMN175C?

 

Hi!

I have tongfang gk7cp7s with intel 9750h and rtx 2070 non max q and the gpu wont go past 1215 mhz on heaven benchmark, is this normal or is the gpu faulty?

https://imgur.com/z9R08wV

 

Every GPU is different but this is rather low. I believe mine boost till 17-1800MHz ish.

 

Which exact model? Did you set the correct power mode in command center?

 

Everything is set to maximum performance gaming center/nvidia control panel/windows power options.

Model: https://configurelaptop.eu/product/tongfang-gk7c/

 

Hey, anyone notice a PL1/PL2 reduction? I tried reapplying bios N.1.08 and it seemed to be unlocked before it went back down. (1060gtx model)

 

Set Windows power to better performance
Set GPU power to Adaptive in Nvidia control panel

Which GPU driver are you using?

 

Tried suggestions above, no changes.
Version 430.86 Game ready driver for notebooks, DCH.

 

Download f.lux and use alt+pageup/pagedown to adjust the brightness.

 

Huh. That's quite impressive.

Although it seems it's less desirable than being able to simply reduce brightness, as you lose contrast.

Still, much better than PWM!

 

Another question for you boys... my local reseller (Infinity, in Australia) has a fairly uninspired looking logo: https://files.pccasegear.com/UserFiles/INFINITY-S2070-hero-last.jpg

I'd much rather run one of these with a clean top. Has anyone had any luck removing a logo like this? Either on Tongfang or similar Clevo machines? Would rubbing alcohol work?

 

Most of us just wrap over it, if you have a logo that is stamped to the lid, that's going to need a different solution.

 

Finally got mine (not Eluktronics fault). Thank God it delivers
Ram is 2666Mhz
BFV 70-95fps (fans not loud at all) (DX12+RTX and everything high or ultra)
Absolutely love it.
Cinebench r15 (multicore:1013)

Cinebench r20 (multicore:3189)

 

Has anyone had issues updating to windows version 1903? It is required to use the new Xbox beta program for windows. I am using the windows 10 update assistant and I get about 80% of the way through the install before it fails and throws error code 0x80070003.

As far as I can tell my current driver sets are up to date on everything. Does anyone have any insight because I'm at a wall here on what to try next, as I've already done the basics like running registry repair and following a few guides on the Microsoft support page to try and fix as well.

My machine is a Eluktronics Mech 17 with the 2070 and 8th gen CPU.

 

I successfully updated my 8th gen machine to 1903 using the update assistant found here. But it sounds like you already tried this. You could try the third option suggested by this article.

I also updated to try the new Xbox subscription. So far Forza Horizon 4 is worth the price of admission!

 

I’m pretty sure this has to do with amount of apps installed. Modern apps get migrated per upgrade. There’s a bug on this. I’m out right now but if you use WindirStat you’ll be able to notice a potential huge color blob or a lot of similarly colored ones. I believe I massively deleted them. But don’t do anything until you do research and of course backup Incase something happens.

Will update more when I get back to my computer.

God speed

Update: here some potential fixes
https://appuals.com/error-0x80070003-when-updating-apps/
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...s/28a222a4-f509-4cdc-a78b-9129d4987200?auth=1

The key part is some app is acting up. This can either be a quick reinstall of a small number of apps. Or if you go to where the apps are installed you'll notice a lot of folders of weirdly named apps (serial numbers) that are obviously a bug as you woulnd't have that many. I just massively deleted them. You can type in admin command window:

(BE VERY CAREFUL. THIS DELETES WITHOUT CONFIRMATION AND SKIP PUTTING FILES IN RECYCLE BIN)

"rmdir /s /q <name of app>.

If they have the same prefix that replace that with a "*" (without quotes) as such

"rmdir /s /q *-rest-of-name-that isn't shared" (without quotes).

Hope this helps. It did help me unblock my upgrade.

 

Don't you need a specially cut wrap?

 

Liquid metal?
I always game in balanced mode, otherwise there is too much noise of the fans.
I don’t need that much performance anyway.

 

So I used WindirStat for the first time and wasn't totally sure what I was looking for. Nothing seems terribly out of the ordinary. And I've tried some of those other fixes as well.

I've gone through and deleted multiple apps to try and isolate the one that could be the issue with no luck so far. Even deleted the contents of the Software Distribution folder to ensure that I wasn't working with a corrupt download.

I don't use this laptop for general computing so it has only gaming related software installed on it, not unlike most people on here would be using. If it were steam, epic games store etc I'm sure more people would be running into this.

 

Eesh, this is mainly the windows apps ones (sorry if I wasn't clear).

Check this directory: https://www.techmesto.com/windows-store-apps-installed-save-data/

 

So I checked there as well and didn't see anything that looked out of the norm, maybe with the exception of the StudioWildCard folder for Ark Survival. I'm wondering what the ramifications would be if I removed the Microsoft apps listed in there. Knowing windows it will bork and get really angry with me. Thanks again for your insight, it is very much appreciated.

 

Does Windirstat show any folder being overly sized/bloated? It might be a corrupted read/write issue. Windows physically moves this files from Windows.old -> Windows during upgrade process. I think it tries to do it as safely (slow) as possible and then it hits a snag. I was hoping to find a lot of never seen apps but from the looks of it, everything looks good from the screenshot. Let me do some quick research and get back to you.

 

No folders look oversized. I have 70+ gigs free of the 128 gig SSD that the operating system is installed on. I'm trying the Windows media creation tool at the moment. I'll just create recovery media and do a reinstall of the OS if I have to. All of my games are installed on the second M.2 drive and 2.5 inch SSD anyway so reinstalling would still suck, but isn't the end of the world.

 

I'd say if you can, clear all your microsoft store apps. I think you can see a list of previously downloaded in the store apps.
but first, try these:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...em-files/bc609315-da1f-4775-812c-695b60477a93
try upgrading
then if that doesn't work run this too
https://www.bing.com/search?q=diskd...86a9fbff3f67bd8e6e&&FORM=ANAB01&setLang=en-US

I'm avoiding the nuclear option. The third idea is to uninstall any exotic device from device manager. Any of these 3rd party dependencies could be blocking the upgrade. It could be as simple as a folder/file having corrupted user rights which blocks the update from moving it.

 

OWNorDisown just posted a very informative review of the MECH-17 with 2060 and Eluktroboost.



I love my MECH-17 with 2070 and Eluktroboost. I'm convinced they're the best RTX laptops on the market.

 

Do you have “turbo mode”? After watching the video I realized mine doesn’t.

Also do touch movements on the touchpad not respond for 15-20 seconds after the laptop wakes up (clicks and turning touchpad on/off work, so it's maybe a driver/windows compat issue. Saw similar posts from other people with different laptops).

Loving it so far

 

The 9750 with the 2070 only has 2 modes: Office and Game. You can go back to pages 102 and 103 on this thread to read the interchange with Eluktronics themselves. Even though there is no "turbo mode", we are still getting the benefits of Eluktroboost. However, the 2070 is only boosted an additional 10W, as opposed to the additional 25W boost for the 2060 (hence, the justification for an additional mode, which is also the case for the 1660).

I do not have an issue with the touchpad not responding for several seconds when the laptop wakes up. However, I DID have a similar issue when I tried flashing the EC to update the keyboard using a file linked earlier in this thread. I had to go back to the original EC to fix things.

Did you try something like that? The BIOS and EM are very particular with these Eluktroboosted laptops, so I wouldn't mess around with anything unless it is directly from Eluktronics themselves, and explicitly for your exact laptop model.

 

Thanks for the context and response. This issue has been visible since I got it. :/
I have a suspicious thought it's my drivers or OS (windows insider one). The clicks and on/off-touchpad work. Just the gestures for those initial seconds. Will keep tinkering.

Thanks!

 

Anyone else still having crackling speakers? been a few months now and no resolution for me.

 

Uninstalled and reinstalled audio driver

 

Yes, tried that numerous times. Goes away then always comes back.

 

Did you turn off option in windows updates to not update your hardware. You can do it per device. Either in group policies or in device manager (new or the older one)

 

Depending on the driver (mainly talking about the ones with the Sound Blaster Software), you have manual force it to start up the windows app part as you boot since for some reason it was not designed to by Tongfang.

 

There are precut wraps for this laptop, but since it's not too complex of a shape, getting a sheet of wrap and cutting into shape for just the lid is a lot easier than wrapping like an iphone.


For those of you talking about the Xbox Game Pass, the feature was actually available before the update. but I guess Microsoft wanted to refresh it by giving it an App. It is possible to get the subscription "free" through redeeming it as a Microsoft Reward https://account.microsoft.com/rewards/redeem/ It is region locked to a few countries rn (just use VPN to bypass the restriction, US/UK). Points are gained through activities using Edge and using Bing (I've basically botted searches daily, microsoft search points do have a limit per day but it doesn't matter what you search meaning you could search random phases and it'll count towards points).

Has anyone ever get random disconnects from their Wifi 2x2? If so which model and which version of the driver? My Intel 9560 seems cut off randomly.

 

How many watts is the 2070 maxq pulling with Elektroboost on for the 15"?

 

Did anyone ever found out the difference on Equilibrium Mode (w/ Windows battery slider set to power saving) vs Power Saving Mode?

@hodgeMN I think it'll depend on the power adapter they ship it with (stock would be 180w, they could give you a 230w).

 

So I had to do a clean install of windows in order to update to version 1903. And also used that as an excuse to get a new 970 EVO Plus boot drive to replace the cheaper Samsung nvme that came installed.

My only issue is after the reinstall I cant seem to get Sound Blaster Connect to recognize my laptop as a valid piece of hardware. The bottom of the app just states that "your audio device cannot be detected. Please check connection".

Has anyone experienced this after doing a clean install?

 

I have Mech 17 with 2070 and I noticed in Nvidia control panel some options are missing like videos. Anyone have these options? Some people say these options are not available in Optimus enabled laptops and I don't know if this laptop has Optimus.

 

I don't believe there's optimus on these machines. @Eluktronics mentioned they would if they could find a way.

 

They are optimus enabled (using the iGPU).

 

I thought optimus is when you enable nvidia gfx only. Meaning the intel integrated graphics card is disabled by default.

 

I don't think Tongfang is really using Optimus since the way it does it isn't like how other laptops to behave. A lot of other laptops can switch off the iGPU but Tongfang is wonky and will keep both of them on even with a unlocked BIOS

that happens almost always when doing a clean install. the process to get SBC back is to download and install all the correct drivers in order. It takes some trial and error.

 

Hi i saw that you have reviewed the GK7CQ8S (illegear selenite i7 9750H + RTX 2080 Max Q) model which i believe does feature GPU boost as well. a couple of questions

1. How many watts does the GPU pull when in normal mode and when in GPU boost mode?

2. what's the average GPU frequency when running in GPU boost mode?

3. Is the 230W power supply enough to power the laptop with 2080MQ in GPU boost mode? does the battery drain when under load?

4. I understand the laptop is optimus capable. is there a mux switch to disable the iGPU and run on dGPU full time?

5. which model would you go for? 2060 with GPU boost, 2070 with no GPU boost or 2080MQ with GPU boost?

 

I'd go with the highest gpu I can afford and the $/performance is good. Having a good gpu has been the most important factor in keeping my laptop beefy and having a high resell value.

 

normally i would agree with you, but we are talking about Max Q crap here. a max performance 2070 can easily be as fast or faster than a typical 2080 Max Q, and you are forced to pay a lot more for little to no performance gain.

case in point, the 2060 max performance with GPU boost / elektroboost is way faster than 2070 Max Q crap and just slightly behind a poorly executed 2080 max q