CF-P2 (British Gas Version)

I've found an SDIO WiFi card that doesn't stick out! My CF-28 fund looks like it's going to become nonexistant, again.
New 54M 802.11g Wireless WLAN Mini SD SDIO Card For PDA on eBay (end time 13-Oct-10 08:55:52 BST)
I'm probably going to glue the MiniSD into the adaptor, then put the adaptor on a cord, along with my 2GB Maps SD.

 

what, like 2 ide drives on an ata cable? can you do that? I never even asked myself that question.....

I did find this after a quick search, kinda what i'm talkin bout. 2 micro sd's in 1 adapter (only, an sd adapter instead of ms pro).

Anyone?

 

I meant put the adaptor and my 2gb SD on a cord so I don't loose them.
Although, that's a very nice find... I didn't think that you could put two microsd's into a memory stick format.

 

The adapter is a great idea; but don't get the bundle with the allegedly "Sandisk" brand micro-SD cards. Sandisk (Like Sony) does not EVER sell memory in bulk packaging; if you see either brand NOT in retail blister pack being sold as new, they are counterfeit. (This is straight from the MFR) It is estimated that more than half of the Sandisk and Sony branded Flash being sold on fleaBay is counterfeit; many of those vendors also have stores on Amazon marketplace.

mnem
Memory almost full.

 

Actually, they do ... but not to the retail buying public.

I spent a year as security for the cellphone refurbisher for Verizon Wireless and one of my tasks was to watch over refurbishment personnel as they counted the Micro- and Mini-SD memory cards they got in, in bulk, from SanDisk.

So, individually-sold, non-retailed packaged SanDisk cards aren't necessarily counterfeit; just stolen. <Joke>

 

This is interesting; it may be that things have changed in the last couple years, or it may be that statement applies to Sony product and Sony-licensed Sandisk product (Sandisk is a Sony OEM Channel partner).

The Flash in question was MS-Pro Duo; the most counterfeited Flash product in the world at the time. I was told that even when they sell to MFR's, it comes in sealed blister packs with serial #s on the part and the packaging.

I doubt that the Sandisk 8GB cards selling for $14 are legit, however...

mnem
YMMV.DOOP.DILLIGAF.

 

You just need to remember that the cards we were getting in were "Warranty Replacement" cards to replace failed SanDisk Micro- and Mini-SD cards that came in with the phones to be refurbished. This is not a "usual" situation.

Also, the "retail" SanDisk cards we returned for Warranty Replacement were in Verizon Wireless-logo'd "clamshell" packaging.

 

Yeah... there's always an exception... no matter how many times they tell you they don't make exceptions.

mnem
Funny, how those exceptions always come associated with large quantities of money...

 

Just got an email back from panasonic parts cardiff, I asked about the WiFi daughterboard. Here's their response:

Oh well maybe I'll just borrow my friends new oscilloscope

 

How about e-mailing back and seeing if he can send you the Panasonic Part Number?

 

Sent a reply,

 

Does it mean if you have GPS there's no Bluetooth & vice versa? I just hit the Buy Now button for the one in the earlier link you posted. Thanks.

 

u should read carefully: '...also please note that you will need a gps receiver and car kit to use the gps...'

They sell it with gps, but they really mean it has only the Tomtom UK inside.

U can beside this use an bluetooth gps receiver. Start reading this thread again ;-)

 

I have been using one of these SDIO wifi cards for a while now.
Spectec Computer Co., Ltd
It works fairly well in my Treo 750. Running windows mobile 6. I am replacing my Treo very soon. New phone with cracked LCD is on the way along with new LCD. Anyway, I will be selling my SDIO wifi card very soon. I will post it in the BST forum.

 

haha, it's a rather long thread but I was more confused by the eBay listings by that seller that seemed to highlight some units with the TomTom but didn't mention Bluetooth & vice versa. Anyway, I'm more concerned in wanting BT then the GPS function really. Thanks.

 

Hi Guys,

Ive got 2x CF-p2's just wondering i have Activepilot GPS and need to get it running and is there an updated Bluetooth manager? Any helps guys is appreciated.

Ta

 

So no one opened the CF-P2 to see if there is a CF or PCMCIA slot inside?

 

Mil3: It's been opened up before, but there isn't a "standard" CF slot. It's probably some sort of cut down CF slot. I've had a peek at the schematics for the P2 but there's nothing to indicate what sort of slot. Again, I think it's a cut down CF slot.

Beeks: if you post the version numbers, and model numbers for your CF-P2's as well as any other relevant information then one of us will probably be able to ninja reply to you and get you sorted. I'd happily help you, but you haven't described anything about your P2's so it would be extremely difficult to help.

 

Thanks many apologies for the short post. Where would i find the model number on the phone? sorry for the n00b q's

 

found it my bad cf-p2T1HBF7e HOPE THAT HELPS FOUND IT UNDER THE BATTERY

 

what!? where is that?

 

Can I peek at the schematics too?

 

here is the link to download the schematics

Winrar needed to uncompress this one

http://mcgcs.net/cf_p2t1hbf7e_schematic.rar

7 zip is needed to unzip this one

http://mcgcs.net/cf_p2t1hbf7e_schematic.7z

 

Alright, can you help a non IEEE engineer out a little more. i had the schema already, what pg/zone is it in, please?

 

If you're talking about what page the Wifi is on the schematics, it was on page/section 8 on the schematics I had. It should interface to either CN1 or CN5, it's not the ribbon one. I'll try and upload the board diagram at some point.

EDIT: Here's the collection of CF-P2 things that currently resides on my hdd, most, if not all the files here were from onirakkiss. Sorry for uploading to crapidshare, but megaupload's flash wouldn't give me my download link and so my files kept getting lost.

Interestingfellow you might want to take a look at the board layout for either CN5 or CN1, it's one of them that the wifi interfaces to. I think it's NOT the ribbon cable one, but I'm not certain.

http://rapidshare.com/files/418938706/CFP2.zip
MD5: 5E0F0C0784EEF5F776304B0E485EABF3

MOAR EDIT:
Beeks: I'm assuming you got that from ebay The lastest bluetooth stack for that model is V1.1.7.3, built on 2006/04/27. To check, fire up the Wireless Power control, switch on bluetooth, then close the power control. There should then be a small bluetooth logo in bottom right corner, click it and hit version. If the OS on the P2 is "crippled" in any way and you have issues with doing things, it may be worth heading over to toughbook.wikispaces.com/CF-P2 and looking at the instructions on how to reset the device from an image. You probably won't need to do this, but the article is worth a read as it is basically the collective knowledge of this thread.

 

Oh, so you were referring to the wifi connector as the "half cf" connector?

I had planned on checking it out, to see what else may be able to be hooked up to it (after I get my own, that is)

 

CN1 is the jtag connector

CN5 is for a camera

 

I have also worked out that the wireless lan would have been a chip on main pcb

If you look at the schematic (Page 8) you will see the chip is on the right IC40.

Now look at the board layout and you will see where IC40 is.

I hope to get time tomorrow to take my P2 apart to have look to see if the chip is there.

I know this is not going to be straight forward as we think.

The IC40 (WLAN6060EBC2-HL-TR-01) (WLAN6060EBC2) was made by SYCHIP. I am going to e-mail them to see can I get any info on the the chip and is there anything that has replaces it

Also if we think about if the wireless was a board that could of been added it would have a part no from panasonic and they would have given it, this is why they could not give or find a part no for it

 

Anyone has an update on whether it works on a P2?

 

Exceelent thanks for the reply, I have managed to get the Bluettoth talking to to the GPS and seems to be OK. The next question i have, I followeed the wiki and im trying to get Memory map working on the CF-p2 however i use the regedit tool but no Key is listed for licence etc.
Do i need to create a new one, or do i copy it from my main PC across?

Also guys, no doubt i will need some compact net framework for this device, and due to me not having a Sync cable, what framework should i dl for WM 3.1? any other recommendations?

The primary use for this phone is Military Simulation so GPS is required and also the phone functions.

TIA

 

Beeks:
Try importing this file into the registry:
http://rapidshare.com/files/421415235/Memory-Map-OS-5.reg

 

Bugga no rapid account, and no free slots

Think the world hates me today

 

Beeks: try here http://www.easy-share.com/1912421563/Memory-Map-OS-5.reg

 

Excellent sorted, thanks for the help, now to learn how to use memory map lol
One more question while im on the subject. I read on here the headsets are 2.5mm whats the odds of these type running on the cf-p2?

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Thanks again for the help

 

normally ur computer will never forget, from whom u got something ;-)

(u can also try zeta-uploader.com, it's faster!)

 

beeks:
I've rewired many headsets from one phone to another. I'm sure looking at the schematic will tell you what you need to know (me too, but I'm running late and don't have time to look right now)

If it isn't wired for the p2, you will need to crack the headset open and desolder/resolder the wires to the correct pins.

If it doesn't have the right rings (3 vs 4) on the plug, then you'll need a donor handsfree with the right ring count.

TIP: the wire that is typically used for headsets will not solder easily. It's enamel coated. Prep your wire(s) for tinning by burning the end of the wire with a flame, and wipe clean, OR use some fine sandpaper (600 grit) to sand the end clean. Tin, and then solder it up.

4 pin headsets usually use the 4th pin as an action button.
4 pin headsets can also be L+R with mic to ground for action.
3 pin headsets can use mic to ground for an action button.
Some headsets are just headsets....

FWIW

 

I just looked it up (curiousity...)
(page 8 of the user manual) CF-VHSP11W is the part number for the adapter. there is an A part and B part. Apparently, one does handsfree, and he other stereo. It looks as thought they are saying you have to use it becuase of the way the plug/socket is on the P2. This tells me there is probably 4 pins inside (mic, gnd, L, & R, with action as mic to gnd), although the pic of the adapter hides the top end of it (obfuscating the actual pin count)

I don't have time to look, but the headset pinout should be on pg 12 of the schematic.

 

Ahhh... I was searching my EMAIL archive, not my PM inbox. I'll edit the post to credit you

Edit: done

 

UPDATE:
The headset is a 2.5mm, 4 pin headset.
Any 2.5mm 4pin headset will plug in there (just not water resistant without the "boot")
This is the pinout of the sierra headset I tried (spk, mic, and button all worked) for a handsfree. DUnno about stereo yet.

 

Nice One, Dont suppose you have the model number of headset you used, im looking for compatible headsets with boom mic, Im not to good at soldering and stuff so want a safe bet.

Chees

 

Of course it's at your own risk:
But go to the link in my last post, and find a headset for any of those nokia models. They should work.

On a similar note I'm butchering a bt cardio s609 (whatever, it's a bt handsfree). The wire(s) are frayed, and the battery is dead. I"m gonna take an old computer boom mic headset and some lipo cell battery, and frankenstien an obnoxiously large trucker style handsfree. Why? Becuase I can. And I want to see how much farther i can go, if I throw on a DIY antenna....
OOH, maybe I can get some 17dbi 15" long wifi antenna and use that!:laugh:

 

I really like the sound of that. No, seriously, I do.

Also have you worked out where the metal bits on the side of the headset jack go? Is it for a Right Channel + by any chance?

 

Got 2x of the Nokia model boom mike headsets off ebay for 99p so will give them a whirl and keep you posted.

Cheers

 

I'm not sure what you're asking, but I haven't played with it too much because i've been working so much (gotta strike while the iron is hot!).

Also, anyone looking for stuff, see these links

Stereo headset adapter (use headphones as handsfree)

4gb SD (not sdhc) for $17

I found them looking for pins to populate my P2 plug (for sync/data/etc)


***EDIT***
Also, on that gd87 dock possibility:
gd87=49mmx23.1mm
cfp2=58mmx20mm

So, no, it won't work

 

Nokia headsets arrived this morning and confirmed they are working a treat, thanks for the spot.

Cheers

 

Theres a metal pin on the outside of the socket, where the waterproofing rubber thingy would sit on an official headset, perhaps it is a RIGHT audio + channel, for stereo audio?

 

That's a good possibility.... I've been workin soo much that I haven't had time to play with it.

Actually, I just fired it up with my active sim this morning (wife took my charger for my hd2 ,and it was dead). The volume on it sucks! I didn't try the speaker phone. One more thing to add to the todo list.

ON a side note, I have been trying to source some of those sychips to add wlan to the phone. Again, pressed for time with work, so I haven't checked the schema, but does anyone know if other components are missing from the board for that chip? There are an aweful lot of BS websites out there (the internet machine is wonderful, once you sift out all the horse sheit!)

 

Speaker phone? It has a speaker mode?? *confuzzled*
I notice that the volume sucked on my CF-P2 but I thought it was just my CF-P2.
I think the CF-P2s were meant for data only, considering that British Gas used to run a remote database thingy, or at least it looked like that the last time I saw a CF-P2 in use.

 

From the
Panasonic® OPERATING INSTRUCTIONS
Handheld Computer
Model No. CF-P2 Series
manual comes:

Speaker Phone

If {OFF Hook (Talk) Button} is pressed down for more than 2 seconds during a phone call, it becomes a speaker phone.
To return to previous setting, press {OFF Hook (Talk) Button} more than 2 seconds again. *¹

• When the speakerphone is on, (Handset Display Image) will appear on the navigation bar and the message [Speaker phone is on] will appear.

• When a speakerphone is off, (Handset Display Image) will disappear from the navigation bar and the message [Speakerphone is off] will appear.

*¹ When connected to such an external audio device as a Bluetooth headset, car kit, etc., the speakerphone will not work.

 

ok, WLAN stuff:

IC40 is the wlan6060ebc chip
IC20 is a TI - 16-BIT BUS TRANSCEIVER WITH 3-STATE OUTPUTS
IC21 is a C 16BIT BUS TXRX 3-ST 56-BGA
q15 is a p channel mosfet TPC610

Anyone know if ic20/21 or q15 is already on the board (if you have a non wifi P2)?
They are all listed on the wifi page of the schema, not sure if that was there only purpose(s)...